Sooooo what about Sandra and rob being the two representatives before Tony’s win? 🤔 I mean they had statues of them on the island. The reason he said tony is a good representative of the show is because of how he played not because he is a white man.
soccerguy325 yeah I think he is too but the man gets so tan once he starts playing 😂. point is, rob is white and he WAS the representative of the show and he a beautiful white wife with beautiful white children. But Hatch never complained about rob and his family being the main representatives of survivor.
Rich, a man who has a beautiful family and works to save lives of others everyday is a great representative of Survivor. And played the best game. Not sure what your point is here.
He's mainly just upset that Jeff, as host and executive producer, holds up the straight, white guy as the "perfect representative" of Survivor after they pulled their offer to him to appear on season 40 after the incidents from season 39 occurred to play it safe and stating that Hatch "does not represent what Survivor is". I think Richard is way off base on his statements, because Tony is a great representative regardless of his skin color or sexual orientation. What Richard has been right about in other videos, is that the producers and executives control everything that happens in these shows. From allowing him to compete naked causing the Sue incident on All Stars, when they could have said nope, clothes or disqualified; to what happened last season. They are always there, they can stop or allow whatever they want, and edit and air it however they want...and that pisses Richard off. They continue to portray him in a manner he feels is unfair, then cast him aside, and he's acting out like a scorned lover to try and take them down any way he can.
Can you give some examples or evidence of what you’re talking about so we can understand you’re point, because it just sounds like you’re ranting with no evidence
This is an interesting take, but in the end, I think it's you, Richard, who is projecting race onto Jeff's comments. I have a lot of problems with Jeff, many of which you have pointed out on this very channel, but I think Jeff is just a sucker for families in any capacity. He's treated Cirie and her family with similar amounts of love and praise with which he treated Tony the other night; I think he would've treated Jeremy and his large family the exact same way had he turned out to be the second two-time winner. It's also worth noting that this particular finale allowed for each finalist to be surrounded by their families as the votes were being read; this hasn't happened in any of the first 39 seasons and made it a little easier for Jeff to make those comments about Tony's family, especially at the end of a season as big as this. Again, I think Probst would've reacted the same way had it been Jeremy or Sandra and their families. I think it's you who are projecting.
The primary difference is happiness versus depression during these uncertain times...clearly we are witnessing the diatribes of a deeply unhappy person.
@@CadeCYC That may be true but I don't think it's due to the quarantine. Richard has been through a lot. I hope he's doing alright but I'm sure he'll get through it either way. He should make a video on it.
We get it. You’re hurt you weren’t chosen to play. But expressing your hurt feelings in this manner isn’t exactly gracious. Also....can you give “specific” examples of racism and bigotry by Jeff? I don’t doubt it exists....but simply saying something is so has no weight to it without specific examples.
I listened carefully to the entire video, and I have the same question you do, @JulieLockhart. I didn’t hear any specific examples of bigotry and racism, either. Also, in what ways are contestants exploited? What are some examples of this? I just don’t see what Richard is seeing.
@@gromitmuggromitmuggromitmug idk about the racism but every time you see a person on camera, their being exploited. Their like-ability, convos, challenges. It’s all for the show to make money and only for the contestants to have a smidge of hope they’ll win the milli.
yeah... rolling my eyes at this video... if michelle had won, would jeff have said the same thing? - probably... it's just something you say on TV. ...but would rich have said the same thing? dunno....
Bitter, bitter, bitter Betty. I get it you hate Jeff Probst, he is still not gutted over it. Tony deserved the win and did not win because he is a "white man" with a beautiful family. SMH
He's been bashing Jeff all season hiding behind his commentary...this was his last attempt to do so...It could've been white Tony, Black Jason, Latina Edna...He's been waiting to conclude with this rant....sickening, embarrassing..and he needs to take it down....
Unless someone rich guy buys the show and we get better producers. If I were Bill Gates, first thing I would do is buy Survivor and take over and bring this guy back to play.
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qc Is that really the first thing you would do? That is terribly irresponsible with your money, and also Bill Gates donates tons to charity.
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qc Lol, the show has and will continue to succeed without him. Hatch is not an integral part of the show's success. There is no need to go out of your way to bring him back.
Did Probst even say Tony represents Survivor? He would be hyping up whoever won. I think you're looking for something that isn't there. You're honestly coming off as bitter now. I'm not even a big Probst fan and love to see rightful criticism. But this is ridiculous.
Tony says he represents himself as the winner of S 40 just as each other winner represents his/her season. Sandra is the only one out there claiming she is Queen of Survivor. So, if there is anyone to pick apart it would be Sandra. But like Tony she does have a very good personality and is quite likeable. But what is it that makes someone as a "representative" of Survivor. I guess it's Jeff's approval of that like who he seems to favor like: Boston Rob, Sandra, Parveti. I don't have the answer but Sandra and Rob SEEM to be the ones that represent Survivor. Rob basically has two wins as Amber pointed out. Rob was really the winner that season and not Amber as far as Play goes.
What Jeff meant by saying Tony is a great representative of the show is how great of a player he is and how he is able to adapt. He is the face of the craziness, out of the box, politicking of the game.
Rich, it would have taken a lot less words and time to simply say what you mean, that you are calling out Jeff and Survivor production as racist, sexist and homophobic. And if you're making those accusations it would be appreciated if you came out with specifics instead of filling up 13 minutes saying what could have said in 2. At the end of the day, the fact is that you have a massive personal animosity towards Jeff Probst and Survivor production due to their decision to not include you on season 40. And any opinion you have that involves them is massively colored by that animosity. You need to behave in a more mature manner and accept responsibility. They were never going to cast you on season 40 due to the PR nightmare it would have been after the Dan incident due to your incident with Sue in season 8. Regardless of your defenses (and I have watched your past videos about it), regardless of whether you are in the right or not on what happened in season 8, CBS was never going to take on that PR nightmare. You are the only person who has failed to accept it. I am sure it hurts that you were not on the season, but you need to move on and get over it. Your personal animosity towards Jeff is damaging your credibility and I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to bother being subscribed to your channel.
Rich, we’ve established that Jeff and the rest of production’s decisions are pretty sketchy, but this is just literally grasping at straws. Nobody’s gonna go out and commit harmful acts toward people who’re underprivileged because Jeff said Tony is a good representative for survivor.
Rich, when you're making allegations like these, you HAVE to expound on them. When you're speaking in vague terms, it seems as if you've either a) fallen off the ideological deep end, or b) become very, very bitter. This series has a bevy of minority men and women who have been hailed as some of the great players of all-time. It seems as though you've not spoken to Probst in years, so I wonder how you can have any new information that supports your beliefs that Jeff has not changed. And even when it comes to the original belief that he's always been a racist, homophobic, sexist bigot, just go into the specifics. Don't mention names, just mention events. The problem now is that, as you continue to speak in vague terms, you lessen the impact and believe-ability of your eventual specific allegations, as you truly just seem bitter.
Very well put. I generally love Rich's perspective but this video (and maybe a couple others) felt like he was going out of his way to be vague. He does appear to be passionate about what he's not telling us, but from what I can detect, I'm not in agreement with what I 'think' he's saying.
@@jakinajakina1974 I'm not sure what you're insinuating. This isn't a fake profile - I've had it since 2011 - and I'm not hiding my identity to come after him. I think Rich is a very intelligent person, who just so happens to be succumbing to bitterness in this video
Dude. We GET that you hate Probst and whatever your reasons, that's your privilege. We get that you've met and worked with his professional side and we haven't. But - can we move on now? We're tired of it.
Could you give some examples? You use a lot of vague terms like "abused", "exploited", "taken advantage of", You point out people who are guilty of these things but you don't give any examples of exactly how they have done this.
i think this doesn’t hold any water. If the network was racist, how would Sandra be considered The Queen, and literally become idolized within the lore of the show.
I agree that Richard's arguments are too vague and it seems they are so on purpose. I don't know if the show is necessarily racist, but it is definitely not diverse enough, and there were many instances where the only black people get eliminated very quickly. And a few in which white contestants showed distrust of black people.
@@DaedalusLabyrinth right. Ofc the show isny diverse enough. But most shows arent. Is that a good thing? No, but we are moving in the right direction. Lol and I highly doubt the producers and workers are racist. Its just how things kind of works.
@@kevindragneel285 Unfortunately, "we are moving in the right direction" is often used as an excuse when one is not doing enough. Maybe the show is a true representation of America, and the producers cast accordingly... if they cast 13% african-american contestants, they must also cast xx% racist contestants. I am perhaps exaggerating to make a point. However, take Millenials vs Gen X, as an example of what I said in my previous comment: the 5 contestants representing minorities had all been voted out after the 7th (!) tribal council!
If anything it seems to me production goes way out of their way to represent alternative lifestyles. One would think the thing they dread most is another straight white guy winning. Thanks for sharing though.
@Ian Stanley That's the opposite of Richard's argument. He's saying Jeff LOVES that a white man with a traditional family won. Rich is arguing Jeff wants to frame Survivor as a show for and about family, and thus is pleased to say Tony and his family are representative of exactly what Survivor is about. I believe Richard's argument is complete and utter bs.
@Ian Stanley I listened to the whole thing again paying close attention. He is saying that while hypocritically portraying themselves as extreme social liberals, Probst and production in general, in reality celebrate Tony more for his win than they would a POC, LBTQ or similar minority. That is what Hatch is saying. This is obviously not the case in my opinion. Had a minority or alternative lifestyle person won, obviously they would have been celebrated even more.
You are a very logical man, but this post is highly emotional without solid logic or examples to back it up. Not accusing you of being wrong, but your arguments are normally more sound. Keep the videos coming!
does he really think that if Natalie had won he wouldn't have talked about her being a 'beautiful representation of the survivor winners'? Honestly? Was he upset when Jeremy won? Did he ignore the fact that Jeremy was a family man? When the family visit happened he talked about Jeremy and his amazing family as much as he did anyone elses....
“Now listen, I don’t want this to take away from Tony’s win or his families happiness, but white man and white family bad. Seeing people that look like them be complimented is absolutely DESPICABLE and needs to stop.”
PBG, exactly. You can only degrade the white human. You must not compliment nor lift up the white human. White human bad. And this is coming from Hatch. A white human. Which makes Hatch a race traitor. I loath race traitors.
@@gavinmacfadyen2669 why would Survivor have 18 black lpeople and 2 white people when America is 70 percent white and 12 percent black? 95 percent black Survivor cast doesn't represent the US. Humans are tribal and like to hang out and watch things in them with people that look like them. For some reason only white people have to be sorry for this. Unfortunaltely for people like you America is stil majority white. I'm not sorry for this. I'm not playing you're "ashamed to be white" nonsense.
@@SouthernSkeptic amen to that. All this BS about being ashamed of the way God made us is insanity. I'm proud to be white because it's how I was born, but it doesn't make me inheiritly racist. Black people are proud to be black, does that make them racist? NO!
@@kronickoliosis6115 He should be allowed to voice his perspective, but when he demonizes and allegates that survivor which prides itself on being progressive and accepting by giving a plethora of different xenotypes the platform to share their, he has a right to be criticized for it especially when his evidence holds very little evidence.
Sorry but you can’t make huge claims like this without any examples. I’ve always been a fan of yours and would have loved to see you on winners at war but videos like this do not help your case. I was subsribed after you made your 2nd or 3rd video but now will be unsubscribing for now, sorry.
I think Hatch’s bitterness towards Jeff Probst and his bitterness towards not being included on season 40 is clouding his judgements. First off, I feel like Hatch is taking those comments made by Jeff Probst about Tony being a good representative winner the wrong way. As an African American myself, I didn’t take Probst’s comments as meaning that Tony is a good representative of the show solely because he’s white. I interpreted Probst’s comments as saying that Tony is a good representation of the show for reasons such as: someone who’s a family man, and someone who plays the game of Survivor like there’s no tomorrow(Probst respects). I’m almost certain that had Jeremy won the game, Probst would’ve been singing his praises as well. Another problem with Richard’s statements is the fact that he barely provides any examples when asserting his strong accusations upon Probst. Hatch is certainly never going to be invited to play US survivor again; I also feel like he’s ruining his chances for potential invitations to play International Survivor as well. Nobody wants to deal with the baggage that comes with Hatch as both a player and a person.
i really wish he'd give some examples to demonstrate his points. just simply saying jeff is a bigot without any evidence is difficult to get on board with. i'm open to listening to what hatch has to say because he definitely knows more about the behind the scenes than the fans, but if he's not gonna give examples then i don't see the point.
He doesn't have any. Hatch told Jeremy this season what a beautiful family he had too. The shole season was about family and the kids on the family visit. Hatch threw shit at the wall here. It didn't stick to said wall.
You babbled on for awhile about being a victim but never actually said why, how or what exactly has been done to make you a victim. If your pissed you got left out of season 40. All you have to do is take accountability to season 8 and what happened with you and Sue. In todays current age they arent going to let a wild card like yourself back on the show after that and it has ZERO to do with sexual preference or race. It has everything to do with a persons actions. Your actions.
There is 0% chance he will ever be cast again. CBS will not allow it. Not because they are righteous, but because they don't want the PR nightmare it would be. And well, after all these attacks he has made on Jeff and production there is 0% chance they would ever include him again regardless.
Rich will never play again, these videos make that obvious. Early on when I started watching his content I thought maybe he'd be alright going back on the show but now I dont want to see him play again. If he has these feelings about the show and Jeff there's no way that doesn't come out on the show if he's there, I personally don't want to see that. Do I think Jeff needs to step away from producing and having his hands in everything survivor? Absolutely but that won't happen and the show will more than likely die a slow death because of his disconnect with fans. Rich on the other hand would be like a nuclear bomb and he doesn't hold his tongue so that would be ugly on the show.
Richard is the best Survivor player in history. He was a big big threat before Sue incident. He was playing the game on another level we'll never know what Richard Hatch is able to accomplish in a fair second shot. I see that season over and over again, All Stars Was being played by Rich in a different way. Rich was about to add a new layer to the game.
It's sad to see you reach this low.. This is clearly projection of hatred on a natural human interaction. What Jeff said was going to be said to anyone. It's as simple as saying hello to anyone. If anything, read the comments. I have yet to see people divided on this one. Maybe you have to recheck yourself. Really, it also makes whatever you say really taken with a grain of salt, if this is the type of mentality we are listening to.
Thats sort of Rich’s point, though. The decision makers cannot fathom having Rich in the game because he holds them accountable for their abusive and disgusting tactics. Richard, I have binged almost every video on your channel and the urgency in your voice is spot on. Probst and the rest of the decision makers have been conducting business these ways for years and I also agree that it has been completely obvious. Thank you for everything you do for the Survivor community and beyond. It’s a travesty that you have to sacrifice your goodwill with the program to get these points across.
Quickest dislike and unsubscribe ever. If Probst is so obviously racist, show us some examples maybe? He has been on tv for 20 years, surely u can find a better example than him saying Tony has a beautiful family.
Nah. He probably just based this video on what he thought the majority agreed with, because he thinks people are represented by the media. He may very well self-reflect and/or get advise on how to damage control this disaster and be a better TH-camr for it. I can't wait for his next vid tbh. :)
Didn’t Probst react the same way when Jeremy won Cambodia? Probst loves families, he loves sob stories, he loves things that make good television. Also, when he talked about survivor couples at the All Stars reunion, did he not mention your relationship as well? He could’ve left you out, but he didn’t. He acknowledged your relationship as much as he did Ethan and Jenna.
Probst may make bad creative decisions from time to time, but complimenting somebody on their family and saying he's a great representative for Survivor (which he clearly is, the fan base loves him!) does not mean that Probst is being racist. Can anyone take a compliment at face value these days? The Richard Hatch I know is a straight shooter, not somebody who concocts in order to bring race into the equation where it is clearly irrelevant.
when I subscribed I was looking forward to a perspective of a former player not tied to promotions or sponsors to the show. This was disappointing.first, I am part of the LGBT community myself so I am not coming In "privalaged" or whatever. Probst saying he's a good rep for the show is what it is since Tony played the game well as you mentioned.The family was there as he just won the game so it was a complement and maybe a nod to them to supporting Tony by letting him play and allowing the family and story to be shared (family visit, reading of the votes,etc). we don't know! Family meant a lot to Tony through the show and we get to see his family at the end of it all. Jeff said the same thing to Jeremy and talked about his family the same way when Jeremy won second chance. You obviously have a chip on your shoulder and are taking everything to an extreme. I don't if it's to cause "buzz" and get more views or reactions. Or you are low on content because the season is over and we don't know if 41 is coming? but there is no evidence to show any of these issues are true. If you are you going to make videos accusing people of being racist or homophobic get some facts down instead of repeating the same things different ways with no evidence.
Absolutely. And also being LGBTQ+ , I find his victimhood & baseless arguments worthy of the deluge of comments clearly received. Will he hear any of it though? Doesn’t seem likely.
Whether or not you have a point... your verbiage and tone is undermining your idea. Sometimes you do that... you exaggerate to make a point. People will only see it as bitterness over your omission from 40. Dropping hints and offhand comments would have been a better strategy.
But what if he doesn't see it as exaggeration? What if he's trying to communicate your his points realistically? I personally cannot like or dislike this video because I am also not sure whether he has a point. I wish he would have spent more time addressing concrete examples rather than repeating how much Tony deserved the win.
@@AnnikaAvenue It is not about whether HE feels it is exaggeration. It is the perception that many, if not most, in the audience will have. Therefore rendering his intentions as ineffective. To get across something this "radical", you have to introduce it with a calmer tone.
please give examples how players are abused unnecessarily. I do not do social media and only read a few you tube comments. I really would like to know why you keep on this subject...
i feel a certain bigotry tword parents who have family and kids as opposed to single people. I have a brother who needs financial help constantly as he spends money like crazy yet single me is financially responsible and every thing revols around his family and their financial problems. My brother would get a cash windfall and spend it on a trip and 1 month later be destitute with credit card debt..
@@JSmith380 I would like to give him a chance to give examples as we asked.. Why would he support a show that treats people as it supposedly does even though he likes survivor as a game..
@@JSmith380 i still want to know specific examples as well as power bar on survivor amazon- big mystery even though rich was not there- rich does express thoughts clearly
@@JSmith380 Because his opinions are in reaction to him being removed from the cast of season 40 and his personal anger at Jeff because of it. If he was included on the cast this video would not exist.
Jeff Probst surely postured with that gender bias thing, that's for sure. If Tony and his family had been black, you'd probably say the reunion was so short because Jeff's Racist. XD Better do some introspection on your bias bro.
I dont believe that Hatch was discrediting Tonys Win. Correct me if Im wrong Rich. He was just saying that Jeff is not truely a liberal in character and belief. CBS is trying to put forward an image of a white-picket fence, PG-13, and a silly cartoon character. No offense Tony.
You're really reaching here.....you continue to say it has nothing to do with Tony and his family, while you continue to call them out...How would you like Jeff to congratulate them?....His words at the end, which was the shortest in series history, could've been said to any of the winners....just one more dig at Jeff, which really was the reason for your seasons commentary, that has nothing to do Tony's winning...you're way off base here.....sexism, abuse, discrimination, Les Mooves, exploitation.....White Tony, and his beautiful white family..talk about using terminology to sway your audience..Bitter Betty about not being asked back this season....not a good look my friend..If it's so exploitative, and abusive, why were so eager to attend?....😕
Whoever "Dante Luna" is needs to learn to edit this guy's rambling down to a 2-minute video. Who's gonna watch 13 minutes of this? Or an HOUR for a finale recap?
@We call on your blessings Not so funny thing is... PROBST HAS A GENDER BIAS! All these winners are well aware of what fans say about them and other players on social media and everything Sarah said is 100% true. Yes she played an inferior game to Tony, everyone did. I think Sarah was finally commenting about the backlash she got on how she won Game Changers. Natalie coming into camp after her win back challenge and saying everyone on EoE is saying how Tony is controlling the game woke Sarah up.
Christopher Thomson If I may voice my opinion, the reason in my mind that Sarah got hate was because the winner of the season was not Cirie. Additionally, it was because Cirie was “voted out” in a pretty unfair way. Many fans wanted Cirie to win survivor at some point and she was incredibly close three times out of four. Typically I’ve noticed that if there is a big twist in a finale episode, (Such as Cirie’s default elimination in Game Changers, final four fire making twist in HvHvH, Chris returning from extinction and winning, etc.) it will often leave a bitter taste in the mouth of fans for seasons that were very good otherwise. I believe that this is why Sarah received hate. I do not believe that Jeff has bias towards Tony. In the scenario that there was, the fact that it was in an online call, and the fact that Tony was the only one of the three finalists that had kids present is the reason that Jeff commented on Tony’s family. Not because of any form of bias. If I missed the point you were trying to address, I’m sorry. But I tried to answer in a way that responds to how I perceived your statement.
@@davidg8309 Of course voice your opinion and I like what you said. The gender bias I am referring to is more about what Sarah was saying at tribal council, not about Probst during the reading of the votes crowning the winner. I agree that Probst made that comment because Tony is the only one out of the 3 that had their own family. I never thought that was favoritism towards Tony or white men. He was the winner of the season. Because of the nature of crowning the winner being over Zoom, Tony was able to have his family with him instead of in the stands. I also 100% agree with you about those finale episode twists that either eliminate a fan favorite, season leading favorite player or it brings a player back right at the end when that person ends up winning it. I love Cirie and it's a shame she never won any of her seasons. (I have many other favorites from that Game Changers cast) Cirie is one of the best to never win. I recently watched all the Survivor live Instagram videos when a previous player takes over Survivor's Instagram to talk about the episode as it airs. Cirie was one of the few chosen to do it. Obviously tells us how much CBS Survivor loves her.
Blessings, yep. She was delusional all season thinking she could beat Tony. When Natalie informed her that wasn't the case, she started yelling "But, but wahmen."
Man I dont think Jeff is a racists piece of shit like u describe him. In reality a lot of people have inate "isms" in their mind. Its normal. Plus tony does represent a really beautiful family.
I’m having a hard time understanding what the point of this video is. I wish you could have cited specific examples of “abuse” you think “Jeff, and the Executives” have done. Otherwise, I’m not sure what you are trying to express in this video. Also, I’m not so sure about racism, homophobia, bigotry, etc. As I recall, the very first winner of Survivor was a overweight naked gay guy... 🧐
Game Over? I dont think theres any chance you are goning to play again after the things you have been saying on this channel, theres just no way back now and supprised theres no slander suit looming, it all seems a dangerous game you are playing. Expect this channel to fold soon also if it was just created as a platform to rant. Just for the record, im not the biggest Jeff fan. A few other thoughts, Tony didnt need to be white straight male to win game, coulda been any color etc, anybody that watched the show can see he clearly ran things and played much better then the people that made the merge stage. Sarah on the other hand, i believe, tried to use cheap tactics to influence the jury ( the Hiliary C. maneuver, vote for me because ima a woman card) after being rather cocky in pregame interviews about her being the best survivor player, and ingame thinking she was running everything, did she forget she herself was blindsided on a couple of votes by Tony, voting out Sophie !
You want to be considered such a deep thinker yet you just regurgitate tired old points that don't even apply to this situation. I get you've been hurt but jesus christ get over it
I haven't even heard what you have to say this time . . . yet. . . I have to ask WHAT is your problem with this man and can't you deal with it directly? Are you trying to get closure? I am not being negative I am trying to understand.
Not everyone is evil, not every moment should be analyzed. You do not like Jeff. you feel he owes you something because of the mistakes you have made in life. He is not perfect nor an angel. but chill. You are just looking for others mistakes. Tony Represents a great spirit for the game of survivor, that's all. Just because it is not you that is the billboard of survivor like a Boston Rob, Sandra or Tony doesn't mean it is wrong. just because people think different to you does not make them wrong. Also those players would school you. The game has evolved. Your just milking your 15min of fame. I like your confidence, it is just some of your opinions verge on delusion for me. just my 15 cents on the matter.
I don't agree with you Rich, I think you may be seeing things through your own filter here as opposed to how things actually are. Jeremy was a great example of an African American family man, Survivor got right behind him and he was taken out early because he was so likeable. Reed Kelly gave one of my favourite speeches of all time and I didn't see any exclusions in terms of filming with his partner Josh Canfield. Sandra, icon, won twice. It may be something that happens in production off camera but I've seen equality on Survivor, gender and ethnicity inclusive from the comforts of my couch, since S1E1. It is a shame you weren't included to play Winners at War, I wish you had been. I respect this video but I think it could have spent more time in the editing room.
He think tony is a good representative of survivor cause he won twice/“the biggest season” and as well as he is wracky and fun to watch also back on the winning twice part it’s just like all the times he brought Sandra up because she won twice also cerie (a black women) seems to be one of he’s favourite players and Boston rob has some what colours really seems like he is his favourite Also on the Jeff being a sexist bigot part he brought his own bigotry up himself that tribal by himself and the stuff he was saying was very small and badly even true that was him admitting to a flaw and now he wants to work at it It’s almost like u r(rich) r bitter that you didn’t become the host or something
I am having a hard time following what you are saying and you would argue that I am slow or close minded or that I am part of the problem, but we can find “proof by perspective” in all things that everyone is trying to wrong someone else. I believe the phrase is “grasping at straws.” It seems that you are bitter. I still respect you Hatch and will still watch your videos but I don’t see it in this case. Just my opinion.
You know I might believe you if you used actual examples. How is Jeff exploiting them, by painting people as characters? That is reality TV, it is impossible not to, and still have an entertaining show. This just seems like a personal feud between Hatch and Probst. If Tony is a great person with a great family than what is wrong with Jeff saying that. What should Jeff do and say, “Tony is not the winner we want, but the winner we get!” Ridiculous!
Your channel used to be interesting, but now I think you have lost most of your credibility. I can understand being upset at production, but 17 other winners didn’t come back, and they’ve handled with grace. I didn’t necessarily agree with everything you had been saying, but at least you used to have some reasons behind it, which made it interesting. Now you just sound very bitter and nasty. You just lost my subscription
Tocimah he would have approached Jeff first and told him he hates him. Then he would align with Ben because he has a crush on him. Then during the family visit Rich would see Ben’s wife. He would write her name down at tribal council.
Why do people have to bring race and sexism into everything? Survivor has given the survivor win to gay people, different races, both genders, it is the fairest game possible. Richard should know better then anyone, back in 2000 he a gay man won survivor. Sandra was exploited and she’s a Latina women. I would say society rewards the opposite. Society loves to see a gay man, a women win, etc. Idk where you’re living but idc if Jeff calls men by their last name (if that’s a bro thing who cares) or when Sarah said she got hate for her win because she played hard and was a a women? Tong got just as much hate and he’s a man. Overall survivor is not racist and you have no evidence to support that it is you just ramble for a long time.
Richard with all due respect this video is so confusing. It’s a whole lot of nothing. How he can exploit his family when at we are quarantine and of course your family should be on camera with you. They are the reason he was out there to play. I seriously try to see you point of view but there’s nothing there.
I think is funny how he thinks he will do good socially in survivor but its doing a HORRIBLE job at increasing his chances to even get in the game again. Seems like he cant help himself but to speak his mind
Hatch, I’m halfway through this video & I have to honestly tell you whereas I understand the prejudices you are referring to; I’m lost on the allusions you are presenting. Signed, 3 years in SF & 18 years in Hollywood
I've enjoyed your videos, but Rich... , I think your fixation on burning Jeff has reached 'jumping the shark' status! You said, "If you're open minded....". I AM open minded and I've seen every episode of Survivor, several times. NEVER have I seen or gotten the impression that Jeff is racist or less excited for non-white winners. I agree that Sarah's sexism comments were not only unwarranted but unnecessary and Jeff's apologetic response was ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me if Jeff stops saying "Come on in guys" too, which is equally ridulous. But I just can't agree with you about Survivor and racism.
I feel like he would have complimented any one who won... he would’ve complimented Natalie for wining and never giving up... he would’ve praised Michelle for believing in herself even when so many viewers didn’t.
I honestly don't understand, it seems highly doubtful that survivor and Jeff would not embrace Jeremy or Yul or any of the women becoming the champion of this season especially when they've all been championed previously
I can't think of a more deserving winner than tony. As far as the show goes, I have no doubt that there is unfairness its human nature. The fact that you didn't brake any rules and you were blacklisted from the show proves that.✌
I am not sure I understand what you’re saying. Tony’s family is beautiful but so is Jeremy’s. I guess I am just confused because a family is not just defined as a mom and dad and kids anymore. My son had many friends that their grandparents are their “parents” or they live with their aunt or their uncle. I think family is more defined now a-days by who loves you, who takes care of you, you stands with you when no one else does. So maybe I missing the whole point of what was being said here? I see many beautiful families all around me and I don’t think calling out someone and saying their family is beautiful is a bad thing. Maybe there is more things I don’t know about🤷🏽♀️ I haven’t been on the show. I haven’t been chosen to be on the show or to interact with anyone on the show, so maybe Rich knows more about the producers and such than I do. Personally I didn’t see anything wrong with Jeff saying Tony had a beautiful family. But I do enjoy your videos Richard and your insights. I just didn’t get this one. Much respect to you though ✌🏼
As a gay man of color, I must say this is so ridiculous and I don't even know where to begin. Survivor always has loved ones come in for the hug after the winner is announced. They had them already sitting there due to the format this season (and including Natalie's interracial relationship I should add). Apart from that, Survivor has always treated all sorts of families as normal on loved one visits, be they interracial relationships or same-sex relationships or whatever. And anyway, if there is to be a push for more inclusion of non-white and/or non-straight families, repressing the straight white family is definitely not the way to do it. It should be about including everyone so we are all equal on the in, not excluding straight white families so we are all equally on the outs (how ridiculous). If anything I dont think CBS exploited this moment with Tony and his family. My complaint is this segment was too short and there should have been more time speaking to them (as well as Natalie and Michele and their families as well). Acting offended over this non-issue is a quintessential example of leftism pushed way too far and often results in many people backlashing to the right way too far in response. Then next thing you know we are ideologically polarised with both sides fixated on identity politics to extremes that make them look like caricatures when unfortunately they're serious.
I could be wrong but I believe S40 was the first season without a gay contestant. There were only two options, Rich and Todd Herzog. I’m not saying one of them should have been included just to fill a quota, but it is interesting that S40 lacks the show’s usual sexual diversity. It’s the only such season I can think of offhand, though again, I could be wrong.
Rich you were my favorite for A long time. you still are. BUT. I think you have lost touch and you are very bitter. One thing I domt think you realize for us survivor fans. Jeff Probst is survivor. He's as important as the challenges and the game it self. I wouldnt watch if Jeff wasn't there. It wouldn't be the same. I watch survivor Australia.....and i like it. But its not the same.
If you know production is so negative in the first place, then why follow and engage with the show at all? Simple - Hatch is creating these videos to monetise off Survivor. No issue with that except content like this is unfounded and malicious, and effectively he’s biting the hand that feeds him. That call to action to comment and like/dislike at the end is clear proof. Yucks
We get the point you don't like Jeff Probst. Now can you please get back to talking about the Game of Survivor?. You have a great insight into how to play the game and I love to hear that. Nothing you say about Jeff is going to change a thing, anyway.
Richard, I really enjoyed your commentary ON THE GAME this season. But now that it’s over, I was hoping to hear more about your analysis of the season, and I feel like we’re just getting this repeated lambasting of Jeff from you. I realize we fans don’t know him, but I feel like, at this point, by labeling him as an abusive, privileged bigot and providing no solid proof of your accusations, you’re making yourself look far worse than him. This hyperbolic language is something you seem to be using intentionally to rile people up. I’m gonna have to unsubscribe, and maybe you don’t care. That’s fine. This is your channel, and you have every right to say what you want to on it. But this is just starting to reek of bitterness that you weren’t cast, and it’s lost any enjoyment for me.
Sooooo what about Sandra and rob being the two representatives before Tony’s win? 🤔 I mean they had statues of them on the island. The reason he said tony is a good representative of the show is because of how he played not because he is a white man.
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Lol I agree with you but I'm pretty sure Rob is white...
soccerguy325 yeah I think he is too but the man gets so tan once he starts playing 😂. point is, rob is white and he WAS the representative of the show and he a beautiful white wife with beautiful white children. But Hatch never complained about rob and his family being the main representatives of survivor.
@@bbpaulss Rob used to be white before his first Survivor.
leicanoct so then that makes hatch’s argument completely invalid then?
Rich, a man who has a beautiful family and works to save lives of others everyday is a great representative of Survivor.
And played the best game.
Not sure what your point is here.
He's mainly just upset that Jeff, as host and executive producer, holds up the straight, white guy as the "perfect representative" of Survivor after they pulled their offer to him to appear on season 40 after the incidents from season 39 occurred to play it safe and stating that Hatch "does not represent what Survivor is". I think Richard is way off base on his statements, because Tony is a great representative regardless of his skin color or sexual orientation. What Richard has been right about in other videos, is that the producers and executives control everything that happens in these shows. From allowing him to compete naked causing the Sue incident on All Stars, when they could have said nope, clothes or disqualified; to what happened last season. They are always there, they can stop or allow whatever they want, and edit and air it however they want...and that pisses Richard off. They continue to portray him in a manner he feels is unfair, then cast him aside, and he's acting out like a scorned lover to try and take them down any way he can.
Paul Carr Truth!
He doesn't even know
Can you give some examples or evidence of what you’re talking about so we can understand you’re point, because it just sounds like you’re ranting with no evidence
This is an interesting take, but in the end, I think it's you, Richard, who is projecting race onto Jeff's comments. I have a lot of problems with Jeff, many of which you have pointed out on this very channel, but I think Jeff is just a sucker for families in any capacity. He's treated Cirie and her family with similar amounts of love and praise with which he treated Tony the other night; I think he would've treated Jeremy and his large family the exact same way had he turned out to be the second two-time winner.
It's also worth noting that this particular finale allowed for each finalist to be surrounded by their families as the votes were being read; this hasn't happened in any of the first 39 seasons and made it a little easier for Jeff to make those comments about Tony's family, especially at the end of a season as big as this. Again, I think Probst would've reacted the same way had it been Jeremy or Sandra and their families. I think it's you who are projecting.
The primary difference is happiness versus depression during these uncertain times...clearly we are witnessing the diatribes of a deeply unhappy person.
@@CadeCYC That may be true but I don't think it's due to the quarantine. Richard has been through a lot. I hope he's doing alright but I'm sure he'll get through it either way. He should make a video on it.
We get it. You’re hurt you weren’t chosen to play. But expressing your hurt feelings in this manner isn’t exactly gracious.
Also....can you give “specific” examples of racism and bigotry by Jeff? I don’t doubt it exists....but simply saying something is so has no weight to it without specific examples.
Truth.
Indeed, honestly there’s more proof to the contrary then with what Hatch is saying.
I listened carefully to the entire video, and I have the same question you do, @JulieLockhart. I didn’t hear any specific examples of bigotry and racism, either. Also, in what ways are contestants exploited? What are some examples of this? I just don’t see what Richard is seeing.
@@gromitmuggromitmuggromitmug idk about the racism but every time you see a person on camera, their being exploited. Their like-ability, convos, challenges. It’s all for the show to make money and only for the contestants to have a smidge of hope they’ll win the milli.
@@marie9524they're*
I'm sorry, I had to click off this video about halfway through. Your argument is absolutely ridiculous. My opinion of you is drastically lowered
yeah... rolling my eyes at this video...
if michelle had won, would jeff have said the same thing? - probably... it's just something you say on TV.
...but would rich have said the same thing? dunno....
Bitter, bitter, bitter Betty. I get it you hate Jeff Probst, he is still not gutted over it. Tony deserved the win and did not win because he is a "white man" with a beautiful family. SMH
He's been bashing Jeff all season hiding behind his commentary...this was his last attempt to do so...It could've been white Tony, Black Jason, Latina Edna...He's been waiting to conclude with this rant....sickening, embarrassing..and he needs to take it down....
@@edreid7872 nah he should leave it up. We should know he's not as smart as he claims to be.
@Ian Stanley Tony is not Latino. He is Caucasian, I believe of Greek descent, based on his name, Vlachos.
@Ian Stanley Tony is latino? I thought he was Italian. And so what if one is Slovak, or Russian, or Korean or Swedish or Scottish?
@leicanoct I didn't say he was, Hatch did, notice my quotation marks.
"Richard Hatch, zero chance of returning to the game."
Lmao
Unless someone rich guy buys the show and we get better producers.
If I were Bill Gates, first thing I would do is buy Survivor and take over and bring this guy back to play.
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qc Is that really the first thing you would do? That is terribly irresponsible with your money, and also Bill Gates donates tons to charity.
Good. Nobody wants to see him anymore.
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qc Lol, the show has and will continue to succeed without him. Hatch is not an integral part of the show's success. There is no need to go out of your way to bring him back.
Did Probst even say Tony represents Survivor? He would be hyping up whoever won. I think you're looking for something that isn't there. You're honestly coming off as bitter now. I'm not even a big Probst fan and love to see rightful criticism. But this is ridiculous.
Same, I can't stand Probst but this is nonsense.
Same.
Tony says he represents himself as the winner of S 40 just as each other winner represents his/her season. Sandra is the only one out there claiming she is Queen of Survivor. So, if there is anyone to pick apart it would be Sandra. But like Tony she does have a very good personality and is quite likeable. But what is it that makes someone as a "representative" of Survivor. I guess it's Jeff's approval of that like who he seems to favor like: Boston Rob, Sandra, Parveti. I don't have the answer but Sandra and Rob SEEM to be the ones that represent Survivor. Rob basically has two wins as Amber pointed out. Rob was really the winner that season and not Amber as far as Play goes.
@@Tocimah sorry but lots of people call her Queen. Don't be disingenuous.
Southern Skeptic She was dethroned after she quit edge. Don’t try to argue against that.
Wish this guy would just make his point quicker He’s gotta give facts and shit clearly
1.75x speed my dude it can be a lifesaver
Hes no where near as smart as he thinks he is.
MisterGreenGuy Truth. Guaranteed he has CNN/MSNBC on in his background 24/7
Gavin MacFadyen i dont got all day tho make it quick
The follow-up video to this was even worse
You started by saying “bear with me”. I did, and that was 13 minutes I will never get back.
I'm sorry.
Hahaha.
@@CadeCYC Please press F to pay respects. M8 lost 13 precious minutes of their life that they'll never get back.
Thank you for saving me 13 minutes.
What Jeff meant by saying Tony is a great representative of the show is how great of a player he is and how he is able to adapt. He is the face of the craziness, out of the box, politicking of the game.
Rich, it would have taken a lot less words and time to simply say what you mean, that you are calling out Jeff and Survivor production as racist, sexist and homophobic. And if you're making those accusations it would be appreciated if you came out with specifics instead of filling up 13 minutes saying what could have said in 2.
At the end of the day, the fact is that you have a massive personal animosity towards Jeff Probst and Survivor production due to their decision to not include you on season 40. And any opinion you have that involves them is massively colored by that animosity. You need to behave in a more mature manner and accept responsibility. They were never going to cast you on season 40 due to the PR nightmare it would have been after the Dan incident due to your incident with Sue in season 8. Regardless of your defenses (and I have watched your past videos about it), regardless of whether you are in the right or not on what happened in season 8, CBS was never going to take on that PR nightmare. You are the only person who has failed to accept it. I am sure it hurts that you were not on the season, but you need to move on and get over it.
Your personal animosity towards Jeff is damaging your credibility and I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to bother being subscribed to your channel.
PREACH!! Though If this doesn’t show you the narrow delusion of his channel nothing will.
Sub to Russel Hantz it’s really better because it’s more simple. He is so different on his channel then he was on survivor.
Jokes on you, I already unsubscribed from this channel. 😃
Rich, we’ve established that Jeff and the rest of production’s decisions are pretty sketchy, but this is just literally grasping at straws. Nobody’s gonna go out and commit harmful acts toward people who’re underprivileged because Jeff said Tony is a good representative for survivor.
Exactly!
LOL yes. extreme socialist self-delusions, chaos & madness.
Rich, when you're making allegations like these, you HAVE to expound on them. When you're speaking in vague terms, it seems as if you've either a) fallen off the ideological deep end, or b) become very, very bitter. This series has a bevy of minority men and women who have been hailed as some of the great players of all-time. It seems as though you've not spoken to Probst in years, so I wonder how you can have any new information that supports your beliefs that Jeff has not changed. And even when it comes to the original belief that he's always been a racist, homophobic, sexist bigot, just go into the specifics. Don't mention names, just mention events. The problem now is that, as you continue to speak in vague terms, you lessen the impact and believe-ability of your eventual specific allegations, as you truly just seem bitter.
I think you meant 'believability'. Synonyms include 'credibility'.
@@reubenmanzo2054 Thank you, kind sir. I did type that originally, but TH-cam said it wasn't a word for some reason, so I second-guessed myself
Very well put. I generally love Rich's perspective but this video (and maybe a couple others) felt like he was going out of his way to be vague. He does appear to be passionate about what he's not telling us, but from what I can detect, I'm not in agreement with what I 'think' he's saying.
@akensons at least Richard isn't hiding behind a fake profile created only to write your obvious mission here... FAIL...
@@jakinajakina1974 I'm not sure what you're insinuating. This isn't a fake profile - I've had it since 2011 - and I'm not hiding my identity to come after him. I think Rich is a very intelligent person, who just so happens to be succumbing to bitterness in this video
Dude. We GET that you hate Probst and whatever your reasons, that's your privilege. We get that you've met and worked with his professional side and we haven't. But - can we move on now? We're tired of it.
Let him rant, so long as it's sane and rational. Ranting is great. :)
It’s obvious now why you were not chosen for Season 40. 🤦♂️
Could you give some examples? You use a lot of vague terms like "abused", "exploited", "taken advantage of", You point out people who are guilty of these things but you don't give any examples of exactly how they have done this.
It’s like watching MSNBC
Dear Richard, No.
i think this doesn’t hold any water. If the network was racist, how would Sandra be considered The Queen, and literally become idolized within the lore of the show.
I agree that Richard's arguments are too vague and it seems they are so on purpose.
I don't know if the show is necessarily racist, but it is definitely not diverse enough, and there were many instances where the only black people get eliminated very quickly. And a few in which white contestants showed distrust of black people.
@@DaedalusLabyrinth right. Ofc the show isny diverse enough. But most shows arent. Is that a good thing? No, but we are moving in the right direction.
Lol and I highly doubt the producers and workers are racist. Its just how things kind of works.
@@kevindragneel285 Unfortunately, "we are moving in the right direction" is often used as an excuse when one is not doing enough.
Maybe the show is a true representation of America, and the producers cast accordingly... if they cast 13% african-american contestants, they must also cast xx% racist contestants. I am perhaps exaggerating to make a point.
However, take Millenials vs Gen X, as an example of what I said in my previous comment: the 5 contestants representing minorities had all been voted out after the 7th (!) tribal council!
@@DaedalusLabyrinth doesnt make sense
@@kevindragneel285Diversity means nothing. Stop looking for race.
If anything it seems to me production goes way out of their way to represent alternative lifestyles. One would think the thing they dread most is another straight white guy winning. Thanks for sharing though.
@Ian Stanley Well, let me listen to it again then.
@Ian Stanley. I get that
I understand that and tbh I thought it was going to turn into that.
It hasn’t.
@Ian Stanley That's the opposite of Richard's argument. He's saying Jeff LOVES that a white man with a traditional family won. Rich is arguing Jeff wants to frame Survivor as a show for and about family, and thus is pleased to say Tony and his family are representative of exactly what Survivor is about. I believe Richard's argument is complete and utter bs.
@Ian Stanley I listened to the whole thing again paying close attention. He is saying that while hypocritically portraying themselves as extreme social liberals, Probst and production in general, in reality celebrate Tony more for his win than they would a POC, LBTQ or similar minority. That is what Hatch is saying. This is obviously not the case in my opinion. Had a minority or alternative lifestyle person won, obviously they would have been celebrated even more.
Greg Garrison thanks for clarification Greg
You are a very logical man, but this post is highly emotional without solid logic or examples to back it up. Not accusing you of being wrong, but your arguments are normally more sound. Keep the videos coming!
does he really think that if Natalie had won he wouldn't have talked about her being a 'beautiful representation of the survivor winners'? Honestly? Was he upset when Jeremy won? Did he ignore the fact that Jeremy was a family man? When the family visit happened he talked about Jeremy and his amazing family as much as he did anyone elses....
Dude you’re losing it! 🤯
Yeah Russell, make a video responding to it.
Yes please! I was actually just searching for a reaction video to this but there isn't any.
Even Hantz gettin' in on this! nice.... Make a vid dude. :)
I like ur channel better.
'losing it' is a massive understatement.
“Now listen, I don’t want this to take away from Tony’s win or his families happiness, but white man and white family bad. Seeing people that look like them be complimented is absolutely DESPICABLE and needs to stop.”
Exactly😂😂😂
pretty much.... XD I don't think Rich really thought this one through.
PBG, exactly. You can only degrade the white human. You must not compliment nor lift up the white human.
White human bad. And this is coming from Hatch. A white human. Which makes Hatch a race traitor. I loath race traitors.
@@gavinmacfadyen2669 why would Survivor have 18 black lpeople and 2 white people when America is 70 percent white and 12 percent black? 95 percent black Survivor cast doesn't represent the US.
Humans are tribal and like to hang out and watch things in them with people that look like them. For some reason only white people have to be sorry for this. Unfortunaltely for people like you America is stil majority white. I'm not sorry for this. I'm not playing you're "ashamed to be white" nonsense.
@@SouthernSkeptic amen to that. All this BS about being ashamed of the way God made us is insanity. I'm proud to be white because it's how I was born, but it doesn't make me inheiritly racist. Black people are proud to be black, does that make them racist? NO!
A new low for Richard Hatch. I guess he’s already running out of Survivor material.
I don’t see this being a low. He’s just speaking his thoughts at this moment of time.
They might change,
Or Maybe you’re right, idk
Kronk - It's a big low.
@@kronickoliosis6115 He should be allowed to voice his perspective, but when he demonizes and allegates that survivor which prides itself on being progressive and accepting by giving a plethora of different xenotypes the platform to share their, he has a right to be criticized for it especially when his evidence holds very little evidence.
Lol truth
Sorry but you can’t make huge claims like this without any examples. I’ve always been a fan of yours and would have loved to see you on winners at war but videos like this do not help your case. I was subsribed after you made your 2nd or 3rd video but now will be unsubscribing for now, sorry.
I think Hatch’s bitterness towards Jeff Probst and his bitterness towards not being included on season 40 is clouding his judgements. First off, I feel like Hatch is taking those comments made by Jeff Probst about Tony being a good representative winner the wrong way. As an African American myself, I didn’t take Probst’s comments as meaning that Tony is a good representative of the show solely because he’s white. I interpreted Probst’s comments as saying that Tony is a good representation of the show for reasons such as: someone who’s a family man, and someone who plays the game of Survivor like there’s no tomorrow(Probst respects). I’m almost certain that had Jeremy won the game, Probst would’ve been singing his praises as well. Another problem with Richard’s statements is the fact that he barely provides any examples when asserting his strong accusations upon Probst. Hatch is certainly never going to be invited to play US survivor again; I also feel like he’s ruining his chances for potential invitations to play International Survivor as well. Nobody wants to deal with the baggage that comes with Hatch as both a player and a person.
i really wish he'd give some examples to demonstrate his points. just simply saying jeff is a bigot without any evidence is difficult to get on board with. i'm open to listening to what hatch has to say because he definitely knows more about the behind the scenes than the fans, but if he's not gonna give examples then i don't see the point.
He doesn't have any. Hatch told Jeremy this season what a beautiful family he had too. The shole season was about family and the kids on the family visit. Hatch threw shit at the wall here. It didn't stick to said wall.
Ur chances of playing are 0% now bud
Love you you rich, ur the the og but come on man this argument is a bit of a stretch
I love you, Richard, but you're seeing something that doesn't exist with this one.
You love someone you’ve never met who was on a show he now loves? Hates? Obsesses over? 20 years ago....
Rich I used to watch your videos but after this video I probably won’t
Ok now you're just reaching. I'm an asian female and not once a straight while male come to my mind when Tony won. I only see Tony as the player.
So your saying that if Jeremy won than Probst wouldn’t have told him that he’s a good face of survivor ? 🤔
You babbled on for awhile about being a victim but never actually said why, how or what exactly has been done to make you a victim. If your pissed you got left out of season 40. All you have to do is take accountability to season 8 and what happened with you and Sue. In todays current age they arent going to let a wild card like yourself back on the show after that and it has ZERO to do with sexual preference or race. It has everything to do with a persons actions. Your actions.
CBS got him sent to jail and branded as a sexual harasser.
Omg Hatch. So bitter.. Please..
every time you post a video, the less I’m convinced you would ever be called to play again and it makes me sad.
There is 0% chance he will ever be cast again. CBS will not allow it. Not because they are righteous, but because they don't want the PR nightmare it would be. And well, after all these attacks he has made on Jeff and production there is 0% chance they would ever include him again regardless.
An old man with Get off of my lawn mentality..😂
Rich will never play again, these videos make that obvious. Early on when I started watching his content I thought maybe he'd be alright going back on the show but now I dont want to see him play again. If he has these feelings about the show and Jeff there's no way that doesn't come out on the show if he's there, I personally don't want to see that. Do I think Jeff needs to step away from producing and having his hands in everything survivor? Absolutely but that won't happen and the show will more than likely die a slow death because of his disconnect with fans. Rich on the other hand would be like a nuclear bomb and he doesn't hold his tongue so that would be ugly on the show.
I taste alot of salt lol
So much sodium ima have a heart problem
@@nooba220 more salt than in the dead sea.
Richard is the best Survivor player in history. He was a big big threat before Sue incident. He was playing the game on another level we'll never know what Richard Hatch is able to accomplish in a fair second shot. I see that season over and over again, All Stars Was being played by Rich in a different way. Rich was about to add a new layer to the game.
Thank you.
This is so rich considering the all-stars incident with Sue Hawk.
It's sad to see you reach this low.. This is clearly projection of hatred on a natural human interaction. What Jeff said was going to be said to anyone.
It's as simple as saying hello to anyone. If anything, read the comments. I have yet to see people divided on this one. Maybe you have to recheck yourself.
Really, it also makes whatever you say really taken with a grain of salt, if this is the type of mentality we are listening to.
Hatch I know you want to speak your mind, but if you want to play again this is not the way to do it, still love you though❤️
I think the door is completely closed.
GraceWithoutTears very true😂
He is never going to be asked to play again, he's done.
Probst and production are holding the All Stars incident over his head. I really think it's over when it comes to a return.
Thats sort of Rich’s point, though. The decision makers cannot fathom having Rich in the game because he holds them accountable for their abusive and disgusting tactics. Richard, I have binged almost every video on your channel and the urgency in your voice is spot on. Probst and the rest of the decision makers have been conducting business these ways for years and I also agree that it has been completely obvious. Thank you for everything you do for the Survivor community and beyond. It’s a travesty that you have to sacrifice your goodwill with the program to get these points across.
Quickest dislike and unsubscribe ever. If Probst is so obviously racist, show us some examples maybe? He has been on tv for 20 years, surely u can find a better example than him saying Tony has a beautiful family.
that's enough, not coming back here, just too much bitterness
Nah. He probably just based this video on what he thought the majority agreed with, because he thinks people are represented by the media. He may very well self-reflect and/or get advise on how to damage control this disaster and be a better TH-camr for it. I can't wait for his next vid tbh. :)
I'm sorry Richard, you're reaching here.
Didn’t Probst react the same way when Jeremy won Cambodia? Probst loves families, he loves sob stories, he loves things that make good television.
Also, when he talked about survivor couples at the All Stars reunion, did he not mention your relationship as well? He could’ve left you out, but he didn’t. He acknowledged your relationship as much as he did Ethan and Jenna.
Probst may make bad creative decisions from time to time, but complimenting somebody on their family and saying he's a great representative for Survivor (which he clearly is, the fan base loves him!) does not mean that Probst is being racist. Can anyone take a compliment at face value these days? The Richard Hatch I know is a straight shooter, not somebody who concocts in order to bring race into the equation where it is clearly irrelevant.
when I subscribed I was looking forward to a perspective of a former player not tied to promotions or sponsors to the show. This was disappointing.first, I am part of the LGBT community myself so I am not coming In "privalaged" or whatever. Probst saying he's a good rep for the show is what it is since Tony played the game well as you mentioned.The family was there as he just won the game so it was a complement and maybe a nod to them to supporting Tony by letting him play and allowing the family and story to be shared (family visit, reading of the votes,etc). we don't know! Family meant a lot to Tony through the show and we get to see his family at the end of it all. Jeff said the same thing to Jeremy and talked about his family the same way when Jeremy won second chance. You obviously have a chip on your shoulder and are taking everything to an extreme. I don't if it's to cause "buzz" and get more views or reactions. Or you are low on content because the season is over and we don't know if 41 is coming? but there is no evidence to show any of these issues are true. If you are you going to make videos accusing people of being racist or homophobic get some facts down instead of repeating the same things different ways with no evidence.
Absolutely. And also being LGBTQ+ , I find his victimhood & baseless arguments worthy of the deluge of comments clearly received. Will he hear any of it though? Doesn’t seem likely.
Whether or not you have a point... your verbiage and tone is undermining your idea. Sometimes you do that... you exaggerate to make a point. People will only see it as bitterness over your omission from 40. Dropping hints and offhand comments would have been a better strategy.
But what if he doesn't see it as exaggeration? What if he's trying to communicate your his points realistically?
I personally cannot like or dislike this video because I am also not sure whether he has a point. I wish he would have spent more time addressing concrete examples rather than repeating how much Tony deserved the win.
@@AnnikaAvenue It is not about whether HE feels it is exaggeration. It is the perception that many, if not most, in the audience will have. Therefore rendering his intentions as ineffective. To get across something this "radical", you have to introduce it with a calmer tone.
I don’t get this video I don’t see what’s wrong with seeing tony and his family
please give examples how players are abused unnecessarily. I do not do social media and only read a few you tube comments. I really would like to know why you keep on this subject...
i feel a certain bigotry tword parents who have family and kids as opposed to single people. I have a brother who needs financial help constantly as he spends money like crazy yet single me is financially responsible and every thing revols around his family and their financial problems. My brother would get a cash windfall and spend it on a trip and 1 month later be destitute with credit card debt..
@@JSmith380 I would like to give him a chance to give examples as we asked.. Why would he support a show that treats people as it supposedly does even though he likes survivor as a game..
@@JSmith380 i still want to know specific examples as well as power bar on survivor amazon- big mystery even though rich was not there- rich does express thoughts clearly
@@JSmith380 Because his opinions are in reaction to him being removed from the cast of season 40 and his personal anger at Jeff because of it. If he was included on the cast this video would not exist.
@@JSmith380 I don't think they cut him last minute. He was never an option because of Island of the Idols.
Jeff Probst surely postured with that gender bias thing, that's for sure.
If Tony and his family had been black, you'd probably say the reunion was so short because Jeff's Racist. XD
Better do some introspection on your bias bro.
Dear Richard, Stop.
I dont believe that Hatch was discrediting Tonys Win. Correct me if Im wrong Rich. He was just saying that Jeff is not truely a liberal in character and belief. CBS is trying to put forward an image of a white-picket fence, PG-13, and a silly cartoon character. No offense Tony.
You're really reaching here.....you continue to say it has nothing to do with Tony and his family, while you continue to call them out...How would you like Jeff to congratulate them?....His words at the end, which was the shortest in series history, could've been said to any of the winners....just one more dig at Jeff, which really was the reason for your seasons commentary, that has nothing to do Tony's winning...you're way off base here.....sexism, abuse, discrimination, Les Mooves, exploitation.....White Tony, and his beautiful white family..talk about using terminology to sway your audience..Bitter Betty about not being asked back this season....not a good look my friend..If it's so exploitative, and abusive, why were so eager to attend?....😕
Well said Ed
Whoever "Dante Luna" is needs to learn to edit this guy's rambling down to a 2-minute video. Who's gonna watch 13 minutes of this? Or an HOUR for a finale recap?
Unless he’s RHAP not interested!!!
Just like that, I couldn't give less of a shit about Richard returning.
I love that He's acting like he's saying something so profound with his dark set up, tone of voice and mannerisms
I wanted to see Hatch come back until I saw this
I think this video is about Probst’s “apologetic” reaction to Sarah’s pointing out gender bias (and more).
@We call on your blessings Not so funny thing is... PROBST HAS A GENDER BIAS! All these winners are well aware of what fans say about them and other players on social media and everything Sarah said is 100% true.
Yes she played an inferior game to Tony, everyone did. I think Sarah was finally commenting about the backlash she got on how she won Game Changers. Natalie coming into camp after her win back challenge and saying everyone on EoE is saying how Tony is controlling the game woke Sarah up.
Christopher Thomson If I may voice my opinion, the reason in my mind that Sarah got hate was because the winner of the season was not Cirie. Additionally, it was because Cirie was “voted out” in a pretty unfair way. Many fans wanted Cirie to win survivor at some point and she was incredibly close three times out of four. Typically I’ve noticed that if there is a big twist in a finale episode, (Such as Cirie’s default elimination in Game Changers, final four fire making twist in HvHvH, Chris returning from extinction and winning, etc.) it will often leave a bitter taste in the mouth of fans for seasons that were very good otherwise. I believe that this is why Sarah received hate. I do not believe that Jeff has bias towards Tony. In the scenario that there was, the fact that it was in an online call, and the fact that Tony was the only one of the three finalists that had kids present is the reason that Jeff commented on Tony’s family. Not because of any form of bias. If I missed the point you were trying to address, I’m sorry. But I tried to answer in a way that responds to how I perceived your statement.
@@davidg8309 Of course voice your opinion and I like what you said. The gender bias I am referring to is more about what Sarah was saying at tribal council, not about Probst during the reading of the votes crowning the winner. I agree that Probst made that comment because Tony is the only one out of the 3 that had their own family. I never thought that was favoritism towards Tony or white men. He was the winner of the season. Because of the nature of crowning the winner being over Zoom, Tony was able to have his family with him instead of in the stands.
I also 100% agree with you about those finale episode twists that either eliminate a fan favorite, season leading favorite player or it brings a player back right at the end when that person ends up winning it. I love Cirie and it's a shame she never won any of her seasons. (I have many other favorites from that Game Changers cast) Cirie is one of the best to never win. I recently watched all the Survivor live Instagram videos when a previous player takes over Survivor's Instagram to talk about the episode as it airs. Cirie was one of the few chosen to do it. Obviously tells us how much CBS Survivor loves her.
Blessings, yep. She was delusional all season thinking she could beat Tony. When Natalie informed her that wasn't the case, she started yelling "But, but wahmen."
I wish "abused" would be expounded upon...
Man I dont think Jeff is a racists piece of shit like u describe him. In reality a lot of people have inate "isms" in their mind. Its normal. Plus tony does represent a really beautiful family.
I’m having a hard time understanding what the point of this video is. I wish you could have cited specific examples of “abuse” you think “Jeff, and the Executives” have done. Otherwise, I’m not sure what you are trying to express in this video.
Also, I’m not so sure about racism, homophobia, bigotry, etc. As I recall, the very first winner of Survivor was a overweight naked gay guy... 🧐
Yeah, you lost me here buddy. I wish you were on season 40, but now I see why you weren't. Ubsubbing, good luck.
He lost lots of subs here.
Game Over? I dont think theres any chance you are goning to play again after the things you have been saying on this channel, theres just no way back now and supprised theres no slander suit looming, it all seems a dangerous game you are playing. Expect this channel to fold soon also if it was just created as a platform to rant. Just for the record, im not the biggest Jeff fan. A few other thoughts, Tony didnt need to be white straight male to win game, coulda been any color etc, anybody that watched the show can see he clearly ran things and played much better then the people that made the merge stage. Sarah on the other hand, i believe, tried to use cheap tactics to influence the jury ( the Hiliary C. maneuver, vote for me because ima a woman card) after being rather cocky in pregame interviews about her being the best survivor player, and ingame thinking she was running everything, did she forget she herself was blindsided on a couple of votes by Tony, voting out Sophie !
You want to be considered such a deep thinker yet you just regurgitate tired old points that don't even apply to this situation. I get you've been hurt but jesus christ get over it
I haven't even heard what you have to say this time . . . yet. . . I have to ask WHAT is your problem with this man and can't you deal with it directly? Are you trying to get closure? I am not being negative I am trying to understand.
Not everyone is evil, not every moment should be analyzed. You do not like Jeff. you feel he owes you something because of the mistakes you have made in life. He is not perfect nor an angel. but chill. You are just looking for others mistakes. Tony Represents a great spirit for the game of survivor, that's all. Just because it is not you that is the billboard of survivor like a Boston Rob, Sandra or Tony doesn't mean it is wrong. just because people think different to you does not make them wrong. Also those players would school you. The game has evolved. Your just milking your 15min of fame. I like your confidence, it is just some of your opinions verge on delusion for me. just my 15 cents on the matter.
I don't agree with you Rich, I think you may be seeing things through your own filter here as opposed to how things actually are. Jeremy was a great example of an African American family man, Survivor got right behind him and he was taken out early because he was so likeable. Reed Kelly gave one of my favourite speeches of all time and I didn't see any exclusions in terms of filming with his partner Josh Canfield. Sandra, icon, won twice. It may be something that happens in production off camera but I've seen equality on Survivor, gender and ethnicity inclusive from the comforts of my couch, since S1E1.
It is a shame you weren't included to play Winners at War, I wish you had been.
I respect this video but I think it could have spent more time in the editing room.
He think tony is a good representative of survivor cause he won twice/“the biggest season” and as well as he is wracky and fun to watch also back on the winning twice part it’s just like all the times he brought Sandra up because she won twice also cerie (a black women) seems to be one of he’s favourite players and Boston rob has some what colours really seems like he is his favourite
Also on the Jeff being a sexist bigot part he brought his own bigotry up himself that tribal by himself and the stuff he was saying was very small and badly even true that was him admitting to a flaw and now he wants to work at it
It’s almost like u r(rich) r bitter that you didn’t become the host or something
Rich was bang on about Probst's phony posturing; regardless that Rich is delusional about the Tony/Probst angle. Don't conflate the 2.
I am having a hard time following what you are saying and you would argue that I am slow or close minded or that I am part of the problem, but we can find “proof by perspective” in all things that everyone is trying to wrong someone else. I believe the phrase is “grasping at straws.” It seems that you are bitter. I still respect you Hatch and will still watch your videos but I don’t see it in this case. Just my opinion.
You know I might believe you if you used actual examples. How is Jeff exploiting them, by painting people as characters? That is reality TV, it is impossible not to, and still have an entertaining show. This just seems like a personal feud between Hatch and Probst. If Tony is a great person with a great family than what is wrong with Jeff saying that. What should Jeff do and say, “Tony is not the winner we want, but the winner we get!” Ridiculous!
Your channel used to be interesting, but now I think you have lost most of your credibility. I can understand being upset at production, but 17 other winners didn’t come back, and they’ve handled with grace. I didn’t necessarily agree with everything you had been saying, but at least you used to have some reasons behind it, which made it interesting. Now you just sound very bitter and nasty. You just lost my subscription
I was supporting your viewpoint but now you've gone full SjW.
I have no respect for that, pulling the race and LBJQTZZZYYSDDD card
First time I disagree with you. I think you just want to see bad things.
Hey Richard can you do an analysis on how you would play Winners at War if you were on the season? Who you would align with - want out? Etc
yes, Rich. Was wondering who you would have approached.
Tocimah he would have approached Jeff first and told him he hates him. Then he would align with Ben because he has a crush on him. Then during the family visit Rich would see Ben’s wife. He would write her name down at tribal council.
@@ColbyBumington 😆
First question would be, who would he replace?
Why do people have to bring race and sexism into everything? Survivor has given the survivor win to gay people, different races, both genders, it is the fairest game possible. Richard should know better then anyone, back in 2000 he a gay man won survivor. Sandra was exploited and she’s a Latina women. I would say society rewards the opposite. Society loves to see a gay man, a women win, etc. Idk where you’re living but idc if Jeff calls men by their last name (if that’s a bro thing who cares) or when Sarah said she got hate for her win because she played hard and was a a women? Tong got just as much hate and he’s a man. Overall survivor is not racist and you have no evidence to support that it is you just ramble for a long time.
Richard with all due respect this video is so confusing. It’s a whole lot of nothing. How he can exploit his family when at we are quarantine and of course your family should be on camera with you. They are the reason he was out there to play. I seriously try to see you point of view but there’s nothing there.
I think is funny how he thinks he will do good socially in survivor but its doing a HORRIBLE job at increasing his chances to even get in the game again. Seems like he cant help himself but to speak his mind
Hatch, I’m halfway through this video & I have to honestly tell you whereas I understand the prejudices you are referring to; I’m lost on the allusions you are presenting.
Signed,
3 years in SF & 18 years in Hollywood
I've enjoyed your videos, but Rich... , I think your fixation on burning Jeff has reached 'jumping the shark' status! You said, "If you're open minded....". I AM open minded and I've seen every episode of Survivor, several times. NEVER have I seen or gotten the impression that Jeff is racist or less excited for non-white winners.
I agree that Sarah's sexism comments were not only unwarranted but unnecessary and Jeff's apologetic response was ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me if Jeff stops saying "Come on in guys" too, which is equally ridulous. But I just can't agree with you about Survivor and racism.
Me before Winners At Wars began: "Why exactly isn't Richard Hatch on this season!?"
Me now: "I cant believe I wanted this man to play again."
After this video, I am officially unsubscribed. You have a personal beef with Jeff Probst and your argument is unfounded.
Pay your taxes, Richard
I feel like he would have complimented any one who won... he would’ve complimented Natalie for wining and never giving up... he would’ve praised Michelle for believing in herself even when so many viewers didn’t.
It’s been two weeks without a peep. I think he isn’t coming back. Rightly so.
Yup he lost his chance with ever coming back to Survivor and he’s lost a good amount of subscribers.
I honestly don't understand, it seems highly doubtful that survivor and Jeff would not embrace Jeremy or Yul or any of the women becoming the champion of this season especially when they've all been championed previously
I can't think of a more deserving winner than tony. As far as the show goes, I have no doubt that there is unfairness its human nature. The fact that you didn't brake any rules and you were blacklisted from the show proves that.✌
Dan last season did not break the rules either apparently. But I bet you he’s gonna be blacklisted too.
Him being a felon doesnt help
@@danielkwamou8290 very possible.
I am not sure I understand what you’re saying. Tony’s family is beautiful but so is Jeremy’s. I guess I am just confused because a family is not just defined as a mom and dad and kids anymore. My son had many friends that their grandparents are their “parents” or they live with their aunt or their uncle. I think family is more defined now a-days by who loves you, who takes care of you, you stands with you when no one else does. So maybe I missing the whole point of what was being said here? I see many beautiful families all around me and I don’t think calling out someone and saying their family is beautiful is a bad thing. Maybe there is more things I don’t know about🤷🏽♀️ I haven’t been on the show. I haven’t been chosen to be on the show or to interact with anyone on the show, so maybe Rich knows more about the producers and such than I do. Personally I didn’t see anything wrong with Jeff saying Tony had a beautiful family.
But I do enjoy your videos Richard and your insights. I just didn’t get this one. Much respect to you though ✌🏼
As a gay man of color, I must say this is so ridiculous and I don't even know where to begin. Survivor always has loved ones come in for the hug after the winner is announced. They had them already sitting there due to the format this season (and including Natalie's interracial relationship I should add). Apart from that, Survivor has always treated all sorts of families as normal on loved one visits, be they interracial relationships or same-sex relationships or whatever.
And anyway, if there is to be a push for more inclusion of non-white and/or non-straight families, repressing the straight white family is definitely not the way to do it. It should be about including everyone so we are all equal on the in, not excluding straight white families so we are all equally on the outs (how ridiculous).
If anything I dont think CBS exploited this moment with Tony and his family. My complaint is this segment was too short and there should have been more time speaking to them (as well as Natalie and Michele and their families as well).
Acting offended over this non-issue is a quintessential example of leftism pushed way too far and often results in many people backlashing to the right way too far in response. Then next thing you know we are ideologically polarised with both sides fixated on identity politics to extremes that make them look like caricatures when unfortunately they're serious.
I think he is just saying this because he is bitter about not making the season.
Starting to think that maybe it was the right choice to not get you into survivor again.
So Jeff is racist because he said Tony has a beautiful family? What? Lol
Are you going SJW on us?
I could be wrong but I believe S40 was the first season without a gay contestant. There were only two options, Rich and Todd Herzog.
I’m not saying one of them should have been included just to fill a quota, but it is interesting that S40 lacks the show’s usual sexual diversity. It’s the only such season I can think of offhand, though again, I could be wrong.
Rich you were my favorite for A long time. you still are. BUT. I think you have lost touch and you are very bitter. One thing I domt think you realize for us survivor fans. Jeff Probst is survivor. He's as important as the challenges and the game it self.
I wouldnt watch if Jeff wasn't there. It wouldn't be the same. I watch survivor Australia.....and i like it. But its not the same.
Looks like Russel was right
If you know production is so negative in the first place, then why follow and engage with the show at all?
Simple - Hatch is creating these videos to monetise off Survivor. No issue with that except content like this is unfounded and malicious, and effectively he’s biting the hand that feeds him.
That call to action to comment and like/dislike at the end is clear proof. Yucks
We get the point you don't like Jeff Probst. Now can you please get back to talking about the Game of Survivor?. You have a great insight into how to play the game and I love to hear that. Nothing you say about Jeff is going to change a thing, anyway.
Richard, I really enjoyed your commentary ON THE GAME this season. But now that it’s over, I was hoping to hear more about your analysis of the season, and I feel like we’re just getting this repeated lambasting of Jeff from you. I realize we fans don’t know him, but I feel like, at this point, by labeling him as an abusive, privileged bigot and providing no solid proof of your accusations, you’re making yourself look far worse than him. This hyperbolic language is something you seem to be using intentionally to rile people up. I’m gonna have to unsubscribe, and maybe you don’t care. That’s fine. This is your channel, and you have every right to say what you want to on it. But this is just starting to reek of bitterness that you weren’t cast, and it’s lost any enjoyment for me.