DREAM LENS OR BUST? F9? No Problem!? | What About IMAGE QUALITY? | CANON RF 200-800 REVIEW
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- Is THIS The Lens We DREAMED OF? How will it work on cameras like the R5 & R7? Is it worth the hype or will it fail in the real world?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 FINALLY!
0:31 First Impressions!
3:09 A bit Stiff!
4:19 It Got Wet!
5:08 Field Test With Some Issues!
6:22 F9...
7:27 Mixed Feelings
7:53 True Test!
9:33 Is It Stable?
10:49 The Elephant In The Room
13:05 1600mm Madness!
14:30 TCs
16:39 AF & Action!
19:07 Image Quality
21:06 Final Thoughts
Thanks Jan. I'm waiting for a comparison of R5+100-500+1.4x with R5+200-800 :)
Yasss!!!! I vote both the 1.4x and 2.0x! Didn’t buy a 2600 lens for nothing! Haha
Yessss!!!!!
Yes, Same!
Coming soon!
@@jan_wegener wooohooo! Can’t wait!
Jan, as always, your reviews are the best!! l love the fact that you honestly show the pro's and the con's!
Been waiting a while for this lens and I’m glad to know it delivered. Great video as always Jan!
Many thanks for your review Jan, I can hardly wait for it to arrive.🤩
Great review, Jan! Thanks for dedicating a few minutes on how it performs with the teleconverters.
Great video Jan! You for sure got some great photos with the lens, I think a beginner photographer might struggle with a few aspects about the lens like finding the subject in the viewfinder with the long zoom throw and using slower shutter speeds to maintain a useable ISO, but I guess it's all part of the learning process and I'm sure anyone could master this lens 🙂
Top drawer video thank you Jan, you and Duade are pumping out great videos and helpful information. The pink robin is just beautiful.
As always a great balanced review. So relieved to hear that it is sharp at 800 wide open. Thanks so much for posting. Waiting to get mine, but the deliveries are quite tight for the moment.
Thank you so much for your efforts for all of us and providing this wonderful evaluation of this lens. Much appreciated Jan.
Great review Jan, just what I was hoping to hear. I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive. I ordered it on day one, so it should get here soon!
Many thanks for the excellent review Jan and all the best!
Great review. I believe you covered the pluses and minuses very well. This is my 6th day with the lens and I have really enjoyed it. Since it is nearly winter here in the Puget Sound area of Washington State, USA, I have had plenty of opportunity to test low light operation. We barely have 8 hours of sunlight, if it isn’t raining 😅. When we finally get bright days I will keep an eye out for the bleed you mentioned.
A great review covering a decent lens.
(I love Australian birdlife)
Thanks Jan!
Thanks Jan, greatly appreciate the detailed review. Im still on the fence about this one. Your review was part of why I was waiting before I could make a decision. I think it make sense to have for just walking around or knowing what your lighting conditions will be.
Hi Jan, thank you for the detailed review. I was super excited to see a good telephoto lens from Canon after a long time and have been watching reviews after reviews, and your video has been very informative. I also wanted to point out that the bird photos showcased on this video are beautiful!
Been looking forward to watching this!
Thank you Jan for sharing this! I'm impatiently waiting for my RF 200-800 even if the delays may be long... I can't wait to see the results on my R7 and to fine-tune new autofocus settings!
As a 100-400 and 800f13 user with a preordered 200-800 about to arrive, dreams do come true. With your balanced review I am pretty comfortable I will not be disappointed. Thanks
Mine arrived this morning and I just went through my photos from today. Had a lot of fun. Got some nice shots. No complaints!!
Thank you :)
Merry Christmas 🎅
Great review of this lens for bird photography! As if a friend gave their thoughts on the lens - just the facts and no bias.
I was waiting for this review! Thanks for putting this together, much appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video ! I was just waiting for your review . Thanks
Thanks for the very detailed review 😃
Great informative review. This really does tell me what I need to know. I've only recently gone mirrorless, and I'm still using my old 100-400mm mkII, and was aiming to get the 100-500mm, but was intrigued by this lens, as I really need as much reach as I can get at times. I was a bit disappointed about the ghosting you described on bright highlight areas, because it was something I noticed on the Tamron and Sigma long zooms, at max focal length and aperture, which is why I stuck to 100-400mm Canon, even though it had less reach. It does leave me leaning more towards the 100-500mm, especially as I do a lot of dragonflies, butterflies and the weight is important. But I also need maximum reach at times.
Hi Jan, thanks for providing this key verdict I've been waiting for 👍 Sounds like this lens finally allows to combine APS-C level reach with FF level of quality, and it suddenly makes the R6, R6ii and R3 sensor resolution much more suitable for reach-hungry birding.
I intended to wait until the reviews from you and Duade were in, but Duade's smile and body language on his review (which was the second video were I did see you using the 200-800's together) already triggered me to order it 😛
The 200-800 is clearly no replacement for the mighty 100-500, but I strongly consider using the 200-800 from the point were I'd put the extender on the 100-500, and reserve the RF1.4x usage only for those cases I'd want even more than 800mm ..
Jan… your review is what I was waiting for. I would not buy this lens without your review I shoot now with a 1.4 and a 100 to 400 and I’m usually always open at F8 to F9 and I still find I get fantastic photos with the R6. Thank you so much, I will definitely be getting one
Excellent pictures and review, Jan!! I thoroughly enjoyed watching this!
Awesome!
Fantastic review, as always 👍🏻
Thank you Jan 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for all your efforts to bring a detailed honest review. Like always your content is the most professional and undoubtedly the best available on the web as regards bird photography. Keep it up👍
The lens surely looks promising but since I have the 100-500, I still am in two minds about getting the 200-800.
My pleasure!
Thanks Mark, but the reach is exactly where I am left longing for while shooting birds.
You make the best gear reviews, and as always, this one is no exception. Great work and thanks for the review, Jan.
Thank you!
Your reviews are just stellar, Jan. Just the facts with pictures and examples to back them up; forget the fluff!. What a great resource! Thanks so much.
Catherine
Glad you like them!
thanks for the review and always enjoy seeing those robin pics!
Keeping both the 200-800 and the 100-500. Love both of them
Thank you, Jan, for this review. It's really helped me. You covered all the bases. I'm on the wait list at a local store.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Jan :) interesting observation RE the flaring on bright spots. I've had this with older lenses, no doubt due to a lack of coating somewhere in the lens configuration.
Still on the fence about the lens, as I'm still very much living in the adapted EF world and even though it does appear to be sharper than my current combo (400 DO ii with 1.4 and 2x extender) I'm not sure it would replace it entirely. f/4 after all is still useful even if it's only 400mm.
What's more concerning for me is the autofocus on that R7. I've been a little like Glenn really, just generally displeased with the short-falls of the R7 and I didn't want to waste money on it when I knew it wasn't going to last as long as my 7D mk ii did. I know as soon as the R7 mk 2 came out I'd likely instantly want to upgrade and I think they've done exactly that also with this lens! If they release a 200-800 mark two that simply had a removable lens collar, they know everyone would want to buy it haha. It's that Canon cripple hammer back at it again ;) You know what I'm talking about lol.
Thanks again either way, keep it up :)
I have one on order, cant wait to get it in the field
Thank you for another great review. Mine is on order.
Thanks, Jan. I have found that even ISO 25600 is usable with the R7 if needed. Modern APSc cameras are very capable. In respect of the R7 AF I have found it helps if you reduce the burst speed and disable the IBIS if using fast shutter speeds using 1st curtain electronic shutter. The lens looks great for the price. I’ll start saving up, now
Thank you so much this has just confirmed my purchase of the lens to use in combination with the EOS R3. A very helpful video...
Thanks for another great review from you! I’m waiting for mine. In Sweden it cost around 3000USD, almost the same price as a 100-500 after cash back sales. I had a 100-500 before, but with my R5 it was almost allways to short for BIF. I hope the handel of this big lens will be okay, and that it will be really sharp.
Wonderful video mate and covers the lens perfectly, it was great to catch up and I had a lot of fun. Cheers, Duade
Totally 😀 hopefully again soon
Thnx for the great reviews and all the time. Am waiting to see if is a R5 II and what it will do. Crop setting depending on sensor may work best for me.
Thank you. I pre-ordered on Nov 2nd with local Canon dealer when Canon announced it. It was supposed to arrive on Dec 14th but I was told that there is some supply chain issue and also this lens got more orders than Canon anticipated. It could take weeks or months per dealer. Paid the full price though.
We've been waiting for this one Jan! :)
Me too 😂
Thanks for your thorough review! I'm still amazed with the shots that you take (and the editing skills)@@jan_wegener
Thank you for your great review!! I have use this lens for a few days now and noticed a few picture with minor blue fringing on tree branches. Also shaky view finder during video. It takes a couple seconds to settle down. If I push the record button, it will smooth out faster. One thing I particularly interested is how does it compare with RF 100-500mm lens with 1.4x extender. After a careful comparison, I concluded that they are very similar in sharpness and even background blur. So the main advantage for RF 200-800mm is the full range availability. Other than the minor issues, I still like this lens a lot that I make a TH-cam video for some great pictures and videos.
Excellent, Jan! I have ordered one and Hope getting it in January
Merry Christmas.
Jan, DK
As usual, a very useful video. I havent order it yet but I hope to be able to get the money togheter to buy it during 2024 to my R6.
I've been using mine, and was wondering why it was so shaky... I had accidentally turned off the stabilization. 😂😅. Since then I've been absolutely loving it. Big upgrade coming from the 100-400mm I was using before.
Finally…Thank you Jan… i was waiting for this more than New Year party..
Same, my 200-800 has arrived at Narellan NSW
Better to be thorough than first 😆
Thank you very much for this wonderful and very useful video Jan ❤
The Guru of camera and lens review. A very detailed one . Thank u Jan
My pleasure!
Mine is on order and will use it most of the time to replace the use of my 10 lb 500 mm f4 mk I prime.
Thanks Jan, I don’t think I will be changing my RF800 + my EF 100-400mm L series for this Lens, but I do think it is a great option for those looking for longer focal length.
Excellent review mate! Been waiting to hear your thoughts. Although not sure I can justify it with the 100-500 and 500f4. Wonder what the second hand market for rf100-500 is going to be like now that this lens is out!
Always love your reviews Jan, thanks for sharing!
This will be my next lens to purchase no doubt.
I've been shooting with a 1dxII, a 100-400L II and a x2 extender, at f11 wide open, only able to focus in live view AND with central AF only and still managed great photos (minus the really bad ratio of garbage ones) and that was before the great denoise softwares we have nowadays.. So this lens is like heavenly for me and my R5 since I can't afford to spend 13k+ on a lens that nobody can even purchase anyway with the shortages.
I think there is room for a version II to smooth out some of the downsides like the shoe part or the messy stabilizer you need to shake around etc, but this looks like an A+ lens for me.
And yes people will still want to be able to afford a lens as good as a 13k lens but pay 2k only but that's not gonna happen.
Yes, the R5 and tis lens will for sure feel like a great update. Full AF coverage for instance
Beautiful images as always. thank you!
Glad you like them!
Zaterdag ga ik mijn 200-800 ophalen
Voor de R7 .
Ik fotografeerde met canon ef 100-400 mk ll en de extender 1.4 mk lll . Op de R7.
Zal mij benieuwen , de filmpjes hebben enorm geholpen 👍👍
Bedankt Jan
Thank you so much! I've watched your video and Duade's as well as others. Mine arrived today! So excited to take it out and see how it works with my R8!!!
Have fun!
Thank you so much Jan for your verdict on this lens. Knowing how critical you can be, this verdict is as positive as it comes. After seeing yours and Duads video I immediately pro-orderd one copy.
Glad it was helpful!
Very excited to hear your feelings, and Duade's. I have experienced the auto-focus issues with the R7 with an EF 100-400mm Mk II. Being down low with a lot of foreground and a small subject in the midground is a very difficult task for the R7's AF unfortunately. And that Tern shot is fantastic!
Yes, it can drive you mad sometimes!
Thank you
Good one jan, hopefully i can save some money to buy this lens
I always learn something new watching your channel. I had an ah ha moment today. Don’t use the TC to try and photograph subjects far away!! Use it to do better close ups of birds closer to you. I’ve been using it to reach ducks in my local wetland that tend to feed on the very far shores with low keeper rates. The TC makes my 100-500 an F10 and I loose the 100 due to the design flaw, so I don’t use it much. I will try it on closer subjects with a monopod. The new 200-800 is close in weight to the 100-500 with the TC. So it’s not on my radar at the moment. I just love the portability and flexibility of the 100-500. I’m holding out for a better crop camera!
thanks Jan nice job.
Thanks Jan... great practical observations on the brightness and throw stiffness... having the 100-500 + 1.4x on both of my R5 and R7, i was particularly pleased to hear this lens did well with the 1.4x. Yeah, this lens + 1.4x on the R7 would give me an insane reach for small bird head shots! I wholly agree, the combination of IQ, sharpness, reach and price makes this lens 2nd to none! Love Canon for giving us so many "2nd to none" lenses lately!
yes, I love how they push the boundaries a bit, making the 100-500 500mm instead of 400and this 800 instead of 600
very good review. Thanks!
Great review Jan! I am glad to hear it passed your discerning tests😀. I didn't make the cut for the first round of shipments, so hopefully I will get it by February. I'm not surprised you had issues with the R7, as you mentioned the known auto-focusing issues that has. I am looking forward to using it on my R5. When the inevitable R5 MK2 comes out, that should be a real killer combo!
Have you tried out Lightroom's new lens blur feature? It works pretty well on raw files from my R7 and 100-500, making them look more like f/4 instead of 7.1, if there's already a fairly smooth background. Would be interesting to take some of the shots from this video and use that on them!
No, haven't played with that yet, thanks for sharing!
Been waiting for this lens…..and review. Thanks, Jan.
My pleasure!
Very intuitive video. Enjoyed watching it overall. I am currently an olympus user, on the E-M1 Mk3 with 300mm f4 PRO. I am awaiting to see what olympus release with their new body but i am thinking of potentially moving ship to the r5 and probably the 200-800mm canon RF lens. I had also thought of maybe going all in and buying olympus's 150-400 f4.5, but at 3x the price, it is quite the price. I also have thought about the weathersealing on the equipment, as i do tend to go cold snowy climates regularly. Point 1) you said that the lense tenda to blow whites out, do you reckon it would be a particular problem in snowy conditions. Point 2) how suitably do you reckon the lense would handle conditions around -10 degrees and below? Any thoughts on this?
Just bought mine yesterday via ebay, paid a bit over retail but im no good at waiting lol.
Ive been using a conon rp and a 100-400mm and the number one issue ive had was being unable to get close enough to birds. Cant wait to start shooting with this extra zoom 👍
Great review Jan, I am tempted, especially when I saw your backlit video, but saving for the R1.
It's a nice lens to have :)
Yes, R1 will be quite pricy, 15k wouldn't shock me
I thought/hooped maybe 12k, hopefully, but expect anything really. @@jan_wegener
Jan , nice review. I was one of the lucky ones that got one. I was thrilled how well you can blow out the backgrounds, yeah it's a keeper.
Awesome!
Very good review Jan, as usually. I hope still for a in depth review of the Nikon 800/6.3 vs 600/6.3. + 1:4 tc
Thanks for an honest, comprehensive review.
My pleasure!
Thanks a lot for this fantastic review! Very informative and with impressive fotographs! Amazing, that the lens also worked well with extenders. Did the minimum focusing distance chance with them?
I don’t think so
Thanks for the review. I preordered the lens and got it today. Looking forward to testing it tomorrow in the local zoo.
Hope you enjoy it!
Hi Jan. Just subscribed as I love your work and very helpful honest reviews. Had my eye on the 200-800 for a while, you've convinced me to take the plunge......when they become available here in the UK, which could be a while🙄. I'm also envious of where you live and the awesome birds there 'down under'😁👍. Cheers Al🦅
Welcome aboard 😀
Great review 👍thank you. Will stay with the 100-500mm and a TC 1.4. But I'm waiting for your next video, with the comparison of both lenses 😀
Same here 🙂
The lens just arrived and I am anxious to give it a try. Thanks for another great review.
Hope you enjoy it!
For 1899 I would get it. I feel like the 100-500mm can be limiting sometimes. But here it costs 3100... Almost as much as the 100-500mm. Also close to the incredible normal range primes, 85mm, 135mm and 28-70 f2. Its crazy to have this one in the same price range as these.
Very good review! Very practical and detailed. Thank you 😊
Thanks :)
Fantastic review and even better photos and videos. Your talent truly shines in this video
Thank you!
The IS on my R 7 shakes at first then seems to settle in. When the eye AF is having issues locking on I switch quickly to single point and it definitely helps
Great video just pre,ordered one for my partner she’s shooting r7 with sigma 150-600c so I see the canon as a definite upgrade for her I’ll wait for comparisons against the 100-500 & 1.4tc on r6ii before I order one as I would have to let the 100-500 go so the 200-800 has to be really bang on before I make a decision on one or not
I purchased the lens the other day and it's amazing! One huge problem for me though is a lot of filters do not work with the hood at the same time. The Sigma WR filter overhangs by about half a mm and because of this the hood doesn't slide over it.
Superb video, thanks! ... I look forward to hearing you views when comparing the the 200-800 with the 100-500 + 1.4tc
Coming soon!
Lens review excellent Jan, bird photos 👍, afraid I don’t want to lug that weight around on a 8 mile walk and I doubt I could hold it steady
Hi Jan, thanks for the informative Video. I ordered my 200-800 some weeks ago from Teds in Maroochydore and it arrived yesterday. Yahoo!! I spent all day with it today at a few sites on the Sunshine Coast. I am so impressed with it. Images are so sharp. Sadly the weather here will be showers for a few days so I will have to wait until after Xmas to give it a good run. It is a little heavier to use compared to the 100-500 but I guess I'll get used to it. On longer sessions, I put the camera/lens on a monopod and rest the monopod and camera on my shoulder as I walk around. Works for me.
Congrats and thanks for sharing!
Hi Jan, Thanks so much for your down to earth reviews etc. The 200-800 throws up the dilemma about choosing this or the 100-500 plus converter ....and for many others also. Looking forward to your comparison video.
coming soon!
Thanks for your honest reviews. I am interested in this lens and was waiting for your review.
My pleasure!
Sem dúvida, sua análise foi muito satisfatória e proveitosa. Rica em detalhes e bastante coerente. Abraço aqui do Brasil.
Parabéns pelo belo trabalho.
Thank you!
thanks for the reveiw, can you do a review only with the R7 and rf 100 500 & rf 200-800
i love your content, i always learn more and more with my R7,
best regards
Gafur from Norway
Thanks so much for the video. You did a great job with this review and it's great to see you and Duade together. He sent my over to your channel and you have a new sub.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for that review Jan, having seen Duade's review already, you helped with a bit more coverage on the low light aspects, plus picked out a few other issues. Not sure if I want one, but at least now I have a good idea what I'd be getting into. It's not that I'm hesitant to shoot at ISO 12800, but seeing your 1/200th at that, I'm quite hesitant to shoot at ISO much higher. Thanks again.
If you have to push much higher it does get tricky. And personally I don’t like being below 1/400 ideally
@@jan_wegener thanks Jan.
Another awesome video, Sir. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I was definitely wondering abt this lens and the RF800mm/F11
I’ll make a video about that
Thanks Jan, great video, I'm now convinced, this will be my next purchase (luckily I'm in the US in a few weeks so I'll have a better price than the UK rip-off) ! The quality, versatility and price definitely make it a no brainer while the downside are quite expected and not overwhelming the benefits. Thank you for all those details (I watched your videos and Duade's) - it really help to make the decision !
Great to hear
Once again great job.
Thank you for a great job. Excellent review. Did you use an external microphone for videoing the bird?
No that was the internal mic of the R3
Jan, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas.
Thank you, same to you!
Thanks for the great review Jan. Shame it costs $3500 in Australia.