Hi . Robin & Jeff here from WA state. I ve heard your pain when coming across baby graves and heard your concussion when they be name less. I may be able to help some. There is a blood type rh neg- AB that caused the little ones to pass just before birth, during or 72 hours ish after birth. Only 1 percent of our population has this rh - AB. When I see like this graveyard u visited. I can't help but think. My grandma lost 4 daughters in a row. I can only imagine her heartache . Since the 1890s we have learned more. Rh neg ab is nothing like any other & will destroy any other introduced. Respectfully Robin . 😊
Hi there, just wanted to clarify for you on Rhesus (Rh) factor. The Rh factor is an inherited protein that can be found on the surface of the red blood cell. Any blood type that is RH - had many issues in the past after their first pregnancies, the first baby even if it has a different RH factor will be fine however subsequent pregnancies will not. In todays day and age when you become pregnant they test your blood type before delivery, if you are RHESUS NEGATIVE they test the baby after birth to see if it is RH - or +. If the baby is also negative than nothing needs to be done, if the baby is RH + then you will be given a gamma globulin injunction right after delivery to prevent your body from building antibodies that will fight to destroy any of the baby’s RH + blood that was passed to the mother thru the umbilical cord during birth. That way if you get pregnant again with an RH + baby your body won’t attack the subsequent baby or babies.
Just to add, the blood TYPE (A, B, O) is not a problem. The baby will inherit one or the other or in the case of an A parent and a B parent, either one or potentially an AB type. None of these have any bearing on the rh factor. One of my foster daughters had this issue with O negative blood type when the father was rh positive. This is ONLY necessary if the mother is RH negative and the father is RH positive. If both are negative, its not a problem as the baby will also be a rh negative. if both are positive its also not a problem, and if the father is negative and the mother is positive its also not a problem as negative blood from the father can mix with positive from the mother with no issues, whatever the rh factor of the baby. I've noticed a trend in recent years for people to immediately jump to this as a plausible explanation for the many many multiple stillbirths/neonatal deaths of babies back in the day, when there is simply no evidence to suggest it was a widespread problem. Its still quite rare now tbh and thankfully we have the tools to treat it. But negative blood types aren't common at all so its way more likely to have been one of many other more plausible and common pregnancy/birth complications that occurred back then. Repeated loss of infants was commonly a result of poverty and lack of food/resources for the mother, poor health of the mother, often due to those lack of resources but not always, cervical insufficiency, disease, cold, overwork, accident, lack of adequate care during pregnancy and birth, lack of hygiene post-partum, premature births, breech births and other birthing complications, lack of provision for the baby, inadequate feeding, failure to thrive and then disease etc for the baby too, plus dodgy baby care practices, genetic factors, birth defects and plain old bad luck. 100 years ago, you could work your way down a list of 100 things that could go wrong before you got to incompatible rhesus factors.....
Nicely done, Leo & Heather. You do a fantastic job covering these stories. I've learned so much from you. You may have only been doing this for about a year, but you are thorough. Thank you for doing all you do.i dearly love this channel❤
Ishmael is my great grandfather's brother. I don't know a whole a lot about Ishmael other than that he was killed via electric chair over a murder that had to do with a woman. Bev is my great grandfather's father I believe. I was talking about the history with my mom today and came upon this video. Thank you for making this video, it has given me some new information. ❤
You got lucky Leo, you finally found a cemetery with, little incline, no thorns, no rain and you seemed to have found the graves you and Heather were looking for without too much trouble. Interesting graves, the children's graves were very sad 😔 😟 I am glad that someone is trying to take care of them. Same with the Scott family. Thank you very much for another great video Leo and Heather. Take care. 😊
I am pretty confident my mother made those headstones. She definitely made the other ones there that have corners loped off. She made 100’s of headstones around those old graveyards.
I love your videos. My grandfather was born and raised in Logan WV. My mom was born in logan and was delivered by one of the Mccoys. We still own the land on the side of the mountain although i havent been in many years im going to take a trip soon the smell of the coal burning and those woods bring the best of memories. Anyways thank you for the uploads.
I do genealogy here in Southwestern Virginia.. Many of the cemeteries that i document have such interesting people buried within. The older generations love to tell the family history. Who died how and interesting moments from the lives of their Kin. Thank you so much for taking us along with you as you explore all these interesting resting places. Be Safe and looking forward to many more.
I know here in North central Texas when it was first settled, mortality rate on infants was so high some parents didn't give a baby a name for a while. My mom's family is in Floyd county KY. McDowell. Cool to see this video. My mom's family name is Moore, and I believe I have family right there in that cemetery.
Keep on telling these stories. You all are doing a great job. I am paying attention to the advertising also. I appreciate the companies that make these videos possible.
Definitely a different time, to go through the trouble and expense of a burial and stone and not put a name, to me that seems insensitive, was not giving the child a name a way of not connecting unless you knew it lived, my kids had names before they took their first breath, as a matter of fact my daughter had a miscarriage and she was buried with a name, even the lord said " I knew you in the womb" ...🤨Definitely a different time!
Very interesting cementery that some persons are keeping in good condition. When I see you at these cementeries Iwant to go around to our local graveyards and try to make them look better but I am not able now to do this. I regret this.I have alway felt sad when I see unkept graves. I hope you find out about Ishmael. and why he was excited. Hope you can continue doing this vlog. It is so interesting and educational. Please encourage people you know to support this channel. Thanks Heather and Leo.
I really like your videos. I've always found it interesting to walk through cemeteries. There is so much history and so many stories. Thank you for the videos!
Love your coverage and that you tell the story and give the history with pictures and news clips and not just the grave. These graveyards and their stories would be forgotten without folks like you. Maybe your videos will help bring awareness to the need for volunteers to help keep these hallowed spaces taken care of. Thank you
The biggest thing is your giving family that lives far away to see where their family is buried and see their headstone. Something they might not ever see. Thank you Heather and Leo. You do good work and God will remember you for that. Happy New Year
I grew up in a tiny town in SW Ohio, and there is an old cemetery with only about 20 or so marked graves. When I was a kid, 50 years ago, you could still read them, not anymore. But one family had lost 5 kids under 7 years old, in the month of July, all in the same year.
This is my direct line. This is my dads father and brother. If you have any questions , feel free to contact me. As I have done genealogy for decades. Also arch Moore is my great great great grandfather. His daughter Nancy Moore who is Lizzie warrens Scott’s mother
WOW! I just love the research that you do Heather. It is always so accurate. Bless his heart. Leo is always climbing mountains to visit a grave in a cemetery. I believe he has good leg muscles. How sad! Seven children's graves. Perhaps the children dies from an epidemic or something that in their time did not have a cure like whooping cough or diarrhea. This is really a nice cemetery Heather and Leo. in one recent video, if you will recall, you climbed to the top of a mountain to visit a cemetery that you learned was divided into 3 levels. There was somewhat of a trail, but not a good one for driving an automobile. All levels of this cemetery were overgrown.. However, I do remember at the very top of the mountain some of the graves had flowers that appeared to have been recently placed on them. I wonder if you have heard of Charles Anderson Mills, aka "Likker Charlie," a moonshiner and murderer, in Camp Creek, WV (Mercer County - Beckley area). There is quite a story about this man. Thank you. Great video.
Hi there, so good to see Heather on the video, please don't get me wrong I love Leo n love listening to him tell the stories, and I know Heather's busy at home editing n other things to bring us you're Fascinating Videos, but it's nice to see Heather whenever she's able , Stay safe n God bless ❤️🙏
Hy Heather. Good to see you back. Yes I can still remember last year. Leo going true snow and torns up a hill finding a gravesight. So yeah been following your stories for a year now. Very interesting. Have a great season Heather & Leo from far away. ❤❤🎉🎉🎄🌟
After watching many of your videos for about a year, I finally got around to subscribing! I feel guilty for not doing it sooner. My wife and I love your programs and learn a lot about the south. Much of my childhood was spent in Georgia and Tennessee and near the border of W Virginia in Ohio. But I don't remember much about the south, and I enjoy delving into stories about the people that you feature in your videos. Keep up the good work!
Love watching your videos...Ive recently gotten into tracking my family bloodlines , a lot of them being located in eastern KY. As a child of adoption I never had family so to speak but in watching these I feel like Im having conversations with those who have come before.Thank You for the time and effort in making these !
Every cemetery has so many interesting people and stories! You all do such wonderful work bringing as many as you can to life. I love this channel. Happy New Year Heather and Leo❤️🎉
I love your videos. You shed light on people that have long been forgotten. I absolutely love the videos you do on the Hatfields and McCoy's. I have always been captivated by their stories.
"Bad" Bill Waters, the other guy in that article about the executions - I recently blogged about him a few months ago. He too was a very interesting character. The blog was an article from the Louisville Courier-Journal that I transcribed. But his story is so much bigger than that article even. Great video as always.
Happy New Year Heather and Leo. I've been a subscriber for a while and I love the history. I'm just along for the ride. Best of luck in the year ahead. God Bless from Wisconsin. Wisconsin hillbilly out.😂😅😂
The Spanish Flu epidemic was rampant in the US in 1918-1919 as soldiers returned from World War 1....many people including a lot of children died of the flu pandemic...My great grandmother passed away from it after traveling to from Dallas on a train with many sick soldiers returning from Europe....
I was thinking that the expense of placing a headstone and name may have been costly back then. My grandma, daddy and brother still have no headstone. One day my sister and I hope to afford one and have all three names on the same headstone.
I was wondering about something. Do you have any information on The Harry Lee Moore that this Cemetery was named after? I’ve been doing some research on the Different Moore’s in Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia. The story I heard through our Family is that there was 4 Moore Brothers who settled in the Eastern Kentucky and Wayne County,Areas. Their names were, William,David, Samuel and Harry Moore. William and David’s Family lines are accounted for. From what I can find out, my Line is from Samuel’s. Harry’s , far as I know I haven’t been able to account for. I wonder if this is the Harry that could be their Brother.
The babies probably weren't named yet. Very likely could have died from the Spanish Flu, which was another pandemic like covid. Killed a lot of people around the 1918 time frame. Very sad they lost so many children.
it would be so satisfying if there was a way that a caring group of people could go out and reclaim and clean up some of the lost cemetaries that you guys find. i know there have to be people out there willing to do it, but maybe dont feel they can do it alone. maybe start some kind of online vlog to get volunteers for a specific cemetary at a certain time. of course our govt. should has been doing this all along over the decades, but you know how that goes. no money for their pockets, so not interested,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe someone will start up a group to help the cemetary you document. nobody wants to be buried and forgotten forever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Thats a huge order for sure, theres 100s and 100s of these cemeteries and this is a struggling area, most people cant even take care of themselves properly. Most are on hills so you also need to be healthy. Its just not likely to happen honestly.
Wow! Ishmael and Bev Scott are my relatives! I have tons of research on them and I have the letters that Ishmael wrote to his mom from prison. They are very sad letters. You can see Ishmael's prison photo on Findagrave. Awesome video!
Thank you guys😊
My maiden is Moore 😊
New subscriber! Thanks for the video.
Hi . Robin & Jeff here from WA state. I ve heard your pain when coming across baby graves and heard your concussion when they be name less. I may be able to help some. There is a blood type rh neg- AB that caused the little ones to pass just before birth, during or 72 hours ish after birth. Only 1 percent of our population has this rh - AB. When I see like this graveyard u visited. I can't help but think. My grandma lost 4 daughters in a row. I can only imagine her heartache . Since the 1890s we have learned more. Rh neg ab is nothing like any other & will destroy any other introduced. Respectfully Robin . 😊
Hi there, just wanted to clarify for you on Rhesus (Rh) factor. The Rh factor is an inherited protein that can be found on the surface of the red blood cell. Any blood type that is RH - had many issues in the past after their first pregnancies, the first baby even if it has a different RH factor will be fine however subsequent pregnancies will not. In todays day and age when you become pregnant they test your blood type before delivery, if you are RHESUS NEGATIVE they test the baby after birth to see if it is RH - or +. If the baby is also negative than nothing needs to be done, if the baby is RH + then you will be given a gamma globulin injunction right after delivery to prevent your body from building antibodies that will fight to destroy any of the baby’s RH + blood that was passed to the mother thru the umbilical cord during birth. That way if you get pregnant again with an RH + baby your body won’t attack the subsequent baby or babies.
Just to add, the blood TYPE (A, B, O) is not a problem. The baby will inherit one or the other or in the case of an A parent and a B parent, either one or potentially an AB type. None of these have any bearing on the rh factor. One of my foster daughters had this issue with O negative blood type when the father was rh positive.
This is ONLY necessary if the mother is RH negative and the father is RH positive. If both are negative, its not a problem as the baby will also be a rh negative. if both are positive its also not a problem, and if the father is negative and the mother is positive its also not a problem as negative blood from the father can mix with positive from the mother with no issues, whatever the rh factor of the baby.
I've noticed a trend in recent years for people to immediately jump to this as a plausible explanation for the many many multiple stillbirths/neonatal deaths of babies back in the day, when there is simply no evidence to suggest it was a widespread problem. Its still quite rare now tbh and thankfully we have the tools to treat it. But negative blood types aren't common at all so its way more likely to have been one of many other more plausible and common pregnancy/birth complications that occurred back then.
Repeated loss of infants was commonly a result of poverty and lack of food/resources for the mother, poor health of the mother, often due to those lack of resources but not always, cervical insufficiency, disease, cold, overwork, accident, lack of adequate care during pregnancy and birth, lack of hygiene post-partum, premature births, breech births and other birthing complications, lack of provision for the baby, inadequate feeding, failure to thrive and then disease etc for the baby too, plus dodgy baby care practices, genetic factors, birth defects and plain old bad luck.
100 years ago, you could work your way down a list of 100 things that could go wrong before you got to incompatible rhesus factors.....
Nicely done, Leo & Heather. You do a fantastic job covering these stories. I've learned so much from you. You may have only been doing this for about a year, but you are thorough. Thank you for doing all you do.i dearly love this channel❤
Ishmael is my great grandfather's brother. I don't know a whole a lot about Ishmael other than that he was killed via electric chair over a murder that had to do with a woman. Bev is my great grandfather's father I believe. I was talking about the history with my mom today and came upon this video. Thank you for making this video, it has given me some new information. ❤
My Great , Great Uncle G.W. Stacy was in the 10th KY Calvary
Keep on keeping on....we love you!
I go to the Elkhorn park all the time. I did not know this story. I will visit it next time I’m there. Good story.
Thanks!
Thank You!!
You got lucky Leo, you finally found a cemetery with, little incline, no thorns, no rain and you seemed to have found the graves you and Heather were looking for without too much trouble. Interesting graves, the children's graves were very sad 😔 😟 I am glad that someone is trying to take care of them. Same with the Scott family.
Thank you very much for another great video Leo and Heather. Take care. 😊
Much easier to walk at this site!!! Thank you guys 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome work Heather and Leo. Bless you both!
Very interesting stories. Thank you and subscribers too. Greetings from Charleston, West Virginia.
Hope you can keep up the interesting stories 👍🇺🇸
I am pretty confident my mother made those headstones. She definitely made the other ones there that have corners loped off. She made 100’s of headstones around those old graveyards.
Keep it up
I love your videos. My grandfather was born and raised in Logan WV. My mom was born in logan and was delivered by one of the Mccoys. We still own the land on the side of the mountain although i havent been in many years im going to take a trip soon the smell of the coal burning and those woods bring the best of memories. Anyways thank you for the uploads.
I do genealogy here in Southwestern Virginia.. Many of the cemeteries that i document have such interesting people buried within. The older generations love to tell the family history. Who died how and interesting moments from the lives of their Kin.
Thank you so much for taking us along with you as you explore all these interesting resting places.
Be Safe and looking forward to many more.
I know here in North central Texas when it was first settled, mortality rate on infants was so high some parents didn't give a baby a name for a while. My mom's family is in Floyd county KY. McDowell. Cool to see this video. My mom's family name is Moore, and I believe I have family right there in that cemetery.
Keep on telling these stories. You all are doing a great job. I am paying attention to the advertising also. I appreciate the companies that make these videos possible.
Raymond Scott was given a military funeral. That’s the type of headstone they provide.
Don’t change your format! It’s authentic and sincere! You’re doing great. From NH
Dont change! I enjoy it and your personable presentation. Thank you for your information, Heather. It makes the people's life come alive.
The kids with no names most likely were too young or stillborns so they didn’t have names for them that’s just a guess from me
seems consistent w my experience within my own family
I remember reading that parents didn't name their children till a certain age due to high infant mortality at the time.
@@TABrown-xh7xc I heard that as well
Definitely a different time, to go through the trouble and expense of a burial and stone and not put a name, to me that seems insensitive, was not giving the child a name a way of not connecting unless you knew it lived, my kids had names before they took their first breath, as a matter of fact my daughter had a miscarriage and she was buried with a name, even the lord said " I knew you in the womb" ...🤨Definitely a different time!
my grandmother said the same thing, sometimes families would wait 6 mos to a year to name a child due to the high infant mortality
Very interesting cementery that some persons are keeping in good condition. When I see you at these cementeries Iwant to go around to our local graveyards and try to
make them look better but I am not able now to do this. I regret this.I have alway felt sad when I see unkept graves. I hope you find out about Ishmael. and why he was excited. Hope you can continue doing this vlog. It is so interesting and educational. Please encourage people you know to support this channel. Thanks Heather and Leo.
He supposedly killed someone
Keep doing what your doing Leo and Heather.Your videos have got a guy in New Zealand hooked
I watch you guys everyday,keep up the good work, i really appreciate U2.
Another Great Video Y'All thanks for making it
I have family over there besides Hatfield and McCoy s
I really like your videos. I've always found it interesting to walk through cemeteries. There is so much history and so many stories. Thank you for the videos!
Love your coverage and that you tell the story and give the history with pictures and news clips and not just the grave. These graveyards and their stories would be forgotten without folks like you. Maybe your videos will help bring awareness to the need for volunteers to help keep these hallowed spaces taken care of. Thank you
The biggest thing is your giving family that lives far away to see where their family is buried and see their headstone. Something they might not ever see. Thank you Heather and Leo. You do good work and God will remember you for that. Happy New Year
I grew up in a tiny town in SW Ohio, and there is an old cemetery with only about 20 or so marked graves. When I was a kid, 50 years ago, you could still read them, not anymore. But one family had lost 5 kids under 7 years old, in the month of July, all in the same year.
Sounds like the little ones dying in the same month may have been victims of a fire or epidemic.
We all find our tribe along the way.
This is my direct line. This is my dads father and brother. If you have any questions , feel free to contact me. As I have done genealogy for decades. Also arch Moore is my great great great grandfather. His daughter Nancy Moore who is Lizzie warrens Scott’s mother
WOW! I just love the research that you do Heather. It is always so accurate. Bless his heart. Leo is always climbing mountains to visit a grave in a cemetery. I believe he has good leg muscles. How sad! Seven children's graves. Perhaps the children dies from an epidemic or something that in their time did not have a cure like whooping cough or diarrhea. This is really a nice cemetery Heather and Leo. in one recent video, if you will recall, you climbed to the top of a mountain to visit a cemetery that you learned was divided into 3 levels. There was somewhat of a trail, but not a good one for driving an automobile. All levels of this cemetery were overgrown.. However, I do remember at the very top of the mountain some of the graves had flowers that appeared to have been recently placed on them.
I wonder if you have heard of Charles Anderson Mills, aka "Likker Charlie," a moonshiner and murderer, in Camp Creek, WV (Mercer County - Beckley area). There is quite a story about this man. Thank you. Great video.
Hi there, so good to see Heather on the video, please don't get me wrong I love Leo n love listening to him tell the stories, and I know Heather's busy at home editing n other things to bring us you're Fascinating Videos, but it's nice to see Heather whenever she's able , Stay safe n God bless ❤️🙏
Hy Heather. Good to see you back. Yes I can still remember last year. Leo going true snow and torns up a hill finding a gravesight. So yeah been following your stories for a year now. Very interesting. Have a great season Heather & Leo from far away. ❤❤🎉🎉🎄🌟
Leo and Heather I always love watching Your Channel Cheers again Mick Australia
Awesome, thank you!
After watching many of your videos for about a year, I finally got around to subscribing! I feel guilty for not doing it sooner. My wife and I love your programs and learn a lot about the south. Much of my childhood was spent in Georgia and Tennessee and near the border of W Virginia in Ohio. But I don't remember much about the south, and I enjoy delving into stories about the people that you feature in your videos. Keep up the good work!
Love watching your videos...Ive recently gotten into tracking my family bloodlines , a lot of them being located in eastern KY. As a child of adoption I never had family so to speak but in watching these I feel like Im having conversations with those who have come before.Thank You for the time and effort in making these !
Love your videos.
It always turns Me in the gut when I see Baby Graves great work as always Cheers Mick Stanthorpe Australia happy new year
Happy new year!
Every cemetery has so many interesting people and stories! You all do such wonderful work bringing as many as you can to life. I love this channel. Happy New Year Heather and Leo❤️🎉
I love your videos. You shed light on people that have long been forgotten. I absolutely love the videos you do on the Hatfields and McCoy's. I have always been captivated by their stories.
"Bad" Bill Waters, the other guy in that article about the executions - I recently blogged about him a few months ago. He too was a very interesting character. The blog was an article from the Louisville Courier-Journal that I transcribed. But his story is so much bigger than that article even.
Great video as always.
Ex ellent videos
my moms family is from here. Bevins
God Bless you both😊
I live I Alabama, and I saw all those Turner Graves. I am a Turner, and my grandfather moved from KY before ww2. Interesting. Thanks for sharing
Those poor babies, I wish they were name.
Happy New Year Heather and Leo. I've been a subscriber for a while and I love the history. I'm just along for the ride. Best of luck in the year ahead.
God Bless from Wisconsin.
Wisconsin hillbilly out.😂😅😂
The Spanish Flu epidemic was rampant in the US in 1918-1919 as soldiers returned from World War 1....many people including a lot of children died of the flu pandemic...My great grandmother passed away from it after traveling to from Dallas on a train with many sick soldiers returning from Europe....
Yep my grandmother lost her first husband and a child during that time.
My grandmother was a Garrett…
I was thinking that the expense of placing a headstone and name may have been costly back then. My grandma, daddy and brother still have no headstone. One day my sister and I hope to afford one and have all three names on the same headstone.
I was wondering about something. Do you have any information on The Harry Lee Moore that this Cemetery was named after? I’ve been doing some research on the Different Moore’s in Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia. The story I heard through our Family is that there was 4 Moore Brothers who settled in the Eastern Kentucky and Wayne County,Areas. Their names were, William,David, Samuel and Harry Moore. William and David’s Family lines are accounted for. From what I can find out, my Line is from Samuel’s. Harry’s , far as I know I haven’t been able to account for. I wonder if this is the Harry that could be their Brother.
tis a pretty cematary. Thanks for the story
Thanks!
my great grandmother elizabeth maiden name was scott from indiana but some reason i cant locate her parents
Look into the Hargis feud in Breathitt county Kentucky it was worse than the Hatfield McCoy feud
Did you ever do any further research on the 7 babies?
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I have a question for you guys do you know anything about the last name hazelrigg/Huffman /Foultner/faulkner
Why Ishmael was executed. Sorry for the typo. I usually type on my phone and can't seem to hit the Keyes correctly.😢
He supposedly killed someone
Intresting
The babies probably weren't named yet. Very likely could have died from the Spanish Flu, which was another pandemic like covid. Killed a lot of people around the 1918 time frame. Very sad they lost so many children.
Did you find the parents of those babies?
it would be so satisfying if there was a way that a caring group of people could go out and reclaim and clean up some of the lost cemetaries that you guys find. i know there have to be people out there willing to do it, but maybe dont feel they can do it alone. maybe start some kind of online vlog to get volunteers for a specific cemetary at a certain time. of course our govt. should has been doing this all along over the decades, but you know how that goes. no money for their pockets, so not interested,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe someone will start up a group to help the cemetary you document. nobody wants to be buried and forgotten forever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Thats a huge order for sure, theres 100s and 100s of these cemeteries and this is a struggling area, most people cant even take care of themselves properly. Most are on hills so you also need to be healthy. Its just not likely to happen honestly.
yeah, i understand. its just such a shame to see some of them so neglected.@@thehillbillyfiles
They could have died in a fire and couldn’t be identified.
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there names arent even on the marriage record either in 1848
I think these are newborns who didn't even have time to give a name ((((((((
Heather is right it’s because she is with you . Cause we all know …hillbilly mountain goats unit !
What's with the AI voices? Not sure I like it.
Ohhh gr8 another critic. Just watch the videos... or don't
Wow! Ishmael and Bev Scott are my relatives! I have tons of research on them and I have the letters that Ishmael wrote to his mom from prison. They are very sad letters. You can see Ishmael's prison photo on Findagrave. Awesome video!