@@DeepCDiva It's in a true blockstring so at most, it prevents him from getting freely pressure after a snap, at most. There is a way to avoid it I think too
Dude jmcroft read my mind cause I swear lastnight I just rewatched go1 vs kazunoko in winner finals of world tour and one of the commentators brought up fuzzy guard. I remember thinking "What is that again?" because I always forget and now he makes a video explaining it!
Hey thanks Jm, im really glad that you have an answer for this kind of mixup, sometimes I was hit by one of those, so now I have a defense option thanks to you :D
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Thanks for this. I've tried to read about fuzzies a million times but it never seems to stick. This made it a lot easier to understand.
Fuzzy guard in Virtua Fighter was the goat! You block, slam left and right a bit to break stagger, then do a miniduck to escape a grab. Best game ever.
Goddamnit, it's always something with snapback lol. I kinda wish we could influence when to come back after snap(kinda like what you do after knockdown) so at least there's a chance to screw up the timing.
Uhhhhhh, I'm pretty sure that's the wrong definition for fuzzy. At least in 2d fighting games, Fuzzy guard is referring to how you deal with oki setups, where you input crouching guard first before standing guard in order to deal with the oppoonent's oki setups because in general mid attacks are slower. Reverse fuzzy is when you do the opposite because the opponent is trying to do an oki setup in the air (hence mid's are faster than lows). Fuzzy Jumps are a way to deal with throw Oki's, where you input standing guard first and jump right after. The technique you are mentioning here is not called a fuzzy but its called F Shiki/Kamone or Fuzzy Overhead (which is technically wrong, because it has nothing to do with Fuzzy, but whatever), and IS NOT called a fuzzy (which implies its a fuzzy guard). The overhead part is really important to distinguish the two
@jmcrofts can you do an updated season 2 tier list? Hook gang did one and put your boy krillin at the very bottom.. well, besides 17. I’m trying to put a team I like together before I try the game competitively and I’d like your thoughts or maybe your endorsement of his tier list so I can better choose my team.
Lord Infamous think about crouch blocking doing 2 separate things. 1- making your character crouch (smaller hitbox) and 2- telling the game you can now block lows but not highs. Now because of block stun these two processes can get “”desynced””. Thus you can’t crouch yet to reduce your hitbox but the attacks you can block has already changed.
@@chJohnJobs lol what? "mind games" definitely will not keep fuzzies at bay. and everybody knows how to block it, but you have to guess because it's a 50/50.
@@aaronbenno1849 Actually if you can condition your opponent, Or if they try and fuzzy to much then its extremely easy to punish. Thats the thing of mix ups, You gotta get in the opponents mind, If you know their options, and their current mental state towards the game. Then you'll know exactly what options they will take
@@chJohnJobs actually, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to fuzzies. you can OS the fuzzy and make it completely safe against every character besides broly and tien (their air level 3's can punish it). you shouldn't pretend to have knowledge, or experience, of things you have none about; it's easy for people who do have said knowledge/experience to spot. it's not a good look.
@@jmcrofts in what way is the fact that you are forcing them to stand cause them to get hit by the overhead? I realize they get hit because they are holding down back, but is it simply that blocking the attack forces you to stand which makes you tall enough to be hit by a jumping normal? And thus the reason it doesn't work on shorties is because even standing they are too short to get hit by instant overheads? This doesn't apply to IAD though. IAD into an attack is not considered an instant overhead though?
Yes it is because when you block an air normal, you are forced to stand for a few frames, which makes you tall enough to be hit by instant overheads. IAD isn't considered an instant overhead because it is reactable.
Can someone help me out with blocking inputs what im doing wrong cause on some games im holding back to block without smashing and somehow i still get hit like i wasn't even blocking
Kinda hard to explain but if you are playing on pad, holding back and leaning it towards up will make your charcter jump without actually pressing up on the dpad
I also have this problem. Usually when I say something about it no one believes me. Also, I get hit by lows even when blocking low if they time it to right before I land which is broken as hell since it doesn't let me do it to anyone. >_>
@@stephensumpter5311 they're alternating between crouching medium and standing light so they're catching you off guard maybe. you have to read their movements and block up and down accordingly
@@ismaeldiaz1805 listen my guy. I am on a 68 match win streak in ranked. They just straight hit me anyway. You can try to sweep it away as not a problem, but I play on Xbox and PC and experience the same issue in both places and have recorded some of them
I can’t believe it took people this long to notice this, it’s such bs but people are okay with getting hit with out actually getting hit. Too many laggy mashers get away with this and button mashers in general. Honestly needs to be fixed. This game gets boring when people use this busted mix up. It’s usually the same teams with the SSVegeta in their arsenal most likely. This game could be way better if they fixed so many things. Kind of felt like not playing anymore after I got 360 super dash after a teleport..
![[DBFZ] The DEFINITIVE GUIDE to Fuzzy Guard Mix up!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o_yTsInPI-Y/mqdefault.jpg)
So you're saying the definition is a bit fuzzy?
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Wow, now I fully support your decision to drop Cooler lol, this looks completely crippling to big bodies
I think Cooler's DP may get him out of it at least. But yeah, there's no advantage to being a big boy.
@@DeepCDiva It's in a true blockstring so at most, it prevents him from getting freely pressure after a snap, at most. There is a way to avoid it I think too
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Dude jmcroft read my mind cause I swear lastnight I just rewatched go1 vs kazunoko in winner finals of world tour and one of the commentators brought up fuzzy guard. I remember thinking "What is that again?" because I always forget and now he makes a video explaining it!
"fuzzy guard" is different from a "fuzzy". a fuzzy guard is a defensive technique.
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Hey thanks Jm, im really glad that you have an answer for this kind of mixup, sometimes I was hit by one of those, so now I have a defense option thanks to you :D
Thanks for this. I've tried to read about fuzzies a million times but it never seems to stick. This made it a lot easier to understand.
Fuzzy guard in Virtua Fighter was the goat! You block, slam left and right a bit to break stagger, then do a miniduck to escape a grab.
Best game ever.
Goddamnit, it's always something with snapback lol. I kinda wish we could influence when to come back after snap(kinda like what you do after knockdown) so at least there's a chance to screw up the timing.
You’re probably the only reason I would return to this game lol! Thanks for the vid.
Dude this is insane. I didnt know this was a thing but i heard the term fuzzy in a lot of tourney commentary.
Thank you man! I'm going to start to do thet stuff but I don't even how to started, thank you so much man! Keep up as always bro
Verdane may need to Change teams
Martin Cam he literally has 3 big bodies, his blocking skills are becoming monstrous
@@jamesspencer1235 ssj goku isn't considered a "big body" character.
Uhhhhhh, I'm pretty sure that's the wrong definition for fuzzy. At least in 2d fighting games, Fuzzy guard is referring to how you deal with oki setups, where you input crouching guard first before standing guard in order to deal with the oppoonent's oki setups because in general mid attacks are slower. Reverse fuzzy is when you do the opposite because the opponent is trying to do an oki setup in the air (hence mid's are faster than lows). Fuzzy Jumps are a way to deal with throw Oki's, where you input standing guard first and jump right after.
The technique you are mentioning here is not called a fuzzy but its called F Shiki/Kamone or Fuzzy Overhead (which is technically wrong, because it has nothing to do with Fuzzy, but whatever), and IS NOT called a fuzzy (which implies its a fuzzy guard). The overhead part is really important to distinguish the two
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Only here to find out what we are losing in the new patch
Characters with Godlike Fuzzy Guard setups
Gotenks
Bardock
Vegeta (Base)
Frieza
Piccolo
Kid Buu
Adult gohan
Krillin.... only because I main him AND I BELIEVE, I CAN SHOW YOU DA WAE MY BRUDDAH!!!
@jmcrofts can you do an updated season 2 tier list? Hook gang did one and put your boy krillin at the very bottom.. well, besides 17. I’m trying to put a team I like together before I try the game competitively and I’d like your thoughts or maybe your endorsement of his tier list so I can better choose my team.
Isn't there a gap between landing and jumping that the blocker can reflect or do an invincible move?
no it is a tight blockstring
jmcrofts Good to know, thanks!
Wondering when they’re going to replace the cover art with s picture of gotenks face
Hey! Can you plz give us a list of characters the fuzzy guard option works on?
And thank you 😊
Wait, do you still run into the bug if you set the dummy to block all and crouch? Cuz it could be due to the block first setting.
I’m still confused on why they get hit even though they’re still standing.
The game doesn't check your character positioning to decide wether you've blocked or not, it depends solely on your inputs.
Lord Infamous think about crouch blocking doing 2 separate things. 1- making your character crouch (smaller hitbox) and 2- telling the game you can now block lows but not highs. Now because of block stun these two processes can get “”desynced””. Thus you can’t crouch yet to reduce your hitbox but the attacks you can block has already changed.
Like he said "Even though I'm holding down back, I was forced to stand for a few frames and it hit me with jump forward light"
Thanks man for this useful video 📹 ♥✨
Nice dude thanks for the tip.
didnt know about fuzzys, now i kinda dislike them XD
john jobs everyone does. This why most people want only one big body on the team.
@@Shione_Starlight Id imagine, I run a fairly big team sometimes though if you know how to blick it, mind games can help keep fuzzys at bay
@@chJohnJobs lol what? "mind games" definitely will not keep fuzzies at bay. and everybody knows how to block it, but you have to guess because it's a 50/50.
@@aaronbenno1849 Actually if you can condition your opponent, Or if they try and fuzzy to much then its extremely easy to punish.
Thats the thing of mix ups, You gotta get in the opponents mind, If you know their options, and their current mental state towards the game.
Then you'll know exactly what options they will take
@@chJohnJobs actually, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to fuzzies. you can OS the fuzzy and make it completely safe against every character besides broly and tien (their air level 3's can punish it). you shouldn't pretend to have knowledge, or experience, of things you have none about; it's easy for people who do have said knowledge/experience to spot. it's not a good look.
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That's what hookganggod does is the fuzzy loop and hes a god at it
Fuzzies always felt like a bug to me, not really a fan. But i guess it's good to know the mechanics so i can watch out for it in matches
most mechanics in fighting games started out as bugs
Does it work online? Because when I test it on training mode it doesnt work, when I try to do a fuzzy after an airdash overhead
This is great for newbies but when are you gonna show them how to fuzzy small body characters? 👀
I felt like this was a thing for a while because I love Broly and Cooler but I swear blocking overheads with them takes lol
fuzzies have been around for over a decade in fighting games.
This confused me. Do you not block overheads by standing? Why does having the dummy stand up make it so you can hit them with an overhead?
even though the character model is standing, the opponent is holding down-back, so they still get opened up by overheads
@@jmcrofts in what way is the fact that you are forcing them to stand cause them to get hit by the overhead? I realize they get hit because they are holding down back, but is it simply that blocking the attack forces you to stand which makes you tall enough to be hit by a jumping normal? And thus the reason it doesn't work on shorties is because even standing they are too short to get hit by instant overheads? This doesn't apply to IAD though. IAD into an attack is not considered an instant overhead though?
Yes it is because when you block an air normal, you are forced to stand for a few frames, which makes you tall enough to be hit by instant overheads.
IAD isn't considered an instant overhead because it is reactable.
So this won't work on Goku sized characters?
no
@@jmcrofts thanks for the reply,I love watching your videos.Cant get enough of em.I learn alot cuz of it and it's really entertaining to watch you .
also about cell crouching i think hes just leaving blockstun.
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Can someone help me out with blocking inputs what im doing wrong cause on some games im holding back to block without smashing and somehow i still get hit like i wasn't even blocking
Kinda hard to explain but if you are playing on pad, holding back and leaning it towards up will make your charcter jump without actually pressing up on the dpad
I also have this problem.
Usually when I say something about it no one believes me.
Also, I get hit by lows even when blocking low if they time it to right before I land which is broken as hell since it doesn't let me do it to anyone. >_>
@@stephensumpter5311 they're alternating between crouching medium and standing light so they're catching you off guard maybe. you have to read their movements and block up and down accordingly
@@ismaeldiaz1805 listen my guy. I am on a 68 match win streak in ranked.
They just straight hit me anyway. You can try to sweep it away as not a problem, but I play on Xbox and PC and experience the same issue in both places and have recorded some of them
@@stephensumpter5311 getting hit with a low while you are about to land usually happens when you have already used your double jump.
Never knew there was a name for it
So... Krillin just moved up a tier?
most chars can do this
@@jmcrofts -cries- But my Krill boy!
The fuzzy wuzzy
Uncleeeeee!!
I can’t believe it took people this long to notice this, it’s such bs but people are okay with getting hit with out actually getting hit. Too many laggy mashers get away with this and button mashers in general. Honestly needs to be fixed. This game gets boring when people use this busted mix up. It’s usually the same teams with the SSVegeta in their arsenal most likely. This game could be way better if they fixed so many things. Kind of felt like not playing anymore after I got 360 super dash after a teleport..
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Sorry to burst your bubble but fuzzies are in pretty much every FG so you can hold that.
Oof I just understood what a fuzzy setup was, my world is forever changed
Now talk about SonicFox's Furry Setups
I see what you did there
@@eatyourash5571 Oh great zamasu, do you consider SonicFox to be a beautiful god, or is he a mere mortal?
Gianfranco Guevara he is gay, which makes him mortal
As a broly main i know this all too well
A fuzzy is closely related to furry. So im guessing its whatever sonicfox is or closely related.
Can't you just 2H when you see your opponent leave the ground?
no there is not a big enough gap
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it was funny like the first 2 times, now its getting stale
Fuzzumbled
Not a bug, it's fuzzy guard break
This is still!! The best fighting game,just add more stages and soundtracks plus a punishment for ragequtters thats it
you're talking about fuzzy overheads, fuzzy guard or fuzzy blocking is a sequence of blocking that covers high and low mixups at the same time.
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What if you reflect when you land? Doesn’t reflect come out on frame 1?
okodn its not guranteed that they will go high each time. If they go low it becomes a true block string
@@brandonnguyen8629 it's a true block string if they go high also.
Dropped cooler cause of this. Only play small bodies or medium guys now
That’s kind of stupid. Just don’t play 2 big body characters because you’ll get fuzzied to death. One is fine.
That’s easy Fuzy is Fuzy it’s that simple
Well now I know why bardocks like to loop my zamasu and cell in the corner. The game becomes really boring when that happens :/
Lmao I'm sorry but I had quite a chuckle imagining this
Snapback OP pls nerf
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Touch fuzzy, get...
...dang it, this game doesn't have a stun meter...
it is ROUGH for broly these days... ROUGH. so many indirect nerfs. too many... Arc doesn't even realize.
For some random reason, you can fuzzy ok frieza, stupid arcsys
Not going to lie I thought it said furry
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Well now I see why bardock is the great character he is. This sucks
Why
why would someone teach these dark arts v.v
i feel like this shouldnt be in the game
It’s in pretty much every FG so that ain’t gonna happen.
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