As a Motocross race announcer for twenty years, and a sound engineer for 30, i will admit i own both. The Mackies go with me to the races where i have a small mixer already present AND i know the weather is gonna be decent. The harbingers go with me where there is not a mixer simply because of all the different connections. I can say that after a year of dust, rain, getting dropped, mishandled, and whatever else the harbingers are still kicking a$$. Yes, the Mackies have a bit more of a "pro sound" to them and i do get a bit more throw but I'm covering ALOT of area. If/when the harbingers finally do let me down, i will but another set no questions asked. I like the Mackies for music quality, but for what i do they both perform great. Not to mention the price. I hope this helps. Nice review
About the mid / highs --- I demo'ed the Harbinger in the store up against the Alto, the Mackie, the QSC, the Yamaha and the EV models. I found the mid / high results to favor the Harbinger as you did. To me, only the EV's out-performed the Harbinger in the mid /high range but the performance of the EV was only slightly better than the Harbinger. I bought the Harbinger over the EV because the EV was nearly twice the price. The EV was also a bit lighter in weight than the Harbinger -- which is important to me because I do carry my equipment from gig to gig. But still, the Harbinger's performance in the high range is what made my final decision. Btw, I am a keyboardist and I use these powered speakers as a stage monitor in a band, NOT as a DJ. Most of the time we play larger places with a stage and plenty of wiggle room. But sometimes we play much smaller places and I need the oomf and high output from horns so I can hear myself as I play. The Harbinger gives me that extra edge to be able to hear my performance over the guitars/bass/drums/vox. The soundmen like the XLR direct out so I can go right to main PA mixer and still use the speaker as an on-stage monitor. I also like the 3 inputs -- very flexible since I use a 3 keyboards stack. So I don't need a separate mixer. I have used this setup with the Harbinger powered speaker for about a year and a half now, roughly 75 gigs and I would say overall, except for the weight of the unit, I'm very satisfied.
The Harbingers are 500W RMS (continuous power output) power...the 2000W only refers to the speaker's peak power (a nano second of 2000W without blowing the speaker). You are easily able to use these as FOH with a couple sub's...
I had a pair of Mackie thump A15 I sold them and got a pair of harbingers... the harbingers sound way way better then the Mackies did.. and when you turn the harbinger up they really hit harder.... thank you for your review..
Just bought 2 v2315 yesterday and they absolutely kick ass and slap. I'm 100% satisfied. No need to buy anything else for 300$ a speaker at guitar center. Glad this video reinforced my choice. Thank you.
I love the Harbinger i just bought one and no complaints about it. There are good options for connectivity, and very very loud, so you can't go wrong with it
The Mackie sounds muffled because you had it on a certain setting. You can change the settings in the back to get the sound you want. The Mackie's fucking ROCK. They're also really good for electronic drums!
Thank you for pointing that out... it was exactly what I was thinking during the test. Other sites reviewing the Mackie Thump talk about the settings and how it doesn't always sound great right when you buy it. That's too bad, but Mackie gives the ability to tweak the sound, and isn't everyone different on what they want in the sound?
I agree! reading this thread... almost made me question my ears. I own a pair of Thumps 15A and I am grateful that most of the time I don't need to bring a sub.
For the price difference my money would definitely go for the harbinger especially when guitar center runs them on sale for $199 really can’t beat that
Best speakers out there for DJs are Yamahas, QSC, RCF hands down. Expensive as heck but 5-yr warranty, I believe. Can't beat that. Unfortunately 2022 low stock. Every brand, prices have sky rocketed of the chain! Those that purchased speakers 2-4 yrs ago. Smart lucky you! Great videos dude...👍!
Great comparison of these two speakers. In this video, the harbinger sounded clearer than the mackies, especially with the mic test and i like the fact that you can adjust the bass and treble on the Harbinger. I bought a pair of the Harbinger vari v2315 on sale on black friday, and i went with the harbinger speakers instead of the mackie thumps or jbl eons, not because of the price, since i could of bought more expensive speakers in the thousands, but because i like the sound of the Harbingers than the other two and some others, i think it sounds louder and clearer, and has more mids and highs, and the bass is great and not overpowering like the mackie thumps or jbl eons. So far im loving the Harbinger speakers.
The Harbinger Vari series have a great sound, but the previous versions that I have lack the power needed to be main speakers, I use them as monitors. I would like to test this new 2000 watt series to see if it can handle the power needs of a deejay before I can give it a thumbs up as main speakers.
Having a lighter cone and less stiff suspension is a good thing, better efficiency. its also not meant to reproduce sub frequencies so. Did the Tweeter soudsn the same as the older thump 15s with a larger waveguide?
Flat: A graphic equalizer has usually 31 sliders, one for each frequency band, which will cut or boost each, plus or minus dB. Usually you will set the EQ to tailor the room, cutting out booms and eliminating feedback ring. Looking at the positions of the various sliders suggests an EQ "curve". When all the sliders are all halfway (O dB) and in a straight line. That is called "flat".
bought 2 Harbingers at $299 each at Guitar Center Times Square NYC yesterday. Had intended to get the Eon615 or the Alto315s but thein store demo totally changed my mind.
Nice review. I've heard the H's over a year ago and thought they sounded decent. I just returned a brand new pair of AltoTS312's. I wanted to like them but there's to many reviews out there about the tweeters blowing up! I got Mackie 15A's at the same price and discount as the Alto 12's. As a 43 yr Dj I've been around the block and back and with age as a factor, I don't want to lug a sub, so Mackie Thumps have always delivered for me. It was a hard decision but it had to be dome.
I wonder what the results would be if you put the Mackie driver in the Harbinger cabinet? Would the bass response improve? The Mackie speaker looks like it would be a better low frequency speaker. Give that a shot and do another video for us.
I love the Harbinger Vari series for monitors. They produce a very clean sound for the singers. However they are not good for use as your main speakers in my experience. If you push too much bass into them the limiter will shut them down for a few seconds and this will occur constantly until you lower the volume or adjust the EQ. I own a few of the 600 watt version, hopefully they've made this new 2000 watt version you're reviewing much better at handling power, but I doubt it.
Yeah, I own the 1st and 2nd versions, I skipped the 3rd version and bought the 4th version, I haven't had any problems with the bass cutting sound on the 4th version even when playing full range. The first and second version I usually turn the bass to zero and the highs to about 2 o'clock and let my subs do all the work. I haven't heard of any problems with the 3rd version but unfortunately the 4th version has either a problem with the crossover or the driver. My highs went out on one and I had to replace it under warranty at Guitar Center. I haven't had any problems yet with the replacement.
Yeah, SRM 450 V2s are actually incredible speakers, and they are built really well! The plastic case is super thick, and the frame of the woofer inside is really heavy cast metal. They appeared to have neodymium magnets though, so they are not actually super heavy. The boxes are padded on the inside for sound, and have really good cable management! Funny story about those cables though, someone before me took apart one of my school band’s speakers and messed up the wiring. It ended up touching the rear of the cone and rattling. Our equipment, though owned by the school, is cared for by the students, so I was allowed to fix the issue, which is why I’ve seen the inside of one. Our all-school assemblies (which usually include music) sound just a bit better now!
Thanks 🙏🏽👍🏽 for this comparison . Have you made a comparison between the Mackie Thump 12A & the Harbinger V2312?
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I bought a Mackie Thump 15A today and its bass is flat as an ironing board. Mackie just sounds clean but flat. I am returning this speaker to the store.
Hello, please tell us what is best for DJ, live vocals and conducting events, weddings, banquets for up to 130 people. MAckie Thump 15A + SAB Alto ts 312s or Alto Ts 315+ SAB ts 312s ? Not only the volume is important, but also the quality. Thanks
Just ordered a pair of these and they make a terrible humming sound when on , nothing plugged in, with all the levels in the built in mixer at 0 connected to a power conditioner! Is this normal?? Also switch between voicings they pop super hard. I know it's not the wiring in my house because I have a set of Mackie thumps and they do not make the humming sound
ikr. I have 2 QSC K10 K2's 10 inch 2,000 watt speakers and no sub. i don't wanna haul around a sub with 2 speakers. So i'm just gonna stick with 2 speakers
I have two 18" and 4 15" harbinger older model beening using for DJ gigs depending on size of venue is what I take down, but I have done up to 300 people no problem.....
Did any of you have a hiss from the Harbinger 2315 when demoing them? I just bought a set and the hiss seems to be pretty loud even with volume all the way down.
You have to remember.... your comparing 2,000 watts to 1,300 watts. Then you said the Mackie sound muffled... what did you even use to play both speakers? The harbinger has a bass and treble knob so I'm sure it'll sound decent on a cellphone but play that Mackie on a mixer that has treble, mid and bass then compare the sound .
Through a mixer you can adjust the tops on the mackie. They are far superior. UPDATE...on testing out these I found at very low volume they were fine but anything over 50 or 50 people they will struggle. I don't know where the 2300 watts went. VERY bad speaker.
I'm debating about waiting for the 12" to go on sale for $199 each. On the other hand I can get a jbl eon 610 for $275. Which would you recommend instead?
if you don't wanna haul around a sub or couple subs and you want some good bass with the just the speakers, go for the Mackie Thump15A's. They sound insanely amazing without a subwoofer. These speakers have strong bass and mids and trebles. if you want to haul around a small amount of speakers, just go for 2 of the speakers. it's alittle bit longer setup if you have a sub with a couple speakers
This is probably a dumb question 😅 but will one of those suffice for just bedroom listening? Or two for stereo? I don't do anything just looking to listen to music at high volume 😂
That Harbinger speaker body design looks just like the QSC Speakers. I have 2 QSC K1 K10 2,000 watt speakers and hopefully at somepoint on i will get 2 of the Mackie Thump15A's or the other version with the screen. Can i control the speakers with the Mackie Thump device controller app to also control their/there EQ's? Which version of the Mackie Thump 15's has the screens? I wanna getthe QSC 3,000 watt 18 inch subwoofer but it is soooo frickin expensive! Brand new. When'ever i buy speakers and subs, i always getthem brand new. Just incase of the used ones would have any issues/problems outta nowhere Ya know. ( No offense to anyone, not hating on anyone ) - That Harbinger speaker has the exact body enclosure design just like the QSC Speakers. QSC K speakers are 8 inch 10 inch and 12 inches. I wish they had a 15 inch QSC K. / K.1 Speaker size. I chose the 10 inch because it's less price than the 12 inch i think. it costed me $1,500 for to buy 2 K10 K1's.. For a notice, i'ma DJ that is 24 Years old and i been DJ'ing for about i think 7 years now. I used to have 2 rockville 15 inch Speakers for awhile. They sounded honestly pretty good but i have had them for awhile. And then about 7 months ago i sold my 2 rockville 15 inch speakers ( Both rockville speakers are 800 watts ). Then i went to Guitar Center and did see the Mackie Thump15A's but i had my parents with me and they told me not to get those. They told me and wanted me to get the QSC K10 K.1 10 inch 2,000 watt speakers. I sound tested the QSC ones and my parents said they sound pretty good. To my personal opinion, they legit sounded kinda shitty. I sound tested those Mackie Thump 15A's 1300 watt speakers and i was like oh my god holly shit i want to get these Mackie Thump speakers. But my parents forced me t obuy the 2 QSC K10 K1 Speakers. I have been using the QSC speakers for many years aswell. They do sound okay but i like those Mackie Thumps the most. But hopefully i will get those Mackie Thump15A's as a birthday gift or a christmas gift. I do like the QSC's and Mackie Thumps. I also did like the 800 watt Rockville 15 inch speakers. I also got a dual pole stand bag to carry the 2 pole stands while i can carry the speakers. The 800 watt Rockville 15 inch speakers did sound prety fucking good onthe bass and treble and some mids. But i wanted to upgrade my 2 DJ speakers. I've gotten my Peavey Mic and Peavey PA12 EQ Mixer and alot of my XLR cables from marshal and Guitar Center. Guitar Center is my most favorite store!
( i also sound tested the speakers before i bought them aswell. The Mackie Thump15A's i honestly really like alot. But the QSC K10 K.2 speakers does sound okay. The mids and treble is strong but the bass isn't strong enough. ) - I always have the speakers EQ setting on Studio for the best bass response. The other EQ settings just kinda suck. That is why i always use the Studio EQ setting. I also don't wanna buy and use a subwoofer around with my DJ gigs. I would like to use the 2 big speakers for loud bass and treble and mids. I like the Mackie Thumps so i'm gonna go with the Mackie Thump15A's ( 2 of them ) And maybe at somepoint on sell my 2 QSC Speakers to someone maybe? if i do get the Mackie Thump15A's.
I'm trying to setup a home karaoke system and was looking to purchase a set of BMB speakers, do you think any of these two speakers will make a good alternative? Thanks!
That is funny.i had a bit of a problem on how to pronounce harbinger as well.they could of made the name better for sure.i thought the harbinger sounded better as well.great review.thanks for the help.
The true test is putting a 4 pc or 5 piece band through them. How they hold up. How they manage the load. How they keep from limiting and distortion. I'm not sure these companies understand the need when we're looking at speakers. They falsely advertise power and their speakers can't hold up a decent volume without clipping. Not cool.
I legit have 2 QSC K10 K2's and no subs. I don't wanna haul around a big fat or small sub while hauling around my 2 speakers. I've used these QSC speakers for awhile. i am thinking of getting 2 Mackie Thump15A's because i think they do sound pretty awesome. Plus you can use an app on devices for to do a manual EQ ( i might be wrong though )
Ha-ha...Seriously Mackie speakers are designed to have a completely flat response. If you know anything about pro audio a flat response is 100 percent what you're looking for in PA speakers. With a flat response it is then in the power of the engineer to adjust and add the audio highs, lows , mids to the venue size, amount of people ect.
@@2DudesAudio taking into consideration the speakers are literally $300. so yeah any speaker in that price range is going to sound like a frikin cardboard box dude. but if that's all someone can afford Mackies are definitely a great speaker in that price range.
@@javamon I believe the default is none. You can select one of those 4 or turn off. And if I'm wrong from memory it was on whatever default is, which might be music
Harbinger v2315s are 249.99 at guitar center rn and the v2318s 2,400watt subwoofer is 549.99. I wanna get more involved with mixing bass music and dubstep so I might trade my Gibson SG that I don't use much anymore for the pair of 15s and the woofer. Anyone know if this would be a good setup for dubstep/riddim/future bass etc?
I just bought 2 of 15 inch versions for $150 each though Musicians Friend. I'm happy with them. Have a sub on the way. Thanks for the review. I was wondering what they looked like inside. Now I don't have to wonder. lol
@@ZacPettyMusic The Harbingers. I push them fairly hard and they still sound as good as they did when I got them. I have to admit though I did put a small burn on one of the tweeters. It fuzzes a bit at high levels now. Not Harbingers fault.
As a Motocross race announcer for twenty years, and a sound engineer for 30, i will admit i own both. The Mackies go with me to the races where i have a small mixer already present AND i know the weather is gonna be decent. The harbingers go with me where there is not a mixer simply because of all the different connections. I can say that after a year of dust, rain, getting dropped, mishandled, and whatever else the harbingers are still kicking a$$. Yes, the Mackies have a bit more of a "pro sound" to them and i do get a bit more throw but I'm covering ALOT of area. If/when the harbingers finally do let me down, i will but another set no questions asked. I like the Mackies for music quality, but for what i do they both perform great. Not to mention the price. I hope this helps. Nice review
About the mid / highs --- I demo'ed the Harbinger in the store up against the Alto, the Mackie, the QSC, the Yamaha and the EV models. I found the mid / high results to favor the Harbinger as you did. To me, only the EV's out-performed the Harbinger in the mid /high range but the performance of the EV was only slightly better than the Harbinger. I bought the Harbinger over the EV because the EV was nearly twice the price. The EV was also a bit lighter in weight than the Harbinger -- which is important to me because I do carry my equipment from gig to gig. But still, the Harbinger's performance in the high range is what made my final decision. Btw, I am a keyboardist and I use these powered speakers as a stage monitor in a band, NOT as a DJ. Most of the time we play larger places with a stage and plenty of wiggle room. But sometimes we play much smaller places and I need the oomf and high output from horns so I can hear myself as I play. The Harbinger gives me that extra edge to be able to hear my performance over the guitars/bass/drums/vox. The soundmen like the XLR direct out so I can go right to main PA mixer and still use the speaker as an on-stage monitor. I also like the 3 inputs -- very flexible since I use a 3 keyboards stack. So I don't need a separate mixer. I have used this setup with the Harbinger powered speaker for about a year and a half now, roughly 75 gigs and I would say overall, except for the weight of the unit, I'm very satisfied.
How does it compare to a rolling Casey oramp to a Roland KC or a behringer or peavey keyboard amp, in terms of loudness, clarity, etc?
The Harbingers are 500W RMS (continuous power output) power...the 2000W only refers to the speaker's peak power (a nano second of 2000W without blowing the speaker). You are easily able to use these as FOH with a couple sub's...
Seeing you take apart the speaker and show us the guys…. I love that you go that in depth.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the Vari does have an LED button.
I had a pair of Mackie thump A15 I sold them and got a pair of harbingers... the harbingers sound way way better then the Mackies did.. and when you turn the harbinger up they really hit harder.... thank you for your review..
@@mikelachendro488 me to.
Not a chance do i believe this is serious talk 😂
Just bought 2 v2315 yesterday and they absolutely kick ass and slap. I'm 100% satisfied. No need to buy anything else for 300$ a speaker at guitar center. Glad this video reinforced my choice. Thank you.
Definitely I would go with Harbinger one over Thump... Better sound and price...
I love the Harbinger i just bought one and no complaints about it. There are good options for connectivity, and very very loud, so you can't go wrong with it
Mackie have the support, reputation and history behind them.
For the Mackie thump 15a, FYI you would used the app. To adjust the sound to fit your own need and level.
Can i use the Mackie Thump app on my phone to the Mackie Thump15A's or no? Mackie Thump15A's have built in bluetooth too right?
The Mackie sounds muffled because you had it on a certain setting. You can change the settings in the back to get the sound you want. The Mackie's fucking ROCK. They're also really good for electronic drums!
Thank you for pointing that out... it was exactly what I was thinking during the test. Other sites reviewing the Mackie Thump talk about the settings and how it doesn't always sound great right when you buy it. That's too bad, but Mackie gives the ability to tweak the sound, and isn't everyone different on what they want in the sound?
I agree! reading this thread... almost made me question my ears. I own a pair of Thumps 15A and I am grateful that most of the time I don't need to bring a sub.
For the price difference my money would definitely go for the harbinger especially when guitar center runs them on sale for $199 really can’t beat that
Mackies only cost 50 pound more per piece your just a cheap ass
Love the review. Very detailed across, gives me different perspective as I was going to pick thump215
Tear down a bass boss dv12..
They cost $3000 each .. really like to see what's inside to justify that price.
We would too! Maybe they'll send us one but if not we sadly dont have that kind of money to throw at that.
mm 2018 it uses a 12 inch b&c woofer you could also call it a subwoofer driver...
B&C drivers.
Best speakers out there for DJs are Yamahas, QSC, RCF hands down. Expensive as heck but 5-yr warranty, I believe. Can't beat that. Unfortunately 2022 low stock. Every brand, prices have sky rocketed of the chain! Those that purchased speakers 2-4 yrs ago. Smart lucky you! Great videos dude...👍!
To get the spades out on the harbingers, there is a small tab on the back that you have to push out.
Hey where are they located
Thanks for the review!
How about Mackie vs QSC
Great comparison of these two speakers. In this video, the harbinger sounded clearer than the mackies, especially with the mic test and i like the fact that you can adjust the bass and treble on the Harbinger. I bought a pair of the Harbinger vari v2315 on sale on black friday, and i went with the harbinger speakers instead of the mackie thumps or jbl eons, not because of the price, since i could of bought more expensive speakers in the thousands, but because i like the sound of the Harbingers than the other two and some others, i think it sounds louder and clearer, and has more mids and highs, and the bass is great and not overpowering like the mackie thumps or jbl eons. So far im loving the Harbinger speakers.
Now im thinking I should go for the second
The Harbinger Vari series have a great sound, but the previous versions that I have lack the power needed to be main speakers, I use them as monitors. I would like to test this new 2000 watt series to see if it can handle the power needs of a deejay before I can give it a thumbs up as main speakers.
I had a pair of the versions before the vari series they were good but the vari series afe way more improved
@@gerardgmz Go to a local music store like guitar center and listen to them for real, before you choose one.
Having a lighter cone and less stiff suspension is a good thing, better efficiency. its also not meant to reproduce sub frequencies so. Did the Tweeter soudsn the same as the older thump 15s with a larger waveguide?
Don't even ask him that, he won't give you a proper answer.
Flat: A graphic equalizer has usually 31 sliders, one for each frequency band, which will cut or boost each, plus or minus dB.
Usually you will set the EQ to tailor the room, cutting out booms and eliminating feedback ring. Looking at the positions of the various sliders suggests an EQ "curve".
When all the sliders are all halfway (O dB) and in a straight line. That is called "flat".
The V2315 is priced at $299 VS the Thump at $349
bought 2 Harbingers at $299 each at Guitar Center Times Square NYC yesterday. Had intended to get the Eon615 or the Alto315s but thein store demo totally changed my mind.
Yes but pretty much every single holiday the harbinger goes down another 50 dollars to 249
Nice review. I've heard the H's over a year ago and thought they sounded decent. I just returned a brand new pair of AltoTS312's. I wanted to like them but there's to many reviews out there about the tweeters blowing up! I got Mackie 15A's at the same price and discount as the Alto 12's. As a 43 yr Dj I've been around the block and back and with age as a factor, I don't want to lug a sub, so Mackie Thumps have always delivered for me. It was a hard decision but it had to be dome.
Which one do you recommend when your Djing at a medium to large size event when trying to cover a lot of ground without having to get a sub?
No sub? Get the Mackie for the extra low end (I know... 7 month late response).
@@PURESOUND4 it’s all good bro and I appreciate it
What are your thoughts on the JBL EON 615 speakers?
@@music_is_life95 I haven't personally used the Eons, but they are popular with local bands here in NC.
@@music_is_life95 I've used the Alto TS3 series speakers, and for the money they're pretty good.
On the Mackie eq Preset, Mon is for Monitor use. It doesn't mean Mono, it's Monitor.
I wonder what the results would be if you put the Mackie driver in the Harbinger cabinet? Would the bass response improve? The Mackie speaker looks like it would be a better low frequency speaker. Give that a shot and do another video for us.
Good review been wanin to upgrade to harbinger👌🏽
The harbinger wins. A few years down the road, the JBL The makies, and so on would hide. This harbinger company is rising strong.
I love the Harbinger Vari series for monitors. They produce a very clean sound for the singers. However they are not good for use as your main speakers in my experience. If you push too much bass into them the limiter will shut them down for a few seconds and this will occur constantly until you lower the volume or adjust the EQ. I own a few of the 600 watt version, hopefully they've made this new 2000 watt version you're reviewing much better at handling power, but I doubt it.
Yup they new version are way better
Yeah, I own the 1st and 2nd versions, I skipped the 3rd version and bought the 4th version, I haven't had any problems with the bass cutting sound on the 4th version even when playing full range. The first and second version I usually turn the bass to zero and the highs to about 2 o'clock and let my subs do all the work. I haven't heard of any problems with the 3rd version but unfortunately the 4th version has either a problem with the crossover or the driver. My highs went out on one and I had to replace it under warranty at Guitar Center. I haven't had any problems yet with the replacement.
Super happy with the mackie thump15a! True. They sound amazing!
That’s why you need to get the sub if you want the more bass 👍🏻, I still need another 15 of the new v4115 and the sub 😎
i still have and use the mackie srm 450 v2 im happy with the sound and think they still good for mobile dj like them better then the qsc cp 12
Yeah, SRM 450 V2s are actually incredible speakers, and they are built really well! The plastic case is super thick, and the frame of the woofer inside is really heavy cast metal. They appeared to have neodymium magnets though, so they are not actually super heavy. The boxes are padded on the inside for sound, and have really good cable management! Funny story about those cables though, someone before me took apart one of my school band’s speakers and messed up the wiring. It ended up touching the rear of the cone and rattling. Our equipment, though owned by the school, is cared for by the students, so I was allowed to fix the issue, which is why I’ve seen the inside of one. Our all-school assemblies (which usually include music) sound just a bit better now!
For those who dont know, Harbinger is Guitars Centers store brand...
Can you review the latest version of the Harbinger VARI V4115 15 inch 2500w there's not a single video or review of them online
Seriously, the videos I get it because Harbinger just put out their own video a couple of weeks ago. But it's super weird to see no reviews anywhere.
I tear into bad reviews - this is a very good and super helpful review channel - badass really. Subbed
I use Mackie 15a always nice when your told to turn the volume down I’m like that’s not even half volume haha
Same im going deaf slowly haha
Can i disassemble them for transportation to manage space? Is there any problems associated with it?
Thanks 🙏🏽👍🏽 for this comparison .
Have you made a comparison between the Mackie Thump 12A & the Harbinger V2312?
I bought a Mackie Thump 15A today and its bass is flat as an ironing board. Mackie just sounds clean but flat. I am returning this speaker to the store.
Hello, please tell us what is best for DJ, live vocals and conducting events, weddings, banquets for up to 130 people. MAckie Thump 15A + SAB Alto ts 312s or Alto Ts 315+ SAB ts 312s ? Not only the volume is important, but also the quality. Thanks
Thanks bro I had a feeling that the Mackie tops were a little overrated. I may go with generic tops "Rockville 12's" and a good set of subs
Just ordered a pair of these and they make a terrible humming sound when on , nothing plugged in, with all the levels in the built in mixer at 0 connected to a power conditioner! Is this normal?? Also switch between voicings they pop super hard. I know it's not the wiring in my house because I have a set of Mackie thumps and they do not make the humming sound
Excellent review and teardown. 👍🏾
Next should be harbinger vs alto ts 315
We will be doing more head to head videos again in the next few weeks!
The Alto has a more mid range sound in my opinion vs the Harbinger.
Could you please do a teardown on Mackie DRM series and JBL SRX series
"I'm assuming mon is for mono" 🙄😂😂😂😂😂its for monitor you nugget ffs !!!
Oops hahaha
Great REVIEW i just Purchased The Harbinger 2315s
And you liked them
@@oescolante15 there great awesome sound .
@@sircedric5 there on sale right now on guitar center $250 V2315
@@sircedric5 just purchased 2 2315s harbinger yesterday there nice
@@oescolante15 I just ordered the longer extension cord for them on Amazon cause them cord's are very short
The Harbinger looks like a QSC kw152.
ikr. I have 2 QSC K10 K2's 10 inch 2,000 watt speakers and no sub. i don't wanna haul around a sub with 2 speakers. So i'm just gonna stick with 2 speakers
I have two 18" and 4 15" harbinger older model beening using for DJ gigs depending on size of venue is what I take down, but I have done up to 300 people no problem.....
Did any of you have a hiss from the Harbinger 2315 when demoing them? I just bought a set and the hiss seems to be pretty loud even with volume all the way down.
I have that Mackie right now. About to get the 18 inch subwoofer soon
How is the sub?
Good review thanks
What speakers you recommend for a hard rock band running drums, guitar, vocals through it?
The mackies are AMAZING!!
You have to remember.... your comparing 2,000 watts to 1,300 watts. Then you said the Mackie sound muffled... what did you even use to play both speakers? The harbinger has a bass and treble knob so I'm sure it'll sound decent on a cellphone but play that Mackie on a mixer that has treble, mid and bass then compare the sound .
Through a mixer you can adjust the tops on the mackie. They are far superior.
UPDATE...on testing out these I found at very low volume they were fine but anything over 50 or 50 people they will struggle. I don't know where the 2300 watts went. VERY bad speaker.
I'm glad you saw the light at the end of the tunnel😁
I'd tell you guys where the 2300 watts went, but that wouldn't be polite from my part. Lol
I'm debating about waiting for the 12" to go on sale for $199 each. On the other hand I can get a jbl eon 610 for $275. Which would you recommend instead?
What brand and model speakers would you recommend for electronic drums?
which speaker would be a good upgrade for the mackie and harbinger ?
if you don't wanna haul around a sub or couple subs and you want some good bass with the just the speakers, go for the Mackie Thump15A's. They sound insanely amazing without a subwoofer. These speakers have strong bass and mids and trebles. if you want to haul around a small amount of speakers, just go for 2 of the speakers. it's alittle bit longer setup if you have a sub with a couple speakers
This is probably a dumb question 😅 but will one of those suffice for just bedroom listening? Or two for stereo? I don't do anything just looking to listen to music at high volume 😂
Is harbinger speaker good and loud and good quality?
First the price it's not bad!
This is a real Review!!
how many oms. is the harbinger 15 speaker
I would replace the speakers with JBL 15".... and should solve some of the issues...
What speakers do u think are the best for the price ? (All speakers not just the ones in the vid)
QSC and RCF are our usual suggestion. Doesn't mean there isnt plenty of other great companies to buy from! But those two are the go to.
That Harbinger speaker body design looks just like the QSC Speakers. I have 2 QSC K1 K10 2,000 watt speakers and hopefully at somepoint on i will get 2 of the Mackie Thump15A's or the other version with the screen. Can i control the speakers with the Mackie Thump device controller app to also control their/there EQ's? Which version of the Mackie Thump 15's has the screens? I wanna getthe QSC 3,000 watt 18 inch subwoofer but it is soooo frickin expensive! Brand new. When'ever i buy speakers and subs, i always getthem brand new. Just incase of the used ones would have any issues/problems outta nowhere Ya know. ( No offense to anyone, not hating on anyone ) - That Harbinger speaker has the exact body enclosure design just like the QSC Speakers. QSC K speakers are 8 inch 10 inch and 12 inches. I wish they had a 15 inch QSC K. / K.1 Speaker size. I chose the 10 inch because it's less price than the 12 inch i think. it costed me $1,500 for to buy 2 K10 K1's.. For a notice, i'ma DJ that is 24 Years old and i been DJ'ing for about i think 7 years now. I used to have 2 rockville 15 inch Speakers for awhile. They sounded honestly pretty good but i have had them for awhile. And then about 7 months ago i sold my 2 rockville 15 inch speakers ( Both rockville speakers are 800 watts ). Then i went to Guitar Center and did see the Mackie Thump15A's but i had my parents with me and they told me not to get those. They told me and wanted me to get the QSC K10 K.1 10 inch 2,000 watt speakers. I sound tested the QSC ones and my parents said they sound pretty good. To my personal opinion, they legit sounded kinda shitty. I sound tested those Mackie Thump 15A's 1300 watt speakers and i was like oh my god holly shit i want to get these Mackie Thump speakers. But my parents forced me t obuy the 2 QSC K10 K1 Speakers. I have been using the QSC speakers for many years aswell. They do sound okay but i like those Mackie Thumps the most. But hopefully i will get those Mackie Thump15A's as a birthday gift or a christmas gift. I do like the QSC's and Mackie Thumps. I also did like the 800 watt Rockville 15 inch speakers. I also got a dual pole stand bag to carry the 2 pole stands while i can carry the speakers. The 800 watt Rockville 15 inch speakers did sound prety fucking good onthe bass and treble and some mids. But i wanted to upgrade my 2 DJ speakers. I've gotten my Peavey Mic and Peavey PA12 EQ Mixer and alot of my XLR cables from marshal and Guitar Center. Guitar Center is my most favorite store!
( i also sound tested the speakers before i bought them aswell. The Mackie Thump15A's i honestly really like alot. But the QSC K10 K.2 speakers does sound okay. The mids and treble is strong but the bass isn't strong enough. ) - I always have the speakers EQ setting on Studio for the best bass response. The other EQ settings just kinda suck. That is why i always use the Studio EQ setting. I also don't wanna buy and use a subwoofer around with my DJ gigs. I would like to use the 2 big speakers for loud bass and treble and mids. I like the Mackie Thumps so i'm gonna go with the Mackie Thump15A's ( 2 of them ) And maybe at somepoint on sell my 2 QSC Speakers to someone maybe? if i do get the Mackie Thump15A's.
I'm trying to setup a home karaoke system and was looking to purchase a set of BMB speakers, do you think any of these two speakers will make a good alternative? Thanks!
is cerwin vega still relevant this time
you should do a reviews with the harbinger v4112 and the mackie thump 15a. they cost the same!
Its harbinJer like harbinger of death but great video like what you do here
That is funny.i had a bit of a problem on how to pronounce harbinger as well.they could of made the name better for sure.i thought the harbinger sounded better as well.great review.thanks for the help.
There''s this thing called a "dictionary".
Which has better bass?
The true test is putting a 4 pc or 5 piece band through them. How they hold up. How they manage the load. How they keep from limiting and distortion. I'm not sure these companies understand the need when we're looking at speakers. They falsely advertise power and their speakers can't hold up a decent volume without clipping. Not cool.
Can the Harbinger speakers along with the subwoofer support a full live band?
If you have enough of them!
Great review!
I Love Mackie Thump 15a
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing!
Next time you should compare a QSC K12.2 to a original K12
I legit have 2 QSC K10 K2's and no subs. I don't wanna haul around a big fat or small sub while hauling around my 2 speakers. I've used these QSC speakers for awhile. i am thinking of getting 2 Mackie Thump15A's because i think they do sound pretty awesome. Plus you can use an app on devices for to do a manual EQ ( i might be wrong though )
Ha-ha...Seriously Mackie speakers are designed to have a completely flat response. If you know anything about pro audio a flat response is 100 percent what you're looking for in PA speakers. With a flat response it is then in the power of the engineer to adjust and add the audio highs, lows , mids to the venue size, amount of people ect.
Theres a difference between completely flat and literally sounding like it was in a cardboard box. But hey we will take your word for it👍
@@2DudesAudio taking into consideration the speakers are literally $300. so yeah any speaker in that price range is going to sound like a frikin cardboard box dude. but if that's all someone can afford Mackies are definitely a great speaker in that price range.
@@theelusivedillinger that's very true haha
What does it mean in the video "EQ set to flat"? Which EQ setting on the Mackie was it?
It means both had no EQ applied to them. Just straight.
@@2DudesAudio The Mackie has 4 EQ modes: Music, Live, Mon, Sub. Which one was it?
@@javamon I believe the default is none. You can select one of those 4 or turn off. And if I'm wrong from memory it was on whatever default is, which might be music
@@2DudesAudio Yeah, I don't think you can turn it off but I will confirm in a few days. The music setting would have a big effect on sound.
mon is for monitor i think not mono hehe/...anyways good review
You can set the led on the harbinger
Excellent job
Harbinger bluetooth cant beat that. Need a portable rechargeable now that would be nice Great for ceremony or take to the park or river.
Whatever the he’ll they’re pronounced 😂lol
Harbinger v2315s are 249.99 at guitar center rn and the v2318s 2,400watt subwoofer is 549.99. I wanna get more involved with mixing bass music and dubstep so I might trade my Gibson SG that I don't use much anymore for the pair of 15s and the woofer. Anyone know if this would be a good setup for dubstep/riddim/future bass etc?
You can set them to max???
you know your stuff thank you for the review
Lynn J seriously ? He said mon is for mono 😂😂😂😂it stands for monitor, as an audio reviewer he really should know that.
I just bought 2 of 15 inch versions for $150 each though Musicians Friend. I'm happy with them. Have a sub on the way. Thanks for the review. I was wondering what they looked like inside. Now I don't have to wonder. lol
Did you get the Harbinger or the Mackie?
@@ZacPettyMusic The Harbingers. I push them fairly hard and they still sound as good as they did when I got them. I have to admit though I did put a small burn on one of the tweeters. It fuzzes a bit at high levels now. Not Harbingers fault.
Monitor/wedge mode
Hey bro mon means monitor . Its a monitor mode
please make a video yamaha dbr12 vs jbl eon 612
Harbinger's country?
I am just curious, What education do you have on comercial audio?
That mackie probably throws further as far as in upper range . at least looks that way here
Great review. Thanks!
I picked harbinger now on sale $199
How do you hook a sub up to the speaker
Xlr from the mix out on the top, down to the xlr in on the sub. Then set the top on "sub"
I got a stupid deal 2 speakers 2 stars and stands bag for $400
Thank y