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Will can you test a marine amp. Boss MR1000. I know its not the mother of all amps or brother, I just need a little bump and there is literally no vids on the internet concerning this amp. Just some guy unboxing one.
Hey so theres these diablo bullet tweeters DB-550 and they are rates at “1000 watts and i find it hard to believe and just want to know because iv been running them and they sound great nice and loud but wanna get an amp so can you do a review???
Thank you BIG D for putting this on, i have seen these on ebay for a few years now, one person was selling one under Alpine name and price saying "very rare" i did message the person to let them know that it was a fake alpine, unfortunately that did not go down very good with the seller telling me to mind my own business ,lol
Awesome, this was every new driver dream. I installed like 30 of them usually with a ported 12 pioneer subwoofer. The main purpose was to make as much noise as possible so on the remaining 2 channel usually there were 6x9 pioneer speakers. Thanks for that memory 🙏
The oddest thing you’ve ever seen is called panelizing and is how they get two boards out of one. It’s a super common thing to do in consumer electronics.
Any chance you keep a spreadsheet or something with the amps you have tested. prices, and results? I find myself trying to remember certain budget amps but you put out so many videos its hard to go back through them for the ones i want. Thanks for keepin the old school stereo stuff alive, the nostalgia is real lol
We have these in the Philippines on the Lazada website which is similar to your Amazon. If you read the comments on description, the sellers will even let you know the wattage is low😂
Fun fact : negligent reports suggest, running two speaker leads per speaker doubles the rms of the fuse and running a jumper wire from the ground terminal to the negative output terminal when bridged has an inverse square law effect for the subs allowing you to get WELL BEYOND 3800 WHAT'S of pure electrical psi . 😎
I love your the K on the brand is the new kicker logo and the V12 along with other details are in the old Alpine V12 font! 🤣 When you can't make it, just FAKE IT! lmfao
Another funny vid!!! In a future video can you expand on the IHF 202 standard and explain wat you mean when you say mimicking the tone as opposed to just generating the tone. Thanks.
Agreed. The Amp Dyno’s dynamic test with the 1kHz tone, 14.4V and 4 ohms meets standard for the IHF-202 spec for dynamic power. There are Tech specs for the burst tone as well.
My goodness. This might be the biggest piece of junk you have tested yet! Thanks for taking one for the team so we can all stay really far away from this one. I think I could read a single good book on amplifier design and build a better amp than this. You usually have great ideas for videos and good finds of unknown amplifiers to test, but I'd like to see you get back up into the 4k-8k range one more time for fun, and because a lot of us run big subs and lots of power these days with what is available these days. I would love to see you do the Taramps Smart 5. I'd also love to see the bigger Orion HCCA Amplifiers. Anything in the 5k to 8k range would be nice, just to see if they are still pumping out the kinds of extremely over rated power they used to to like the DSPLX 3k did. I know these kinds of videos are really expensive to make, but I'm sure a lot of us are curious if there are any hidden high power gems out there. Either way, always love the content. Hope things are going good for you.
@@wal I personally enjoy seeing the smaller SQ-Type Amplifiers. They don't make a ton of power obviously; but those are the types of amps I might consider running, if I wasn't running OS CLASS A/B Amps. As far as what to do with this amp? You should probably do a giveaway with the following rules. Entrants must upload a video describing "The Most Clever Way They Would Destroy The Amp." 😆 I personally would use it for target practice, & fill it full of various-sized holes. 🎯 😉 👉🏼 💨 💨 💨 💨 💨
Thank you Big D. I think we've all seen these, known the numbers were a flat out lie but had that thought..."it has to make some noise, though...could be a fun little setup for ____." I know I've thought about it for a little garage stereo project or something.
I have 4 car amplifiers and I have the same model , it's been working fine since 2008 and only had to change gain potentiometers once . It's powering a dual voice coil pioneer 12 inch subwoofer , both coils are bridged
To make things even better a lot of your amps do have a low pass and/or high pass crossover you should hook it to an oscilloscope to see if at X hertz if the crossover actually works as stated too
So I bought into something similar to this a few times. A couple of years ago I got real big into car audio again and when I checked eBay I was like DAMN! A Lanzar 3000 watt amp for $85.99? Bought it, got it delivered, and as soon as I opened the box I said nahhh...I gave it away. Along with the Pyle 12s that I bought that didn't sound terrible on the PPI "1200 watt" amp that I bought. Right now that PPI "1200 watt" amp is running an 8" Skar IX8 D4 in my Acura TL at full power and it barely pushes it. I wasn't looking for killer bass when I bought the Pyle 12s, but I built a custom vented enclosure for them and they sounded decent with low power, but I soon caught on and dropped some real money on two Sundown SA12-D2s and a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RND5000.1 and they sounded SO much better with 0/1 OFC wire and a big three upgrade. Then I bought two more Sundown SA12-D2s and I also got an Orion HCCA SPLX 3k watt amp and now it's too much...
Kinda sounds like there's excessive DC on the speaker terminals , probably a load of crossover distortion from crappy/no bias too. What a landfill warrior.
Great job man, I'm thankful you didn't test at 1ohm& catch your garage on fire!!!!!🔥🔥🔥keep'em coming( great Halloween amp to scare someone with the Trinity of distortion;-))
Big G, the girl who fell in the popcorn video does those kind of videos all of the time. Her friend was filming and it was done on purpose. Her name is Paige Ginn.
They sell these in my country and have been for years for cheap.. trying to copy the alpine v12 amps, I had the privilege of owning a true Alpine V12 600w amp.. cleanest amp I've ever owned.. these cheap amps I wouldn't even give these to my enemies.. well, maybe my ex 😂😂
Back in the day. I always thought my V12 I was running for a while was just a `OK’ amp like a budget $35 amp (I paid $35) but fast forward to recent years. I know now that , the V12 I had was actually a badass amp. Lol but 🤷♂️ young and dumb what can I say your honor
My 400 Watt Alpine amp hits just as well on the same subwoofer as the Walmart power acoustic even tho that amp dyno'd like 650 watt or whatever it was. Good amps
I think an accurate reading of the dampening factor and slew rate would really tell the story here on what's happening with the tweets. Driver control isn't just for woofers. 50% THD don't help either though.
Anyone remember Cuspid? In the early 2000s (maybe 2004) eBay was flooded with 1600W Cupid Car Audio amps that had like a 25A fuse and were complete garbage. With the tweeter distortion my guess is those crappy caps can’t even filter the power source noise well, this would likely hum or whine inside a car.
Please do a review and test of the Rockville Krypton series amps please! I bought the M3 1000W model and have had it for about 3 months and I love it. Excellent amp and features for the price.
Those mrv-1507 amps popped like fire crackers! Great amp, but can’t take abuse of running subs. 90% of them I sold came back for warranty. Would switch them to MTX, kicker, or RF and everything would be good to go! MTX 81000D Rockford BD1000 & 1500 & 800.2 Then the big ass kickers. I can’t recall the numbers right now.
This type of car amp can be found all over south east asia, can get them from 40-90$. I bought one 11 years ago for 45$ it had 2 25 amp fuses (also slightly had bigger guts than this one) and it said "3600 Watts" on top but actually it only puts out 600+ watts @ 4 Ohms fully bridged and I found that actually decent. but it gets hot, like real HOT, you can burn your hand on it, literally lmao, without any fans it would surely pop, rip efficiency. great video though!
That break-out piece of the board is a common practice. They can lay the entire circuit board out for production, snap the small boards out for fitting in a different location then remarry the boards after wave soldering.
The alpine V12 Is Real those knock offs is sad big d my brothers and friends had the v12 alpine in the 90's they were true nice sounding power and can push a sub 👍
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well...I guess people can be bought. I would rep D4S as much as I dislike JP if the PRICE was right. LOL see what I did there?
Will can you test a marine amp. Boss MR1000. I know its not the mother of all amps or brother, I just need a little bump and there is literally no vids on the internet concerning this amp. Just some guy unboxing one.
Hey so theres these diablo bullet tweeters DB-550 and they are rates at “1000 watts and i find it hard to believe and just want to know because iv been running them and they sound great nice and loud but wanna get an amp so can you do a review???
Hey big D, what's a good 12 inch sub that pushes good bass and has a decent price?
I need 12 subs, and I'm currently limited to 3k watts so they need to be able to sound good with about 250 watts rms each.
Yeeesss I've been looking for an amp that passes distortion. My system has been running clean for way too long. 👍good find Big-D
In my Tim Allen voice more distortion......👍🤣
So retro analog scratchy ... time to get out the 8 tracks and records!
Sounds like youre in need of a kraco or sparkomatic eq/booster....who needs McIntosh and linear power hoity toity audiophile notoriety huh?lmao
Run 12 6X9's at .25 ohms. Imagine the BASS!
@@scottsmith4469 That's my name Big D 🤣
From now on don't call it a "Dyno" anymore, call it a "lie detector".
snake oil detector
I have that same V-12 (the Alpine one) and it is still bumping... never a fault.
Thanks as always, and cheers from Japan.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
The fact they can afford to sell that aluminum chassis for 70 dollars in a cardboard box is impressive
@Jack Torrance Cheers??? WTF man. Did they send you a glass of eggnog and a shot of rum?
LOL!!!
Thank you BIG D for putting this on, i have seen these on ebay for a few years now, one person was selling one under Alpine name and price saying "very rare" i did message the person to let them know that it was a fake alpine, unfortunately that did not go down very good with the seller telling me to mind my own business ,lol
Awesome, this was every new driver dream. I installed like 30 of them usually with a ported 12 pioneer subwoofer.
The main purpose was to make as much noise as possible so on the remaining 2 channel usually there were 6x9 pioneer speakers.
Thanks for that memory 🙏
As a broke kid. Is it worth it? I repeat. Broke ass kid who wants better sound
The oddest thing you’ve ever seen is called panelizing and is how they get two boards out of one. It’s a super common thing to do in consumer electronics.
Talk about taking one for the team!! Thanks D, now erryone knows to stear clear!!!
👌😬👍
Any chance you keep a spreadsheet or something with the amps you have tested. prices, and results? I find myself trying to remember certain budget amps but you put out so many videos its hard to go back through them for the ones i want. Thanks for keepin the old school stereo stuff alive, the nostalgia is real lol
A simple Excel spreadsheet or database file would be easy and nice for us Big D
@@DhCustomC seconding this. Google spreadsheet
2021 HAS BEEN LEADING UP TO THIS ! Great content as always Sir !
🤣
Love it Big D !!! Thanks for keeping us straight !!!
Not even 5 mins in this vid NO PROTECTION now that just made my day. :D LOLOLOL GAME OVER
😬👍
Lol freaking love these episodes you do of cheap amps. Always very funny! lol
Real OG's watch until the end.
Yessir!
We have these in the Philippines on the Lazada website which is similar to your Amazon. If you read the comments on description, the sellers will even let you know the wattage is low😂
Big D Wiz love what u do telling us stay away from these cheap amps. love your content.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Fun fact : negligent reports suggest, running two speaker leads per speaker doubles the rms of the fuse and running a jumper wire from the ground terminal to the negative output terminal when bridged has an inverse square law effect for the subs allowing you to get WELL BEYOND 3800 WHAT'S of pure electrical psi . 😎
This is a WUDI amp! But they sell them unbranded in bulk for about 12 bucks
"NO Protection" means your getting screwed and going to catch something.
Exactly!
3800 watts... they have lost a DOT when aluminum case was printed 😂😂😂
Appreciate you man. I thought about trying this amp out. Thanks to you I’m not gonna waste my mullah!!
Thank you Big D !!! I keep seeing that amp show up on my ebay !!! Now I know not to waste my time, even for my bucket car.
I wanted to see at the end you hit it with .5 ohm and see if starts a fire .
Since it has No protection, yeah, lol
I love your the K on the brand is the new kicker logo and the V12 along with other details are in the old Alpine V12 font! 🤣
When you can't make it, just FAKE IT! lmfao
Thanks for testing this makes me appreciate the Alpine V12s I have
I had one of those Alpine 1507 and 2 R10s. What a kick ass combo back in the day!
I could hear the distortion through TH-cam on my phone through its speaker.
I had 3 Alpine V12 amps and this is a real insult to their awesomeness.
Another funny vid!!! In a future video can you expand on the IHF 202 standard and explain wat you mean when you say mimicking the tone as opposed to just generating the tone. Thanks.
Agreed. The Amp Dyno’s dynamic test with the 1kHz tone, 14.4V and 4 ohms meets standard for the IHF-202 spec for dynamic power. There are Tech specs for the burst tone as well.
My goodness. This might be the biggest piece of junk you have tested yet! Thanks for taking one for the team so we can all stay really far away from this one. I think I could read a single good book on amplifier design and build a better amp than this. You usually have great ideas for videos and good finds of unknown amplifiers to test, but I'd like to see you get back up into the 4k-8k range one more time for fun, and because a lot of us run big subs and lots of power these days with what is available these days. I would love to see you do the Taramps Smart 5. I'd also love to see the bigger Orion HCCA Amplifiers. Anything in the 5k to 8k range would be nice, just to see if they are still pumping out the kinds of extremely over rated power they used to to like the DSPLX 3k did. I know these kinds of videos are really expensive to make, but I'm sure a lot of us are curious if there are any hidden high power gems out there. Either way, always love the content. Hope things are going good for you.
I’m surprised Taramps hasn’t sent me the Smart 5 yet 🤷♂️
@@wal they wanna send the 30k i heard see what it does at .8
@@wal I personally enjoy seeing the smaller SQ-Type Amplifiers. They don't make a ton of power obviously; but those are the types of amps I might consider running, if I wasn't running OS CLASS A/B Amps.
As far as what to do with this amp? You should probably do a giveaway with the following rules. Entrants must upload a video describing "The Most Clever Way They Would Destroy The Amp." 😆
I personally would use it for target practice, & fill it full of various-sized holes. 🎯 😉
👉🏼 💨 💨 💨 💨 💨
this is also a great testament to the "differnt amps dont have different sound quality" debate
2:21 that Super Bass is just "Super Distortion"
That's a Class F amp for Fart mode active! :-D
Thank you Big D. I think we've all seen these, known the numbers were a flat out lie but had that thought..."it has to make some noise, though...could be a fun little setup for ____." I know I've thought about it for a little garage stereo project or something.
Big D tryin to be Alfred Hitchcock in the intro. You say don't buy, however, it sound so goood! Oh, nevermind I just saw the end :/
Listen on headphones, you’ll hear da static
I have 4 car amplifiers and I have the same model , it's been working fine since 2008 and only had to change gain potentiometers once . It's powering a dual voice coil pioneer 12 inch subwoofer , both coils are bridged
I loved my alpine V12 100M it was a tiny beast on my jl audio W3 subs back in the day.
Loved the Alpine V12's with swedish Dls speakers, great sounding combo! 😊👌
I will keep sending my old amps out for repair, rather than buying this junk. Todd at Ellensburg Amplifier Repair does excellent work.
Good plan 👌
To make things even better a lot of your amps do have a low pass and/or high pass crossover you should hook it to an oscilloscope to see if at X hertz if the crossover actually works as stated too
So I bought into something similar to this a few times. A couple of years ago I got real big into car audio again and when I checked eBay I was like DAMN! A Lanzar 3000 watt amp for $85.99? Bought it, got it delivered, and as soon as I opened the box I said nahhh...I gave it away. Along with the Pyle 12s that I bought that didn't sound terrible on the PPI "1200 watt" amp that I bought. Right now that PPI "1200 watt" amp is running an 8" Skar IX8 D4 in my Acura TL at full power and it barely pushes it. I wasn't looking for killer bass when I bought the Pyle 12s, but I built a custom vented enclosure for them and they sounded decent with low power, but I soon caught on and dropped some real money on two Sundown SA12-D2s and a Soundstream Rubicon Nano RND5000.1 and they sounded SO much better with 0/1 OFC wire and a big three upgrade. Then I bought two more Sundown SA12-D2s and I also got an Orion HCCA SPLX 3k watt amp and now it's too much...
Lesson learned...
Always remove 1 zero from the rating and then add a ÷ symbol in place of the X symbol.
I bought one of these a couple of years ago.
It doesn't have that distortion issue.
Works good for the garage tunez.
I had a V12 maybe 20 years ago, and that thing was LIFE!! Wish I still had it. And as for the girl tripping, she does those videos on purpose...LOL!
Yeah don’t let this fake one fool you. Alpine v12’s are the real deal
Kinda sounds like there's excessive DC on the speaker terminals , probably a load of crossover distortion from crappy/no bias too. What a landfill warrior.
Maaaan I'm literally cracking up laughing during this entire video! 😂😂😂😂
You forgot to fine tune out that distortion with the adjustments under that tiny piece of plexiglass 🤣😂
Great job man, I'm thankful you didn't test at 1ohm& catch your garage on fire!!!!!🔥🔥🔥keep'em coming( great Halloween amp to scare someone with the Trinity of distortion;-))
Thanks for watching and commenting!
"thats why Im here..." yes..yes....and we thank you for it.
Big G, the girl who fell in the popcorn video does those kind of videos all of the time. Her friend was filming and it was done on purpose. Her name is Paige Ginn.
Y’all are learning me. She sho did smack dat grill in that vid!
Dat subwoofer be like ‘why you play’n me D?????’
Bump doe, not
Almost 1.21 Jiggawatts ! 😂
Love that sticker you added to the amp dyno.
Ya did it wrong. That amp needs more gain a bigger fuse and more volts! 😂😂😂
And a rocket booster with a turbo a supercharger and nitrous oxide.
Big D I would love it if you did a dyno on the nemesis 6k amplifier. Just a request from one of your subscribers.
Before I watch - I am guessing 38 watts. Total, with all channels driven to distortion :)
Man in the intro I thought there was something wrong with my Edifers. Glad to know it was that terrible amp! LOL
They sell these in my country and have been for years for cheap.. trying to copy the alpine v12 amps, I had the privilege of owning a true Alpine V12 600w amp.. cleanest amp I've ever owned.. these cheap amps I wouldn't even give these to my enemies.. well, maybe my ex 😂😂
Not even then🤣
NO Protection! 🤣🤣🤣
👌😬👍
wow the bass THD boost really does increase the THD
I used to own 2 of the Alpine V12 series and it really does look similar.
great sir, greetings sound system from Indonesia🙏🙏, nice to meet you
As my tongue lisp speaking friend would say....
"That thit thlaps bro!"
I had a alpine V12 MRV707 it made everything flexed
That sound when the amp doesn't even get close 🤣 😂
Super bass and no protection got me🤣💀
Lolo
Back in the day. I always thought my V12 I was running for a while was just a `OK’ amp like a budget $35 amp (I paid $35) but fast forward to recent years. I know now that , the V12 I had was actually a badass amp. Lol but 🤷♂️ young and dumb what can I say your honor
My 400 Watt Alpine amp hits just as well on the same subwoofer as the Walmart power acoustic even tho that amp dyno'd like 650 watt or whatever it was. Good amps
That six channel mode is interesting
Been a fan for a while, have you done any videos on CT Sounds? They have a 1000Watt amp on sale right now, for $169. Looks pretty good.
I think an accurate reading of the dampening factor and slew rate would really tell the story here on what's happening with the tweets. Driver control isn't just for woofers. 50% THD don't help either though.
Anyone remember Cuspid? In the early 2000s (maybe 2004) eBay was flooded with 1600W Cupid Car Audio amps that had like a 25A fuse and were complete garbage. With the tweeter distortion my guess is those crappy caps can’t even filter the power source noise well, this would likely hum or whine inside a car.
That was funny as hell, thanks Big D
I need some distortion in my system it sounds to clean this amp is what I’ve been looking for all my life.
I have an audio labs amplifier right now it works fairly decent surprisingly
I've been waiting for you to find out about the fake Alpine amp lol
I just bought 4, two on each subwoofer THESE ARE MONSTERS!!!! 🤣
🤦♂️
lmao, you sir, maked my day!
Please do a review and test of the Rockville Krypton series amps please! I bought the M3 1000W model and have had it for about 3 months and I love it. Excellent amp and features for the price.
Those mrv-1507 amps popped like fire crackers! Great amp, but can’t take abuse of running subs. 90% of them I sold came back for warranty. Would switch them to MTX, kicker, or RF and everything would be good to go!
MTX 81000D
Rockford BD1000 & 1500 & 800.2
Then the big ass kickers. I can’t recall the numbers right now.
Big D you need to drop down the voltage to something realistic 13.3v or so Most of us are not putting out 14.5V
Big D wiz , probably my new amp ,cool vidéo👍
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that 1 out
Finally , lots of this amp available in the Philippines.
This type of car amp can be found all over south east asia, can get them from 40-90$. I bought one 11 years ago for 45$ it had 2 25 amp fuses (also slightly had bigger guts than this one) and it said "3600 Watts" on top but actually it only puts out 600+ watts @ 4 Ohms fully bridged and I found that actually decent. but it gets hot, like real HOT, you can burn your hand on it, literally lmao, without any fans it would surely pop, rip efficiency. great video though!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Being an Alpine guy, having that V12 logo on that piece of garbage is an insult!!! Lol
Damn the blaupunkt is only $50 and kicked its ass. And sounded okay
Have to work hard to make an amp sound that bad. Like an overdriven transistor radio. May be the worst one yet? Thanks for taking the hit!
Sounding, def the worst yet
2:30 That amps looks to be on the level of old school Rockwood amps.
Perfect for the 1 kilowatt JC Whitney 7 way 6x9 speakers
Did you try running the amp dyno in Metric Mode? You might get better numbers from those foreign amplifiers! lol
Or try running the numbers with that new math I’ve heard about lol
Good evening sir. I just got a California special mongoose. Today. In the blue. Great video by the way 👍
Wouldn't have that crap either and thanks for sharing
Bring back the skateboard clip for the intro 😭😂
On these cheap amps you should bypass the fuse and see how much they'll give before they blow
Lmao!! No protection. I almost spit out my coffee after seeing that. 😆
🤣👍
That break-out piece of the board is a common practice. They can lay the entire circuit board out for production, snap the small boards out for fitting in a different location then remarry the boards after wave soldering.
Yeah but it’s in the same place, just turned 90 degrees??
@@wal It was likely designed in such a way as to do that with the single row of pins on each side connecting it.
definitely should do an amp dyno video of the taramps md8000.1
👌😬👍
Thank you for the videos
Man. Hook this up to some superpros and a boss head unit. That would be sweet.
Dam those dynamic numbers that thing has some nice head room. Lol
About as much headroom as a Corvette 😬
@@wal FACTS.
The alpine V12 Is Real those knock offs is sad big d my brothers and friends had the v12 alpine in the 90's they were true nice sounding power and can push a sub 👍
Aww big d i wanted to see magic pixie come out wit 1ohm smoke
hard to believe one can actually design, manufacture, and ship a product like this for under $50 to the USA
I agree