USS Robin: Pt1 - HMS Victorious joins the US Navy
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- In 1943, a British aircraft carrier was sent to the Pacific to plug a desperate gap in the United States Navy's carrier fleet. She was dubbed "USS Robin", and here are the stories of those who served aboard her. (Damn, uploaded the version without name tags! The same people speak in Part 2, so I'll be more careful when uploading that one)
For a detailed account of the USS Robin story, go to:
www.armouredcarriers.com/uss-...
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My Dad was a regular Royal Marine and served on the Victorious from the time she took part in the Bismarck pursuit right up to war end when they stayed in Australia after the Japanese surrender. He remembered vividly the Malta convoys and the Pacific battles. He was at his anti-aircraft station in the fore-end when the Kamikaze aircraft hit the aft end. He lost some good mates that day but the ship was never put out of action.
The British were with us in the battles of the Mariana's and a US carrier was hit by a kamakazie so our planes landed on a British carrier and the US pilots watched as the British carrier was hit by a kamakazie, but surprisedly the British sailors cleaned the mess up within an hour. All the pilots wrote reports about what they'd seen with the British metal decks and how much easier the metal decks were to clean up after a direct hit.
There was no British carriers at the Mariana which was in 1944, they only arrived for Operation iceberg (Okinawa)
@@johnlucas8479 the British were with us when we took the Philippines back
@@largeknockers7194 what your source
My sources that state no British Naval forces were with the US at Mariana or liberation of the Philippines are:
Battle of Leyte Gulf (by Willmott), Clash of Carriers Battle of Philippines Seas (by Tillman) Mariana clash and British Pacific Fleet (by Hobbs).
Nearest British Army was in Burma.
@@johnlucas8479 Well you need to recheck your sources then don;t you. The nearest British gorund froces was in the PNG thaetre. Get off your rs and go to the commonwealth cemetary at Port Moresby and look at their graves.
There was a raid carried out by a British led task group on Truk on the 14th - 15th June 1945.
You should get out more.
@@davesherry5384 I known about the attack by the British Pacific Fleet on Turk in June 1945 which is mentioned in British Pacific Fleet by Hobbs on their way from Sydney to Okinawa. As it was considered as a training strike at the time as Truk was no long a major Japanese Naval base. It was not a major Operation.
Ps about Truk Raid source Winton, John. Find, Fix and Strike!: The Fleet Air Arm at War, 1939-45 (World War Two at Sea) (p. 209)
"Their first baptism of fire was on Truk, the great Japanese stronghold in the Carolines. Implacable and Ruler (twenty-four Hellcats of 885), escorted by three cruisers and five destroyers sailed from Manus on 12 June, their main object being to give newly arrived aircrew some action experience although the training aspect was not stressed. As Evans said, ‘I never told my pilots it was a training training expedition; if you say that, you start losing a few people.’ The force arrived off Truk at dawn on the 14th. Avengers, Seafires and Fireflies bombed and strafed targets ashore. Avengers bombed by the light of flares that night and in the morning the cruisers carried out bombardments. Two aircraft were lost but the harm done to Truk was not great. The fact was that Truk had already been pounded so hard and often by the Fast Carrier Task Force that it was no longer a major objective."
As to PNG from my sources relating to New Guinea campaign no British Units were listed as being involved only Australians and US Troops. Yes, there some British Troop were involved, but they are attached to Australian Units. Unless you claim are Australian Troop as part of the British Army. Example Norman Mason (British) unit 2/12 Aust inf Bn. At the Commonwealth Cemetary there are only 16 British Graves of which 12 served in Australian Units, 1 Merchant Navy, 1 RAF, I Service Corp and 1 Civilian.
Can you provide any source that show British Units or Ships involved in the Marianas or Philippines campaign, excluding the Australian Navy. Also, a source that shows a British Army unit that was involved in PNG Theatre.
Maybe you should check your sources
I’ve never had a real interest in aircraft carriers but having the people there talking with the old film footage, just the whole presentation of the material is perfect. Thank you so much for posting these.
The Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Philip was at the battle of Okinawa on the British destroyer HMS Whelp. He saw a kamikaze hit a British aircraft carrier but didn’t go through the armoured steel deck. The crew pushed the Japanese plane off the deck and carried on fighting.
No wonder why USS Midway (Essex class CV-41) was decided to had a steel armour deck for other than against bomb attacks.
The armored flight decks proved to be a boon against Kamikaze's. An attack vector that was unknown and unplanned for when any of the Carriers were designed. Although their effectiveness does get overblown in Internet comment sections who seem to have this holy war regarding armored vs unarmored flight decks. The Kamikaze pilots were actually trained to go after the Island's (so they would kill officers) or the Elevators (so they would hit the hangers) In most of the more catastrophic hits against Carriers off Okinawa, such as the Franklin the Bunker Hill and the Enterprise they hit and penetrated the elevator.
@@andrewtaylor940 99.9% of Kamikaze's didn't even hit any ships, so I doubt any hit the elevators were by skill, luck maybe. On the other hand hitting the tower was much more likely. As for Armored vs Unarmored, both have advantages and disadvantages. Armored was much better in a situation where a carrier was likely to get hit, i.e. in the Med or in the later stages of the Pacific campaign by Kamikaze. But in a situation of ranged attack against other carriers and battleships it was the unarmored with their larger air wing that had the advantage.
@@TayebMC exactly
@@rafaeldavid32 USS Midway CV-41 was not an Essex class carrier. She was the lead ship of the Midway class aircraft carriers that also included USS Franklin D. Roosevelt and USS Coral Sea.
Fantastic to hear these old boys tell their stories, great work!
Dam right
Gotta love that a video about cooperation has a comment section full of people going at each other's throats.
Admiral King was the idiot who wouldn't listen to the British about how to fight U Boats or organise convoys in 1942 as the USA geared for war on its own back door and worse ignored the intelligence briefings coming in from Bletchley Park where of course the British had broken the Enigma machine and knew where all the U Boats were being sent. Worse STILL was he refused to have coastal lights extinguished at night. Which gave the German U Boats what they called their 'Happy Time' when hundreds of thousands of tons of shipping was sunk INSIDE US waters, some even in the Gulf of Mexico and mostly sunk by U Boats on the surface using the coast lights to show the ships' silhouettes.
To stop the carnage 24 trawlers modified in 1940 as Anti Submarine Warfare ships (they would find them and call in heavier attacks) were sent from guarding UK waters across the Atlantic. Many were sunk by U Boats including HMT Bedfordshire. There are British cemeteries on US Islands of Ocracoke and Hatteras and in Virginia on the mainland with the bodies of British sailors who needlessly died because of the stupidity of Admiral Hall.
The man should have been relieved just for that dereliction of duty alone. That he was still allowed to peddle his anti British bias against Victorious in 1943 was utterly shameful.
King was a "relic", Britain and its Commonwealth & the USA went on to save the world.
Admiral King was a brilliant and hard-driving man who helped win the war, especially against Japan. However, he hated the enemy: the Japanese, the US Army, the Royal Navy, and the Germans. (Maybe in that order!) It was hard to force him to overcome his prejudices...note, as Armoured Carrier tells us, FDR had to step on Admiral King.
@@redskindan78 Not sure how you describe a bigot with a closed mind in any way 'brilliant'. His refusal to trust the British (not just the RN) and learn new ways of war from those who had been fight ting for 3 years caused huge losses in shipping and materiel to the Allied cause and the unnecessary deaths of thousands of innocent sailors.
@@1chish Here is what Drachinifel has to say about the, yes, brilliant, and yes, vital, and "always angry" Admiral King: th-cam.com/video/Zm-GrI-BuLM/w-d-xo.html
What a wonderfully well put together film. I was spellbound listening to these old guys tell their tale so eloquently.
Enjoyed this very much. Dad flew B-29s from Saipan and 'envied' the US Navy, too. "They got to go home every 6 months and had ice cream."
In a slight defense of US carriers in 1942, Wasp was completely a victim of Submarine torpedoes, Lexington's fatal injuries, likewise, had little to do with two bomb hits but the hits by Kate Torpedo Bombers cracked her av gas lines, leading to the explosions that doomed her. Yorktown also handled her bomb damage but the Aerial and Submarine torpedoes doomed her. So, in 1942, the bigger danger to US carriers was torpedo attack. In this case, the smaller air groups on British Armoured Carriers would have been a problem. Though, of course, the British and Americans both agreed that Armoured carriers big enough to carry bigger air groups was the way ahead.
Many of them burned remarkably well though.
@@johnhanson5943 Yes they did. They also did what they had to do. To be honest, in 1942, US carriers would have been GUTTED by the Stuka attacks that Illustrious endured. But by the same token, I would not want to take three British carriers to Midway.
My dad was a sergeant on the Victorious in WW2 (Denis Guilfoyle). In later years he painted scenes of aircraft carriers battling mountainous seas. He had a lasting fear of the sea and after the war he never set foot on a ship again.
Respect to your dad, i bet he had seen some sights, You must be so proud, I am proud of my Grandfather who was a RSM in the welsh guards during the war, he could never talk about his war service save a complete black list on anything made in Japan.
Yes, I'm a proud Welsh man but an ever prouder Brit!
My Dad served on Victorious from 1942 to 1946. Problem is that like many of his kind, he did not talk about it much. I do know his hatred of the Japanese stayed with him until his death in 1987. The terrifying stories were never told.
My father, USN 1/42-10/44, on the rare occasions he drank he made the war seem like the most fun anyone could have. Just before he died he told me the things he had seen that caused him to have PTSD. I wish he had not told me.
Love the tool box story.
…I’ve got one in my garage!
Jamie: I thoroughly enjoyed both videos on USS Robin. Your clip selections were excellent, showing interesting segments of RN and USN life. The North Atlantic footage was a fine answer to the question, "Why the RN did not develop Deck Park operations for CVs, as the USN did, in the Pacific, in the prewar period.
I'm glad you liked them. Thanks.
US had ice cream storage or fridge in their carriers and installed one in the Victorious during their service with USN
The USN had considered designing an armored flight deck into the Essex-class carriers,. but concluded that it would require a much larger carrier to have space for enough aircraft. The Midway-class carriers are roughly what would have been needed. (I watched this a year or two ago, Armoured Carrier, but the pair of episodes about "USS Robin" was just so good that I had to watch again.)
Excellent documentary…
I enjoy listening to this so much
The Norfolk (Virgina) naval shipyard updated the vessel’s radar, installed a newer combat information center, added the U.S. Navy’s talk between ships (TBS) radio and retrofitted a homing system that allowed airplanes to find the carrier at night and in low visibility.
Victorious’ anti-air defenses were also improved with 19 20-mm gun positions. Bomb damage to the bow was repaired and the aft part of the flight deck, known as the round down, was extended. The shipyard also installed the fire suppression system and a station above the hangar deck so the hangar deck officer could see its entire length.
Since the Victorious left Scotland at the beginning of the winter, its crew did not have clothing for warmer climates. The U.S. Navy provided, to use the British expression, “tropical kit” for all the officers and men.
The plan was to equip Victorious’ airwing with three squadrons of fighters 882, 896 and 898, each with 12 new Grumman Martlets/Wildcats. While in Norfolk, 832 squadron transitioned to their 16 new Grumman Avengers that replaced its Albacore biplanes.
MHN HMS Victorious - Meet the British Aircraft Carrier That Joined the U.S. Navy in WW2 page
Is that Military History News? What Edition? I'd love to get it!
I want to add the sources for parts of that refit you detailed to my page:
www.armouredcarriers.com/uss-robin-hms-victorious
I've found reference to the USN spec radios (with USN operators). I've not found any reference to the radar room or homing system work (the RN had been using one successfully for years - Battle of Taranto, for example. But that doesn't mean it was changed to USN spec to be compatible).
And the hangar control room is also new to me.
Thanks for the tip!
@@ArmouredCarriers No trouble. Military History Now is on line and TH-cam does not allow me to include links anymore. Search:
MHN HMS Victorious - Meet the British Aircraft Carrier That Joined the U.S. Navy in WW2
@@nickdanger3802 Thanks. Found it.
@@ArmouredCarriers No trouble.
You make it sound like all the US carriers were sunk except the USS Saratoga. The USS Enterprise was undergoing extensive repair and refit at the Bremerton Naval shipyard during that time if I guess it correctly.
Even if they not all at the bottom, but as far as operationally concerned, they didn't have any fully operational carrier left. Enterprise and Saratoga were heavily damage, although they did patched up Enterprise enough to allowed partial operation. Lexington, Yorktown, Horner, and Wasp were at the bottom. Ranger was totally unsuited for Pacific ops
They mention Tommy Thompson being the batsman on board the carrier. I wonder if its the same Tommy Thompson who played in the NFL with the Philadelphia Eagles. He did server in WW2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Thompson_(quarterback)
Ace! Thanks.🇬🇧
Another video from point of view I've never seen before. Thank you, thumbs up. The only thing I didn't like was that my like made the likes 666. I actually had to remind myself that it's only a number, kind of like how 13 comes after 12.
My fav new video series thx!
My Uncle was a Oerlikon gunner on Victorious in the Pacific, when it was hit by Kamikaze off Okinawa, Dad told me my Uncle his Brother came home with a terrible stammer, it lasted quite some time then one day just went away, probably the stress of battle.
There is a video about that attack on my channel. She was hit twice within an hour or so.
@@ArmouredCarriers I will try and check it out when i have time, thank's
Imagine getting Admiral King to accept an RN CV!
The American carriers may have had refrigeration and ice cream machines but.....they didn't have armored decks and walls.
The US had better carrier aircraft.
USN had decided that it would fight the next war against Japan and all over the Pacific. Therefore, they designed carriers with enough hangar space to defend against Japan's island-based air groups, and to fight the IJN in carrier-to-carrier battles. In the case of Illustrious, a US carrier would have had a stronger combat air patrol than Illustrious had had, with single-seat fighters designed to a single purpose. The USN took careful notes on how Illustrious survived all the damage.
Further, the Yorktown and Essex class carriers survived bomb-hits; they sank from torpedo-hits. An armored flight-deck and hangar-deck would not have helped.
All news to me very good vid
Admiral King didn't like anybody, British or American. He was a thoroughly disagreeable individual, hampering allied cooperation, and not willing to learn from the British in the battle Of The Atlantic, especially in the practice of convoying merchant shipping against the U-boat menace. Excessive losses in shipping ensued. To say that the Royal Navy was incompetent is to do a great disservice to a distinguished navy. King was an Anglophobe in particular and a xenophobe in general. Utterly poisonous personality.
Roger that should never have been in a command position. Would have been doing more for the war wffort by flipping burgers in the kitchen
Macurtha was like that with Australians
King was an overall unforgiving and ascerbic personality. He was also an astonishingly competent war leader in many respects, with a sharp eye for logistics and reasonably skilled at putting the right people in the right place. But he was a brutal man to work with. . He was the only Admiral who saw the Pacific War coming, and predicted how it would happen. (he himself bombed Pearl Harbor twice in the 1930's in surprise attacks using the Saratoga and Lexington.) And yeah he had a hard on for the British Admiralty. His hatred of all things British is a bit overblown, he actually quite liked most of the British officers he dealt with on a regular basis. His dislike of the British Admiralty stemmed from some undocumented bad experiences while serving as an American adjunct aboard British ships in WW1. His greatest failing was he initially dismissed some good anti-submarine lessons from the British at the onset of US involvement in WW2. Mostly convoy lessons. Something that would be squared away largely by spring. But much of what he gets tarred with for refusing, such as Blacking Out US East Coast Cities, was, as he explained to his British counterparts, not within his purview to order. King's greatest accomplishment was setting Nimitz to his task in the Pacific, and then letting him do the job he put him there to do, and acted to shield him from any and all Washington second guessing.
@@brianshook3289 King was poorly treated by his commonwealth partners during WWI. This is probably his revenge
Blasphemous, King is Anglophobic but he NEVER hated his American comrades. He particulary fond of the state of war in which the Americans, Australians and NZ does all the heavy lifting in the Pacific War. He was not particulary content with British Fleet deployment in the pacific late in the war when IJN almost lost all of their carriers and capital ship, the BPF deployment was just a reach and a mere political stunt. Also King doesn't like to be controlled by a world leader such as FDR or Churchill and how they tell him how King should run his war
RN had its share of getting massacred by the U Boats during the first happy time if I remember that correctly.
Well, Adm King Was shot in the pant leg by Mountbatten as he was trying to demonstrate the survivability of a concrete hulled aircraft carrier model. Can't make that one up.
I am a fan of hmd victorious thanks
17.50 infestation of crab lice. I knew an R.N. veteran who served in the destroyer at the end of the Pacific campaign and he said their ship was infested with bugs even though the mess decks were spotlessly clean.
Weevils and Cockroaches Mainly ,HMS Victorious and HMS Centaur were infested we were always were having to spray and fumigate After we would sweep them up Dustbins full Last commission 66-67
@@leehotspur9679 Sounds bloody awful, I bet they didn't show that duty in the recruiting ads!
Didn't you upload this one in the past few days along with PT2 ????
Yes: i have replaced the earlier version with this one to improve the audio balance. I'd uploaded three before I realised I hadn't turned off the subscription notification option.
@@ArmouredCarriers Just making sure I had not missed something ... thanks
Churchill should have said “Certainly. 100 destroyers, 2000 tanks, 10,000,000 bullets. And more”.
How about 4,000 carrier aircraft, 38 escort carriers, 17,000 M4 tanks and 78 Captain class frigates?
@@nickdanger3802 .. All bought and paid for. Which took until the 1990’s to pay off.
They were sold at extortionate prices.
see Hansard ANGLO-AMERICAN FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS HL Deb 17 December 1945
below 678
"First and foremost, they note that they have written off the main body of Lend-Lease, amounting to something of the order of £4,000,000,000 to £5,000,000,000 net"
16 to 20 Billion 1945 USD.
@@nickdanger3802 .. Not interested. You are just a troll.
Like the HOOOD
Video content rarely seen before, yet folks concerned about British accents on a British ship, imagine that, & oh the horror no captions? The audio is ok, for a film from the 40s.
To be fair, I am replacing older uploads because the audio levels were fairly ... erratic.
@@ArmouredCarriers I ain’t British but luv the accent.
Audio needs fixing.
Buy an Apple, sounds great for age on my device. Or use an EQ to remove the slight SSS
Kamikaze hits US Carrier: Out of service for weeks to months.
Kamikaze hits UK Carrier: Sweep debris off the deck and prepare the next flight.
Air group size for Brit carriers 45! Air Group size US carriers; 90! The wooden deck was easy to fix. BTW the hanger deck on US carriers was armored, not as thick as the Brit carriers but still armored.
I understand, but both comments are perhaps overstated. Regardless, the tradeoff was in striking power/size of the air group. RN Carriers were smaller had shorter legs, and judging by the video, had some issues in heavy seas. They were not equipped for the tropics and the longer distances of the Pacific ocean. The crews were continually subjected to very high heat throughout the ship. US carriers had coolers. The Japanese, by creating a manned guided missile had subjected carriers to something that was unexpected, and ultimately proven to be unstoppable. Even though it was crude, it was more than just effective, it was a paradigm shift in carrier warfare. So there is that element as well. The decision to NOT armor US flight decks was a conscious one. Presumably, using timber, the ability to conduct repairs at sea was a consideration, as was the inability to repair at sea an armoured flight deck with serious damage. Both worked, the US had the advantage of being able to produce a lot of carriers, in CV, CVL and CVE. The carriers that were really vulnerable were the CVEs.
Torpedo hits US Carrier: Out of service for weeks to few months.
Torpedo hits British Carrier: Out of service for months even years.
Power of US repair crew at dry dock was much better. THe only thing that took them so long is the duration of travel from far waters of Pacific to Naval dry dock in both US East and West Coast and back to service again. It will take even longer for a heavily damaged British carrier/warship to repair in UK, long travel time contribute the most
@@markbauer1096 Using woods is probably the quickest way in producing large numbers of carriers in short period of time and also made the carrier lighter than with Armored flight deck. It's also easier if the flight deck is holed by an AP bomb then it would only take a week max to patch the hole and maintain air operation again when equipped with wooden deck.
@@ramal5708 Found the American. 😂
Needs captions. Audio and accents are hard to hear
It has captions.
TH-cam does them automatically, but sometimes it takes a bit before they're up and running.
Rubbish: I had no problems - I take it you are not British.
@@geoffboxell9301 I’m not British
@@Dog.soldier1950 Then your problem is understandable. :->
And they say the British are snobs, I guess the US navy are too
Where was the Enterprise during these events?
Deep repair. The rushed patch up job that got her to Midway couldn’t hold up much longer. (Edit: I stand corrected below.)
@@ArmouredCarriers that was the Yorktown
Enterprise was battered at the Battle of Santa Cruz in late '42. She was leaking oil, shipping water, and one of her 3 elevators was inoperable and was unable to operate a full air wing. She was a mess. Saratoga had only just returned from her second torpedoing when Victorious assumed the code word Robin.
@@ArmouredCarriers That was Yorktown, she was sunk in the aftermath of Midway battle, even though she was rushed to be in the Battle itself, but she contributed in the battle.
During that said time it was Enterprise vs Japan, period. This was after Battle of Santa Cruz
When her sister Hornet was sunk she was the only carrier that still afloat in south pacific, that long repair time was mostly because of travel time to and back from dry docks. The Big E repair only last like 7-12 days in port max.
We probley lent it for free anyway
Yes You Got New Anti Aircraft fund and Better AirCraft
"Only had the Saratoga left"
What about the Enterprise
Note) after a little research I found out that the Saratoga was alone for about a month the Enterprise returned to duty in December before Great Britain agreed to loan us the HMS Victorious and by the time the Victorious was refitted and got out to the south pacific the Essex class carriers were starting to arrive
So in all actually we didn't really need it
If it wasn't for the Enterprise there is a good chance we would have lost the war, and that is why the Enterprise is the greatest of all time
“We didn’t really need it”
Ask our veterans, I am quite sure they’d disagree quite strongly. Having Brits fighting side by side with US boosted morale if nothing else. Also how about a little respect for the men who came out to help us. I’m sorry but your statement reads quite like you’re not grateful at all for any help received... No offense but you could have a little more grace when being patriotic.
@@Morris2182 not at all dont forget the British were losing there ass to Germany and were beginning us for help so was Russia so we did help out what than
In war you help your allies
Im just saying take a good look at the time line month by month day by day yes Britain agreed to help but by the time it got there our industry's had switched over to war time and we were just starting to see the effects
You are only talking about a few weeks between the Victorious arrived in the pacific the Essex was in her way
You sir sound like a Brit that is ungrateful for our help
Or judging by your name maybe you are Stalin's boy
@@snakeplissken2018 Err: Britain stopped losing their wild donkeys (I think you mean "arse" or, if Scottish "erse") to the Germans with the victory of The Battle of Britain.
American (and to a large extent Canadian) industry was able to help Britain in its, at the time, sole efforts to prevent the world falling to fascism until the USA was forced into WWII by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour and Germany declaring war on them, prior to which it was also supply Nazi Germany with material too. You should, of course, also remember that American, and Canadian factories were not being bombed at the time.
Kiwi this end, by the way.
@@snakeplissken2018 what an idiotic and jingoistic comment. You aren’t fit to lace the boots of any of these old boys who actually faced war...
We did need it. The first 2 Essex's were launched and commissioned In Jan/Feb 1943. They didn't arrive at Pearl ready for combat until June. The use of Victorious paired with Saratoga gave some breathing space that allowed them to repair the rather hard worn and patched together Enterprise properly, and allowed her enough time to get fully in service with new Radar, Hellcats and other systems. She was back in the water by December, she like the Essex's wasn't quite ready for service. Thankfully at the same time the "Robin" and Saratoga were prowling the South Pacific the Japanese were taking the chance to repair their similarly battered and barely holding together Fleet Carriers, so there was something of a major Naval pause, outside of Convoy and Submarine action. Overall it mostly turned out to be an interesting learning experience for both Navy's (not without its abrasiveness). But at least the Brits got an Ice Cream maker out of it. So Win!
Story about British carriers in RN service had more view than a video about British carrier being loaned to the USN. I guess the hate for the Americans is real
Friendly reminder: when they say "We only have Saratoga" How about the USS "Enterprise vs Japan" CV-6? She was the only active USN carrier that still afloat in the area. Saratoga was still transporting aircraft to bases, the Big E is just being forgotten. Probably because she was the most decorated carrier in WWII
This was a republish to balance audio issues (all those you see with the little red arc icon in the top corner have been republished for that purpose). So you can add 42k to the above. th-cam.com/video/DnHiLFFazo8/w-d-xo.html
Genital Crabs at sea, how very fitting..........
Huricane
The U.S. Navy carrier has a wooden fight deck which could be repaired be ships carpenter at sea relatively quickly, but the hanger deck was amored as opposed to the Royal Navy have an armored fight deck if and went damaged have to go into port for repairs.
No: Yank AC were out of action or lost when hit due to the wooden deck - UK carriers were back in action in anything from 30 min to 2 hours. Damage to the deck of HMS Formidable was repaired using concrete and that was the one that took 2 hrs to get back in action, the other three carriers hit by kamikaze were back in action in 30 min. Yank carriers that did survive were 6 months + in harbour to be repaired - do do some research before your spout crap.
@@geoffboxell9301 Your talking about the May 4, 1945 attack on the Limy AC Formidable. First off the Mitsubishi A6M Zero fighter attacked at 11:31, The fires on the flight deck and in the hangar were extinguished by 11:55, and The dent in the flight deck was filled by wood and concrete and covered by thin steel plates tack-welded to the deck so that she was able to operate aircraft by 17:00, The time laps between 11:55 to 17:00 is 5:45 hours not the 30 minutes to 2 hour you false claim. The damage to the boiler room and its steam pipes was repaired so that the centre boilers could be reconnected to the engines at 02:00 the next day, that means no steam no power your dead in the water. the bomb damage in the flight deck, making a around 24 feet (7.3 m) by 20 feet (6.1 m) and 2 feet (0.61 m) deep, a dent as you call it with a 2 square feet (0.19 m2) hole in the center
On May 9 1945, another kamikaze pilot, Yoshinari Kurose, crashed his plane into the Limy AC Formidable's flight deck and deck park at 17:05. The impact did little damage to the ship, but caused an explosion and large fire that destroyed 18 of her aircraft. Vice-Admiral Bernard Rawlings, decided to immediately withdraw to give the Limy AC Victorious and Formidable more time to make repairs and to replenish their depleted air groups.
On the morning of 18 May, armourers were loading ammunition into aircraft when a Corsair's guns were accidentally fired into an Avenger, which caught fire.[60] The overhead fire sprinklers were immediately turned on, but the fire could not be extinguished for nearly an hour, not least because the electric motors driving the steel fire curtains had been damaged in the first kamikaze attack and could only be repaired by a dockyard.
On 26 May 1941 a formation of Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive bombers hit the Limy AC Formidable with two 1,000-kilogram (2,200 lb) bombs killed 12 men and wounded 10; one bomb passed completely through the outer part of the starboard forward flight deck and detonated before it hit the water, riddling the side of the hull with holes. A near miss also blew a large hole in the ship's starboard side underwater. Formidable arrived at Alexandria the following day and disembarked her air group. She received emergency repairs before departing on 24 July for permanent repairs at Norfolk Naval Shipyard in the United States, She arrived on 25 August, and the repairs were completed in early December.
SO MUCH FOR THE MYTH OF AMORED FLIGHT DECKS NOT HAVING TO GO TO HARBOR FOR REPAIR.
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@@alejandrocantu4652 Eye witnesses say they were landing back on deck "within two hours". Rawlings decided to detach Formidable early to give her extra time for repairs in Sydney and she was ordered to depart on 22 May.[62]
Operations off the Japanese coast
The ship arrived on 31 May and was taken into the Captain Cook Dock at the Garden Island Dockyard for repairs, with the dock's labour force being augmented with workers from the Cockatoo Island Dockyard. Two of the three armour plates damaged on 4 May were repaired, but the third had to be replaced by two 1.5-inch high-quality steel plates as there were not any armour plates of the required thickness available in Australia. Repairs were also made to the ship's machinery, boilers and electrical systems. The island was enlarged with an admiral's staff cabin and a radar workshop. Rear-Admiral Sir Philip Vian, commander of the 1st ACS, transferred his flag to Formidable when her repairs were complete.[63]
Together with Victorious and King George V, Formidable departed Sydney on 28 June, bound for the BPF's advance base at Manus Island, in the Admiralty Islands. Her air group now consisted of 36 Corsairs, 12 Avengers and 6 Grumman F6F Hellcats of 1844 Squadron. Two of the latter aircraft were photoreconnaissance versions.[64] No. 6 Naval Fighter Wing was absorbed into the 2nd Carrier Air Group that controlled all of the aircraft on the carrier.[65] The ships arrived on 4 July, refuelled, and departed two days later to join the American Third Fleet, already operating off the Japanese Home Islands. The BPF rendezvoused with the Americans on 16 July and commenced operations the next morning. Formidable flew off 28 Corsairs bound north of Tokyo on 17 July, but some of them were unable to locate their targets because of bad weather. Twenty-four Corsairs attacked targets near Tokyo the next day, before more bad weather halted flying operations until 24-25 July, when the BPF's aircraft attacked targets near Osaka and the Inland Sea, crippling the escort carrier Kaiyo.[66] After replenishing, airstrikes resumed on 28 and 30 July, sinking the escort Okinawa near Maizuru. A combination of bad weather, refuelling requirements and the atomic bombing of Hiroshima delayed the resumption of air operations until 9 August.[67]
During the morning, Formidable flew off a fighter sweep of a dozen Corsairs followed an hour later by Avengers that attacked Matsushima Air Field. A second fighter sweep, led by Lieutenant Robert Hampton Gray, RCNVR, senior pilot of 1841 Squadron, was diverted to attack Japanese warships located in Onagawa Wan, Miyagi Prefecture, with his eight Corsairs. Gray spotted two escort ships and led his aircraft into the attack. Intense flak set his engine on fire, but Gray continued his attack, skip bombing a 500-pound (230 kg) bomb into the Etorofu-class escort Amakusa. The ship sank within five minutes with the loss of 157 lives. Gray's aircraft rolled inverted shortly after releasing the bomb and crashed into the sea; he did not survive. Gray was later posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross (VC).[68]
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