I wanted to mention the grip section spinning occurs if you tighten the nib unit down by hand. If you use some gripping material to get extra torque, it is possible to compress the AL grip enough to prevent it from spinning.
@ for what I can tell all of the 580 grips are designed the same way (just differing in material and finish). So yes, if you don’t tighten them fully they could spin similar to what I show. However the ALR is the only one I’ve personally used.
I love the twsbi!! My personal favorite is the mini because it’s built to incorporate the cap on the back without possibly activating the piston, and makes it a very even weight for writing.
I have been enjoying your take on fountin pens. Thanks for the videos. I couldn't help notice that there's too much spacing between the components of the nib unit assembly (the nib unit, the chrome ring and the section). It's as though they are not tightened down. I have both the Prussion Blue and Punch Pink version of the ALR as well as a standard diamond 580. Seeing your video, I just checked all 3 of mine and none of the sections spin. The chrome ring has notches and is keyed to be properly seated on the nib unit with absolutely no space between the chrome part and the black plastic rim of the nib unit. See if this is properly seated. There should be enough travel on the threads between the nib unit and the barrel so thaht the chrome ring and nib unit will sandwich the section with the barrel when tight so that the section does not spin. Hope this helps. Oh; and you can remove the plastic liner with a rubber band placed at the end of a standard wood pencil. Ink has gotten in behind the liner but it is only pressure fit so by slightly twisting the pencil/rubber band, it will pull free to be able to clean in there.
Thank you! I just tried the pencil with a thick rubber band suggestion and it worked! But it’s a little disappointing this is just a press-fit. Regarding the spinning section, that’s how mine was out of the box. I took apart the nib unit to make sure the chrome piece is fully seated. I made note of the ribs on the plastic sleeve lining up with the chrome slots at 9:37. For what I can tell the section doesn’t have threads and is just held in place by compression. If you screw the nib unit down finger tight it spins, but I have found if I use gripping material and really torque it down I can get the section to stay in place.
Excellent video. I own the same pen, and I am happy with its build-quality and performance. I have not yet disassembled the pen, but the procedure seems relatively straightforward. Liked & subscribed 👍
I have the 580 Iris. The performance of the pen is really good. It is also easy to clean and maintain the piston, section, nib and feed. Great overview and review.
Thank you for that video. It was packed with a lot of information 👍 I have the Iris (not inked up yet) and am already thinking "how I would clean it" 😅 Your video helps me a lot how to disassemble and what to look for.
Since the nib is larger, does the nib write differently than a comparable Eco nib? I like Ecos; I have six, but sometimes they are a bit scratchy, but I like pens that hold a lot of ink. I recently got an Opus 88 Jazz ( that's when I realized how scratchy the Eco was, by comparison), but it is slightly wide where I like to grip the pen, thus I'm looking for an alternative to the Opus 88 Jazz. I know you like the way yours writes, but what's it like compared to an eco nib? Also, are those feeds prone to breaking like Eco nibs are? If they are, it's not a big deal, TWSBI is really good about sending replacement parts, and they write even if you break fins, but it just looks bad. Thanks.
@@Richard-1776 I’ve found the feel of the nibs on paper and line widths pretty consistent from one TWSBI model to the next, and yes the feed’s fines are quite fragile. But I too have had good luck with TWSBI willing to send replacement parts quickly and inexpensively
@@santauxia I wouldn’t recommend gluing. But if you use some gripping material you can compress the aluminum more so it doesn’t freely rotate. This has worked for others, personally I’m a bit hesitant to as it risks cracking the acrylic.
@@shoresy6183 there are many great options, I fairly recently made a video ranking all of the modern fountain pens I’ve reviewed. Here’s a link… th-cam.com/video/nduFo2tgcwM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dSTJpW4GsS2rMlsz
I know you said the small hole after you screw off the grip section is kind of pointless, because a syringe barely fits. Does that mean you still prefer to clean it the oldfashioned way like a Twsbi Eco by turning the piston knob up and down?
@@radiofreealbemuth thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Also if you are going to disassemble it I would avoid taking the piston rod all the way out as it can be challenging to get lined up correctly again.
I like this model, but I’m going to wait until they get all these kinks worked out ….. the spinning, ferrule irritates me , the basically unclean-able body , the captive cap liner and the rotating piston when you post the cap is be infuriating so like a lot of people I’m going to wait till they get all these things fixed before I get a few for my collection
I hope they make some of these improvements too. I’d also consider also looking at their other models, as the 580 has been out for a quite a while without changes (besides the occasional new color).
I wanted to mention the grip section spinning occurs if you tighten the nib unit down by hand. If you use some gripping material to get extra torque, it is possible to compress the AL grip enough to prevent it from spinning.
do the other 580s have the same spinning grip?
@ for what I can tell all of the 580 grips are designed the same way (just differing in material and finish). So yes, if you don’t tighten them fully they could spin similar to what I show. However the ALR is the only one I’ve personally used.
I love the twsbi!! My personal favorite is the mini because it’s built to incorporate the cap on the back without possibly activating the piston, and makes it a very even weight for writing.
I prefer the mini too, have a review in the works!
@@ForTheLoveOfPens I’ll keep an eye out for it and subscribe. 👍
@@chrisblanc663 thank you, I appreciate it!
Most excellent breakdown of pen👏Thanks for the upload.
Thank you!
I have been enjoying your take on fountin pens. Thanks for the videos.
I couldn't help notice that there's too much spacing between the components of the nib unit assembly (the nib unit, the chrome ring and the section). It's as though they are not tightened down. I have both the Prussion Blue and Punch Pink version of the ALR as well as a standard diamond 580. Seeing your video, I just checked all 3 of mine and none of the sections spin. The chrome ring has notches and is keyed to be properly seated on the nib unit with absolutely no space between the chrome part and the black plastic rim of the nib unit. See if this is properly seated. There should be enough travel on the threads between the nib unit and the barrel so thaht the chrome ring and nib unit will sandwich the section with the barrel when tight so that the section does not spin. Hope this helps.
Oh; and you can remove the plastic liner with a rubber band placed at the end of a standard wood pencil. Ink has gotten in behind the liner but it is only pressure fit so by slightly twisting the pencil/rubber band, it will pull free to be able to clean in there.
Thank you! I just tried the pencil with a thick rubber band suggestion and it worked! But it’s a little disappointing this is just a press-fit.
Regarding the spinning section, that’s how mine was out of the box. I took apart the nib unit to make sure the chrome piece is fully seated. I made note of the ribs on the plastic sleeve lining up with the chrome slots at 9:37. For what I can tell the section doesn’t have threads and is just held in place by compression. If you screw the nib unit down finger tight it spins, but I have found if I use gripping material and really torque it down I can get the section to stay in place.
Excellent video. I own the same pen, and I am happy with its build-quality and performance. I have not yet disassembled the pen, but the procedure seems relatively straightforward. Liked & subscribed 👍
Thank you!
I have the 580 Iris. The performance of the pen is really good. It is also easy to clean and maintain the piston, section, nib and feed.
Great overview and review.
Thank you! The iris version is very striking
Thank you for that video. It was packed with a lot of information 👍 I have the Iris (not inked up yet) and am already thinking "how I would clean it" 😅 Your video helps me a lot how to disassemble and what to look for.
Thank you, glad you found it useful!
I would enjoy seeing you review a TWSBI Mini. Either the Diamond mini or the Vac mini!
You may be in luck soon 😊
Just got my TWSBI Diamond 580 ALR and I do not have the injection molding mark at the end. It is polished.
@@cubano100pct that’s great, is it brand new? Maybe TWSBI made an improvement
This is a fantastic video with nicely detailed information.
Thanks, John (new subscriber)
Gig Harbor, WA
Thank you!
Since the nib is larger, does the nib write differently than a comparable Eco nib? I like Ecos; I have six, but sometimes they are a bit scratchy, but I like pens that hold a lot of ink. I recently got an Opus 88 Jazz ( that's when I realized how scratchy the Eco was, by comparison), but it is slightly wide where I like to grip the pen, thus I'm looking for an alternative to the Opus 88 Jazz. I know you like the way yours writes, but what's it like compared to an eco nib? Also, are those feeds prone to breaking like Eco nibs are? If they are, it's not a big deal, TWSBI is really good about sending replacement parts, and they write even if you break fins, but it just looks bad. Thanks.
@@Richard-1776 I’ve found the feel of the nibs on paper and line widths pretty consistent from one TWSBI model to the next, and yes the feed’s fines are quite fragile. But I too have had good luck with TWSBI willing to send replacement parts quickly and inexpensively
Can the spinning of the section be fixed? Glued on maybe?
That will be an issue for me.
@@santauxia I wouldn’t recommend gluing. But if you use some gripping material you can compress the aluminum more so it doesn’t freely rotate. This has worked for others, personally I’m a bit hesitant to as it risks cracking the acrylic.
Very nice. Thank you
Thanks, Glad you found it useful!
I have the exact same pen. Silicon grease and piston wrench comes in the box under the pen tray.
It is great that they throw those in
I'm looking at purchasing my first fountain pen. Other than the TWSBI 580 ALR, what other pens would you recommend up to $200? Thanks!
@@shoresy6183 there are many great options, I fairly recently made a video ranking all of the modern fountain pens I’ve reviewed. Here’s a link…
th-cam.com/video/nduFo2tgcwM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dSTJpW4GsS2rMlsz
I know you said the small hole after you screw off the grip section is kind of pointless, because a syringe barely fits. Does that mean you still prefer to clean it the oldfashioned way like a Twsbi Eco by turning the piston knob up and down?
Personally I enjoy taking my pens apart. So for cleaning I tend to use the TWSBI wrench to remove the piston unit and rinse the barrel.
@@ForTheLoveOfPens ah, I see. Thank you for the comprehensive tutorial and review.
@@radiofreealbemuth thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Also if you are going to disassemble it I would avoid taking the piston rod all the way out as it can be challenging to get lined up correctly again.
I like this model, but I’m going to wait until they get all these kinks worked out ….. the spinning, ferrule irritates me , the basically unclean-able body , the captive cap liner and the rotating piston when you post the cap is be infuriating so like a lot of people I’m going to wait till they get all these things fixed before I get a few for my collection
I hope they make some of these improvements too. I’d also consider also looking at their other models, as the 580 has been out for a quite a while without changes (besides the occasional new color).