This was a very nice review that partially convinced me to buy the set. After having spent some time with it, I'd add the following: The materials are all of top notch quality, and will likely last longer than materials included with the average RPG starter set. At the same time, they took an organizational approach that seemed far too heavily tailored to the GM. Throughout the box were cautions telling you not to read this, and not to read that unless you were going to be the GM. This resulted in next to nothing related to the rules and game mechanics being tailored to someone who buys the box intending to be a player. Within the adventure book, I like the fact that the rules were integrated within the adventure, making life easier for the first time GM. But there really needed to be a more player centric version of the rules included, especially since Cubicle 7 doesn't offer anything in the way of free downloadable quick start rules (or at least none that I was able to find). I spent around $27 for the box. The quality of the materials were extremely nice, and the overall value of the box exceeds what I spent. But I do feel like the overall balance of the box was too heavily in favor of a purchaser who intends to be GM rather than a player. And maybe this was based on their gamble that most who buy this do indeed intend to be GM. But if that's the case, they really need to make a quick start version of the rules available online, preferably for free.
I agree with your criticisms. I did also notice that the Guide to Ubersreik seems to be very well done. Bringing Cubicle 7 into the game was a wise move because they have an established history of world-building experience. This also may explain why Cubicle 7 has lost (or voluntarily severed?) their Chaosium license. Runequest and WFRP are likely to directly compete with each other for market share. People can obviously buy both, but many (myself included) will likely only invest in one. That said, I'd buy this simply for ideas to draw from the Guide to Ubersreik.
I'm thinking of the first time buyer grabbing something off of a shelf. They may not be likely to spot the distinction on first inspection. Which is why Chaosium needs to get its Runequest Starter out soon. Most FLGS' are likely to display them right next to each other on the shelf.
That's very kind of you to say so. Fingers crossed eh? I also have a Patreon if that's your bag where I put my reviews up a week before I put them on here, and I am doing reviewing Masks of Nyarlathotep for them entirely before I put it on here - I am currently up to five parts with Part six coming soon.
Hi! Thanks for the video! I'd like to point out that the rules at the inside of the box must be organized that way so that you place it standing up, set in place with the bottom of the box. I used the dnd boxed sets that way at least, and the fact that there are no rules at the bottom reinforce this idea. They would be covered by the bottom of the box.
Wonderfully informative and helpful review, even if i would have actually appreciated some more spoilers as the GM to know what i am going to buy. Maybe worth having a spoiler section for future reviews? Or was there nothing major in it that would be worth that effort, so easy just to leave it out? Probably going to buy the digital version soon myself to run it with my main rpg group as we along with everyone else have decided to bail on d&d 5e, so trying out other systems. Blades in the Dark has been fun, but most players missing combat, so hopefully wfrp can scratch that itch.
Finally..... I have been eagerly waiting for your assessment of this. I have both this and the main rule book, and agree vehemently with your opinion of 4th edition. Will you be reviewing the main rule book at some point? I have Drachenfels for 1st edition and hope that they do a 4th edition version of that. It seems that they are leaning in that direction since Night of Blood has been released under the clever moniker "Old world adventures: Night of Blood"
I will be reviewing the 4E rulebook as soon as I own it! Drachenfels needs a SERIOUS workover to make it good for 4E. I have reviewed it on my channel a while back - check it out.
Did you read it all before recording? It sounds like you know what you are talking about! I'm looking forward to getting a copy of the Starter set. I have WFRP 3rd ed and like it very much, but I guess it's time to upgrade.
Yes, I read every single word before recording anything. I've played WFRP since 1st edition back in 1986. Third edition bears no resemblance at all to 1st, 2nd and 4th edition, so this edition will be something you're not used to I imagine. Don't forget to subscribe if you found it useful!
My players would never use pre-generated characters, so i would rather have seen them gone and have something in their place, a GMs screen and maybe a nice fold up map of Ubersreik. I'm still impressed with the box set, I'm even ok with the scenario, having tried Thousand Thrones as written and failing to keep them happy, this scenario should be easy. Another great review Bud.
Cubicle 7 has a GM screen planned for later this year. They also have a poster map for sale. www.cubicle7games.com/product/reikland-poster-map/?fbclid=IwAR3qp6JmGhg718ghTVuXsUXdooqprwQ6CU9Xktsx9wYPGdqio5x5p4KxZEk
Was paging through my copy yesterday. Sadly, everything but guide to Ubersreik there is a waste of paper. Runequest starter set looks similar, but is so much better in all respects.
I have to disagree. There is plenty there for those who want to dip their toes, and bear in mind that the Warhammer Starter Set was one of the inspirations behind the RuneQuest set.
I want to go on record by saying I'm put off a bit by the artwork and art direction, not to say its bad in fact its clearly very competent but it just doesn't seem to capture the gothic fantasy of older editions. What with the art direction leaves the setting seemly looking more high fantasy then sword and sorcery but I guess its in keeping with what's popular today.
I removed the wierd line on the pre-made characters. Using a black marker. They are odd and out of place. They look like a designer inside joke that got left in by accident.
@@stepansraka3608 What a shame, I hate these people Its more annoying when you are from outside the west, and these things are legit insulting or banned.
Your presentation was interesting, but unfortunately, the combination of your lighting and probably the paper colouring and texture rendered many of the pages effectively blank except for the illustrations on the page.
Hell, I might get this just for the setting booklet. Looks beautiful.
This was a very nice review that partially convinced me to buy the set. After having spent some time with it, I'd add the following:
The materials are all of top notch quality, and will likely last longer than materials included with the average RPG starter set. At the same time, they took an organizational approach that seemed far too heavily tailored to the GM. Throughout the box were cautions telling you not to read this, and not to read that unless you were going to be the GM. This resulted in next to nothing related to the rules and game mechanics being tailored to someone who buys the box intending to be a player.
Within the adventure book, I like the fact that the rules were integrated within the adventure, making life easier for the first time GM. But there really needed to be a more player centric version of the rules included, especially since Cubicle 7 doesn't offer anything in the way of free downloadable quick start rules (or at least none that I was able to find).
I spent around $27 for the box. The quality of the materials were extremely nice, and the overall value of the box exceeds what I spent. But I do feel like the overall balance of the box was too heavily in favor of a purchaser who intends to be GM rather than a player. And maybe this was based on their gamble that most who buy this do indeed intend to be GM. But if that's the case, they really need to make a quick start version of the rules available online, preferably for free.
I agree with your criticisms. I did also notice that the Guide to Ubersreik seems to be very well done. Bringing Cubicle 7 into the game was a wise move because they have an established history of world-building experience. This also may explain why Cubicle 7 has lost (or voluntarily severed?) their Chaosium license. Runequest and WFRP are likely to directly compete with each other for market share. People can obviously buy both, but many (myself included) will likely only invest in one. That said, I'd buy this simply for ideas to draw from the Guide to Ubersreik.
I think that RuneQuest and WFRP can compete in the same arena as they are very different flavours of fantasy.
I'm thinking of the first time buyer grabbing something off of a shelf. They may not be likely to spot the distinction on first inspection. Which is why Chaosium needs to get its Runequest Starter out soon. Most FLGS' are likely to display them right next to each other on the shelf.
@@RPGImaginings The danger there is rushing something out to market without it being "right" if you know what I mean.
Oh, absolutely. I want it to be right. My understanding is that its coming out this quarter or next though. I could be wrong about that.
@@RPGImaginings It's something I look forward to getting my hands on.
The only thing missing in this books are the old black and white illustrations from de old codex.. 🤔 they looked cooler
I too love the art in the 1E book, but the art here is great too.
@@BudsRPGreview true
5:29 I'm surprised no one mentioned that there is a Satriales meat shop in the TV series the Sopranos owned by the DiMeo crime family.
I love boxed sets! Very pleased with this one. I think that the setting book is really good. I agree with the comments about railroading though.
I don’t understand why you’ve only got 1,800 subscribers! Hopefully when people see this comment in a year, you’ll have 100k!
That's very kind of you to say so. Fingers crossed eh? I also have a Patreon if that's your bag where I put my reviews up a week before I put them on here, and I am doing reviewing Masks of Nyarlathotep for them entirely before I put it on here - I am currently up to five parts with Part six coming soon.
Just noticed this comment again and noticed that in a year my subs have doubled. I must be doing *something* right.
Hi! Thanks for the video! I'd like to point out that the rules at the inside of the box must be organized that way so that you place it standing up, set in place with the bottom of the box. I used the dnd boxed sets that way at least, and the fact that there are no rules at the bottom reinforce this idea. They would be covered by the bottom of the box.
I understand why they’ve done it, I just think it’s a bit crap.
Subscribed. Brilliant review, Bud!
Thanks for the sub!
maybe they like to be tickled by swords? Cuddled by axes?
That way lies death.
Interesting review - I like the extras, but I don't think I'll be buying the starter after this. Thanks for the info though!
Benjamin Paulson glad you found it useful.
Wonderfully informative and helpful review, even if i would have actually appreciated some more spoilers as the GM to know what i am going to buy. Maybe worth having a spoiler section for future reviews? Or was there nothing major in it that would be worth that effort, so easy just to leave it out?
Probably going to buy the digital version soon myself to run it with my main rpg group as we along with everyone else have decided to bail on d&d 5e, so trying out other systems. Blades in the Dark has been fun, but most players missing combat, so hopefully wfrp can scratch that itch.
I usually include a “spoilers ahead” warning, but must have forgotten for this one.
Thank you 🙏🏼
You’re welcome 😊
Finally..... I have been eagerly waiting for your assessment of this. I have both this and the main rule book, and agree vehemently with your opinion of 4th edition. Will you be reviewing the main rule book at some point?
I have Drachenfels for 1st edition and hope that they do a 4th edition version of that. It seems that they are leaning in that direction since Night of Blood has been released under the clever moniker "Old world adventures: Night of Blood"
I will be reviewing the 4E rulebook as soon as I own it! Drachenfels needs a SERIOUS workover to make it good for 4E. I have reviewed it on my channel a while back - check it out.
Did you read it all before recording? It sounds like you know what you are talking about! I'm looking forward to getting a copy of the Starter set. I have WFRP 3rd ed and like it very much, but I guess it's time to upgrade.
Yes, I read every single word before recording anything. I've played WFRP since 1st edition back in 1986. Third edition bears no resemblance at all to 1st, 2nd and 4th edition, so this edition will be something you're not used to I imagine.
Don't forget to subscribe if you found it useful!
3rd is great, if you like it, stick with it. This is NOT an upgrade. It is what people expected 3rd ed would be.
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Thanks muchly.
Great review, man. Good job.
Much appreciated!
My players would never use pre-generated characters, so i would rather have seen them gone and have something in their place, a GMs screen and maybe a nice fold up map of Ubersreik. I'm still impressed with the box set, I'm even ok with the scenario, having tried Thousand Thrones as written and failing to keep them happy, this scenario should be easy. Another great review Bud.
Cheers dude!
Cubicle 7 has a GM screen planned for later this year. They also have a poster map for sale. www.cubicle7games.com/product/reikland-poster-map/?fbclid=IwAR3qp6JmGhg718ghTVuXsUXdooqprwQ6CU9Xktsx9wYPGdqio5x5p4KxZEk
Yeah, I suspected they would.
Bloody brilliant review
Cheers dude!
Was paging through my copy yesterday. Sadly, everything but guide to Ubersreik there is a waste of paper. Runequest starter set looks similar, but is so much better in all respects.
I have to disagree.
There is plenty there for those who want to dip their toes, and bear in mind that the Warhammer Starter Set was one of the inspirations behind the RuneQuest set.
Good review. Picked up the starter set & look forward to trying it out. Why does the Warhammer RPG have such very Germanic names?
It's essentially set in medieval Germany.
I want to go on record by saying I'm put off a bit by the artwork and art direction, not to say its bad in fact its clearly very competent but it just doesn't seem to capture the gothic fantasy of older editions. What with the art direction leaves the setting seemly looking more high fantasy then sword and sorcery but I guess its in keeping with what's popular today.
You do you.
I removed the wierd line on the pre-made characters. Using a black marker. They are odd and out of place. They look like a designer inside joke that got left in by accident.
Hey it's your book.
@Old World Adventurers
The one about liking hugs
@Old World Adventurers
You cant take the character seriously after reading it.
Many C7 wfrp materials look like they were perfectly fine, but were changed by some malevolent editor to contain "the current thing".
@@stepansraka3608
What a shame, I hate these people
Its more annoying when you are from outside the west, and these things are legit insulting or banned.
Bought core book first......now want starter for character foldy sheets
Sadly, the Starter Set ones are pre-filled in.
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I bought the 4 e core book but didn't like it. The rules and art killed it for me. 2e all the way.
I mean… whatever floats your boat.
I wonder if this Age of Sigmar Warhammer or not.
It's Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.
@@BudsRPGreview So not Age of Sigmar! What a relief! I wondered if it's classic Warhammer or Age of Sigmar.
Sadly you can see the insidious cult of SJW in 4th edition. Worse than any Chaos cult. Tickling and cuddling? Oooh very grim & dark.
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Its infecting the minds of middle class 30 somethings the world over!
Your presentation was interesting, but unfortunately, the combination of your lighting and probably the paper colouring and texture rendered many of the pages effectively blank except for the illustrations on the page.
Yeah, nothing I could do about that sadly due to the reflective paper. I tried adjusting the light in Premier Pro to no avail.
You're hands are over acting.
I will let them know.