What Is A Cross Country Bike? | XC Mountain Bikes Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- We recently had a look at the Downhill bike, and what sets it apart from other types of MTB. Today we’re going to have a look at Cross Country bikes, and show you how they can be so light and fast, and why they are designed the way they are…
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Still riding an old Specialized Stumpjumper Elite with 26 in wheels and 3 chain rings up front. Will keep riding it until it fails if ever.
@@sunshynjunky you like what you like.. who am I to judge...
Does the 8 track tape player sound ok?
Yeah she's an old classic the stumpjumper👍🏿💯👏🏿
i have trek 9200
2008 Specialized Rock Hopper 26er here. Can't afford the new fancy stuff. 😆
I am a simple man. I see Doddy and XC bikes....i click.
Amen.
Finally! XC Bike content! Do Pro Bike checks on this years XCO World Cup!
especially Tom Pidcock's bike rockin a suntour fork.
When Dodds is saying that Nino does not run a dropper post... the video footage edited in at that moment shows Nino running a dropper post 🤣👍
We’ll look at me. It’s 2:30 in the morning. I love xc
I didn't realize that foam grips were a weight weenie item; I just find them to be more comfortable.
Recently swapped my spark RC grips and weighed them.
Foam Richey's with end plugs= 25.05g each
Syncros with end plugs = 45.45g each
@@ByronWWW the spark RC grips are soo bad
They weigh just about the same as the pnw loam grips, I wouldn’t call it a weight weenie item either but compared to most grips it is lighter
Thanks Doddy, I have paid a deposit on a new bike but the shop just can't get one for me so patiently waiting. It will be my first 29 er dually, a 70 bday present.
26er XC here
I hate the fact that the industry is trying to phase out 26ers. Less available parts, zero marketing, less off the shelf options.
My first bike was a 26er xc and it was the most fun i've ever had
Mine needs a new chain, riding 29 until then.
26 for the win - the wheels with the most stability if you use enough spokes (since the axial angle of the spokes is bigger due to the smaller diameter), and the bike is extremely compact and short, it fits into a trunk without disassembling the wheels while a 29 is far bigger
Thanks for making more content on XC Bikes. Love the presentation from Doddy! Hats off.
Best thing about an XC bike is, throw some more aggressive tires on it, tweak the cockpit a little and it can easily be converted into a short travel trail bike. And my FOX 32 is closer to 110 mm travel. As hard as I try I can’t use all it, unless I do a drop offs
Wow that's out there.
Ya i flipped my stem , put flat pedals and 2.4 in tires on my 2013 Scott scale 930 and trail rode it for 5 years ! Super fun bike , the fox 32's work great too
What kind of tires do you personally use?
Thanks for this, great informative vid. Cheers
One of the best xc bike review I have seen, down to the point and very accurate 2 thumbs up
So true! I’ve seen a lot. But this one is basically all you need to know to know almost everything from 0 to 98% about XC bikes.
fantastic video. Thank you so much! Great work.
Well explained... time to use my xc bike again!
Thanks for the XC content!!
Oh wow, the black one looks amazing
Another awesome video Doddy👌
xc with a 120mm fork and a dropper makes the perfect bike
my bike :o
I like 110 fork and dropper more... Just cause it's a bit lighter
Horses for course!
120mm hardtail with dropper or extreme light hardtails are my favs
and in my case... riser bars
Nino was using the axs dropper on the Cape Epic - they made a custom button for it embedded in the grip in thumb reach
I thought it was a regular eTap blip (or should I say SRAM eTap® Blip™)?
@@alnsn it is paired with blipbox
Superb explanation!
what you see on youtube are bikes that is up-to date and full of new technologies and these bikes do look better indeed, thats why some peoples perspective is their bike should have those things too. but in fact you don’t need all of these new techs and spend all your money and be poor😭 be happy of what you have if it’s still good!
Skill matters more than technology in XC. The weight reduction and full suspension that gets shoved down our throats is mostly marketing. Yes, these features are useful, but there are significant diminishing returns in price/performance. Also it is important to remember that even a cheap xc bike in the 500 dollar range has more or less the same features as a top of the line bike from 20 years ago.
Thanks for this video! I'm getting my first entry level xc bike end of June and can't wait! Got it mainly for the speed as the main thing I'll be doing is commuting or riding around my town with it. Definitely want to get on some trails with it.
Nice!
"I'll be doing is commuting or riding around my town with it"
YOLO ^^
Bet he's now riding down Whistler.@@IIISentorIII
The white Lux is beautiful.
The crank length myth has been busted by many studies now, Dylan Johnson and Trainerroad have videos going over them.
Newer XC bikes are running slacker as the courses have gotten more technical. My XC bike is now 7 years old. I updated it with a dropper which changed my downhill capability. 2x10 still competitive in the fat old man category.
Its about control over the front end, and you cannot control a wheel with no weight on it when making sharps turns.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 certainly true, but when you’re top heavy and going downhill you don’t have control when flying over the handlebars and slacker is great for downhill. Just my experience having crashed like that a few times. It’s a fun, though brief flight
Thanks for the xc discussion. Suggest you survey a decent size sample of xc racers or just serious riders regarding seat post preferences. I think there’s still a significant knowledge gap on the subject.
Brilliant, thanks!
Good JOB Doddy!👍🚵♂️
great video Doddy, well explained as always...XC all the way - love these new dual sus carbon XC bikes - but im hardtail for the trails :) XC bike position is great to get the power down and long days on the bike - 4 Pot brakes for me - might try inserts - cheers
Integrated stem plus handlebars are these days standard too for scott and canyon, its also spare some weight.. And scott has aslo rideloc technology, where you can lock your suspension also at 60mm... Love it, riding it maybe 50perc of all time, than 25perc unlock and 25perc fully lock. Rideloc is also changing your bike geometry, seatpost will become steeper for better climbing... Its great for some forrest climbs where you have some roots and benefit from 60mm travel and better traction and you are not loosing many watts, because bike is also stiffer. Also it is so much comfortable, like with locked suspension. Scott also rule with full carbon wheels for 4k dollars🙃, they are all arround still a little bit ahead against other brands. I will not buy any other bike without rideloc technology anymore. Nino Schurter at 5km round use it for 160 times, and also used 60mm for 50perc of all time then 30perc unlocked and 20perc fully locked..
Is it only me that notices doddies videos have waay better videography
In my „why is my old CC bike so fast“ experiments, I found out that I used to run my saddle at 100% efficiency height which makes it dangerous on descents. On the „CCified“ Pole Taival, I now only use about 3cm of travel in the dropper but this is enough to make it far safer on descents. I‘d love to see more integrated droppers like BMC also because the provide a thicker, stiffer seatpost.
I'm not the biggest fan of pedalling up hills or even along the flat but I appreciate the variety on the channel 😂
if you hate pedalling in general maybe find another sport?
@@1barnet1 my love for the descents still drags me out on the bike 😂 Uplift season is almost upon us 🙌
@@1barnet1 hate was a strong word, I've edited it for you
@@calumbmx1 I love both but i am more an XC or gravel rider. But Mountainbiking used to be about adventure, taking a bike from the road to the wilds. with no suspension small but sturdy 26" wheels,
main trails were narrow walking trails and unpaved maintenance roads. Guess i am getting old:D. The sport has transformed into more of an extreme sport over the years.
We used toi ride the roads/trails now used by "boswielrenners" translating to forestroadies or something like that.
@@1barnet1 this guy 👆knows what he’s talking about.
Good report
Excellent. Thanks. 👍☮️🌞🚲
Your fork is 120mm travel as I'm sure you know. Also I've spotted a few Fox 34SCs in XCO races this year and I'm sure a few folks are running the 120mm SID too since the weight difference is quite small.
I believe some xc bikes such as the bmc two stroke or the four stroke has a 67.5⁰ head angle, quite aggressive for an xc bike.
On wheels, like anything else really (from an engineering perspective)...stiffer does not necessarily mean stronger. Flex can add to strength because stiffness can also mean brittle.
Flex is built into the carbon layup. The frames are t1000 and the wheels are t800 layups. XC has this down to a science.
What mudguard is that you're using? We need more XC content.
Yes finally some more attention to xc
Great video doody!! Can i ask why there is a silver tape on the frame close to the chainring?
i believe its a metal shield to protect the carbon chain stay from ‘chain suck’ where the chain gets stuck between the chainring and the chainstay
The statement about cranks being longer because it helps you get the power down more efficiently is not necessarily true. Efficient crank length has more to do with your height and geometry of your legs. Around 175 just happens to be the efficient length for a 6' person. Downhill bikes just compromise to reduce pedal strikes because they are utilizing more suspension travel on typically rougher terrain. You may already know this. If it isn't one already, I suggest you do the research and make a GMBN video on crank lengths.
I see that you installed a dropper remote lever under the bar notwithstanding the fox suspension lockout on the same side, I'm very interested in this but you found a nice position only with CB lever due to its adjustability or it is also possible with bikeyoke lever? or I need to go with 2x lever with bikeyoke? or CB lever can fit with Divine SL remote? thx
Thank you Mr Dodd......right tool for the job, eh ? I'm off to gravel..be safe.
That’s MVDP’s choice of bike. It climbs like a beast !
Great content and f** beautiful bike.
Pls make also one for hardtail setup
Theres this little channel called GCN you guys should know about. They did a great episode on crank length you should catch. Lots of good info😁👍
Long cranks (175) are only good for really tall riders. The rest of under 6’ tall can produce more power with cranks at 170 or less (proportionate to leg length). Simply thinking long crank = more torque misses a whole bunch of other factors that affect the ability of a rider to sustain a high power out put. For one, there’s a bunch of efficiency loss with excess articulation of knee and hip joints. The shorter crank reduces effort of a slightly higher pedaling cadence. That slightly higher cadence results in much more power per minute than given up by the small loss of torque. I know crank length was only incidentally mentioned in this vid. But, the choice of words implied that the excessively long cranks were something good. Crank length is a topic worth investigating for a GMBN episode. Doing the math and testing to see the benefits of appropriate lengths would be great. Getting some insight on why the bike industry has been sticking everyone from 5’1” to 6’3” with only 170mm or 175mm cranks would be interesting. Personally, I’d be fascinated to find out how too long cranks became the norm. I have a 38 year old size M MTB with original 170 cranks. All size M hard tails I’ve owned in the past decade have 175 cranks. I can maintain a higher speed for 3 miles on the 38 year old bike than I can on my “modern” bikes. Builders used to know better - how did the knowledge get lost?
Thanks for awesome video. I’m starting in this sport. Can someone tell me what’s the model for the beautiful white canyon ? Thanks !!
when it comes to downhill im always scared but on normal paths im kind of wild... for me xc is the perfect bike!
ride safe ride on!!cool
Beautiful looking bike sure it will cost a fortune lol, Vittoria barzo's great tyres I have a set of these 👍👍
That hardtail is awesome. What brand is that ?
You should do trail bikes next
#askgmbn can you talk about the difference between an Xc bike fit and an Enduro bike fit?
A friend of mine told me that an Enduro bike should have 20-30 mm less total reach (frame+stem) in comparison to an Xc bike.
Isn't this idea dated?
Then how should I determine the stem length in relation to the frame?
Should It be related to head angle and rear centre?
Like sould a steeper bike with longer chainstays run a longer stem related to a different bike, mantaining a same total reach?
Is there a video which shows the pricisis information on hardtail vs full sus?
Better than a „gravel“ bike. IMO
About dropper posts for racers. Just another thing that can break. As we saw a couple of weeks ago in the WC 😅
Enduro hardtail setup or specs guide pls.
new Scott spark rc has 110mm fork stock (fox 34 or 35mm Sid)
I ordered a dual susp XC 29er last Friday. Really wish it did not have the dropper though.
Wanna sell that dropper to me?
Please tell me what that hard tail is, it looks amazing!
Orbea Alma
DAMN!! Here I was hoping to get into XC biking but seeing 14k $$ bikes I guess it's only for the super rich...dreams dashed for some wilderness biking!! :(
thats what they gate Gate Keeping
I have a Hardtail Bike and I like to call it an XC bike though I don't know if I should call it that.
Basically, my bike has Downhill rims which are heavy, and aerobars.
Love gmbn tech
Had anyone else seen that Henry is over on PinkBike?!? Who knew he’d leave and awesome show like GMBN for PB?!?
2 wheels carry our soul! It's a very nice video, I'm an electric mountain bike rider, I live in the Netherlands, I'm still waiting for my new channel. Good luck with my love......
I'd love to ride one of these for one day 😄 then back to slack town and forgivable bikes ha
same haha ill take 150mm instead
For me this high end xc bikes are the peak of bike tech....
My cycle tires are 26x1.95 inch . 100 mm front suspension . Is it a xc or trail bike
Iv just brought a cannondale Scalpel
I didn’t know there were so many different bikes. I was just looking for a bike to casually ride any where . Is a cross country bike good for that? Or should I get a different bike
My heavy e-mtb is an xc bike... because I take it miles and miles across country, valleys, hills, moors; walkers paths, deer paths, no paths...
Where can I buy peyote tire? It is not on official site
Should we go for tubeless for XC endurance ride on road? Hard to consider!
I use a cross-country hard tail on mixed roads. I intend to go tubeless when I have enough budget for a good rim.
I just went tubeless and i can't see myself going back to tubes. Cornering feels a lot safer, and i think I can feel the weight difference. Not sure how it affects pure road riding though.
There’s a fox 34 trail fork on the Xc bike
Well, Doddy is a tall Dude.
this beautiful lux looks strange with the saddle pushed extremely forward
What is the hardtail black Bike?
Mine instead the rotor is 180 in the front 160 in the back Deore Xt
12:44 I mean he has a dropper in all of these clips tho
68 to 70 deg yes so much better Just wish EMTB chose those angles. This dash to chopper 60 deg is just ridiculous. I am even considering an offset headset to get back towards 70 deg
#GMBNTech #GMBN Have you all seen the new "Generative Design" cranks from SRAM? Would love to get Doddy's take on them!
Go XC if you want to be the fastest thing with pedals around town that is not a road bike! :D
around town, Gravelbikes, cyclocross, trekking bikes, cross hybrids(rare to get a decent one these days) will win every single time. 2.25 29er wheels just don't roll very fast on tarmac.
@@1barnet1 Fair enough :) This channel is not the right place for my sweeping, imprecise statements.
What i meant to say is I'm usually the fastest person around on thick tires. And that is a lot of fun.
29er being "standard" is really weird to me. Are cyclists all the same size? Would a 5'5" female cyclist have the same biomechanical interaction with a 29er as a 5'10" male cyclist? How about a 6'2" cyclist? A 27.5er frame would be a bit smaller, lighter, and stiffer than one designed for a 29er and the same points can be said for a 27.5 wheel. Or maybe most XC cyclists are tall enough for 29ers that smaller riders are an irrelevant market?
And the bike industry seems to be trying to phase-out 26ers, which is even be lighter, stiffer, and more agile than a 27.5.
I won't be surprised if the bike industry phases out 29ers and below in a few years then establish an even bigger wheel as "standard". R.I.P. smaller riders, XC would then be a tall person sport.
I think you are mistaken about wheel size and frame size.
Undoubtedly you can get smaller bikes with 27.5er however with 29er and different frame sizes you cover most of the spectrum.
Just look at UCI WC XC, most women from 5'2" to 6' ride 29ers varying from XS to L in size.
29er is all about roll over, and momentum, hence why it is preferred by most XC riders.
As for agility most pros are talented enough to be able to be agile on a 29er.
You can see the change to 29er even in EWS, where one might think agility is more of a factor than in XC race.
So all the data points that as far as speed is concerned 29er is better.
From my personal experience I am riding 29er XC, my gf is riding 27.5 XC and my brother is riding mullet XC, their bikes are far more agile than mine, but I won't trade that agility for the preservation of momentum I am getting on my bike.
This is a disturbing trend for women,
Yes 29er are faster on professional athletes even the smaller ones.
But i know from my rental fleet that i can't phase out 27.5" for both females under 1,65cm (which are a LOT of them) and teenagers.
And that's in the Netherlands where we have among the tallest people in the world.
The French girl who dominates enduro is tiny and she does fine on a 29er. What you say makes perfect sense, but plenty of small people are using full 29ers and doing fine. Go figure. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jonoharper4729 True but not everyone can afford carbon rims. I can't do it as a rental service ever.
XC hardtails are the first MTB people own. And affordable 29ers will be far less nimble as those 6 grand 9-11kg racing machines.
For smaller riders i'd see it's a disturbing trend as i have smaller women which felt WAY more comfortable on 27,5". Same with children. We go from 24" straight to an XS with 27,5" wheels.
@@1barnet1 uhh, I am not sure I understand your point.
I am pretty sure rim material with both weight and stiffness makes little difference to a beginner.
Rim weight/wheel weight will surely help with acceleration, and may be somewhat easier to throw around. But when the person is up to speed the wheel weight won't make much difference, and if they really have the technique right, throwing both back and frontend around takes almost the same amount of force, agility is more of a technique + geometry issue not weight.
Also alloy 27.5 rims and 29 rims do not vary in weight too much. It's from 20 to 60 grams so not that it makes much difference.
XC bike : A bike that you can send out on the trails and have fun.
I just can’t imagine how do you look when 26 wheels was the standard.
the frames were much taller than the tires
These 26 inch bikes are usually quite compact, they are relatively short and you can get them into a car where a 29 inch has far too big wheels to fit into a trunk. Also the wheels are extremely stable, nothing beats a small 26 inch wheel with 36 spokes in stability due to the bigger angles of the spokes in axial direction
I don't belong to CGN or GMBN, I'm just a hobby cyclist. However, I have 2 26 inch bikes, one bought preowned with the purpose to be compact and with stable wheels, including simple V brakes, because the bike is gonna to be used in remote areas in the Indian Himalayas where you be on your own without bike shops and a possibility to get spare parts within 100 km.
Merry christmas too
#AskGMBNTech. Does stopping power decrease as ur wheel size increases? I noticed that my old bike, a 27.5, with 2 piston tektro brakes, stopped significantly quicker than my new bike, a 29er, with the same brakes. Is it just me, or is this real?
Stick to 26.
Would blake ride an xc bike to downhill or freeride?
My bike is not light lol and the petals efficiency is working your ass off lol but I love my Santa Cruz Chameleon Hardtail 🤙😎
Top video jajajajaj now feel motivated to get on the trail mzself, what gest me going the longest while bike is *delta parole* or other rokk music!
All I know about XC is Nino Schurter!
"Almost always has xyz" yeah on... 4k pound bikes. I'm lucky mine comes with 25 cent plastic flat pedals so slippery they moan when you step on em.
Whats "Ross" from friends doing here :)
Are they suitable for bike packing for an overnighter or a few days trip?
No
I did a full week with bags on a Scalpel SI, no dropper. It worked out just fine. If I was to change anything I would keep 100mm full sus but wear a larger backpack/frame bag and put a dropper on instead of a large seat bag.
#AskGCNTech I know Pinerello amazingly made a EMtB so what's the chances that with Pidcock smashing cross country now that they'll make a CXMtB
Where can I buy one?
What year is this bike
It’s funny that you are saying that XC bikes have a 100mm fork while displaying one with 120mm (Fox 34)
I died when he said "Weight Weenies" especially with a straight and informative face. 🤣
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