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“He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior...... and he was a good friend”
Gets me everytime :'(
Thank you
Anakin Skywalker May the force be with you, my apprentice ❤️
What did you say?
Darth vader take a seat, young Vader
David Prowse is the man in the suit. James Earl Jones is Vader's voice.
David Prowse did not play Darth Vader in the Lightsaber Scenes. The lightsaber fighting scenes were performed by stuntman Bob Anderson
@@2apocalypsex Ah, interesting. I did not know that.
Ironically Lucas was seriously thinking about have Jones under the mask in the last scene in RotJ. But the studio felt that the reveal of Luke as half black would confuse some audience members or they would not accept an interracial hero even in 1983. Personally though I always felt that would have been f'n amazing, especially with the caliber of actor Jones is to have that scene with Hamill. Though we would have lost Hayden Christensen and Jake Lloyd, though I know some who would not consider that a loss. But also probably Matt Lanter's Anakin in Clone Wars, for other actors.
Aaron_Aapocalypse-X _Haselrig i dont think it would take a stuntman to do the original fight lol
@@bacondorito Apparently Bob only played Vader in fight scenes in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
If the 1977 audience saw this fight, their faces would’ve probably melted off
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The original prop lightsabers were very fragile, which is why the first movie had such a below average combat. Sir Alec Guinness was really a very good stage sword fighter. But the actor who played darth vader had a lot of trouble with mobility and vision. It was very challenging to film for Lucas but herein lies the reason star wars deserves its due as a breakthrough in film history.
They actually replaced David Prowse in the suit with professional stuntman/swordfight master Bob Anderson who went on to do all the sword traing and combat supervision for the LOrd of the Rings movie trilogy.
@@blueroninstudios Yes, I was aware that it was not Prowse in the original scene but could not recall who the stuntman was. Didn't know it was a future LOTR coordinator. I'll go to bed less dumb tonight, thanks :D.
Bob Anderson only came along in Empire right?
@@darth856 not sure, you can google it I suppose
+Denis Eaton Not only were they very fragile (crystal & glass I believe), but they didn't have many replacements/ backups since Star Wars was operating on a shoestring budget.
So basically, if they were swung too vigorously, or came into contact with each other, they would crack. And if that happened too much, they would have to cut this entire (crucial) scene! Especially since Lucas had already squeezed every (reluctant) penny out of 20th Century Fox that he was going to get for this expected "flop".
The prequel callbacks kinda hits you in the gut. The feels.... 😭
The only legitimately good line and performance from the prequels - "You were my brother, Anakin! ... I LOVED you!"
@@k1productions87 I HATE YOU
This scene even makes the prequels a little better by adding a little more meaning.
@@k1productions87 Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagues the Wise?
@@k1productions87 I HATE YOU!!!
James Earl Jones is only the voice of Vader, he's not the actor that's inside the suit.
It's interesting to watch some of the BTS footage where the actor who plays Vader talks. His voice is so... almost normal, I wanna say.
LegoMaster91 yeah it’s definitely weird to hear compared to what we are used to
David Prowse was in the suit
@@nathanielreik6617 Don't forget the lightsaber fight scenes were done by Bob Anderson so that means 5 actors played Vader live action
If the fight scene went like that when Star Wars was originally released, I'm almost positive people's heads would have exploded.
The only problem is, the dialog added from Episode III would have made no sense
They sure would have exploded if it was a Special Edition added to the Jabba scene the fan boys would have hit the fan.
Just some key details that kept this fight believable for me is that Vader still has limited mobility such as the fact that he can never hold his lightsaber right above his head. As we’ll as it actually seemed like Vader was actually angry at Obi-Wan for the events that happened on Mustafar.
Why can’t he hold the lightsaber that high? Is the suit restricting is arms from doing so?
@@CEOofUrButt a reminder his arms are robotic and not independent from his suit but consider it to be all one peice, there is not much mobility. Not tendons or stretchy parts.
@@CEOofUrButt Its the heavy shoulder padding. That armor limits that range of movement specifically.
Anakin: I HATE YOU!!!
Obi Wan: You were my brother Anakin!!! I loved you!!!
That part always gets to me. Beautifully made video!
This reimagined scene has more impact if you've seen the prequels as well (particularly the ending of Episode 3 Revenge of The Sith). I've watched this re-imagining several times (usually via reaction videos) and those "echoes of the past" always stir up the feels.
It's when the prequel sounds come in that you really feel for characters
Side note: At first James Earl Jones didn't even want to be credited for the voice in Star Wars as he said he saw it as a special effect. He came back and did the Vader voice for Rebels as well.
Rebels is where the "Our long awaited meeting has come at last" line originates.
Have to admire such humility.
Whenever i watch a new hope i love to imagine how it would look if it was made today. George probably intended or the obi wan vader fight to be more intense but because the two men were so old it was practically impossible for them to do fancy moves. Many fans including myself like to believe that during this fight vader and obi were battling mentally through the force meaning that what you were seeing upon screen was a small sum of what was actually happening. if you ever rewatch ep 4 take this perspective with you as it makes the fight much more interesting and enjoyable!
Also was the problem with the lightsaber material back then. If the actors hit them too hard the blade would shatter
Don't let the age of both men fool you, the actor who played Vader was actually young and the actor who played Obi Wan had experience in sword fights and was trained to do sword fights in plays.
I think I remember hearing somewhere that lightsabers were originally meant to be heavy, which is why Darth Vader and Obi Wan both fought two handed, and anytime the lightsaber was really used it was always two handed, with the only exception being when Luke first gets his and waves it around some.
To stray away from this, they had Luke use the lightsaber one handed in some moments and they had Vader in Episode V fight with only one hand to make the lightsaber seem lighter, and this is when kendo was introduced, which is the fighting style lightsaber duels became based off of, to help improve the duels and then from that movie onward they wanted to keep making the duels faster and faster paced up until what we got in Episode III.
Have you ever seen how palpatine fights? He was much older than these two but he was spining and jumping around like crazy
Fun fact: David Prowse, the guy who played Darth Vader, was in A Clockwork Orange as the bodyguard of the writer. He was also a British powerlifter back in the day. George Lucas made a good choice in casting him to play Vader haha.
This is my favourite Star Wars fan recreation video. It just brings up that fight from 1977 to the standard we know today, with that level of intensity and choreography we love. I think this is one of the rare cases where I actually prefer a recreation over the original, although I still highly respect the original
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The person(s) that made this did a very good job. He even added Anakin & Ewan's voice to this fight
James Earl Jones just did vaders voice. David Prowse was the man in the suit. If you watch behind the scenes shots of A New Hope, vader is just scottish. A note on the fight though and the recent explanation from Dave Faloni, when we get to the scene where you hear the flash back voice of obiwan saying, "you were my brother anakin", the scene fits even better now because Anakin didn't need a brother, he needed a father and that was taken from him with Qui_gons death and he found his father figure in the manipulation of palpatine and as a result, instead of anakin, vader now stands before obiwan
Obi wan never hurt somebody who you can't kill
You should react to Before The Dark Times
^this
And "Way to Shadow"
Yes. Perhaps my favorite of all.
Definitely, one of my favorites.
After you're finished with the OT you should react to "the chosen one"
that’ll take her for a ride
yesss
Just watch everything that HFP made
There's this trailer I'm hoping she'll watch before she watches the Rise of Skywalker. It's by Ad edits and it's so awesome.
The props were super fragile and very expansive, that's the main explaination about the slow fight in the original. And they weren't sure that the lighting effects would match correctly on fast moves.
All fair points, I've heard a few reasons why they were so slow. I'm sure its a culmination of them all
@@Gaxelle I have a question please forgive this being a little off topic, would you consider one day doing a chronological watch-through of the Fox X-Men franchise films (with Wolverine and Deadpool movies)? Just curious
David Prowse is the actor in the suit. He delivered Vader's lines during filming, but George and some others didn't think his voice was intimidating enough for the character. So they hired James Earl Jones to do the voice and dub over Prowse's lines.
Yes Vader did not sound like a Sith Lord when you originally heard him speak the lines with David Prowse's strong British accent.
Man, every time I see Vader I still see the little boy on Tatooine who just wanted to explore the galaxy.
Aahh this feels just like how they left off back at that battle at Mustafar
The reason the original saber fight in New Hope is the way it is, was because the original sabers they used for that movie were made of glass, and were EXTREMELY fragile, to the point they shattered as soon as anything hit them, so when they filmed the final scene (the one we see in the movie), Bob Anderson and Alec Guiness had to make sure their sabers actually never touched.
Dave Prowse performed the original fight. Anderson came in with EMPIRE. And it shows in Vader's moves as well; Prowse's bulk made his movement much clunkier, whereas Anderson's lightsaber fighting is much more fluid. Even with better sword props, I don't think Prowse would have done much better in the original fight than he already did.
Oh My God First I can't believe it! Another great reaction Gaxelle, your videos are helping me quarantine.
Also you're right, they could use the force to make their old bodies faster. That's what Yoda & Sidious do.
Love your content, your reactions are genuine, you use good language, very impressive! Keep up the great work!
This is my favorite fan edit/"movie" for Star Wars, and one of my favorite lightsaber duels among them all. It really bridges the prequels and the OT.
Compared to the original fight scene from 1977, this one wasn't just better choreographed, but was far more emotional in context with Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship in the prequels, which this original fight scene just didn't have. The last time Anakin and Obi-Wan saw each other, it was 19 years ago when they fought and Obi-Wan left Anakin for dead on Mustafar. Imagine the feelings that would be going through them both, through Anakin. Imagine his hatred and anger. They managed to convey those emotions so well, even though you couldn't see Vader's face. They showed it through the music and the way Vader fought. They perfectly captured how ruthless and aggressive with a lightsaber Vader is said to be, and even blended it with a bit of Anakin's old fighting style to show that Anakin was still in there. They also kept faithful to the fact that Vader couldn't lift his arms over his shoulders, which was a nice attention to detail.
Also this makes Obi-Wan's sacrifice make more sense. Originally it looked like Obi-Wan just decided to let himself die in front of Luke, but here we see that Vader was slowly overpowering him. Obi-Wan couldn't win. He knew he couldn't win. He never planned on winning. From how he was talking to Luke before, he sounded like he knew he was gonna die. He took on Vader just to keep him distracted, knowing he wouldn't be walking away with his life. This adds so much more weight to his decision. He put himself in that situation just to keep the others safe.
It also adds to the scene to not have Vader just kinda standing there with his lightsaber already ignited, as if patiently waiting for Obi-Wan or stumbling upon him. Here we see Vader actively hunting him down. We see his aggression and anticipation as Vader moved to intercept him, even before the fight started. We get a feeling for how badly he wants Obi-Wan taken care of. And we get that intimidation upon seeing Vader intercepting Obi-Wan (the doors behind Vader were still closing, showing he'd just arrived) and igniting his lightsaber in front of him.
And that music... as it crescendos near the end, the final hate-filled stare Vader/Anakin gives Obi-Wan (considering the last time they saw each other), and those quotes... This actually made me tear up. As much as I love Star Wars, I don't think it's ever made me cry before, but this made me want to. They really nailed the tone and character so well in this scene, even better than the original movie did.
Totally agree. It just perfect and the way to bridge the prequels and the OT is magnificent. I love the emotional part of it, it just adds more to the fight.
The graphics team actually did a brilliant job of fan re edits. This is how it should have been . Nostalgia man
The little smile she has when hearing the cast is great.
Earl? he has a really deep voice for a supper white... checks internet... oh!
david prowse was in the vader suit he is also the guy who trained christopher reeve to get in shape when he played Superman
I am enjoying watching all of the Star Wars content along with you. It’s refreshing seeing it from the perspective of someone younger who’s seeing it for the first time. I agree with many of the commenters saying that the fight is more emotional because you can refer back to the prequels and the lines they added from Ep.3. In regards to how slow and lumbering the original fight in Ep.4 is, Lucas originally wanted the sabers to feel like they were heavy and difficult to wield so they were choreographed that way. As the OT continued they realized that it would need to be more exciting so the pace of the fighting quickened eventually becoming what we see in the prequels. Keep it up and can’t wait till you get to Ep.6!
"Why are they doing this?" 😆
I actually love how emotional you got over this.
Not sure how "experienced" you are with the Star Wars universe, but you just showed the beauty of it... 🙂
I'm pretty sure she watched it completely in chronological order
You can see the anger and the hate through Vader's mask. I LOVE IT!!
BTW I totally love all of your reaction videos because the majority of the time I absolutely agree with your assessments of the situations.
When you got serious unfinished business like those two... you don’t care about being on fire!
I appreciate watching your reaction over a lot of other peoples because you really seem to appreciate the lore and the story.
One of the issues in the first movie is that they hadn't really perfected the sabers. They kept breaking if they hit them too hard. At least at first, the blades were spinning as well to make them reflect flashing light on the actors before they were rotoscoped.
In the original movie's defense, they had an incredibly low budget for the film. Fox gave George 7.5 million I believe to start and it all had to be on screen. All the unknown actors didn't get paid. George Lucas had to front a lot of his own money because no one believed in the project, so getting good fight choreography for the film was not a possibility. Also, as you said, both actors are older.
I’ve also heard that the sticks that they used as lightsabers in EP4 were made of a super frail material that would break super easily so the actors never even touch each others sabers properly.
The prequel flashback dialogue makes the scene a homerun. For both of them, the trauma of their last meeting on that volcanic beach was never forgotten. It gave them both heavy ptsd, and Vader was spoiling for that rematch for almost 20 years.
Wow with her stoic demeanor at the beginning,I didn't expect her to become so emotional.
Good lord the music just before Obi Wan's death was so damn emotional,it was the perfect soundtrack to symbolise the end of Obi Wan,the definition of a true jedi 👏
I can't believe you haven't had seen this before...I was thinking about this fan video yesterday as we watch Ep.IV lol...Just love your emotional moments ...sorry haha.
When I first watched this, I was actually amazed. It felt right that they were fighting like instead of the slow version in the actual movie.
The original fight in episode 4 felt more like George trying to introduce us to the concept of lightsaber fighting. This re-imagining of the fight feels like a continuation of the duel on Mustafar.
The emotional bit gets especially the empathetic types. I got that too and watched this more than 10 times. Great production c to the Hollywood productions that focus on delivering on time and money with some low quality scene/delivery.
Love your reactions, thank you
David Prowse was a British born bodybuilder and physical actor (usually in a suit or costume which hid his features). He portrayed Darth Vader because of his 6 foot 10 inch frame, to make Vader look more menacing.
I know this is an old video, but I just realized how funny it would be to see you react to bloopers from the movies, if you haven't already. R2 falls over a lot.
2:29 The Darth Vader's motion actor was David Prowse, Gaxelle. James Earl Jones was voice actor only.
Man...I feel so sorry for Anakin
James Earl Jones, an American actor, who won an Oscar for his portrayal of 1920's World Boxing Champion Jack Johnson, was chosen to overdub David Prowse's voice in the Vader costume. He was chosen because of his deep booming voice and classical tembre.
When you realize both Alec Guiness and David Prowse truly were brothers and the entire cast and crew formed a family that the Force only made stronger.
Man this is so cool. The original version doesn't bother me because they were just at the beginning of creating a universe and hadn't figured everything out yet. it was also made so long ago...this might be sacrilege but I think it would be cool to redo the OT and prequels with clone war style animation
One of the best things is that you can see when Vader senses Luke after ending Obi-Wan, and he starts towards him as the blast doors slowly close, and then we hear Obi-Wan tell him to run before Vader realizes who Luke is.
I've been looking forward to this.
I’ve waited for this moment!!!! 🙌
I really enjoyed your watch along of A New Hope can't wait for Empire
I just saw a teaser trailer for the sword fight for Empire and it was made by the same production guys. I can't wait to see it.
There was almost an alterative Scene there when, Anakin lost almost all his limbs and was slowly falling slipping into the lava. The iconic scene where he was grabbing the ground and pulling him self up, Obi-Wan said " it was said you were going to destroy the Sith, not join them, bring balance to the force, not leave it to darkness" Hayden reaches out his hand ( which he does in the movie and mutters the words which are muted) and ask''s Obi-wan to " save me Master " and Obi-wan was going to reply " I will not... " in a softer tone ( < this is the part George wanted to add but the rest did not ). He declined to help him. That's why we see Obi-wan walking away from him and Anakin groaning and said his Iconic line " I hate you " Obi-wan then says " you were my brother Anakin, I loved you " < past tense cause he see's a dead man and all the wrongs he did.
James Earl Jones provides only the voice of Vader. The actor under the suit in the OT is David Prowse. A truly wonderful man.
I'm not usually a fan of tinkering around with classic movies but I really wish this could be added to the original movie.
They did it well, and with great tribute to what we see in the characters.
What i really enjoyed about this redone fight scene, is that you can really FEEL the aggression coming from Lord Vader. Like he's just smashing his saber into Obi Wan's trying to overpower him through brute strength...just pouring all of his hatred that has been building for years into his blows. And they really captured how Vader was more machine at that point...so his attacks aren't fluid..they are heavy, and brutal. But, I also liked the touch they added at the end...reminding us, that these two were close as brothers once...and that smile Obi Wan gives Vader at the end, always kills me. It's like Obi Wan needed to face Vader one last time..to have true closure, before becoming one with the Force.
General kenobi
dont worry there, i am over here emotional as well. Those of us who love Star Wars we have a VERY special place in our hearts for Luke, Lei, Anikan, Han ,chewie, yoda, etc..
When they made ANH the studios expected it to fail so they had to cut some expenses (even with the cuts GL went over budget). I think they weren't able to hire a fight choreographer to make the duel better. You'll see Empire and Jedi both are much better. In terms of technology, by the time they got to the Prequels they were able to put in more bells and whistles also to enhance the duels. This is an awesome reimagining with what we can do today.
Gaxelle: why're they doing this 😢😢😢
Me: cuz they are enemies now lol
Ur def getting a sub! 😸🤟🏼
The original trilogy was less of choreography and epic saber fighters and more about the emotions behind the fights. They then developed the lightsaber combat much more, and thus we have this recreation. So they combined the lightsaber combat with emotional effects.
The ending definitely broke my heart, especially with the music that combined with the voices from Revenge of the Sith.
*Yes, true. When thinking too much it is sad, it's still Anakin inside.*
The boy who promise to return and free his mother, but was too late.
The padwan who advanced much quicker than the rest, but despised.
The man who wanted to save his only love, but failed.
James Earl Jones was just the voice. The actor in the suit was a tall British dude.
4:02 I won't burn this time.
love how the cat is just chilling haha
Loved your reaction... very accurate. It really is sad... it all comes full circle.
It was slow in the movie because the blades were made out of glass, so the body builder playing Vader was told by Lucas not to make contact with the blades, to not break them.
"And he's on fire?!"
He's used to it, honey.
James Earl Jones was not in the suit. It was an actor named David Prowse. Jones did the voice over in two hours in Hollywood and asked his name not be in th credits as he thought he didn't do enough to deserve it.
James Earl Jones was the voice of Vader.. the guy in the suit was David Prowse
I like your reactions!
Thanks José!
You have to remember that they were limited by their special effects technology back in 1977 and didn't have the CGI capabilities that are around today.
I love your reactions
Oooo. I’m excited to see your thoughts on this
I am here late, and someone has probably already said this before: 2:23 James Earl Jones is the voice, they have another actor, David Prowse in the suit.
What gets me about the scenes, between Obi Wan and Vader...is that Obi Wan never intended to leave the Death Star alive. It was always his intent, to face his former apprentice one last time. Perhaps to gain some closure? And the smile he gives Vader at the end, yes Vader was consumed by hatred, but Obi Wan still viewed him as a friend. Oh, and the fact that they play Anakin's Dark Deeds when they come face to face...is also a nice touch. Also, you can clearly see...although slower, and more clunky...Vader still possesses the same frenzied, and ferocious fighting style of Anakin Skywalker..I'm glad they did that.
The chorography in this dual is much better than the Sequel Trilogy.
This was a great remake of the fight scene. Plus the end part where Vader storms off(no punt intended) taking Obi Wan’s lightsaber as a final insult or show there’s they little spark of an akin inside showing honor to Obi wan as a keepsake.
Yes the force is flowing through them, but, remember that it’s because of this that determines the way they are fighting. All of Darth Vader’s strikes is to kill. He’s not holding back. Yes when they were younger they somersaulted, twirled their sabres. This scene is between 2 masters of the force and the movements are efficient and deadly like 2 master swordsman from feudal Japan. Obi wan didn’t need to fight at all, he knew already that if Vader struck him down he would transform, but Obi Wan is a fighter and wanted to show Vader that he was still a Jedi to be reckoned with. It wasn’t until Obi Wan saw Luke that brought him back to his senses. Awesome reimagining and worthy of being inserted into a new version of The Last Hope.
Awesome reaction
Strong reaction. I liked it very much.
That is great
Interesting story about David Prowse, the bodybuilder-turned-actor who played a lot of movie monsters including the body performance of Darth Vader in the entire OT (except for stunts). David became kind of ostracized by Lucasfilm and was disinvited from conventions over the years. There is a documentary about it that came out in 2015 called "I Am Your Father" that tells a bit about the controversy. It's worth checking out after you finish the OT.
whoa! Interesting to hear, that will be neat to check out. thanks for suggestion
James Earl Jones was just the voice. The person in the suit was bodybuilder David Prowse. It's kinda funny when you hear just David's voice and not James's in the unedited footage.
Now this is an edit to the og I can get behind :)
One can see how they 'reimagined' some of the typical Obi-Wan moves from the prequel trilogy and clone wars. Simply amazing!
@5:56 Dam i didn't even notice til now, but Vader used the same saber technique that Dooku wounded him with at the end of Ep 2 Attack of the clones.
Insightful analysis of the fight.
My favorite Star Wars Fan films:
-SC38 Reimagined
-Vader: Shardes of the Past
-Dark Legacy
Great video like ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
regards Gaxelle!!!!!!!!!! :D
Amongst the reasons for the ... limited choreography of the original fight is the suit David Prowse was wearing to portray Vader. The original suit was very heavy and stiff, and basically kept him from lifting his arms much at all, definitely not past the shoulders, and was also difficult to see out of. Most of these issues were fixed in the shooting of Empire, hence the massive uptick in fight quality there
One of the cool things about this reimagined scene is how it foreshadows the duel between Luke and Vader on Bespin with Vader's dirty tricks of hurling things at his opponent.