@Junior Castro dude 😂 HDR shouldn't look washed out, if it looks washed out, it means that the color accuracy of the monitor is not hitting the target. HDR is rich in contrast as it needs to be able to display deep blacks and bright white without loosing detail, only this fact means that the image can't look washed out. Now colours are of a bigger gamut as well.
@@neikory exactly 💯 👏 you are completely correct. But let me explain 🤔 what you're missing. HDR focuses on giving you the most realistic experience in gaming and movies. In real life what does colors need to look bright and colorful? LIGHT. So if you're playing COD, Fortnite or whatever game and you're in a room where there's no light just a bit, colors will look dark or dim but you can still enjoy high definition details 😉 look go into your bedroom turn off the light but open a little bit of you window 🪟 how colors will look without enough light? This is what this technology does. Same thing with dolby atmos, it moves the sound where the object is moving. I've had a Samsung QLED TV 4K at 60hz refresh rate that supports HDR10 for almost 4 years now and I never have enjoyed this technology because I've been playing on my PS4 for the past decade 😅 but when I got my Xbox Series X 👏 my man I was amazed 😳 at the huge difference 😢 and I still have to upgrade my TV because the Xbox series X supports 120hz in 4k with (Dolby Vision) which is better than HDR10 & HDR10+. Right now only Sony and LG has these TVs that support (Dolby Vision) and the Xbox is the only console that supports Dolby Vision. 😀
It's most likely that HDR is enbaled in-game and not on the monitor. HDR video viewed in SDR makes the color look oversaturated at best and blasted out at worst.
Bottom clip has the color saturation turned all the way up. Colors probably set on vivid. Horribly innacurate. Her skin as orange as her hair which as orange as the leaves which is as orange as the sun. HDR should always be brighter than SDR. Theres just so much misinformation i cant stop commenting how much is wrong with this video 😅
ikr the sun is blinding me on the bottom clip but the sun in top clip isnt blinding me like real life and the colours in the bottom one are horrible. im confused as to why alienware top dog monitor is only HDR400 but i guess its for more natural look for movies and desktop and gaming rather than vibrant coloured which is good for me because i want realistic as fuck when gaming. i aint playing no games made with paint like fortnite lol
If the Alienware monitor is OLED, then the reason is that most manufacturers set HDR on low brightness in order to prevent the "burn-in" effect on the screen
I have the game... And i tought no hdr was top one, why ? Cuz i have no fking hdr and thats what mine looks like XD. This guy is a fking clown for spreading such fake info
This is absolutely and grossly misrepresenting the difference between SDR and HDR. The image should look mostly identical, just with additional detail in highlights and shadows and brighter highlights, as well as finer colors (as in smoother gradients, not more - or less - saturation). Something's very wrong here, because here the supposed SDR image is blown and oversaturated, while the supposed HDR image is very dull.
Yeah I don't have HDR on and it looks way more like the top one. The bottom isn't even close to be calibrated correctly. I hate these comparisons. When my non hdr content is calibrated correctly, it looks ugly with HDR on(probably not true hdr but not sure how common real hdr equipment is)
Like I mentioned, when both your SDR and HDR are set up properly, there really shouldn't be much of a difference noticeable between the two except for things that are pretty hard to capture in an SDR video or screenshot in the first place (brighter and less blown highlights, improved shadow detail).
I can almost guarantee this person is forcing his tv to use DCI or BT 2020 colorspace for the sdr content when it should be rec.709/BT709. Quantum tv back in the day was telling people to use DCI for sdr content showing how "good" it made spiderman look. Then he made another video trying to justify his claim using Horizon Zero Dawn saying that the sdr is better which ironically is the same game used in this video. Quantum TV also made a whole bunch of ridiculous claims saying that hdr isn't real. He's changed since then growing into a tech reviewer, but I don't get why he still has those crazy videos up?
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 OK, that Quantum guy is either a troll or a complete idiot, but either way, his videos about HDR are horrible garbage (even current ones). Jesus Christ...
This is such a poor representation as to what HDR actually is and looks like. Your display is clearly not made for HDR if the colors and lighting become that muted. Or your settings are absolutely askewed. HDR is darker darks, Brighter brights, And enhanced color space. Image shouldnt change very much other than contrast and maybe brighter colors. Your display should get to AT LEAST 600 nits if you actually want to utilize HDR. 1000 nits is better. Its way better on TVs as TVs are usually higher brightness than almost all moniters.
No. This is actually what Horizon Zero Dawn actually looks like with HDR ON. Maybe its the game but overall with my PS5 connected to my monitor with HDR on it looks gray awful
@victoralonso272 only super high end moniters can do HDR properly. Not only that most moniters don't have any backlight dimming zones. Unless you have a 3000 dollar moniter you're getting fake HDR that's maybe 300 or 400 nit brightness. Which really is awful in terms of hdr. HDR and backlight zones are much better in high end TVs and Oled screens
@Vancha March th-cam.com/video/cD8pRqx5y1E/w-d-xo.html Here's a new one. You can still see the difference on an SDR screen. But you still aren't getting the full HDR effect unless you play it on a HDR capable display from the source.
@Flocke Locke someone in a different thread pointed out that it's probably over saturated due to an error while recording on PC. But still, that makes this comparison worse than useless. In reality, HDR has more color as well as more detail and contrast range.
You can't use the image for reference since it's not actually in HDR even when using an HDR monitor. It won't undersaturated images like in this example. In fact it has more colors.
@@scythelord Surprised no one has offered this answer. When you record with software, like OBS, the captured "HDR image" will look worse, as in this example.
It also highly depends on how well HDR was implemented by the creators, how good the display you're using is and how you changed the parameters of the TV image quality (some TVs are correct out of the box, others need you to play around the settings).
This is dumb. HDR is a pretty strange subject considering many monitors claim to have "HDR", but can only display an hdr signal and cant actually produce HDR content. For HDR to be effective you would need a display with many local dimming zones or an OLED panel so it can vary brightness to a greater degree. Believe me, once you get a display (tv or monitor) that can do true HDR it will blow you away.
@@Jar4495 Basically, dark areas can get darker while preserving details and higher peak brightness as well. Colors are gonna pop more. If you have a standard gaming monitor, which most likely isn't OLED, and take a smartphone with OLED and watch the same HDR content side by side, you'll notice the difference straight away. Most smartphones these days have OLED screens.
@@Jar4495 HDR gives better colors with a wider range. And it displays contrast, brightness, and details much better. Basically the image pops more in detail, color, highlights, etc and looks more lifelike. The difference can be quite noticeable. This clip is supremely messed up. He has a bad recording or something. SDR should not look so oversaturated. It's so bad I'm not sure why the video was even put up. And to see the full effect of HDR the content actually has to be mastered and displayed in HDR on an HDR display. This video isn't. Though you can still see some HDR improvement in these comparisons even if you don't get the full effect. If the comparison wasn't totally messed up anyway. If you want better comparisons look up the GamingTech channel.
It depends on the display. On my 400 nits LCD with poor tone mapping, the HDR image looks washed out and too dull, whereas on my 1500 nits S21Ultra, the same HDR content looks stunning (way better than the SDR in every way).
You need to have a monitor with 1000 nit peak brightness to properly utilize HDR. 600 nit at minimum will get some benefit but not fully. You also need 10-bit or 8-bit + dithering color depth. Many monitors today advertise HDR simply for marketing purposes and they can process HDR, however they are most often not equipped enough to actually display it. If the monitor isn’t above at least 600 nits, it is incapable displaying HDR. I own a 1000 nit monitor 8-bit + dithering and HDR is way bright and more saturated than the SDR. It is really an impressive thing once you properly see it.
@@Ham24brand not really. My tv is 800nits and it looks incredible. Even my old iPhone X was 800 nits and hdr demos on TH-cam looked incredible back then.
@@Vitorfernandes83 800 nits definitely works. It just needs to be above 600nits to get anything that looks good. They make HDR monitors that only go to 400 nits, those are a scam and the HDR looks terrible on those because the monitor simply isn’t bright enough to do what it needs to do.
This is not real HDR. I speak as an HDR user. From above, SDR, or uncalibrated HDR. The SDR is illuminated from below. If you sit with real HDR, you'll never want to go back to SDR again. It's like going back from a summer day to a cloudy, gray day, devoid of colors.
It really depends on the quality of your display. If you have an OLED TV or monitor, always turn on HDR. from my experience, most mid range LCD/ LED TVs don't have the optimal dynamic color range to support HDR gaming in 4K hence the washed out colors, etc. in that sense SDR will always look better. But the difference is really obvious once you upgrade your display, trust me
@@GameslordXY the luminance depends a lot on the nits that the panel being used can support, if a screen with infinite contrast is used, the luminance can be adapted to the view, but it always depends a lot on the type of screen, for example I have a panel screen Samsung 4k LCD, but it only supports 300 nits and I need to do magic to get the hdr to look good, otherwise the highlights look very dull, the dark areas look very good, but I would like a panel that has a good balance and not having to resort to qled or oled, most playstation games look great on my screen, xbox games look awful like red dead redemption 2
@@sagenarutoranmagremoryWell QLEDs droped in price dramaticaly. And don't suffer from burn-in Like OLEDs. I plan to get one in a 18-24 months at most. Likely not the cheapest model. By then I should be able to save up 700€-800€. Purchase something really, really good and be happy for next 10 years or so. Perhaps something that was upper midrange - high end in late 2022/early 2023. That being said,I have seen 500€ LED TVs that had really nice picture(to me at least). I am however open to LED as well. OLED? Not so much,but you never know. If there was minimum 5 years warranty against Burn-In,I could be convinced.
@@GameslordXY The problem with burnouts is that they do not take care of the devices, we should not leave a fixed image on any screen for too long, it is like people who leave video game consoles in "suspend" mode, shortening the life expectancy of the device, I am saving for an Oled, since I imagine it is like a high-end cell phone, they have a longer life with the manufacturer
@@sagenarutoranmagremory leaving a single imagine on a screen for 10 hours a day is not going to cause burn in instantly, there’s no reason to be scared of it and freak out. It’s how long you use it over long periods of time. For example MMO games or RTS games with HUDs/mini maps on screen. Playing those games for 1K+ hours is what causes burn in. So just play different games and watch different content and you’ll be fine.
HDR means you get details in shadows and bright spots, at the same time, versus having to trade brightness/contrast for one or the other. It’s photography/videography term, where sometimes we have to composite pictures with different exposure times so we get details in bright and dark areas together. If you use hdr, the computer graphics processor will have to calculate and rebalance brightness in both bright and dark areas accurately in a smart way to bring out all those details together, this automation requires quite a bit of processing power if you need to do lots of images in a short time.
For all your HDR10 mostly doesn't look that good... Why? Cause you need an for example lg c1 tv or better lg g3 oled tv cause this one is actually 1400-1500nits and 1000nits is requiered to get an real HDR10 Picture
You can actually see hdr on hdr screens thats why we have them, the kontrast is to deep for usual Displays and the output is not the same so thats why we have HDR to show the high kontrast image with les Detail los.
So wrong. When using HDR (High Dynamic Range) on your TV, the colors should appear brighter and more vibrant. To achieve the best HDR experience, it is important to enable specific features on your TV or monitor, such as HGIG (HDR Gaming Interest Group) mode. These features help optimize the HDR performance and ensure that you are getting the desired visual enhancements.
extremely biased to use a pre-rendered non HDR cutscene to make such comparison. you should at least use an in-game moment, which has proper HDR implementation, to make a comparison. wouldn't make any sense to adopt a technology that make things look worse.
@@ivanivan-io2gq Have you ever seen HDR on a proper HDR display? I am not claiming you would change your mind, just that you can't truly judge it otherwise.
Honestly HDR has been the biggest graphical game changer as of late. It does way more for how a game looks than ray tracing. In games with HDR if you use SDR the game look really flat and boring in comparison. It was genuinely a wow moment when I got my OLED panel and played some HDR games on it, almost like the jump from 2D to 3D games. The colours were so punchy and stuff like lava and fire actually look how fire and lava should look, the contrast is insane. It’s a game changer for sure if you have a good monitor for it and the game has good HDR (most games do thankfully).
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This video is showing an HDR clip on an SDR video.
Some things it works well, like at the start where there is too much red/orange. But when she’s running through the trees and bushes, it certainly benefits to have more red/orange gleaming through those little spots the sun shines through the trees. It allows us to see more of what’s going on and doesn’t look so dull.
I have been interested in HDR for many years now, even before it became a common thing in video games. It still amazes me how many people still don't understand what it actually does. High Dynamic Range does what it's name suggests. In real life colours and light will change at different distances, but cameras cannot usually capture those changes. In order to fix this you can layer images with different lighting to simulate HDR. You can also do the same with virtual environments, like in video games. Horizon Forbidden West is the worst example however of HDR because it's implemented very poorly. Yes, this video is showing the actual difference when HDR is on and off. The reason there's a big difference in saturation has nothing to do with HDR itself, but with the HDR tonemap which is usually used to balance HDR. The dev that implemented HDR for this game clearly was doing their own thing separately from the rest of the team.
I would say it's personal preference, For me: no I realy hate HDR in video games and movies alot. I Love saturated and colorful displays, so I find no point trying to get rid of colors to get ( More realistic) Older SNES games were more colorful than nowadays recent HDR games. Again it's only my opinion, if you like HDR, well I respect you and it is your choice, I like HDR too but only in photos or in taking photos.
Sorry but this is BS - my first ever cheap "HDR" tv looked like top, get a decent OLED and HDR on blows off out of the water. Also obviously YT doesn't support HDR here but I'm watching this on a 240Hz
Having had a Steam Deck for six months or so, I'd say it depends on the game. HDR does improve the look of some games, but it can ruin it with others where you get better contrast by simply turning the brightness down. A good example of this is Elden Ring, where you get very deep blacks on an OLED display if you turn the brightness down, but HDR doesn't even get close to that level of contrast. On the other hand, Deep Rock Galactic (which has had its HDR feature tagged as experimental for ages now) looks like a very different game with HDR on at the cost of some UI elements being illegible due to how dark the blacks are.
Honestly HDR is not worth it. Even when trying to watch movies, it’s just way too dark. Sure you get SLIGHTLY more detail in the shadows, but that’s not enough of a justification for me
if its too dark, then your display isn't capable of getting bright enough to properly support HDR. aim for something with at least 1000 nits of brightness
No, get something with a sick FALD system or OLED. A Display can have 1500 nits but If it has bad contrast and trash edge lit dimming with 16 zones then it's trash HDR and just lasers your eyes.
@@flockelocke2297 I've come back to this and realize what the problem is. HDR10 is just garbage. HDR10+ is decent, but Dolby Vision is where it's really at
@@NoCluYT dark? What are you talking about. I have over 600 movies. A third is 4k Blu-ray’s and I can’t remember one single movie looking too dark on my oled tv.
@@Vitorfernandes83this was me when I was using an LCD display. Yeah it's only worth it on OLED. Should've made that more clear. In LCD it just makes everything look bland, but on OLED it pops
I’ve been on a LG C2 playing games for a few months and decided to try HDR. It was broken on PC washes out whiteness to the image. Updated my windows to windows 11 and it looks amazing I’m never going back to SDR. I can’t believe I was missing out on this the whole time.
Good rule of thumb; if you don't have an hdr monitor, dont enable hdr. Side note, if you DO have an hdr monitor, do NOT enable windows hdr or in-game hdr. Only turn it on from the monitor settings.
You need to tune some of those colors down in the bottom. Your saturation and possibly a few other settings like even your brightness look as if they're jacked up to high.
Ah yes. HDR. I and many of the wannabe experts in the comments watching this on their phone can tell which is HDR even when the video itself is not HDR enabled.
Even in a subpar HDR monitor I could even tell the difference from playing games with HDR. I just like the more contrast shadow details in HDR and the specular highlights. It really is an experience.
Depending on the TV's HDMI version and the resolution used, HDR uses YUV color standard, which is inferior to RGB, so the image becomes less vivid, but it certainly improves the dark and white areas of the game.
@@chrxs61632 u need an hdr400 screen man. i got a basic hdr monitor and it looks this bad but with an hdr 800 or 1k screen it looks like the bottom with hdr on.
He’s not bullshitting HDR on Xbox was so bugs for so long it was ruining my image quality as soon as I turned it off I could finally see colors again ❤ It was like seeing colors for the first time
In no clip you can see hdr, that is like asking what clip is using color, when everyone uses black and white monitors. All you can see is a different saturation and not what hdr is all about.
Ya. This video is whack. Either Zero Dawn is just weird, or there are more settings changed between the two. This video shows nothing but over saturated colors in the SDR example.
@Halit Erdogan the channel Gaming Tech focuses on HDR games. If you're interested in settings and testing check him out. HDR content on TH-cam never looks as good. You need a good HDR display with proper settings to get the most out of it. And TH-cam compresses video. So HDR will always look better in person from the source. You may see a bit of difference in HDR youtube videos, but it won't look as good as in person. To see what you can with TH-cam, you need a real HDR video. Which this video is not. And watch it on an HDR capable display. Which if you are on a phone probably doesn't have HDR. And you need to find a good example, which this isn't. He totally changed the settings a lot for some reason. This video shows a side by side comparison in Avengers Endgame. It still won't look as good since it's not an HDR video, but you can still see some difference. More contrast, brighter highlights, more detail and color. Same in games. th-cam.com/video/suWVZ8xlMyo/w-d-xo.html
Its because older games where build without HDR in mind and they had a more artistic/colorful style to stand out. HDR just strips that vision and makes them dull, however most newer games do look great with HDR. You can really see how some games get affected if you play backcompact games on the series X and mess with the auto HDR. personally higer frame rates and a strong art direction are way better than most HDR, Raytracing and Realistic graphics.
Ever since I switched to a 1440p 144HZ IPS HDR monitor from LG I can never go back to SDR. The content and games look so natural and real that it makes a night and day difference.
The top one is not HDR, it’s clearly fake. I have a 4K 55” HDR10+ Dolby vision tv, and all HDR films and games look like the bottom one, with 4K and HDR enabled. It looks like the top one when it’s turned off.
Finally a person that only makes us wait 5 seconds for the answer instead of other TH-camrs saying to us we will reveal at the end of the video but then they never do
Just because it's HDR, doesn't mean it's a good HDR. HDR needs a lot of work by professionals but if it's done right, it can be amazing That said, the HDR has better dynamic range and colors look more realistic too
And the amount of games that have been professionally calibrated with hdr, scene by scene are very few, therefor hdr is a scam if sdr is better 98% of the time
HDR off would look good for games like last of us, Spider-Man, minecraft maybe god of war, but then hdr on would look good for like horror types of games or maybe stealth games, both look great tho
So I not only one with this problem, I found HDR setting, turning it on, kinda hurt my eye a little cause it waaaay to bright, turning it off, Without HDR look better, If you on Sony Bravia, would not recommend fully turn on HDR, not worth it, just turn on high resolution on your PS4/PS5 and put most of tv setting Auto and turn your brightness and sharpness max and bam it look getting better already so yeah just letting yall know
@POSTBOY That literally one of them I try when HDR on, It still not good as without HDR, that why I suggest yall to use Without HDR cause it better that way,
Never turn sharpness on, let alone put it to the max, especially not in gaming. It leaves artifacts and weird shadows around moving objects, you should turn most settings off to have the best experience as is intended by the creator
@@PlaystationGamerZX it sounds like your tv doesn’t have hgig. It’s using dynamic range. I had the same issue on my old Sony tv. Almost damaged my eyes. Wait did you just say SDR torn your brightness to max? What? On Sony TVs never go above 50 brightness. I was using 25 for SDR. 100 for hdr. What did you say? Sharpness to max? Boy até are so confused. Do you even know what you’re saying?
To be honest if you don't do your settings in game with HDR on it's going to look trashy I learned this the hard way and I found out that adjusting the way you want your picture to look with HDR on looks a lot better than just going straight in with HDR on because if you go straight in you going to get that ugly trashy look and you going to want to turn it off and if you ask me it looks a lot better off but when you're adjust it it looks a whole lot 10 times better
You can't see the difference if you're not watching on a HDR display, but it's not just that there are more colour bits per pixel, with a good display there's an increase in actual brightness and darkness. The difference between HDR and regular RGB massive and definitely worth it.
Hdr on my monitor makes a night/day difference on colors in most games makes dark areas darker and bright areas brighter. Works better if you have a higher peak brightness monitor aswell for those whites.
@@VaydaladaVodalada yeah, it is. If hdr support is implemented, and you have an HDR compatible monitor, you will be able to make use of it. How is that not how it works?
@@Vancha112 that’s not how HDR works you nimrod. HDR requires a certain color depth from the screen along with a peak brightness in highlights. You’re falling for fake HDR which is just a label on a box.
@@VaydaladaVodalada you don't know who you're talking to, but that's fine. I know how hdr works. If anything regarding my previous comment is unclear just let me know.
Got the AOC 27in mini led 180hz monitor, comes with HDR up to 1100nits for $270 definitely recommend to anyone looking for a budget friendly true hdr experience
You really don’t if you were actually looking at it in HDR this is a video of an hdr game but it’s in SDR. It’s like taking a mic from the 1950s and playing a high quality song on it from today. Also even if your display is hdr the vidio is not so the format is heavily limiting the brightness and color range.
most people are watching this on a non-hdr screen, so are really only seeing how bad hdr looks on a regular screen (or even a low quality hdr screen, low quality hdr tends to look worse than sdr)
Ngl most people are probably on an oled phone rn I think the main issue is the guy recording put a saturation filter on the bottom and the hdr clip on top looks like its coming from an hdr 400 monitor plus yt shorts dont support hdr I dont think
Keep in mind that hdr makes the image different from what the creators intended it to look like and unless you have a very high end tv or monitor hdr will make your content look washed out with brightened shadows and dull colors. Also, as someone who has played HZD multiple times I can tell this SDR video has been saturated
I have a sony tv and playing spiderman 2 on 4k hdr after playing the previous spiderman in normal 4k and it looks bit dark for me and like u said i think it is washed out a little idk what to do i guess im just turning hdr off
This clip isn't HDR. And even if it was you'd still need an HDR screen to display it and there's various other factors. It's not a good representation at all.
Maaaaannnnnnn i thought my eyes way fukd up for years. Im soooo glad someone covered this. I new hdr was a piece of shit. This video needs to go viral because im SICK of all these videos an companies an sponsors saying hdr this an hdr that. Hdr is a color washing piece of shit LITERALLY. 😂
Hdr 400 and hdr 600 on budget monitors dont have true hdr if u have a flagship phone w an oled panel turn up the brightness to max and watch hdr content to see for urself
Hdr makes miracles. I had an xbox one x that played many games in 4k or a little less with hdr and i was fantastic. But the big difference eas on my ps4 slim. Most game used to play in 1080p and games withou hdr was a little bad in my lg c1 and games with hdr looked great. Of course id like to have a ps4 pro and ply it in 4k, but hdr made such a difference that i didnt miss it so much.
If anyone is reading this I love using HDR after I realized what the problem was. DO NOT turn on HDR in your game, just leave it on in your TV or windows and monitor setting. You're welcome, yes it's the games that put the bare minimum on HDR that's why it looks so bad and they release it like that they don't care, just let your device add that nice color depth and you're good to go, keep in my mind that because it's relatively new even your device might not adjust the brightness so you might have to turn it up manually although I found that turning up contrast fixed the brightness
Without showing the reference it’s difficult to compare which one is closer to director’s intentions. But assuming HDR has proper tone mapping, it should be closer. In contrast, the SDR colors below are really oversaturated and lots of clipping in the highlights, losing a lot of details. There are picture modes that add additional post processing to “enhance” the SDR experience by up converting HDR. But they aren’t directors intent thus may have artifacts coz they lack the metadata to ensure each scene is properly tone mapped to avoid over saturation and clippings.
I’ve found that HDR works well on certain games but terrible on others. For instance it makes doom eternal look like a cartoon for some reason… but on tarkov it makes it look way more detailed and realistic. Maybe I have no idea what I’m doing… I probably have no idea what I’m doing… but it’s something I’ve noticed…
Man I thought my tv had bad hdr or something. It makes everything look less colorful and dim lol
Exactly 😅 it doesn't look that bright but is more realistic 👍
because is a shitty HDR. You need a decent HDR so it maintains color accuracy.
@@neikory wrong, it looks like you don't understand how HDR works. It's all about color calibration to make games look more realistic 👌
@Junior Castro dude 😂 HDR shouldn't look washed out, if it looks washed out, it means that the color accuracy of the monitor is not hitting the target. HDR is rich in contrast as it needs to be able to display deep blacks and bright white without loosing detail, only this fact means that the image can't look washed out. Now colours are of a bigger gamut as well.
@@neikory exactly 💯 👏 you are completely correct. But let me explain 🤔 what you're missing. HDR focuses on giving you the most realistic experience in gaming and movies. In real life what does colors need to look bright and colorful? LIGHT. So if you're playing COD, Fortnite or whatever game and you're in a room where there's no light just a bit, colors will look dark or dim but you can still enjoy high definition details 😉 look go into your bedroom turn off the light but open a little bit of you window 🪟 how colors will look without enough light? This is what this technology does. Same thing with dolby atmos, it moves the sound where the object is moving. I've had a Samsung QLED TV 4K at 60hz refresh rate that supports HDR10 for almost 4 years now and I never have enjoyed this technology because I've been playing on my PS4 for the past decade 😅 but when I got my Xbox Series X 👏 my man I was amazed 😳 at the huge difference 😢 and I still have to upgrade my TV because the Xbox series X supports 120hz in 4k with (Dolby Vision) which is better than HDR10 & HDR10+. Right now only Sony and LG has these TVs that support (Dolby Vision) and the Xbox is the only console that supports Dolby Vision. 😀
I've NEVER seen HDR OFF looking like that, something is odd there.
I have just got a really great monitor and the hdr version looked terrible.
It's most likely that HDR is enbaled in-game and not on the monitor. HDR video viewed in SDR makes the color look oversaturated at best and blasted out at worst.
Because it never looks like that.
nope
he oversaturated the image
Bottom clip has the color saturation turned all the way up. Colors probably set on vivid. Horribly innacurate. Her skin as orange as her hair which as orange as the leaves which is as orange as the sun. HDR should always be brighter than SDR. Theres just so much misinformation i cant stop commenting how much is wrong with this video 😅
ikr the sun is blinding me on the bottom clip but the sun in top clip isnt blinding me like real life and the colours in the bottom one are horrible. im confused as to why alienware top dog monitor is only HDR400 but i guess its for more natural look for movies and desktop and gaming rather than vibrant coloured which is good for me because i want realistic as fuck when gaming. i aint playing no games made with paint like fortnite lol
Yeah this is a really stupid video
It's probably meant to confuse you to get views
If the Alienware monitor is OLED, then the reason is that most manufacturers set HDR on low brightness in order to prevent the "burn-in" effect on the screen
I have the game... And i tought no hdr was top one, why ? Cuz i have no fking hdr and thats what mine looks like XD.
This guy is a fking clown for spreading such fake info
This is absolutely and grossly misrepresenting the difference between SDR and HDR. The image should look mostly identical, just with additional detail in highlights and shadows and brighter highlights, as well as finer colors (as in smoother gradients, not more - or less - saturation). Something's very wrong here, because here the supposed SDR image is blown and oversaturated, while the supposed HDR image is very dull.
Yeah I don't have HDR on and it looks way more like the top one. The bottom isn't even close to be calibrated correctly. I hate these comparisons. When my non hdr content is calibrated correctly, it looks ugly with HDR on(probably not true hdr but not sure how common real hdr equipment is)
Like I mentioned, when both your SDR and HDR are set up properly, there really shouldn't be much of a difference noticeable between the two except for things that are pretty hard to capture in an SDR video or screenshot in the first place (brighter and less blown highlights, improved shadow detail).
I can almost guarantee this person is forcing his tv to use DCI or BT 2020 colorspace for the sdr content when it should be rec.709/BT709. Quantum tv back in the day was telling people to use DCI for sdr content showing how "good" it made spiderman look. Then he made another video trying to justify his claim using Horizon Zero Dawn saying that the sdr is better which ironically is the same game used in this video.
Quantum TV also made a whole bunch of ridiculous claims saying that hdr isn't real. He's changed since then growing into a tech reviewer, but I don't get why he still has those crazy videos up?
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 (Trolling and/or baiting for engagement would be my guess.)
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 OK, that Quantum guy is either a troll or a complete idiot, but either way, his videos about HDR are horrible garbage (even current ones). Jesus Christ...
This is such a poor representation as to what HDR actually is and looks like. Your display is clearly not made for HDR if the colors and lighting become that muted. Or your settings are absolutely askewed. HDR is darker darks, Brighter brights, And enhanced color space. Image shouldnt change very much other than contrast and maybe brighter colors. Your display should get to AT LEAST 600 nits if you actually want to utilize HDR. 1000 nits is better. Its way better on TVs as TVs are usually higher brightness than almost all moniters.
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No. This is actually what Horizon Zero Dawn actually looks like with HDR ON. Maybe its the game but overall with my PS5 connected to my monitor with HDR on it looks gray awful
Nope. HDR on Horizon really does look like that.
@victoralonso272 only super high end moniters can do HDR properly. Not only that most moniters don't have any backlight dimming zones. Unless you have a 3000 dollar moniter you're getting fake HDR that's maybe 300 or 400 nit brightness. Which really is awful in terms of hdr. HDR and backlight zones are much better in high end TVs and Oled screens
@@victoralonso272 yea because u dont have a real hdr monitor or tv. this isnt how horizon looks like. just on bad monitors
We are watching all of this in SDR but that being said, the “HDR off” in this case looks way over saturated for some reason which looks terrible.
@@sawdust8691 broken link
@Vancha March th-cam.com/video/cD8pRqx5y1E/w-d-xo.html
Here's a new one. You can still see the difference on an SDR screen. But you still aren't getting the full HDR effect unless you play it on a HDR capable display from the source.
@@Vancha112 RIP
On my Monitor Horizon Zero Dawn wasn't like this without HDR. Lmao this is BS. There is no way that Horizon is this stupidly oversaturated in SDR.
@Flocke Locke someone in a different thread pointed out that it's probably over saturated due to an error while recording on PC.
But still, that makes this comparison worse than useless. In reality, HDR has more color as well as more detail and contrast range.
You can't use the image for reference since it's not actually in HDR even when using an HDR monitor. It won't undersaturated images like in this example. In fact it has more colors.
HDR content converted to SDR naturally darkens the image. in actual HDR, it'd be at least as saturated as the bottom if not moreso.
@@scythelord Surprised no one has offered this answer. When you record with software, like OBS, the captured "HDR image" will look worse, as in this example.
It also highly depends on how well HDR was implemented by the creators, how good the display you're using is and how you changed the parameters of the TV image quality (some TVs are correct out of the box, others need you to play around the settings).
This is dumb. HDR is a pretty strange subject considering many monitors claim to have "HDR", but can only display an hdr signal and cant actually produce HDR content. For HDR to be effective you would need a display with many local dimming zones or an OLED panel so it can vary brightness to a greater degree. Believe me, once you get a display (tv or monitor) that can do true HDR it will blow you away.
Watching this on a 4K OLED tv screen, capable of HDR, I can confirm non of this is HDR.
Same! C1 and G3 and both are the same as you said.
What is hdr then ?
@@Jar4495 Basically, dark areas can get darker while preserving details and higher peak brightness as well. Colors are gonna pop more. If you have a standard gaming monitor, which most likely isn't OLED, and take a smartphone with OLED and watch the same HDR content side by side, you'll notice the difference straight away. Most smartphones these days have OLED screens.
@@Jar4495 HDR gives better colors with a wider range. And it displays contrast, brightness, and details much better.
Basically the image pops more in detail, color, highlights, etc and looks more lifelike. The difference can be quite noticeable.
This clip is supremely messed up. He has a bad recording or something. SDR should not look so oversaturated. It's so bad I'm not sure why the video was even put up.
And to see the full effect of HDR the content actually has to be mastered and displayed in HDR on an HDR display. This video isn't.
Though you can still see some HDR improvement in these comparisons even if you don't get the full effect. If the comparison wasn't totally messed up anyway.
If you want better comparisons look up the GamingTech channel.
@@SpudhutCXrep nah. he used a HDR 400 monitor and thought it's "HDR".
Hdr doesnt just balance out the lighting it has a much wider range of colors
The editor of this video surely had fun lmao
HDR has always looked gray to me.
It depends on the display. On my 400 nits LCD with poor tone mapping, the HDR image looks washed out and too dull, whereas on my 1500 nits S21Ultra, the same HDR content looks stunning (way better than the SDR in every way).
thats why i dont use it lol
@@PabloB888 you need to calibrate it in windows. My HDR 400 look good, and not washed out.
Cuz ur tv/monitor isnt capable of true HDR.
Then you probably don't have a good display for HDR and/or don't have it properly set up.
You need to have a monitor with 1000 nit peak brightness to properly utilize HDR. 600 nit at minimum will get some benefit but not fully. You also need 10-bit or 8-bit + dithering color depth. Many monitors today advertise HDR simply for marketing purposes and they can process HDR, however they are most often not equipped enough to actually display it. If the monitor isn’t above at least 600 nits, it is incapable displaying HDR. I own a 1000 nit monitor 8-bit + dithering and HDR is way bright and more saturated than the SDR. It is really an impressive thing once you properly see it.
600 nits and 3,000 contrast ratio minimum for LEDs. For OLEDs 450 nits minimum since oled has i finite contrast so it compensates
Well tbh my „HDR 400“ monitor still looks way better with HDR enabled and set to my preferences. Can‘t go back to SDR after that.
@@Ham24brand not really. My tv is 800nits and it looks incredible. Even my old iPhone X was 800 nits and hdr demos on TH-cam looked incredible back then.
@@Vitorfernandes83 800 nits definitely works. It just needs to be above 600nits to get anything that looks good. They make HDR monitors that only go to 400 nits, those are a scam and the HDR looks terrible on those because the monitor simply isn’t bright enough to do what it needs to do.
@@Vitorfernandes83 what? I am agreeing with you.
This is not real HDR. I speak as an HDR user. From above, SDR, or uncalibrated HDR. The SDR is illuminated from below. If you sit with real HDR, you'll never want to go back to SDR again. It's like going back from a summer day to a cloudy, gray day, devoid of colors.
It really depends on the quality of your display. If you have an OLED TV or monitor, always turn on HDR.
from my experience, most mid range LCD/ LED TVs don't have the optimal dynamic color range to support HDR gaming in 4K hence the washed out colors, etc. in that sense SDR will always look better. But the difference is really obvious once you upgrade your display, trust me
@@grapesoda24 it also needs hgig. Why does everyone forget this? A tv with dynamic range will burn your eyes and look unnatural.
I like more in SDR for the luminence
Why?
Luminance is usually brighter in HDR.
But this instance is far better in SDR imo.
Unless he messed up something.
@@GameslordXY the luminance depends a lot on the nits that the panel being used can support, if a screen with infinite contrast is used, the luminance can be adapted to the view, but it always depends a lot on the type of screen, for example I have a panel screen Samsung 4k LCD, but it only supports 300 nits and I need to do magic to get the hdr to look good, otherwise the highlights look very dull, the dark areas look very good, but I would like a panel that has a good balance and not having to resort to qled or oled, most playstation games look great on my screen, xbox games look awful like red dead redemption 2
@@sagenarutoranmagremoryWell QLEDs droped in price dramaticaly.
And don't suffer from burn-in Like OLEDs.
I plan to get one in a 18-24 months at most.
Likely not the cheapest model.
By then I should be able to save up 700€-800€.
Purchase something really, really good and be happy for next 10 years or so.
Perhaps something that was upper midrange - high end in late 2022/early 2023.
That being said,I have seen 500€ LED TVs that had really nice picture(to me at least).
I am however open to LED as well.
OLED?
Not so much,but you never know.
If there was minimum 5 years warranty against Burn-In,I could be convinced.
@@GameslordXY The problem with burnouts is that they do not take care of the devices, we should not leave a fixed image on any screen for too long, it is like people who leave video game consoles in "suspend" mode, shortening the life expectancy of the device, I am saving for an Oled, since I imagine it is like a high-end cell phone, they have a longer life with the manufacturer
@@sagenarutoranmagremory leaving a single imagine on a screen for 10 hours a day is not going to cause burn in instantly, there’s no reason to be scared of it and freak out. It’s how long you use it over long periods of time. For example MMO games or RTS games with HUDs/mini maps on screen. Playing those games for 1K+ hours is what causes burn in. So just play different games and watch different content and you’ll be fine.
HDR means you get details in shadows and bright spots, at the same time, versus having to trade brightness/contrast for one or the other.
It’s photography/videography term, where sometimes we have to composite pictures with different exposure times so we get details in bright and dark areas together.
If you use hdr, the computer graphics processor will have to calculate and rebalance brightness in both bright and dark areas accurately in a smart way to bring out all those details together, this automation requires quite a bit of processing power if you need to do lots of images in a short time.
For all your HDR10 mostly doesn't look that good... Why? Cause you need an for example lg c1 tv or better lg g3 oled tv cause this one is actually 1400-1500nits and 1000nits is requiered to get an real HDR10 Picture
You can actually see hdr on hdr screens thats why we have them, the kontrast is to deep for usual Displays and the output is not the same so thats why we have HDR to show the high kontrast image with les Detail los.
HDR looks awesome on OLED with the right settings.
how can i you the right setting
@@belowsir5222use a correct monitor and a cable that supports the bandwidth hdr requires
So wrong. When using HDR (High Dynamic Range) on your TV, the colors should appear brighter and more vibrant. To achieve the best HDR experience, it is important to enable specific features on your TV or monitor, such as HGIG (HDR Gaming Interest Group) mode. These features help optimize the HDR performance and ensure that you are getting the desired visual enhancements.
So you want oversaturated colors? 😂 Nah it just gives you difference between brightest and darkest areas. XD
@@YavNethis ain't true
i have a great monitor, when i turned hdr on it made all colors look slightly brighter for some reason... high dynamic my ass
extremely biased to use a pre-rendered non HDR cutscene to make such comparison. you should at least use an in-game moment, which has proper HDR implementation, to make a comparison. wouldn't make any sense to adopt a technology that make things look worse.
I like the bottom clip more. Even though i wont be able to see one extra leaf in the air
hdr off here looks awful and blinding
Same I like sdr than hdr
Bro you don't even play hdr
Here is a real comparison. This one is terrible.
th-cam.com/video/cD8pRqx5y1E/w-d-xo.html
@@ivanivan-io2gq
Have you ever seen HDR on a proper HDR display?
I am not claiming you would change your mind, just that you can't truly judge it otherwise.
Flashbang
Honestly HDR has been the biggest graphical game changer as of late. It does way more for how a game looks than ray tracing. In games with HDR if you use SDR the game look really flat and boring in comparison. It was genuinely a wow moment when I got my OLED panel and played some HDR games on it, almost like the jump from 2D to 3D games. The colours were so punchy and stuff like lava and fire actually look how fire and lava should look, the contrast is insane. It’s a game changer for sure if you have a good monitor for it and the game has good HDR (most games do thankfully).
This video is showing an HDR clip on an SDR video.
Finally thank you! What a bunch of morons in the comments
Some things it works well, like at the start where there is too much red/orange. But when she’s running through the trees and bushes, it certainly benefits to have more red/orange gleaming through those little spots the sun shines through the trees. It allows us to see more of what’s going on and doesn’t look so dull.
This clip couldn't be further from the truth. Is this channel a scam?
I have been interested in HDR for many years now, even before it became a common thing in video games. It still amazes me how many people still don't understand what it actually does.
High Dynamic Range does what it's name suggests. In real life colours and light will change at different distances, but cameras cannot usually capture those changes. In order to fix this you can layer images with different lighting to simulate HDR. You can also do the same with virtual environments, like in video games.
Horizon Forbidden West is the worst example however of HDR because it's implemented very poorly. Yes, this video is showing the actual difference when HDR is on and off.
The reason there's a big difference in saturation has nothing to do with HDR itself, but with the HDR tonemap which is usually used to balance HDR. The dev that implemented HDR for this game clearly was doing their own thing separately from the rest of the team.
I would say it's personal preference,
For me: no I realy hate HDR in video games and movies alot.
I Love saturated and colorful displays, so I find no point trying to get rid of colors to get ( More realistic)
Older SNES games were more colorful than nowadays recent HDR games.
Again it's only my opinion, if you like HDR, well I respect you and it is your choice, I like HDR too but only in photos or in taking photos.
When i play games with HDR off it look dark, i need to turn HDR on to look brighter
Sorry but this is BS - my first ever cheap "HDR" tv looked like top, get a decent OLED and HDR on blows off out of the water. Also obviously YT doesn't support HDR here but I'm watching this on a 240Hz
This reel doesn’t show true HDR. Use a 1000+ nits monitor/phone/tablet and watch an actual HDR video and you will be blown away
Most pc gamers will buy a monitor marketed hdr. Which can’t handle more than 400-500 nits and they wonder why hdr doesn’t look amazing.
Having had a Steam Deck for six months or so, I'd say it depends on the game. HDR does improve the look of some games, but it can ruin it with others where you get better contrast by simply turning the brightness down. A good example of this is Elden Ring, where you get very deep blacks on an OLED display if you turn the brightness down, but HDR doesn't even get close to that level of contrast. On the other hand, Deep Rock Galactic (which has had its HDR feature tagged as experimental for ages now) looks like a very different game with HDR on at the cost of some UI elements being illegible due to how dark the blacks are.
Honestly HDR is not worth it. Even when trying to watch movies, it’s just way too dark. Sure you get SLIGHTLY more detail in the shadows, but that’s not enough of a justification for me
if its too dark, then your display isn't capable of getting bright enough to properly support HDR. aim for something with at least 1000 nits of brightness
No, get something with a sick FALD system or OLED. A Display can have 1500 nits but If it has bad contrast and trash edge lit dimming with 16 zones then it's trash HDR and just lasers your eyes.
@@flockelocke2297 I've come back to this and realize what the problem is. HDR10 is just garbage. HDR10+ is decent, but Dolby Vision is where it's really at
@@NoCluYT dark? What are you talking about. I have over 600 movies. A third is 4k Blu-ray’s and I can’t remember one single movie looking too dark on my oled tv.
@@Vitorfernandes83this was me when I was using an LCD display. Yeah it's only worth it on OLED. Should've made that more clear. In LCD it just makes everything look bland, but on OLED it pops
HRD Off for me. I didn't likes the color so wash out when HDR On
Watching this in sdr and hdr still looks better 😂
because his hdr display is not good enough
Monitor with HDR has High Dynamic Range. This make the color more situated
I dislike the affects of HDR. I prefer more color pop in my playthroughs.
That's because you haven't see PROPER HDR in an OLED or Full array LED...IPS is terrible for HDR
You can still tweak HDR to be as colorful as you want. I set my HDR settings to be more saturated and I can‘t lie, I never want to go back to SDR…
I’ve been on a LG C2 playing games for a few months and decided to try HDR. It was broken on PC washes out whiteness to the image. Updated my windows to windows 11 and it looks amazing I’m never going back to SDR. I can’t believe I was missing out on this the whole time.
So you are too poor to afford proper HDR monitor
@@hevytheghost5233 lol ignorance is bliss. Color pop lol
Horizon Zero Dawn ❤
This completely misinterprets HDR and SDR. The bottom clip has vivid colours while the top looks normal.
Good rule of thumb; if you don't have an hdr monitor, dont enable hdr.
Side note, if you DO have an hdr monitor, do NOT enable windows hdr or in-game hdr. Only turn it on from the monitor settings.
HDR10 is worth it if you use your settings right. If you don't, your image will look terrible
Depends on your tv also and how your connecting them
You need to tune some of those colors down in the bottom. Your saturation and possibly a few other settings like even your brightness look as if they're jacked up to high.
Ah yes. HDR. I and many of the wannabe experts in the comments watching this on their phone can tell which is HDR even when the video itself is not HDR enabled.
Even in a subpar HDR monitor I could even tell the difference from playing games with HDR. I just like the more contrast shadow details in HDR and the specular highlights. It really is an experience.
HDR makes everything look better on my QD-OLED monitor.
Fr for me too
Depending on the TV's HDMI version and the resolution used, HDR uses YUV color standard, which is inferior to RGB, so the image becomes less vivid, but it certainly improves the dark and white areas of the game.
These are flipped, top is what my tv monitor normally looks like, bottom is with it on
Then you don’t have a good tv. SDR looks better than both those images. HDR looks way better than both those images.
yes i dont usually use HDR either. Not only does it wash everythint out but it also makes text blurry
Its exactly the opposite. The comments are bot generated and target specific people. No one is that stupid.
Bruh I have hdr on on my ps5 and it looks brownish and less vibrant
@@chrxs61632 u need an hdr400 screen man. i got a basic hdr monitor and it looks this bad but with an hdr 800 or 1k screen it looks like the bottom with hdr on.
@@slumy8195 if you looks like the bottom. Or top. You have a terrible tv.
I love the way he says “HDR”
In my opinion 4k is great but hdr is what really sells it
nothing to do with resolution
Thank you for the example bro!😊
Can you guess which clip has the color saturation set way too high?
@@JR-kx3jr brightness is even worse than saturation. The whites are bleeding into the picture.
He’s not bullshitting HDR on Xbox was so bugs for so long it was ruining my image quality as soon as I turned it off I could finally see colors again ❤
It was like seeing colors for the first time
In no clip you can see hdr, that is like asking what clip is using color, when everyone uses black and white monitors. All you can see is a different saturation and not what hdr is all about.
Most mobile phone have HDR these days. Even on the low midrange ones 😘
@@cocobos Yes, but this video isn't in HDR so there's no way to see the difference.
Ya. This video is whack. Either Zero Dawn is just weird, or there are more settings changed between the two. This video shows nothing but over saturated colors in the SDR example.
@@sawdust8691do you have any good examples of hdr content on youtube on games?
@Halit Erdogan the channel Gaming Tech focuses on HDR games. If you're interested in settings and testing check him out.
HDR content on TH-cam never looks as good. You need a good HDR display with proper settings to get the most out of it. And TH-cam compresses video. So HDR will always look better in person from the source.
You may see a bit of difference in HDR youtube videos, but it won't look as good as in person.
To see what you can with TH-cam, you need a real HDR video. Which this video is not. And watch it on an HDR capable display. Which if you are on a phone probably doesn't have HDR. And you need to find a good example, which this isn't. He totally changed the settings a lot for some reason.
This video shows a side by side comparison in Avengers Endgame. It still won't look as good since it's not an HDR video, but you can still see some difference. More contrast, brighter highlights, more detail and color. Same in games. th-cam.com/video/suWVZ8xlMyo/w-d-xo.html
Its because older games where build without HDR in mind and they had a more artistic/colorful style to stand out. HDR just strips that vision and makes them dull, however most newer games do look great with HDR.
You can really see how some games get affected if you play backcompact games on the series X and mess with the auto HDR.
personally higer frame rates and a strong art direction are way better than most HDR, Raytracing and Realistic graphics.
The hdr make more realistic.
Ever since I switched to a 1440p 144HZ IPS HDR monitor from LG I can never go back to SDR. The content and games look so natural and real that it makes a night and day difference.
HDR off looks better :O
In fairness you're watching it on an SDR video. HDR in person is fantastic
@@nickindie4704 true
The top one is not HDR, it’s clearly fake. I have a 4K 55” HDR10+ Dolby vision tv, and all HDR films and games look like the bottom one, with 4K and HDR enabled. It looks like the top one when it’s turned off.
No sdr looks way to saturated
Are you even watching on an HDR monitor? That might be the problem.
Finally a person that only makes us wait 5 seconds for the answer instead of other TH-camrs saying to us we will reveal at the end of the video but then they never do
Just because it's HDR, doesn't mean it's a good HDR. HDR needs a lot of work by professionals but if it's done right, it can be amazing
That said, the HDR has better dynamic range and colors look more realistic too
And the amount of games that have been professionally calibrated with hdr, scene by scene are very few, therefor hdr is a scam if sdr is better 98% of the time
HDR off would look good for games like last of us, Spider-Man, minecraft maybe god of war, but then hdr on would look good for like horror types of games or maybe stealth games, both look great tho
So I not only one with this problem, I found HDR setting, turning it on, kinda hurt my eye a little cause it waaaay to bright, turning it off, Without HDR look better, If you on Sony Bravia, would not recommend fully turn on HDR, not worth it, just turn on high resolution on your PS4/PS5 and put most of tv setting Auto and turn your brightness and sharpness max and bam it look getting better already so yeah just letting yall know
Just turn down the brightness when hdr is on bro
@POSTBOY
That literally one of them I try when HDR on, It still not good as without HDR, that why I suggest yall to use Without HDR cause it better that way,
Never turn sharpness on, let alone put it to the max, especially not in gaming. It leaves artifacts and weird shadows around moving objects, you should turn most settings off to have the best experience as is intended by the creator
@@PlaystationGamerZX it sounds like your tv doesn’t have hgig. It’s using dynamic range. I had the same issue on my old Sony tv. Almost damaged my eyes.
Wait did you just say SDR torn your brightness to max? What? On Sony TVs never go above 50 brightness. I was using 25 for SDR. 100 for hdr.
What did you say? Sharpness to max? Boy até are so confused. Do you even know what you’re saying?
@@postboy2242 no. HDR is mastered to be with max brightness max contrast. And supposed to be watched in a dark room. Just disable dinamic range hdr.
To be honest if you don't do your settings in game with HDR on it's going to look trashy I learned this the hard way and I found out that adjusting the way you want your picture to look with HDR on looks a lot better than just going straight in with HDR on because if you go straight in you going to get that ugly trashy look and you going to want to turn it off and if you ask me it looks a lot better off but when you're adjust it it looks a whole lot 10 times better
False, I think bottom is HDR. My Samsung TV has HDR and the colours look very bright with HDR enabled.
The guy that made this video us an idiot. At one glance I can tell his settings are ALL messed up. God knows what he's done to that tv
You can't see the difference if you're not watching on a HDR display, but it's not just that there are more colour bits per pixel, with a good display there's an increase in actual brightness and darkness. The difference between HDR and regular RGB massive and definitely worth it.
You know what , i prefer Hdr cause it does not annoy my eyes as if it was off...
Hdr on my monitor makes a night/day difference on colors in most games makes dark areas darker and bright areas brighter. Works better if you have a higher peak brightness monitor aswell for those whites.
I heard the stream deck might get HDR support, so yes :D
No, that’s not how it works
@@VaydaladaVodalada yeah, it is. If hdr support is implemented, and you have an HDR compatible monitor, you will be able to make use of it. How is that not how it works?
@@Vancha112 that’s not how HDR works you nimrod. HDR requires a certain color depth from the screen along with a peak brightness in highlights.
You’re falling for fake HDR which is just a label on a box.
@@VaydaladaVodalada you don't know who you're talking to, but that's fine. I know how hdr works. If anything regarding my previous comment is unclear just let me know.
@@Vancha112 imagine doubling down on stupidity this hard
HDR is terrible. I always have it off
The most (probably deliberate) misinformed video about HDR on the planet.
Got the AOC 27in mini led 180hz monitor, comes with HDR up to 1100nits for $270 definitely recommend to anyone looking for a budget friendly true hdr experience
I prefer the one on the bottom.
You really don’t if you were actually looking at it in HDR this is a video of an hdr game but it’s in SDR. It’s like taking a mic from the 1950s and playing a high quality song on it from today. Also even if your display is hdr the vidio is not so the format is heavily limiting the brightness and color range.
most people are watching this on a non-hdr screen, so are really only seeing how bad hdr looks on a regular screen (or even a low quality hdr screen, low quality hdr tends to look worse than sdr)
Ngl most people are probably on an oled phone rn I think the main issue is the guy recording put a saturation filter on the bottom and the hdr clip on top looks like its coming from an hdr 400 monitor plus yt shorts dont support hdr I dont think
Keep in mind that hdr makes the image different from what the creators intended it to look like and unless you have a very high end tv or monitor hdr will make your content look washed out with brightened shadows and dull colors. Also, as someone who has played HZD multiple times I can tell this SDR video has been saturated
I have a sony tv and playing spiderman 2 on 4k hdr after playing the previous spiderman in normal 4k and it looks bit dark for me and like u said i think it is washed out a little idk what to do i guess im just turning hdr off
This clip isn't HDR. And even if it was you'd still need an HDR screen to display it and there's various other factors. It's not a good representation at all.
The only certain thing is that Aloy in the child version remains a nightmare in both settings.
HDR example here is not good.., as HDR often gives more colour depth too, with lights / shadows
But i like hdr off colorful
Maaaaannnnnnn i thought my eyes way fukd up for years. Im soooo glad someone covered this. I new hdr was a piece of shit. This video needs to go viral because im SICK of all these videos an companies an sponsors saying hdr this an hdr that. Hdr is a color washing piece of shit LITERALLY. 😂
Hdr 400 and hdr 600 on budget monitors dont have true hdr if u have a flagship phone w an oled panel turn up the brightness to max and watch hdr content to see for urself
HDR hates colors obviously… hate it
if you have eyes of a child you would enjoy sdr
@@eazy_100s6 are kidding me ? Most of the time hdr is just colorless and with some kind of grey filter … its useless
@@Ebenezum13 then you are either using it wrong or you are playing hdr gimmick games
@@eazy_100s6 no need to be rude some people like more color
@@Yang_1230 if they want color then they can just use sdr and increase the saturation
Idk if I’m doing something wrong with my settings but I hate hdr to me it looks better off
I like how HDR looks but the brightness is locked and kills my eyes, is wayyy intense so I have it off
Hdr makes miracles. I had an xbox one x that played many games in 4k or a little less with hdr and i was fantastic. But the big difference eas on my ps4 slim. Most game used to play in 1080p and games withou hdr was a little bad in my lg c1 and games with hdr looked great. Of course id like to have a ps4 pro and ply it in 4k, but hdr made such a difference that i didnt miss it so much.
If anyone is reading this I love using HDR after I realized what the problem was. DO NOT turn on HDR in your game, just leave it on in your TV or windows and monitor setting. You're welcome, yes it's the games that put the bare minimum on HDR that's why it looks so bad and they release it like that they don't care, just let your device add that nice color depth and you're good to go, keep in my mind that because it's relatively new even your device might not adjust the brightness so you might have to turn it up manually although I found that turning up contrast fixed the brightness
Lmao what a bullshit video 😂
Without showing the reference it’s difficult to compare which one is closer to director’s intentions. But assuming HDR has proper tone mapping, it should be closer. In contrast, the SDR colors below are really oversaturated and lots of clipping in the highlights, losing a lot of details. There are picture modes that add additional post processing to “enhance” the SDR experience by up converting HDR. But they aren’t directors intent thus may have artifacts coz they lack the metadata to ensure each scene is properly tone mapped to avoid over saturation and clippings.
In the comparison I prefer the more bright and vibrant picture and I guessed that was hdr wth
HDR is impossible to explain in a video like this where it’s not supported
hdr off looks so good
Thank you
Nah it's too blinding as shit
@@XxDevGlitcherxX those look so bad bruh
Hmmm if you are used to having your brightness low-hdr off looks better… while having really high brightness-hdr looks amazing
I’ve found that HDR works well on certain games but terrible on others. For instance it makes doom eternal look like a cartoon for some reason… but on tarkov it makes it look way more detailed and realistic.
Maybe I have no idea what I’m doing… I probably have no idea what I’m doing… but it’s something I’ve noticed…
bro set the contrast to 200 😂😂
HDR ABSOLUTELY makes the experience better
Is it the HDR’s fault or we just assume that high saturation = good graphics
I feel like I've seen that clip before but the bottom was hdr😂
I have hdr in my monitor and i hate it, like i never use it 😅
I hate HDR, makes my games look terrible