Wow, the things you run into on TH-cam. I was at this gig, remember it vividly. April 1992 at The Strand in Redondo Beach. All of these guys playing at the top of their game. Thanks for posting. Two months later I was back at the Strand to see the VSOP "Tribute to Miles" band with Wayne, Herbie, Ron, Tony, and Wallace Roney, the one and only time I ever saw the late great Tony Williams live, another amazing gig. RIP Wallace Roney 2020
Remember listening to Vinnie destroy the drums on the scketchbook album that last tune Schophile is some of the best drumming i ever heard, power, technique and dynamics Vinnie is a genius
Except for the fact that John Pattitucci wrote these songs! Oh and Vinnie totally blew it that night with his performance of "Spaceships". The drum solo at the beginning of the song was overplayed and without taste, he was noodling live. He continued this all through the song. No development, just turned that dial all the way to 100 percent. The recorded version of Spaceships makes much more sense composition-wise.
That's in interesting observation. I was listening to the introduction to Spaceships, thinking that actually there are very few musicians on earth now or at any time who come close to Vinnie. Patitucci is obviously a superb player but once you've heard him a few times, you kind of have the measure of him. I enjoy his playing, but I seldom find him surprising. On the other hand, I've heard Vinnie take a 45 minute drum solo and never repeat himself...and then do another one that is totally different. That is a profoundly different level of creativity from most musicians. If you think of Bach being able to improvise a fugue in 4 parts on a given subject off the top of his head, or Mozart knocking off a set of variations on Twinkle Twinkle, (blindfold while drunk at a party!),, or Art Tatum taking 20 choruses of Blue Moon, each of which is unique, then you're in Vinnie's ballpark. It's not that there aren't a lot of brilliant musicians, only that there are a few whose particular combination of attributes seems to give them an almost superhuman ability. It's worth remembering that Bach said that anyone who worked as hard as he did could do what he did, and Vinnie is a legendarily obsessive practicer and has been for most of his life. Couple that with playing daily with the best players in the world for decades and you start to have some understanding of how it's possible, but that only takes you so far. "Genius" is a vastly overused and chronically misunderstood word. It's a word we should use with care and, in my experience, an extremely rare phenomenon, but I do think it applies to Vinnie. Brilliant though he is, I'm not sure it applies to John P.
@@musopaul5407 Soloing is not the only criteria we can compare if John is on the same level as Vinnie or not. Still, sfter 3 decades i still haven`t found a bass player that plays such tasteful (but also techcnically driven) solos on 6 string bass and upright bass with such an impeccable tone, unmatched even 30 years later. His bow technique is also very good which makes him an even rarer breed without even dipping into his solo career as a composer and band leader. It`s not just the ability to improvise that makes him on the same level as Vinnie, it`s all of the abovementioned, especially considering that Vinnie`s solo discography contains only one ( very good) album compared to John`s 15+ albums, all of which are very good.
@@stratrovarius That's a fair point. John is a far more prolific composer and more of a band leader than Vinnie. I also agree that Pattitucci is a really great bass player, incredibly versatile on both electric and double bass and a serious virtuoso. I just don't believe that as a player, he's the same as Vinnie. That's not to say Vinnie is a "better" musician. I don't think being a great musician is necessarily allied to being a great player. I simply think that Vinnie's skill-set is of a once-in-a-generation type. I went to Berklee in the 80s. One night I went to see Vinnie play at Ryles in Cambridge, on a gig sponsored by Rick Beato, then a lowly guitar student at NEC (I think). They were playing charts by Aydin Esen, an incredible Turkish pianist. It was all meter changes, weird hits and polyrhythms. They were really hard and I knew some of them because my teacher at the time, Ed Uribe, himself no slouch as a drummer, played in a band with Aydin playing his music. Vinnie's plane from LA had arrived late and he was sight-reading on the gig. He had the charts on the floor. On the first head, he read them as good as Ed ever played them; by the last head, he wasn't even looking at the charts any more and played around these figures flawlessly, like he'd been doing them his whole life! I've played with a lot of great musicians and listened to many more, but I've never seen anything like that.
@@musopaul5407 Thank you for this detailed answer and inside story. Vinnie`s sight reading is well known since his Zappa days. There is a video of Steve Vai telling a joke (yet a true story) about this. Anyways, they sure both make a dream rhythm section: th-cam.com/video/4eAuY8ctd2k/w-d-xo.html
Great Solos! Great Musicians! Great Music! Patitucci a true super high level Musician and not only Bassist! I remember that in the original album CD the second piece Jazz one is with Peter Erskine and Michael Brecker....two Musicians at an amazing level...the original one of course is bit more impressive💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
You know most peak and they have their signature licks....Vinnie doesn't milk anything....He keeps saying something new.....He truly speaks the language in a profound way.... He has reached another level on this Brian Eisenberg tune.... This is incredible! th-cam.com/video/ftVspJ1FjLs/w-d-xo.html
Name of the tune is Scophile, and I am 99% sure it's also featured on the Sketchbook-album. If you like that sort of a tune you would loose your breath from listening to Eric Marienthals album Crossroads wich is also one of the best Electric jazz recordings of the 90's.
It's funny At the beginning of the concert how John looks bAck At Vinnie two times, mAybe surprised how strong Vinnie wAs off to At just the first notes of the set, As if oblivious to the bAnd. I heArd of how Scott Henderson got thrown off the mothership by it's cAptAin, the lAte greAt Chick Corea, because he somehow didn't plAy with the same feeling of the music At the moment the band wAs plAying it...or something of thAt sort. You Always noticed with RTF or Elektric BAnd, even with All the great musicians there like StAnley ClArke, Al di MeolA, FrAnk GAmbAle et AL, thAt whenever they played some tune, they Always played it with the same feeling. You could see it how members of the band would Almost Always , though intermittent, from time to time, fix their eyes on Chick, communicating. MAybe this ensemble, big names though they All Are, just hAsn't hAd time enough to rehearse. Great musicians As these Are though, by the middle of the set, they seem to have found cohesiveness.
A Beast. He was high here.? We never know. I know he had a little expierence with cocaine. 33:11 first he touch his glasses then he touch his nose. Haha. I dont know. Could it be.
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Wow, the things you run into on TH-cam. I was at this gig, remember it vividly. April 1992 at The Strand in Redondo Beach. All of these guys playing at the top of their game. Thanks for posting. Two months later I was back at the Strand to see the VSOP "Tribute to Miles" band with Wayne, Herbie, Ron, Tony, and Wallace Roney, the one and only time I ever saw the late great Tony Williams live, another amazing gig. RIP Wallace Roney 2020
Colaiuta. Nothing else matters.
Remember listening to Vinnie destroy the drums on the scketchbook album that last tune Schophile is some of the best drumming i ever heard, power, technique and dynamics Vinnie is a genius
Vinnie live feat. John Patitucci.
Except for the fact that John Pattitucci wrote these songs! Oh and Vinnie totally blew it that night with his performance of "Spaceships". The drum solo at the beginning of the song was overplayed and without taste, he was noodling live. He continued this all through the song. No development, just turned that dial all the way to 100 percent. The recorded version of Spaceships makes much more sense composition-wise.
John is probably one of the kindest human beings on the planet earth! He is at the same level as Vinnie no doubt about it....and I am a drummer
That's in interesting observation. I was listening to the introduction to Spaceships, thinking that actually there are very few musicians on earth now or at any time who come close to Vinnie.
Patitucci is obviously a superb player but once you've heard him a few times, you kind of have the measure of him. I enjoy his playing, but I seldom find him surprising. On the other hand, I've heard Vinnie take a 45 minute drum solo and never repeat himself...and then do another one that is totally different. That is a profoundly different level of creativity from most musicians. If you think of Bach being able to improvise a fugue in 4 parts on a given subject off the top of his head, or Mozart knocking off a set of variations on Twinkle Twinkle, (blindfold while drunk at a party!),, or Art Tatum taking 20 choruses of Blue Moon, each of which is unique, then you're in Vinnie's ballpark. It's not that there aren't a lot of brilliant musicians, only that there are a few whose particular combination of attributes seems to give them an almost superhuman ability.
It's worth remembering that Bach said that anyone who worked as hard as he did could do what he did, and Vinnie is a legendarily obsessive practicer and has been for most of his life. Couple that with playing daily with the best players in the world for decades and you start to have some understanding of how it's possible, but that only takes you so far. "Genius" is a vastly overused and chronically misunderstood word. It's a word we should use with care and, in my experience, an extremely rare phenomenon, but I do think it applies to Vinnie. Brilliant though he is, I'm not sure it applies to John P.
Today…
Is Upright playing is mostly what I’m talking about. Vinnie Really play some beautiful things on all of John’s records
@@musopaul5407 Soloing is not the only criteria we can compare if John is on the same level as Vinnie or not.
Still, sfter 3 decades i still haven`t found a bass player that plays such tasteful (but also techcnically driven) solos on 6 string bass and upright bass with such an impeccable tone, unmatched even 30 years later. His bow technique is also very good which makes him an even rarer breed without even dipping into his solo career as a composer and band leader. It`s not just the ability to improvise that makes him on the same level as Vinnie, it`s all of the abovementioned, especially considering that Vinnie`s solo discography contains only one ( very good) album compared to John`s 15+ albums, all of which are very good.
@@stratrovarius That's a fair point. John is a far more prolific composer and more of a band leader than Vinnie. I also agree that Pattitucci is a really great bass player, incredibly versatile on both electric and double bass and a serious virtuoso. I just don't believe that as a player, he's the same as Vinnie. That's not to say Vinnie is a "better" musician. I don't think being a great musician is necessarily allied to being a great player. I simply think that Vinnie's skill-set is of a once-in-a-generation type.
I went to Berklee in the 80s. One night I went to see Vinnie play at Ryles in Cambridge, on a gig sponsored by Rick Beato, then a lowly guitar student at NEC (I think). They were playing charts by Aydin Esen, an incredible Turkish pianist. It was all meter changes, weird hits and polyrhythms. They were really hard and I knew some of them because my teacher at the time, Ed Uribe, himself no slouch as a drummer, played in a band with Aydin playing his music.
Vinnie's plane from LA had arrived late and he was sight-reading on the gig. He had the charts on the floor. On the first head, he read them as good as Ed ever played them; by the last head, he wasn't even looking at the charts any more and played around these figures flawlessly, like he'd been doing them his whole life! I've played with a lot of great musicians and listened to many more, but I've never seen anything like that.
@@musopaul5407 Thank you for this detailed answer and inside story. Vinnie`s sight reading is well known since his Zappa days. There is a video of Steve Vai telling a joke (yet a true story) about this. Anyways, they sure both make a dream rhythm section:
th-cam.com/video/4eAuY8ctd2k/w-d-xo.html
Vinnie Colaiuta is a beast. Period.
Great Solos! Great Musicians! Great Music! Patitucci a true super high level Musician and not only Bassist!
I remember that in the original album CD the second piece Jazz one is with Peter Erskine and Michael Brecker....two Musicians at an amazing level...the original one of course is bit more impressive💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I love Old Vinnie
it's amazing what I am willing to stomach just to be able to listen to more live Vinnie. Take Patitucci's shirt, for instance.
😂😂😂
God bless the guy who put this up!
VINNIE MONSTER!!!!!!
My favorite bass player & drummer !!!
VINNIE is a beast...THE BEST. Even with today's gospel type one way players who think they are the shit, could never even be his roadie...lol'
Drum solo leading into Spaceships at 30:15 is a must!!!
VINNIE is just a beast!!!!
the scary thing is that vinnie got BETTER!!!!
You know most peak and they have their signature licks....Vinnie doesn't milk anything....He keeps saying something new.....He truly speaks the language in a profound way.... He has reached another level on this Brian Eisenberg tune.... This is incredible! th-cam.com/video/ftVspJ1FjLs/w-d-xo.html
Yea but he lost his feel
@@mikehawk9461 and this one with Brian Eisenberg th-cam.com/video/ftVspJ1FjLs/w-d-xo.html
The King of Bassists!!!
Name of the tune is Scophile, and I am 99% sure it's also featured on the Sketchbook-album.
If you like that sort of a tune you would loose your breath from listening to Eric Marienthals album Crossroads wich is also one of the best Electric jazz recordings of the 90's.
Holy F’n shit Vinnie is amazing and what a band this is.
Nice, this video has reminded me that one cant get to the end of an endless lesson an instrument retains in itself for whom choose to take its offer.
Too many years waiting to see this document! It was my primal contact with fusion and always it will be emotional and conceptual treasure
Thank You !!
Ahhh... Vinnie Colaiuta at his most outrageous. What a joy to watch. Thank you uploader.
MOST OUTRAGEOUS.......??? HARDLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vinnie~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!! 🤘🏻
THANKS A LOT FOR POSTING THIS RARE VIDEO
A REAL JEWEL!!!
audio quality is super for 92 ... can´t get better thang .. thank you so much, unique treasure - patti, vinnie, tavaglione, beasley = best line-up !!!
awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Superimposed metric modulation a little after 13:45 Awesome!
Jesus. 4 minutes in and my head is already exploding.
perfect
Mamma mia!!!
John Patitucci a virtuoso with groove. Thanks for upload.
THANKS FOR POST THIS AMAZING VIDEO
Wonderful performance !
Thanks
Spaceships starts at 30:20
wow! Amazing)
Fantastico Patitucci
great bass player saw him with chick corea band in the early 80s vinnie is so great wow!
90 s jam in Canada, some bass player did something like this. Shouted from public- play tha fakking guitar! It took me years to got it
Amazing, Thanks for posting. Vinnie is a Freakin' Monster.
So glad Vinnie was on this gig.
thanks a lot for this movie!!
Thanks for uploading!Great to hear John and his band playing live that is so different than on cd!Greatest bass sound of all times!Love it!
Que show!!!
Wow what ever happened to this amazing music... really difficult to find this type of music live these days.
Incredible musicians!
Beautiful !
Thanks
Thanks for posting this gift!
Какой кайф!!!
Great performance by John Pattitucci & his band! One of my favourite bass players!
Wow! This is a gem! Fantastic performance! Awesome musicians! Love them forever! Vinnie, John two of my heroes!
Funny how you don't see anyone using the EWI anymore these days. But it sure was all the rage back in the early 90s.
1:13 minute, Thanks Vinnie.... OMG...
Vinnie 👍👏🤟
Thanks for the upload, awesome solos and groove! ☺️👏👏👏
This is prior to his TRBJP signature model from YAMAHA. So it has to be some kind of TRB6P. But it has Yamaha custom shop written all over it =P
Vinnie.......omg....😁😁😁🤘🤘🤘
Vinnie in beast mode.
Wow!! Thanks for posting. Great concert.
Schophile
Cool
Love
When I hear this music ,,,,, Oooooh
Jonh Patitucci meu mestre,sou teu fã de carteirinha. Muito bom,aprendi muito com esse cara. Grande baixista.
GRACIAS JOHN POR HABERME MOTIVADO A VIVIR DE ESTE HERMOSO ARTE E INSTRUMENTO!!!!
I think this is the lineup I saw in Amsterdam around that time
Patitucci
So Cool Thanks!
Thanks!
for me: One of the Best Album of Age. This one and OtC.
OH YEAH ! Thanks so much for putting this up, cheers!!!!
Vinnie's got some slutty hihats.
May friend john patitucci ilove you fingers harte of de bas david witham very very very good pianist best jazz o mama miya
1:12:00 WOW!!!
1:12:38….OMG 😮 amazing
RIDICULOUS !!! (in an amazing way)
The fuckin Redondo Beach Strand! I saw Dimeola there! It’s no more…they fuckn tore it down FuCK!’
who's better john petrucci or john patitucci
eduard John petrucci for sure is better
@@gunhoe34 they dont even play the same instrument
They should jam!
john patitrucci
1:31:52 vinnie going all in mental ❤❤
Where is one? 😂
Whatever happened to the "arty" closeupshots of the tuningscrews throughout of the whole drumsolo this time??? I was really missing that....
1:15:38
Does any one know where I can get a dvd copy ?
🌱🙄💙🌾
Amazing groove duet1, Patitucci-Colaiuta!!!. Is Steve Tavaglione on tenor sax?!.
Hey peeps, anybody know what bass hes playing and pickups and stuff?
1:12:00
much much much better than JP2
Who is playing bass while Patitucci solos? Example: 11:30 Backing track?
What's the name of the last song they played?
25:45:::::::::::::::::*
SWAN RIDER you mean the lick?
Also check out 5:16 then 😆
It's funny At the beginning of the concert how John looks bAck At Vinnie two times, mAybe surprised how strong Vinnie wAs off to At just the first notes of the set, As if oblivious to the bAnd.
I heArd of how Scott Henderson got thrown off the mothership by it's cAptAin, the lAte greAt Chick Corea, because he somehow didn't plAy with the same feeling of the music At the moment the band wAs plAying it...or something of thAt sort.
You Always noticed with RTF or Elektric BAnd, even with All the great musicians there like StAnley ClArke, Al di MeolA, FrAnk GAmbAle et AL, thAt whenever they played some tune, they Always played it with the same feeling. You could see it how members of the band would Almost Always , though intermittent, from time to time, fix their eyes on Chick, communicating.
MAybe this ensemble, big names though they All Are, just hAsn't hAd time enough to rehearse. Great musicians As these Are though, by the middle of the set, they seem to have found cohesiveness.
Somebody know how where can i find the full concert to make download ?
Leandro Guimarães dimeadozen.org
PJS
No comment.... ... ....
A Beast. He was high here.? We never know. I know he had a little expierence with cocaine. 33:11 first he touch his glasses then he touch his nose. Haha. I dont know. Could it be.
maxcohen who the in gods name is Wreckl.
1:31:57 thank me later
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Maybe the keyboard player
Wonderful concert but absolutely annoying fuckin' camera !!
Colaiuta é forte ma a volte é troppo esagerato...
BRAVISSIMI MA CHE INUTILE MUSICA VUOTA INSOPPORTABILE..
Meglio i pooh.....