Good man Howard ! A brilliant ly simple and informative video. I 've just bought a Giant Seek 0 with Alfine hub & disc brakes - had the bike 30 minutes and got a puncture ! Couple of mates said "Oooooh - that'll need to go to the bike shop - it's gonna cost you every time that happens!" Anyway I watched your vid and followed it to the letter - viola! wheel taken off, repaired and put back on thanks to you! Well done and thanks again
Nice. Shimano Nexus hubs are also popular on dutch bikes, but removing them is usually a lot harder than that. You would have to: take apart the chain case (chains are fully enclosed), release the gear changer cable, release the roller brake cable, release the roller brake arm, release the adjusting screws for the horizontal dropouts. That's why we always patch the inner tube w/o removing the wheel. Otherwise you're just turning a 15 minutes job into a 1.5 hours job.
Perfect example of a really useful 'How to' video. A hell of a lot easier than trying to grow a third hand to do the job! The point about torque wrenches is absolutely right, I learned hat lesson! and the torque set never leaves the garage.
Thank you so much for the video. I bought a bike with an Alfine hub last year. Got my first flat this year. I've had experience taking apart my previous bikes, but this hub with the disc brake had me scratching my head. Thanks again.
Excellent explanation and great camera work. Best illustration I have seen so far of the procedure. I will go out and take my rear wheel off with glee. Thank you so much !
Excellent video- objective clearly stated, clear concise instruction and good camera work. More importantly - no waffle or unnecessary comment. Thank you for your expertise.
Thanks for the video. I am delighted with my Shimano Alfine : reliable, maintenance free , very quiet ... I love it. Removing the wheel is straight forward, no issues .
Extremely helpful guide, many thanks. Easy once you know how. I had read that taking the rear wheel off a mechanical gear hub bike was really hard work, to the point that it almost makes the convenience of the hub obsolete. I was dreading the day I got a flat because of that, but it's really not that hard to do, no harder than with a cassette and derailleur in my opinion...
Thanks a ton! I'd done this before and just used my fingers to remove the gear change cable, and it was a hell of a hard time. Thanks to you I learned it did not have to be...
thanks. The first time i put my wheel back together i spent two hours only to assemble it incorrectly. Then after watching this i did it in 30 seconds!!
That was very useful. I didn't know about using a hex key to turn the spring loaded cable thingamajig. I used to struggle a lot with taking the cable off and putting it back on again.
Thank you for your video tutorial, magichow. It gave me the confidence I needed to take my Alfine hub off in order to change the sprocket (which, in hindsight, is more hassle than it's worth). At least now I know how straightforward it is, so thanks again!
Great video, I had the wheel off in no time yesterday after a catastrophic puncture thanks to this. Was completely stumped otherwise. Looks like you've got a charge mixer exactly like mine if I'm not mistaken, awesome bike.
Thanks! Just needed to replace the tube for the first time on my Sun Drifter 8 - would have been pretty difficult to figure out the shifter cable removal without your vid. ;)
I find that disconnecting the gear cable before taking off the chain makes it a bit easier and cleaner. The same goes to the replacement process: chain first, gear cable second.
tip: the retaining bolt for the gear change cable has the nut facing you. I just took off my Nexus 7 cable to change my rear tyre for the first time. I found it fiddly - the next time will be easier but I think I'd still pay the bike shop to do it - I am so much more familiar with deraillure set-ups.
Thanks Howard - Stripped it as much as I could and then re-greased it and its working fine now - after about 6 attempts to get the cones tight enough- a design fault though - you cant tighten the disc lockring with the cone in place and vice versa - or maybe i need a different tool- dont know
Note that Sidewinder and other linear tyres are best used only as a 'get you home or to the bike shop' measure as the crimped ends can rub against each other and are more likely to puncture than round tubes. That said, I'd always carry a couple, especially with a hub-geared electric bike.
Cool, great video, im debating getting myself a Genesis IO ID with the Alfine hub, but im wanting to do a huge cycle across Spain and this looks like I may need to be carrying a fair bit of toolage so I might go for a tubeless rear tire so that I can lose the tools
Woohoo, and a Charge Mixer, just like the shiny new addition to my stable. BTW, I think that's a "skelton" spanner, at least that's what we call them. Oh, and I love the bell twisted upside down - I usually forget and wonder why the bike falls over!
Thank-you. This gives me the confidence to pull the trigger on a bike with Nexus hub, knowing I can get the wheel off for a tire change. BTW, at 2:42 in the video, you loosened the right hand side bolt saying to turn it "clockwise" to loosen, but you are turning it counterclockwise on camera. Am I missing something?
excellent video - many thanks - since removing my wheel - my chain seems to be a bit loose. do you have any tips on how taught the chain should be, or any vids on how to tighten the chain. I too have Charge Mixer - epic fun!
nice vid , but why do you suggest 4th gear , i use 1st gear as it gives more cable slack , enough slack to remove the cable without the allen key or pliers
Good video, but do you have any idea on how to service one - as mine has been temperamental and seriously started skipping and crunching gears on tonights night ride- I think I have bent the innards - I'm not convinced they are up to MTB abuse - I have an IOID
@darrylatube don't think you'd need to change your tyre that often. it's only an annoyance when I want to change the rear tyres to something gripper for riding off the beaten path but that it.
Yes,that will effectively increase all 8 gear ratios over the stock set-up ,assuming your cadence remains the same you will be traveling faster. I did just that with my bike.
Thanks for this video. I have an Alfine hub on my 2009 Bad Boy 8 commuter bike. I was planning on buying a turbo trainer to exercise at home, but may upgrade my rear wheel to a specific trainer wheel. Has anyone used an Alfine hub on a turbo trainer? Do I need to replace the thru axle with the one that comes with the trainer? . From what I can see, my exiting axle bolts protrude enough to lock into the trainer. Any thoughts?
Thanks for the helpful vid, I was able to remove wheel and fit full mudguards. However, since doing it I can feel (rather than hear) a rumbling catarrh 'noise' through my pedals in all gears that wasn't there for the previous 3000 miles. The yellow dots are aligned and there's no rub on the guards. Any ideas?
Did I miss the bit about how to stop the gear shift mechanism popping off the hub? That's what's happened to me and not figured out how to refit yet. 30 minute job taken over an hour so far!
@magichow Many thanks for suggestions. As it happens evrything settled back to buttery-smooth of it's own accord! Wheel had been taken off in the local bike shop before this time but should be able to deal with most stuff myself from now thanks to your vid.
Thanks for the useful info about the gearing system. It saved me a lot of time.But I got a problem in the process. I was changing the wheel and after putting all the things back. I noticed my first 3 gears are not working. Actually the cable doesn't move at all when I am changing first 3 gears. But soon after I shift to number 4 it clicks and works fine till the last gear. By the way the name of my gear is Cj nx10. What could be the reason for that, Please help me in this. Thanks a lot Regards
Pg 23 of latest shimano service manual says put the shifter into the 8th gear before starting. Another video says use the lowest gearing and you say to put it into the 4th gear. Does it really matter or what?
I've just acquired an Airnimal bike with such a hub so for someone who hasn't had a bike with a hub gear for some years this is very useful. thanks. Not exactly quick release, though! I was a little confused when you suggest slackening off the axle nuts on the RHS clockwise which made me think it was left hand thread but when I watched again you turned it anti-clockwise. So I assume both nuts are normal right hand thread. Presumably you could use a suitable spanner to turn the cable holding nut rather than a pair of snipe nose pliers which are heavy and bulky to carry?
Thank you for the tutorial. I have a huge problem! After replacing the old wheel with a new wheel, the wheel is turning the 'wrong' way. I.e. when I pedal forward nothing happens, but when I turn the pedals backwards the wheel turns around (going backwards). Do you know what mistake I have made? It's a Shimano Nexus 8 speed.
Thanks much for the video. I'll add a few tips: 1. Make sure you push the 2mm Allen key or spoke all the way down into the lug: Otherwise, that little piece of plastic might break, forcing you to get a new Cassette Joint Unit (CJ-8S20, here) 2. When putting the cable back into place, make sure the it goes through the right groove. Otherwise, the indexing will be messed up 3. The anchor bolt has a different shape at the bottom, so it can only enter in a given position 4. Make sure the bolt sits snug: Otherwise, the cable will snap at some point, and again, this will mess the indexing. Here''s a picture from one of my bikes, where the lug is broken and the cable a bit frayed: s10.postimg.org/40ivaq5u1/Shimano.Nexus.8.close.up.jpg If you have to get a new cable, make sure the anchor bolt is tightened at exactly 101mm from the ferrule (184mm for the Alfine 11). To make this easier, Shimano sells a "TL-S700-B Inner Cable Fixing Bolt Setting Tool". FYI, Shimano wised up and built a different cassette joint for the Alfine 11, which requires no Allen key/spoke to rotate. It's easier when repairing a puncture on the side of the road.
Hi there, can I use the wheel set complete with alfine 8 hub and the disc, on to the frame which not support the disc brake but only the v brake or cantilever? If possible what should you reckon for me tp be able to use it.Thanks
You say don't get grease on the shifter cable - why? I cannot see a real problem caused with grease on the cable, but then when replacing the wheel hold it by the disc - which you do not want grease on at all. I also find it much quicker and easier to pull the cable outer out of the holder first. This then gives a load of slack in the cable and can be removed from the hub with fingers. Putting the cable in the hub first and then cable outer in holder is also much easier when replacing wheel.
Awesome video! BUT (and it's a big but) you should never put a bike with hydraulic brakes upside down. This can form air bubbles that would go thorught the cable and make the brake not work at all as the liquid will not work properly...happened to me!
Useful vid but why do people seem to think you need to take the wheel off to repair a puncture. Whip the tube out with the wheel situ. Patch, fit, inflate and away you go.
I'm not sure if I should do this to my bike bc im tryin to replace the wheel myself. My bike doesnt have a quick release. Just bolts on both sides. The gear cable is on the same side as the cassette. The bolt on the other side of the casette came off easily, but the cassette side is not giving way. Getting so frustrated. My bike said Shimano on the derailer or wtv so I decided to youtube it, hence I'm here. Someone plz help :(
Good man Howard ! A brilliant ly simple and informative video. I 've just bought a Giant Seek 0 with Alfine hub & disc brakes - had the bike 30 minutes and got a puncture !
Couple of mates said "Oooooh - that'll need to go to the bike shop - it's gonna cost you every time that happens!"
Anyway I watched your vid and followed it to the letter - viola! wheel taken off, repaired and put back on thanks to you!
Well done and thanks again
Excellent video - really clear, well filmed, very helpful and now I feel much more comfortable about changing the tire on my rear wheel. Thank You!
Nice. Shimano Nexus hubs are also popular on dutch bikes, but removing them is usually a lot harder than that. You would have to: take apart the chain case (chains are fully enclosed), release the gear changer cable, release the roller brake cable, release the roller brake arm, release the adjusting screws for the horizontal dropouts. That's why we always patch the inner tube w/o removing the wheel. Otherwise you're just turning a 15 minutes job into a 1.5 hours job.
Perfect example of a really useful 'How to' video. A hell of a lot easier than trying to grow a third hand to do the job! The point about torque wrenches is absolutely right, I learned hat lesson! and the torque set never leaves the garage.
Thank you so much for the video. I bought a bike with an Alfine hub last year. Got my first flat this year. I've had experience taking apart my previous bikes, but this hub with the disc brake had me scratching my head. Thanks again.
Excellent explanation and great camera work. Best illustration I have seen so far of the procedure. I will go out and take my rear wheel off with glee. Thank you so much !
STILL extremely helpful and simple to follow, even with a Gates belt drive instead of a chain. Thank you!
Excellent video- objective clearly stated, clear concise instruction and good camera work. More importantly - no waffle or unnecessary comment. Thank you for your expertise.
Your description of tools is amazing....now I’m aware of what an adjustable spanner really is
🤣 that’s not an adjustable spanner
Thanks for the video.
I am delighted with my Shimano Alfine : reliable, maintenance free , very quiet ... I love it.
Removing the wheel is straight forward, no issues .
Really helpful. My model was a bit different, but your tips to remove the gear change cable were just what I needed!
Extremely helpful guide, many thanks.
Easy once you know how. I had read that taking the rear wheel off a mechanical gear hub bike was really hard work, to the point that it almost makes the convenience of the hub obsolete. I was dreading the day I got a flat because of that, but it's really not that hard to do, no harder than with a cassette and derailleur in my opinion...
Perfect video. Just what I needed to tackle my first ever removal of a rear wheel with a Shimano 8 speed hub gear. Thank you!
Thank you. Superb video. I got a slow puncture and was wondering how to disconnect the gear cable. Now I know thanks to you.
Thanks heaps. You taught me more in 10mins than 2 hours of trawling through the Shimano website. I'm off to change my tyre.
Thanks a ton! I'd done this before and just used my fingers to remove the gear change cable, and it was a hell of a hard time. Thanks to you I learned it did not have to be...
thanks. The first time i put my wheel back together i spent two hours only to assemble it incorrectly. Then after watching this i did it in 30 seconds!!
Still helpful after all these years. Thank you 👍🏻
That was very useful. I didn't know about using a hex key to turn the spring loaded cable thingamajig. I used to struggle a lot with taking the cable off and putting it back on again.
Thank you for your video tutorial, magichow. It gave me the confidence I needed to take my Alfine hub off in order to change the sprocket (which, in hindsight, is more hassle than it's worth). At least now I know how straightforward it is, so thanks again!
You just saved me a couple hours of life. Thanks for details man
GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!! Just what I needed to remove my back wheel. Greatly appreciated.
Great video, I had the wheel off in no time yesterday after a catastrophic puncture thanks to this. Was completely stumped otherwise.
Looks like you've got a charge mixer exactly like mine if I'm not mistaken, awesome bike.
Thanks! Just needed to replace the tube for the first time on my Sun Drifter 8 - would have been pretty difficult to figure out the shifter cable removal without your vid. ;)
:D :D :D
I find that disconnecting the gear cable before taking off the chain makes it a bit easier and cleaner. The same goes to the replacement process: chain first, gear cable second.
tip: the retaining bolt for the gear change cable has the nut facing you. I just took off my Nexus 7 cable to change my rear tyre for the first time. I found it fiddly - the next time will be easier but I think I'd still pay the bike shop to do it - I am so much more familiar with deraillure set-ups.
Very helpful. Thank you. Not familiar with this design, I was worried it would be difficult, but pretty easy once you know how it works.
Thanks - its easy when you know how - but hard when you don't - this film made it easy :)
Nice, here in holland the whole nexus system looks diffrent, it's on every bike over here. Greetz from The Netherlands
lifesaver. first time getting a flat on my commute with the new bike.
I have a belt drive, and works the same as a chain. Great video. Thanks
Thanks Howard - Stripped it as much as I could and then re-greased it and its working fine now - after about 6 attempts to get the cones tight enough- a design fault though - you cant tighten the disc lockring with the cone in place and vice versa - or maybe i need a different tool- dont know
Thank you so much for your post. Explained it really well. 😊
Note that Sidewinder and other linear tyres are best used only as a 'get you home or to the bike shop' measure as the crimped ends can rub against each other and are more likely to puncture than round tubes. That said, I'd always carry a couple, especially with a hub-geared electric bike.
Thanks for this video. Helped me greatly tonight fixing my bike. Cheers!
Thank you for this video-exactly what I needed to know 🙏🏻
Thanks for posting this video. It worked as you showed and was easy once you knew the trick.
Cool, great video, im debating getting myself a Genesis IO ID with the Alfine hub, but im wanting to do a huge cycle across Spain and this looks like I may need to be carrying a fair bit of toolage so I might go for a tubeless rear tire so that I can lose the tools
excellent video. I only hope I find it as easy. I'm glad I don't have roller brakes.
thank you Howard. I will be thinking of you if I get a puncture.
Remove gear shift cable from cable stop before the chain. This way the gear shift cable can be moved further away from the chain.
Great video. I used it to immediately change my Dunlop valves to Presta valves. Thanks.
Woohoo, and a Charge Mixer, just like the shiny new addition to my stable.
BTW, I think that's a "skelton" spanner, at least that's what we call them.
Oh, and I love the bell twisted upside down - I usually forget and wonder why the bike falls over!
Very useful demonstration. Thanks for taking the time!
Thank-you. This gives me the confidence to pull the trigger on a bike with Nexus hub, knowing I can get the wheel off for a tire change. BTW, at 2:42 in the video, you loosened the right hand side bolt saying to turn it "clockwise" to loosen, but you are turning it counterclockwise on camera. Am I missing something?
Thank you. Just needed the information given in your video!
excellent video - many thanks - since removing my wheel - my chain seems to be a bit loose. do you have any tips on how taught the chain should be, or any vids on how to tighten the chain. I too have Charge Mixer - epic fun!
Thank you for such a good video. It was very clear and easy to follow. Thank you.
Thanks a lot. This video helped me with fixing my bicycle.
Thank you for the upload. Very clearly explained!
nice vid , but why do you suggest 4th gear , i use 1st gear as it gives more cable slack , enough slack to remove the cable without the allen key or pliers
Excellent video. What's all the background noise on the audio though?
Thanks, that was very clearly explained.
Thanks for you video it’s very helpful. I’m in Taiwan.
Good video, but do you have any idea on how to service one - as mine has been temperamental and seriously started skipping and crunching gears on tonights night ride- I think I have bent the innards - I'm not convinced they are up to MTB abuse - I have an IOID
@darrylatube don't think you'd need to change your tyre that often.
it's only an annoyance when I want to change the rear tyres to something gripper for riding off the beaten path but that it.
Great video.....but what if i change my chainring to a bigger one and my rear sprocket to a smaller one will that make me go faster?
Yes,that will effectively increase all 8 gear ratios over the stock set-up ,assuming your cadence remains the same you will be traveling faster. I did just that with my bike.
Sorry for the late reply - thanks for all your help!
seen another video where they say to move the gear shifter to position one so the cable is as slack as possible ?
Thanks for this video. I have an Alfine hub on my 2009 Bad Boy 8 commuter bike. I was planning on buying a turbo trainer to exercise at home, but may upgrade my rear wheel to a specific trainer wheel. Has anyone used an Alfine hub on a turbo trainer? Do I need to replace the thru axle with the one that comes with the trainer? . From what I can see, my exiting axle bolts protrude enough to lock into the trainer. Any thoughts?
Thanks for the helpful vid, I was able to remove wheel and fit full mudguards. However, since doing it I can feel (rather than hear) a rumbling catarrh 'noise' through my pedals in all gears that wasn't there for the previous 3000 miles. The yellow dots are aligned and there's no rub on the guards. Any ideas?
Thanks for the video, helped me a lot with changing tires today! :-)
Did I miss the bit about how to stop the gear shift mechanism popping off the hub? That's what's happened to me and not figured out how to refit yet. 30 minute job taken over an hour so far!
@magichow Many thanks for suggestions. As it happens evrything settled back to buttery-smooth of it's own accord! Wheel had been taken off in the local bike shop before this time but should be able to deal with most stuff myself from now thanks to your vid.
What holds the gear changer to the hub mine comes off the hub is something missing ? good vid :)
Thank you. This video was helping a lot.
Thanks for the useful info about the gearing system. It saved me a lot of time.But I got a problem in the process. I was changing the wheel and after putting all the things back. I noticed my first 3 gears are not working. Actually the cable doesn't move at all when I am changing first 3 gears. But soon after I shift to number 4 it clicks and works fine till the last gear. By the way the name of my gear is Cj nx10. What could be the reason for that, Please help me in this. Thanks a lot
Regards
Great video, couldn't have fathomed this one out otherwise. Cheers!
Excellent, many thanks for posting.
Pg 23 of latest shimano service manual says put the shifter into the 8th gear before starting. Another video says use the lowest gearing and you say to put it into the 4th gear. Does it really matter or what?
I wondered why my toolkit had a piece of spoke in it!
I've just acquired an Airnimal bike with such a hub so for someone who hasn't had a bike with a hub gear for some years this is very useful. thanks. Not exactly quick release, though!
I was a little confused when you suggest slackening off the axle nuts on the RHS clockwise which made me think it was left hand thread but when I watched again you turned it anti-clockwise. So I assume both nuts are normal right hand thread.
Presumably you could use a suitable spanner to turn the cable holding nut rather than a pair of snipe nose pliers which are heavy and bulky to carry?
Thank you for the tutorial.
I have a huge problem! After replacing the old wheel with a new wheel, the wheel is turning the 'wrong' way.
I.e. when I pedal forward nothing happens, but when I turn the pedals backwards the wheel turns around (going backwards).
Do you know what mistake I have made? It's a Shimano Nexus 8 speed.
Thanks much for the video.
I'll add a few tips:
1. Make sure you push the 2mm Allen key or spoke all the way down into the lug: Otherwise, that little piece of plastic might break, forcing you to get a new Cassette Joint Unit (CJ-8S20, here)
2. When putting the cable back into place, make sure the it goes through the right groove. Otherwise, the indexing will be messed up
3. The anchor bolt has a different shape at the bottom, so it can only enter in a given position
4. Make sure the bolt sits snug: Otherwise, the cable will snap at some point, and again, this will mess the indexing.
Here''s a picture from one of my bikes, where the lug is broken and the cable a bit frayed:
s10.postimg.org/40ivaq5u1/Shimano.Nexus.8.close.up.jpg
If you have to get a new cable, make sure the anchor bolt is tightened at exactly 101mm from the ferrule (184mm for the Alfine 11). To make this easier, Shimano sells a "TL-S700-B Inner Cable Fixing Bolt Setting Tool".
FYI, Shimano wised up and built a different cassette joint for the Alfine 11, which requires no Allen key/spoke to rotate. It's easier when repairing a puncture on the side of the road.
Hi there, can I use the wheel set complete with alfine 8 hub and the disc, on to the frame which not support the disc brake but only the v brake or cantilever? If possible what should you reckon for me tp be able to use it.Thanks
This dude doesn't have a clue,you would need to replace the rim with one designed for the forces of rim brakes.
Did you have to spread your frame apart to fit the Alfine in there or was your back fork wide enough?
You say don't get grease on the shifter cable - why? I cannot see a real problem caused with grease on the cable, but then when replacing the wheel hold it by the disc - which you do not want grease on at all.
I also find it much quicker and easier to pull the cable outer out of the holder first. This then gives a load of slack in the cable and can be removed from the hub with fingers. Putting the cable in the hub first and then cable outer in holder is also much easier when replacing wheel.
Awesome video! BUT (and it's a big but) you should never put a bike with hydraulic brakes upside down. This can form air bubbles that would go thorught the cable and make the brake not work at all as the liquid will not work properly...happened to me!
Thanks! It worked for a 7-gear one as well.
Thanks for that! I have the Alfine 11, do you still put the gear to 4 or would you say gear 6?
this doesn't seem to work for my Subway 8. i think it's to do with the brake... any help?
Excellent. Clear, well explained.
Thanks, really helped, but I must say, it's a royal pain to do this in the field.
ohh man, that would take a long time if i got a flat to work, but thanks now I know!
Thanks, I can now remove and refit my Charge Mixers' rear wheel
Good video, nice and slow, very clear.
Thanks for this. It was extremely useful.
Cheers mate, you're a lifesaver.
Thank you, excellent tutorial.
You legend:) thankyou,I think you just saved my marriage:D!!!
Huh?!
Why the need to put it in 4th gear first? Seems like you would want to use the lowest gear to put the most slack in the cable.
just saved me 20 minutes I reckon!
My gear change cable for some reason disconnects and falling regularly
Useful vid but why do people seem to think you need to take the wheel off to repair a puncture. Whip the tube out with the wheel situ. Patch, fit, inflate and away you go.
Very helpful, thank you
I'm not sure if I should do this to my bike bc im tryin to replace the wheel myself. My bike doesnt have a quick release. Just bolts on both sides. The gear cable is on the same side as the cassette. The bolt on the other side of the casette came off easily, but the cassette side is not giving way. Getting so frustrated. My bike said Shimano on the derailer or wtv so I decided to youtube it, hence I'm here. Someone plz help :(
Thank you!! Super helpful!
Most helpful. Thanks.
Great video. Many thanks.
Foi muito longo a explicação, mas muito util. Obrigado
You're using the spanner incorrectly (if you can call it a spanner!), but I guess it still got the job done.