Overcoming JUDGEMENT with Deleuze, Guattari, God, Nietzsche, Artaud and others,

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  • @Zentapir
    @Zentapir  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Assistent faild to write a coherent comment about this episode. But he wrote something. If you want to check it out, here it is: www.patreon.com/posts/comments-on-my-112012286?Link&

  • @christopherbettridge
    @christopherbettridge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm not sure what I was watching to find this, but I'm glad I did!

  • @Kryystoff
    @Kryystoff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What did I just watch? This might be a new form of art. Like some neo-meta-post-modern-dadism kind of stuff. Indeed very original!
    Keep on the work!

  • @ignisimber2818
    @ignisimber2818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the coolest channel I've ever come across

  • @AshleyGraetz
    @AshleyGraetz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Imagination is not real it only thinks it is." AMg

  • @alexanderjanespecter4203
    @alexanderjanespecter4203 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Try and get rid of the AI voice and you will blow up pretty soon
    You underestimate the importance of the human element.

  • @TouYubeTom
    @TouYubeTom 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    calls to be judged, innovation is dead, here comes the zentapir

  • @shrewdagency6588
    @shrewdagency6588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a simple body, I see a new video from Zentapir and I simply dash in and like auto-rhizomatically. Returning for commentary later... after time to ingest.

  • @raphaelradespiel9970
    @raphaelradespiel9970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow you're back!! Saw your videos two years ago

  • @collardr55y65
    @collardr55y65 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @Sir Sic 2:10 We need your expertise…

  • @juman6035
    @juman6035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you engage with the philosophy of deleuze and guattari in a very interesting way. quick question: how do you make your animations?

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I don't understand the question. My assistant presses record and then I talk. But if YOU wanted to do something similar, you would probably need a decent PC, Blender with too many add-ons, weeks of experimenting with stable diffusion (Confy UI, Forge) and some other programs like LivePortrait. Mixing all this together in Davinci Resolve might give you a similar result.

    • @CrustaceousB
      @CrustaceousB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😭😂🙌🙌 Sir you are hilarious ​@@Zentapir

  • @stagemaker8869
    @stagemaker8869 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the wonderful, incredibly lucid introductory explanation of the 'judgment of God' and its overcoming, with such delightful, engaging video work... Two quick comments: 1) while your reading is surely correct, there is also an element of technique, of care (so to speak) in approaching one's own becoming (levels, such as becoming-woman, becoming-animal, becoming-imperceptible; stepwise experimentation, etc.); 2) the Paypal links seems to be broken....

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much! 2) with some effort I fixed the links :-) they should work now, thanks for the feedback. 1) I wasn't so much aiming at "correct", but maybe ecactly at "becoming" ... at least an becoming-animal -woman -robot. However, the body without organs can be seen as the primary concept here, with the instability between the dissolution of structures and the relapse into hierarchies and devaluation. However, this will also be pursued further in the following episodes, like in the "Dawkins Paradox" and soon in an extensive series of videos (hopefully later this year) on the body without organs. Looking directly at "becoming" as a concept will still take some time ...
      another approach to 1): How would you approach becoming, i.e. practically or in a video?

  • @mryodak
    @mryodak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Very craftfull and inventive. Maybe not intetional, but i have found peculiar juxtapostion of the theme of escapning Gods Judgement and Christian Tetramorph iconography with exploration of notions of human nature, will to power, self-judgement and freedom.

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh, that is a great connection! Can I claim it was intentional? I would have to attribute the quote from Matthew 26:41 (on 16:52) to Luke, and we would have a reference to the ox (so that's almost the cow that was talking about the judgement)... But I will leave it as it is for now and just enjoy the unrealized but endless potential for connections 😀

  • @dying.galaxizzzzzz
    @dying.galaxizzzzzz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah yes de-oedepalize me harder

  • @HieronimBosh88
    @HieronimBosh88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm the worst of all, can you forgive me please?

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HieronimBosh88 actually: no. Forgiveness is earned. But there is a bright side, with just a little bit of commitment you might soon be one of the best ... Although the best is still relative given the average attention span around here

  • @denisovchinnikov8050
    @denisovchinnikov8050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man, you're great! fascinating job! the edit is fantastic. i wonder where do you get all the contents (e.g. music, pictures; are there only ones generated by AI in your video?)
    very interesting topics but i found myself distracted a lot of times to the imagery. i admire your creativity but IMO you should do something for the viewer to be more focused on the main subject! keep up the good work, bless :)

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But the imagery IS the main theme :-) There are so many boring repetitions on every philosophical topic without any consequence. I honestly do not care so much about understanding on a kognitive level (those who do can study philosophy), I want .... a new kind of therapy (okay, maybe first of all for me, not to die of boredom looking at all this talking about concepts)... Yeah, I dont know, most of all thanks a lot for the feedback, it is really hard to put such an episode together. But AI (and Blender) certainly help a lot...

  • @hangingthief71
    @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please see the playlist i have copied on my channel "Satan's Gospel" (a thousand plateaus: the movie) it should be watched on TH-cam music so you can see the lyrics. It is all about the lyrics but other things too, the album covers are also important. It is 444 songs(many bangers and hidden gems) long but reading between the lines to find out what happened is worth it, I promise.

    • @hangingthief71
      @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a love story
      Here is the synopsis written by deleuze and guattari:
      FROM GREY IMMINENCE TO GREY IMMANENCE
      Semiotize yourself: A child discovers a secret... it turns out to be nothing. The actor walks "like" a crab in a certain film sequence. The main character, who made the Earth scream with his pain machine, was double, articulated twice(and that did not make things any easier, people never knew which of him was present) asks himself a question, and then says, Who will answer this answer? Actually, there is no question, answers are all one ever answers.
      God is a Lobster, or a double pincer, a double bind. To express is always to sing the glory of God. Language is not life; it gives life orders. Life does not speak; it listens and waits. Every stratum is a judgment of God. Death, death; it is the only judgment. The verdict. But the order-word is also something else, inseparably connected: it is like a warning cry or a message to flee; life must answer the answer of death, by making flight act and create, to bring forth the order-word of the order-word.
      The prophet, , the Earth- the Deterritorialized- is the main figure in this assemblage; he needs a sign to guarantee the word of God. Your only choice will be between a goat's ass and the face of the god, between sorcerers and priests. The prophet, charged with electricity, with pure intensity, follows the line of deterritorialization, protected by a sign allowing him to escape death, Existence in reprieve, indefinite postponement. The prophet does not know how to talk, God puts the words in his mouth. The true man never ceases to betray God just as God betrays man. The prophet, unlike the seer-priest, is fundamentally a traitor and thus fulfills God's order better than anyone who remained faithful could. Unlike the seer, the prophet interprets nothing.
      Every time desire is betrayed, cursed, uprooted from its field of immanence, a priest is behind it. The priest cast the triple curse on desire: Facing north, the priest said, Desire is lack (how could it not lack what it desires?). Then, facing south, the priest carries out the second sacrifice, named masturbation. The priest carried out the third sacrifice, phantasy or the one hundred twenty days, while the men of the East chanted: Yes, we will be your phantasy, your ideal and impossibility, yours and also our own. The priest did not turn to the west. He knew that in the west lay a plane of consistency, but he thought that the way was blocked by the columns of Hercules, that it led nowhere, but that is where desire was lurking, west was the shortest route east, as well as to the other directions.
      Let us return to the stagemaker, the magic bird. He sings perched on his singing stick located just above the display ground he has prepared, his song, his refrain, can be heard from a great distance, interweaving his own notes and those of other birds. He could have spoken in his own name but there is no question of that: Silence people, prevent them from speaking, and above all, when they do speak, pretend they haven't said a thing. The Wolf-Man keeps howling: Six wolves! Seven wolves! Freud says, ... ... ...
      That is why the Wolf-Man feels so fatigued: he's left lying there with all his wolves in his throat, and all those libidinal values on his body without organs.
      Back to the stagemaker: one of its acts consists in discerning and causing to be discerned both sides of the leaf. This act is connected to the determinism of the "toothed" beak. A dentist told the Wolf-Man that he "would soon lose all his teeth because of the violence of his bite" It's no use talking; you first have to change telescopes, mouths, and teeth, all of the segments. Patti Smith sings the Bible of the American dentist: Don't go for the root, follow the canal.
      One day (what will have happened?), a far-seer will abandon his or her segment and start walking across a narrow overpass above the dark abyss, will break his or her telescope and depart on a line of flight to meet a blind Double approaching from the other side. Speaking in tongues to bring this assemblage of the unconscious to the light of day: select the whispering voices, gather the tribes and secret idioms from which I extract a schizophrenic cogito that makes self-consciousness the incorporeal transformation of an order-word, the cuer and the cued.
      We are no longer ourselves. We have been aided, inspired, multiplied. Each will know his own. To attribute something I call my Self to a subject is to overlook this working of matters, and the exteriority of their relations. It is to fabricate a beneficent God to explain geological movements. correctives are necessary to undo the dualisms we had no wish to construct but through which we pass, the furniture we are forever rearranging.
      #godl #kideternity #archangel #diomand #lastsupper #immortality #reincarnation #followyourbliss #intoeternity #boethius #paracelsus
      (The hashtags were autorecommended lol, we are everywhere, all intelligence is artificial)

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      looks impressive and thx for the synopsis, because i checked out the playlist and i can only hope i will have someday enough spare time to listen even to a some of these songs :-D

    • @hangingthief71
      @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Zentapir yep, the songs tell a multilinear and maybe even retrocausal true story. For example the first song, luddites and lambs "yes, I broke the telescope twice" is sort of the final answer, it answers both of the final songs "breaking the wheel" which is at the end, and the true final song which is located somewhere towards the middle, as well as the synopsis and numerous other answers in the story. I am hesitant to say what this really is and am hoping the text can speak for itself, not to mention the numerous other songs(the tracings I didn't plug back into the map) it was algorithmic self-semiophagy for 9 months or so, probably still but I don't interpret things anymore. My innermost thoughts and feelings were being answered, in the affirmative or turned against me in the worst way, by the songs I was being recommended, and im talking new releases. I did what I needed to do with this so I'm not going to bother looking back at those until I have a reason.
      Weird things happened irl too, especially with my heart, I went looking for answers and I have this theory about electrophysiology- spaceweather /biogeomagnetics- the machinic unconscious that seems like it's on to something. Like what the heartmath institute and certain quantum fringe scientists are talking about.
      But what do I know? People will catch on eventually.

    • @hangingthief71
      @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh and I'm leaving this here as a clue 🗝️❤ for people trying to figure it out, Charles Sanders Peirce had alot to do with the "semiotize yourself" part. The bit about the diary wasn't nothing until pages were burnt.

    • @whowereweagain
      @whowereweagain 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess my synopsis disappeared, oh well, I'm posting here because this is our main account so the furniture is all up to date on the playlist here. Now I don't have to think about this so much, I hope other people do while I recover. Yes, I'm a genius, I'm an expert, it's all true and nothing at all. good luck ❤

  • @hwithumlaut8288
    @hwithumlaut8288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alright for real tho your such a judge. It makes me feel really insulted.
    I love you!

    • @aCuriousCow
      @aCuriousCow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Feeling insulted is still better than feeling nothing :-) At least that's my approach

  • @hangingthief71
    @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:11 hey! I have the miracle answer! You're just answering our miracle and you don't even know it yet! It weird's me out! Study Satan's good playlist, NOW, this aint no joke! You will see what i mean.🎉

  • @jasoncrow6048
    @jasoncrow6048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just finished half of it and going to continue the rest tomorrow. So far I'm oddly dissatisfied with the amount of unrelated bs...

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am curious If the second half will give the hole meaning or connection... While this season may be about increasing the amount of (hopefully related) bs, i opened a thread on the discord dgqc server (on ask-anything), to discuss the theory

    • @jasoncrow6048
      @jasoncrow6048 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Zentapir First of all! I can't believe you gave me a shoutout in the credits...that makes me very happy. I don't even know you, but to have motivated you like that is something I feel very deeply. Your welcome :P You are now part of my history!
      Talking about the rest of the video. I need to highlight how strangely creative your work has become. It was always creative and as a Filmmaker I know how long these kinds of videos take to do, so wow! Crazy good job!
      Talking about the contents of the video. It almost feels like you are being so oddly complicated and fast that nobody should even get the possibility to seriously comprehend the bigger picture not be able to reflect or critique you or it. If this is supposed to be a lesson, shouldn't it be easier, more comprehensive and overall more structured? It's very unclear to me what your mission is. Do you want to be polarizing?
      As a big fan of Ghoete, Hegel and Wilhelm Salber and his morphological psychology, I think it's absolutely true to think of really any phenomena as something in change and emergence. But I can't seem to understand what judgement and god has to do with it, is just to showcase dogma and that one should free themselves of ideological identity?
      Anyways, have a beautiful weekend!

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You were there from the beginning and really took an interest in the ideas. I was thinking about the feedback that made the difference, and you were the first one really engaging:-) On the other question, I can't understand how philosophy or any theory (on youtube and elsewhere) can be presented in such a boring way. I just strive for something that I myself find entertaining and inspiring. and right now, honestly, those are just experiments to improve my ability to express my ideas better....

  • @ReiRidingSolo
    @ReiRidingSolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your insights are wonderful, BUT you are growing slowly because you can't choose just one avatar or voice and add a bunch of irrelevant stuff? The visuals are grotesque and hard to look at for me. I almost stopped watching, but forwarded to the actual info. You are talking about very important things but make it a bit of joke with your visuals, so viewers will not take your videos seriously. Keep it up, but think about the viewer.

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it, although I (strongly) disagree 🙂 I am not (from my point of view) choosing anything. There was one iteration of a zentapir talking about philosophy. It was good, but boring and there was no growth. I am growing (somehow fast, somehow handicapped - but the reasons for that I would consider "outside")... and while I seem to be complaining about a small community, the last episode was exactly about that, that it is really about you, your becoming, your growth. And while you could say that I could reach you better with a more streamlined appearance, I really could not. I really have no important insights to share, everything you see has grown (quite differently than expected) while I have struggled to find a form for it. In fact, I was surprised myself at what I saw in the end. So for me it is important AND fun (but no joke). But : I take "hard to watch" and "almost stopped" very seriously. And I watched the video again to see what I missed. And I saw nothing that I don't see in everyday life. There are slaughtered animals in every supermarket, there is a crucified person on a cross around every corner where I live, and these are not even the most horrible things I notice in everyday life, because I hear every weak how people (mostly with problems after cancer treatment, but also with other handicaps) are treated. I don't think I will be able to express something like this in a less grotesque way (it will probably get more grotesque). But there will be trigger warnings (and with your feedback, probably more of them). So thanks again for your feedback. This was more personal than usual, so I hope you can somehow make sense of my response... And one more thing: Responses to responses usually get lost here. So for anything that goes beyond one comment i recommend the discord.gg/dgqc server (I check in there from time to time, but it can still take days or weeks for me to respond).

    • @ReiRidingSolo
      @ReiRidingSolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Zentapir dude, if you're just making it for yourself, then all power to you! But then you can't complain about the channel growing slowly. There is not enough content about Deleuze on YT so I was very excited to hear your views. And yes, you do have insights, whether you are just video journaling or actually trying to help others. Give yourself some credit and appreciate your work and the value of your ideas. The point is, deciding what your channel is and it's purpose is important because foundations of belief are what we build our identities on. So it's about your purpose and intention. When you established that, you have guidance for how to express your message to the world.
      If your discord is anything like your videos. I politely decline.

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don't know the DGQC discord you should really check it out. It is nothing like my channel and not connected to me in any way :-)... It is about deleuze/guattari & philosophy

    • @ReiRidingSolo
      @ReiRidingSolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Zentapir LOL I'm way too old for discord!! Keep it up though.

  • @timv9223
    @timv9223 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you a post modernist? You sound like a nihilist

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, you must be confusing me with someone else. I am a Zentapir. But it's not really about who I am, but what the lessons trigger, initiate and effect. So I would be more interested in what your ideas and impulses were :-)

    • @timv9223
      @timv9223 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zentapir yeah I watched your other videos and you’re clearly influenced by the post modernists

    • @franekjanowski6838
      @franekjanowski6838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timv9223 Not the post-modern neo marxian mob again..

  • @Action_Savage_
    @Action_Savage_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't know who you are or what this is, but please keep doing it 🫡

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Action_Savage_ it is really not about who I am, but about you and the question if you are a good one 😀

  • @franekjanowski6838
    @franekjanowski6838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deterritorialized me rather swiftly > amazing work! subscribed B)🟩

    • @Zentapir
      @Zentapir  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's great to hear 🙂 ... remember to reterritorialise with care!

    • @franekjanowski6838
      @franekjanowski6838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zentapir Absolutely 🙂