I took Bishop Barron's recommendation and purchased two copies of " The Crucifixion ". I am 1/4 way through it so far, and I see why Bishop Barron recommends this book so highly. True followers of Jesus should seek Him in knowledge from reliable sources, and this book is one such source.
This video eloquently (begins) to answer so many of the horrible things we see happening all over the world. It's certainly a FANTASTIC catalyst for conversation. Well done!
Bishop Barron. Thank you. I bought the book and then watched Ms. Rutledge on youtube. Can you have her as a guest on your show? It would be a blessing to watch you two talk about "The Crucifixion". God bless Father.
Another great video Bishop! I just have 2 things to say about it. 1. When I was teaching kids for Religious Ed (Grade 6) and we talked about the cross, and how painful it is. I tell them the equivalent of wearing a crucifix is like wearing a silver noose or electric chair. The cross only meant pain, humiliation and suffering. To have it as our symbol is baffling, but when we proclaim Christ Risen, we hold up the cross and say, "This does not hold power over me". The cross would be the ultimate act of terrorism, for people would fear it. 2. Today's world loves the "do not judge me" attitude. So, we see sin, and its subsequent effects, run rampant through the world. If we, as Christians, try to tell them about sin, we are dismissed saying we are not perfect as well, and who are we to judge. Many Christians see their own sinfulness and turn away for their own shame. We are all sinners, that is the truth. While we need to make sure that we work on the sins and temptations of our lives, helping others in the meantime is not bad or judging. Imagine that we have an anorexic person. The most loving act would be to tell them that they are wrong and need to stop. Imagine that we have a drug user. The most loving act would be to tell them that they are wrong and need to stop. But, when we try to defend the Church's definition of what's right and wrong, we are labeled as bigots and haters. We cannot be afraid to admit our own sin, and reliance on Jesus to save us. Honestly, the logic of the world is that a fat person shouldn't tell another fat person to lose weight. In this over simplified view, it is wrong. But, what if the one people were formerly even bigger and are in the middle of losing weight? They can grow together and support each other on the road to getting their lives right.I can tell you that when i tried changing my ways, it is tough. But, if you have somebody there to support you on your journey, it makes it more bearable. Thanks for listening to my ramblings lol Another great video again! I may have to check out this book!
I see now For those who were around to witness crucifixion. it was probably more stronger understood how humiliating it was for such a thing. Since now a day we do not see the kind of thing as much. so to us we sometimes don't understand its real Humiliation of it and how others witnessed such acts in the past. as many mock those on them and laugh. and many would probably gossip about so and so thinking its funny and well deserved. Thank you Bishop Barron for making me aware of this train of thought. I learn so much from your videos.
Amen! How can we talk of the cross and not talk about sin and why Jesus was hanging from the cross in the first place. Only when we can see our complete desolation of righteousness and our complete hopelessness can we only begin to understand the act of love and God's grace towards us. Who can save us. (not the church) Only Jesus who is the Christ.
Thanks as always, Bishop Barron! Have you heard though of Dr. Zugibe's analysis analysis of the crucifixion (from a medical/forensic side)? He seems to be (or was) pretty reliably the foremost expert in human crucifixion, and describes it as a perhaps even more horrifying type of death, not by Asphyxiation, but by multiple simultaneous types of shock.
Hi. I enjoyed your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video about the spirit of fear and do we such as ones suffering from anxeity or in general seek help through God? God Bless
Very well put DSShakespeare. I for one appreciate the use of logic and citation of credible historical study to counter the seemingly "learned" ramblings of the Bishop, however pleasant and believable a character he may appear.
Dear Bishop your Catholic heart couldn't allow you to mention she's a Priest! Lol. She's one and we're grateful to God for her ministry to the Church. The Sun of revelation does not rise and fall only on the ROMAN Catholic Church!
When the passion of the christ came out and even.today many people said It was a sadistic movie but i think Is a great representation of How brutal was the world in.wich jesús lived then when you understand How revolutionary Is the" love your enemy " messege
Excellent talk Bishop Barron. I think Mel Gibson captured that in the scene where Jesus Christ carries his cross and then when Simon is pressed into helping him. The awful cruelty and taunting of his tormentors. (It's like the scene in back to the Future borrowed from it's a wonderful Life. Something somehow is awfully hellishly gone wrong.
Bishop, have you heard of the book "The Scandal of Sacramentality"? I've gone through about half of it and it's a similar stepping-back from heady theology and looking into the paradox of the incarnation and messiness of the human body coupled with the startling reality of eating the Divine God in the Eucharist.
I think people are fed up with the current face of “religion”. I think people know little about the historical Jesus crucified for our salvation and alive to us for fellowship and intimacy today.Keep preaching Christ in this context.and “evangelism “will be real to the those in this troubled world today.
Hello Bishop Barron. I am wondering about whether of not we should forgive evil? Certainly murder must be the greatest sin a person can commit. Murder is evil is it not?
Bishop, Would you say it would comparable in the modern mind to say something akin to "Christ and Him water boarded." That visceral horror of torturous death.
Rutledge herself discusses this. She points out that crucifixion was a public torture and humiliation. Waterboarding is similarly torturous, but it is not done as public spectacle.
Meanwhile, I've yet to hear any influential clergy speak out on gun control, the police state, and the possibility of martial law in America, in response to the alleged terror attacks in the name of ISIS. It's all just books and reviews and cheeriness for some, isn't it? Must be nice to live in that blissful (yet deceptive) reality.
You should read Peter Kreeft's essay "How to win the culture war". It sort of describes the rotting of our culture and our world, but probably not in the way you would want or expect.
@@paranoidwaffle65 how many world problems have been solved by calling people hypocrites? It's truly the most pointless thing to say. We are all hypocrites in some way. The question is "so what"?
"They said in boast, "We killed Jesus son of Mary, messenger of Allah. but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made appear to them, and those who differ are therein are full in doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety, they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise".Quran.
Isn't Fleming Rutledge the first woman ordained as a priest in the Anglican Church? She has a website called "Generous Orthodoxy". I think the most orthodox thing she could do as a Christian woman would be to deny her priesthood on that same orthodoxy and truly begin to flourish as a theologian. As long as she lives a heresy, her other words fall on deaf ears. Maybe that is what Satan had in mind all along. Father Barron's reference to her only exacerbates the following and understanding of this Catholic teaching..............Pope Francis: "With regards to the ordination of women, the church has spoken and says no. Pope John Paul [II] said so with a formula that was definitive. That door is closed." He was referring to Pope John Paul's 1994 document, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis
She is an Episcopalian. Women were first ordained priests in The Episcopal Church in 1974. The Rev Rutledge was ordained in 1977. The Episcopal Church is a member of the Anglican Communion.
Wikipedia does not decide who is a member of the Anglican Communion, nor does the press, which mis-reported aspects of this story. The body that issued the "suspension" actually had no procedural right to do so, and even if it did, suspension is not expulsion.
Wow, very powerful message. Thanks, Bishop Barron. I pray we all have the courage to take up our crosses every day.
I revisit this more than any other segment that Bishop Barron has done. Moving and insightful work.
I took Bishop Barron's recommendation and purchased two copies of " The Crucifixion ". I am 1/4 way through it so far, and I see why Bishop Barron recommends this book so highly. True followers of Jesus should seek Him in knowledge from reliable sources, and this book is one such source.
This is one of the more passionate and profound messages that you have brought to light, Your Excellency.
God Bless, and keep up the good work!
Thanks Bishop Barron for especially wonderfully elaborating on Ch. 2 of her book!
This video eloquently (begins) to answer so many of the horrible things we see happening all over the world. It's certainly a FANTASTIC catalyst for conversation. Well done!
Thank you, Bishop Barron. That's one of the best videos from you that I've seen.
Bishop Barron. Thank you. I bought the book and then watched Ms. Rutledge on youtube. Can you have her as a guest on your show? It would be a blessing to watch you two talk about "The Crucifixion". God bless Father.
I read it a year ago and I agree it is an important book, one of the best theological books I've ever read.
Jesus have mercy on us
Another great video Bishop! I just have 2 things to say about it.
1. When I was teaching kids for Religious Ed (Grade 6) and we talked about the cross, and how painful it is. I tell them the equivalent of wearing a crucifix is like wearing a silver noose or electric chair. The cross only meant pain, humiliation and suffering. To have it as our symbol is baffling, but when we proclaim Christ Risen, we hold up the cross and say, "This does not hold power over me". The cross would be the ultimate act of terrorism, for people would fear it.
2. Today's world loves the "do not judge me" attitude. So, we see sin, and its subsequent effects, run rampant through the world. If we, as Christians, try to tell them about sin, we are dismissed saying we are not perfect as well, and who are we to judge. Many Christians see their own sinfulness and turn away for their own shame. We are all sinners, that is the truth. While we need to make sure that we work on the sins and temptations of our lives, helping others in the meantime is not bad or judging. Imagine that we have an anorexic person. The most loving act would be to tell them that they are wrong and need to stop. Imagine that we have a drug user. The most loving act would be to tell them that they are wrong and need to stop. But, when we try to defend the Church's definition of what's right and wrong, we are labeled as bigots and haters. We cannot be afraid to admit our own sin, and reliance on Jesus to save us. Honestly, the logic of the world is that a fat person shouldn't tell another fat person to lose weight. In this over simplified view, it is wrong. But, what if the one people were formerly even bigger and are in the middle of losing weight? They can grow together and support each other on the road to getting their lives right.I can tell you that when i tried changing my ways, it is tough. But, if you have somebody there to support you on your journey, it makes it more bearable.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings lol Another great video again! I may have to check out this book!
All I can say is POWERFUL! Thank u for this!
With men like Bishop Barron in the Roman priesthood, there is hope for the Gospel in the Roman Catholic Church.
I see now For those who were around to witness crucifixion. it was probably more stronger understood how humiliating it was for such a thing. Since now a day we do not see the kind of thing as much. so to us we sometimes don't understand its real Humiliation of it and how others witnessed such acts in the past. as many mock those on them and laugh. and many would probably gossip about so and so thinking its funny and well deserved. Thank you Bishop Barron for making me aware of this train of thought. I learn so much from your videos.
Amen! How can we talk of the cross and not talk about sin and why Jesus was hanging from the cross in the first place. Only when we can see our complete desolation of righteousness and our complete hopelessness can we only begin to understand the act of love and God's grace towards us. Who can save us. (not the church) Only Jesus who is the Christ.
Thanks as always, Bishop Barron! Have you heard though of Dr. Zugibe's analysis analysis of the crucifixion (from a medical/forensic side)? He seems to be (or was) pretty reliably the foremost expert in human crucifixion, and describes it as a perhaps even more horrifying type of death, not by Asphyxiation, but by multiple simultaneous types of shock.
Hi. I enjoyed your videos. I was wondering if you could do a video about the spirit of fear and do we such as ones suffering from anxeity or in general seek help through God?
God Bless
Very well put DSShakespeare. I for one appreciate the use of logic and citation of credible historical study to counter the seemingly "learned" ramblings of the Bishop, however pleasant and believable a character he may appear.
wow! very impresset at how inteligent this discussion is 🙌👍.
Dear Bishop your Catholic heart couldn't allow you to mention she's a Priest! Lol. She's one and we're grateful to God for her ministry to the Church. The Sun of revelation does not rise and fall only on the ROMAN Catholic Church!
She is not a priest.
She is also a priest.
I'm sorry if I was offensive with my previous statement about your defense. I do hope the best for you and the Church.
When the passion of the christ came out and even.today many people said It was a sadistic movie but i think Is a great representation of How brutal was the world in.wich jesús lived then when you understand How revolutionary Is the" love your enemy " messege
Enjoying the Shakespeare and Dante busts.
***** Well, now you've got me doubting too.
It's Dante
+Anjelus You're not the only one. Until I took in the cap, I would have sworn it was John Henry Newman.
I thought it was Chesterton and Dante!
Fleming Rutledge is not only a theologian and preacher, but she is an Episcopal Priest.
Excellent talk Bishop Barron.
I think Mel Gibson captured that in the scene where Jesus Christ carries his cross and then when Simon is pressed into helping him. The awful cruelty and taunting of his tormentors.
(It's like the scene in back to the Future borrowed from it's a wonderful Life. Something somehow is awfully hellishly gone wrong.
They walked away when presented with the Sacrament of Eucharist, but they ran away when challenged by the Cross.
Bishop, have you heard of the book "The Scandal of Sacramentality"? I've gone through about half of it and it's a similar stepping-back from heady theology and looking into the paradox of the incarnation and messiness of the human body coupled with the startling reality of eating the Divine God in the Eucharist.
Exactly
I think people are fed up with the current face of “religion”. I think people know little about the historical Jesus crucified for our salvation and alive to us for fellowship and intimacy today.Keep preaching Christ in this context.and “evangelism “will be real to the those in this troubled world today.
What is this piece of art at 3:40? Can anyone say. It is so realistic and lonely.
Wow
Hello Bishop Barron. I am wondering about whether of not we should forgive evil? Certainly murder must be the greatest sin a person can commit. Murder is evil is it not?
Thank you for your work too, very valuable indeed. Blessings.
We can tell how terrible sin is by the fact that the crucifiction of God was required to cure it.
Do a video on Pokemon Go
Bishop, Would you say it would comparable in the modern mind to say something akin to "Christ and Him water boarded." That visceral horror of torturous death.
Rutledge herself discusses this. She points out that crucifixion was a public torture and humiliation. Waterboarding is similarly torturous, but it is not done as public spectacle.
Meanwhile, I've yet to hear any influential clergy speak out on gun control, the police state, and the possibility of martial law in America, in response to the alleged terror attacks in the name of ISIS.
It's all just books and reviews and cheeriness for some, isn't it? Must be nice to live in that blissful (yet deceptive) reality.
God transcends and not everyone lives in America.
You should read Peter Kreeft's essay "How to win the culture war". It sort of describes the rotting of our culture and our world, but probably not in the way you would want or expect.
Turn off the TV and trust in your Maker
If you aren't devoting every minute of your life to addressing those problems (I agree, they are problems) then you are a hypocrite
@@paranoidwaffle65 how many world problems have been solved by calling people hypocrites? It's truly the most pointless thing to say. We are all hypocrites in some way. The question is "so what"?
This is too hard to understand! As if life itself isn't difficult enough as it is, I've got to get this too....it's just too much!
Pray for enlightenment. It belongs to those who come to God as children.
Imprimatur?
"They said in boast, "We killed Jesus son of Mary, messenger of Allah. but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made appear to them, and those who differ are therein are full in doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety, they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise".Quran.
Hoopoe This confirms the point that the crucifixion was shameful. But the clear evidence is that it truly happened.
Isn't Fleming Rutledge the first woman ordained as a priest in the Anglican Church? She has a website called "Generous Orthodoxy". I think the most orthodox thing she could do as a Christian woman would be to deny her priesthood on that same orthodoxy and truly begin to flourish as a theologian. As long as she lives a heresy, her other words fall on deaf ears. Maybe that is what Satan had in mind all along. Father Barron's reference to her only exacerbates the following and understanding of this Catholic teaching..............Pope Francis: "With regards to the ordination of women, the church has spoken and says no. Pope John Paul [II] said so with a formula that was definitive. That door is closed." He was referring to Pope John Paul's 1994 document, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis
She is an Episcopalian. Women were first ordained priests in The Episcopal Church in 1974. The Rev Rutledge was ordained in 1977. The Episcopal Church is a member of the Anglican Communion.
www.anglicancommunion.org/structures/member-churches.aspx
Thanks Mike. I will pray for all of God's children. God be with you.
Wikipedia does not decide who is a member of the Anglican Communion, nor does the press, which mis-reported aspects of this story. The body that issued the "suspension" actually had no procedural right to do so, and even if it did, suspension is not expulsion.
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