Superb video. I recently purchased the 2022 V4S after 20 years of riding BMW GS and GSA's. It's difficult to make a side-by-side comparison but thus far the Ducati is a superior bike for long distance rides. I have not and will not take the Ducati off road, but the highway performance is far superior to the BMW -- less buffeting and better acceleration. I am a 76 year old BMW advocate, but the Multistrata V4 S is a worthy competitor.
My V4s now has 25000 miles on it. I adore the thing, she's gorgeous for touring, track days, scratching, etc. No regrets at all. No vibration, unlike the BMW XR I owned. I had to sell that it killed my hands.
Which service are you referring to? The oil change intervals are at 9,000 mi and super easy to do yourself, cost me right about $100. The valve check intervals are at 36,000 mi, and this is not Desmo so it is a traditional valve check like any other bike. Realistically, compared to any modern Yamaha or Honda, you're going to be fairly close in price for routine maintenance.
@@4KMotoring I usually going to dealership to keep warranty. And was shocked for 600mi service for 1250GSA and r9t was over $500. Especially r9t. And than 5000mi $500 again.
Nice honest review. I may have commented on your paint/decal scheme in one of your other videos, it looks awesome. Be interesting if Ducati, and other manufacturers, will simply have their bikes work with Apple CarPlay (or the Android version like the Goldwing does) which would make life easier. The low gas mileage is a bit shocking, but 95% of Adventure riders are usually not that far from a gas station. And once you reach a certain age you're going to be stopping every hour and a half to take a break anyways.
Yeah, that is kinda disappointing. Android Auto is such a great app and works perfectly on cars! Instead, bike makers want to bind you to an app that is probably not as good as what you use, and in some cases you need to pay extra (really, KTM?). But now Chinese started putting Android Auto to their cheap bikes, so I hope it'll change soon.
After lusting Multistradas for a number of years, I succumbed to the temptation last fall when a 2023 Rally arrived at a nearby dealership. Such an amazing motorcycle that in my opinion would be close to perfect if Carplay was in play. A previously owner Africa Twin Adventure Sports spoiled my with Carplay and I passed on a V4 in 2022, hoping that Ducati would heed to the Sygic complaints from owners. I did buy a Carpuride for my Tiger 900 Rally Pro, which works well, but still would prefer avoiding the add on. Thanks for your vids Chris! Keep up the good work.
I have the 2023 Multistrada Rally, mostly used for sports touring with some gravel in rural areas. Love the Multistrada!!!! My first big bike over 1000cc!! I was parked next to a V4 and we were comparing the bikes and it looks like Ducati made some slight changes to the evaporation canister. I wasn't aware of the issue and the V4 rider mentioned he had some problems with the evap canister. He looked at my Rally and said it appeared the evap canister was slightly different. I haven't had any issues, but had read about overfilling the tank causing vapor lock so I don't try to fill too full. Plus with the 7.9 gallon tank, I have 250-300 miles per tank depending on type of riding so i don't have to fill to the rim. Glad to hear that even after 20,000 miles you still love the bike.
It's great to hear you're getting such good mileage from your rally, I have been toying with the idea of getting the large gas tank for my v4s. $250 to 300 miles per tank seems perfect for some of the road trips I take. I wouldn't be surprised if Ducati did make iterative changes to the evap canister, they are continuously improving their products as they go which is something I'm not upset about. Glad you're enjoying your Mult, thanks for watching!
Just got a 24' rally. I'm so happy to hear the bike has been holding up well. I was actually in the market back in 22' but i went with the BMW GS due to their heritage.
@4KMotoring Yup the multistrada as a bike has been around for a while. I had a 2006 multistrada 1000s. The v4 grand tourismo compared to the bmw liquid cooled boxer was definitely newer all around in comparison.
Reasonable and justified recommendations! I heard that Ducati is working on its connect app to get rid of it always staying on top. I use Ducati connect only as a backup. I am delighted with my 2023 V4 Rally.
Unfortunately I've heard that the behavior of the app is directly due to requirements from Bosch, who makes the module Ducati uses. I would not expect to see any significant changes in this generation. On a side note, what fuel range are you seeing in the real world with the Rally?
@@4KMotoring Re Ducati connect, I guess that Ducati tries hard because the situation sucks. Here is my consumption data: My usual range when topped up is around 280 miles. Max. range so far was 320 miles. My typical consumption is 47 - 50 mpg when riding at 3000 - 5000 rpm overland at speeds up to 68 mph (max. overland speed limit in Italy, France, Switzerland is lower). Very often, in road conditions in central Europe (narrow, twisty, small towns), my typical touring speed lays between 15 - 40 mph depending on road conditions. Very often the Rally runs on 2 cylinders in these conditions. This figure gets up to 39 mpg on highways. It is of course possible to get the consumption way up when revving higher. I do this short term when overtaking or on highways which I try to avoid. On high alpine roads (Switzerland, France, Austria) my consumption is more on the 47mpg end. I am delighted with the consumption I see!
"Wow, a 20,000-mile review on the 2022 Ducati Multistrada V4! Can't wait to hear about the long-term performance and any surprises along the way. Thanks for sharing your insights!"
Great video! I bought my multi in March and love it! You’re right…That V4 is the crown jewel! Working on getting the Road 6s next. I’m still debating if I should get the full exhaust. Like the idea but very expensive! Keep that V4 content coming! Thanks!
My only regret with the exhaust is not doing it sooner, the little bump and power is nice, but it's that noise that makes all the difference. There's nothing like this screaming V4 and the little pops you get with the quick shifter. In my opinion, you can probably save a little cash and get a catless b-pipe to shave off some weight and get better sound for less than the full factory race exhaust
Try a BHP UK decat link pie and map for MS V4S. Cost is £1600 UK Sterling. Quality product that sounds amazing. But the map is the really clever bit, the engine runs smoother and pulls better at low rpm - highly recommended 👍
Chris thanks for the vid.. I love the Ducs. I have a 1200S Monster and love it. I looked at the Multi to add to the table but decided against it and went with the GSA... Because of all the BS issues that you have with yours and honestly. Ducati doesn't give a **** so...I went with the Beamer. I disagree with the heat dumping on my leg, and...they go 300k miles with no problem and I can do the valve adjustment myself.... The 1200s dumps the heat on my right leg and that's another reason I decided for the GSA..... BTW, I was at GP on the monster at Duc Island all 3 days. Lunch rocked on the 3rd day. Maverick rocked it and Marc sucked!! Enjoyed your vid and keep em coming!!
Got a 23 v4s just find the seat gives me bum Ache after 45 mins 🤷♂️came off a bmw k16 might this be just breaking in the seat or do I have to change seat tour tech or Sargent / alternative Ducati seat ? Any thoughts ?
Sargent is sending me a seat to test, I'll post a review to see if it's any better. The stock seat isn't as comfy as a dedicated touring bike but I've managed many long rides without much of an issue
Great video and review. I have the 23 pikes peak. I had a mandatory ecu flash done and ever since that flash I have had issues with the evap system. When I bring it out of the garage and it’s a hot day I get horrible surging and the bike will stall sometimes. I’ll pull over open the tank to equalize pressure and I’m good. I’m interested in doing the bypass but can’t find any real literature on this for our bike. Do you have any suggestions? My dealer isn’t up to par…and that’s being kind, lol
I don't think it's an "official" fix, but the idea of the charcoal canister is pretty low tech. In my case, the vent line coming from my tank was disconnected letting my tank vent to atmosphere. The canister was capped off. No more problems.
Great review 👍👍. You have far more kit on your bike than mine, but I think I get slightly better fuel range. I also found the full akro exhaust improved the range slightly. 100% agree with you on needing a taller 6th gear, it’s probably my only complaint except maybe for the heat. Of the three tyre types, which do you think are the best? I think it’s an incredible bike and have never regretted buying it. The amazing thing is when I tested other competitors I found them “asthmatic” when passing at high speed up long hills, especially the GS, but this doesn’t even feel the hills 😃
The tire debate is a difficult one to qualify. The Anakee Road tires really feel like a mix between the stock pirelli's and the road 6 tires. If you stay 99% on road with nothing but light dirt or gravel roads, The road 6 absolutely brings this bike to life. If you still want to maintain some slight off-roading capability, the Anakee Road get my vote.
@@4KMotoring I never take it off road, got a 701 and FE350 for that, but I just really don’t like the pattern on the road 6……the anakee looks so much cooler 😃😃
🤣🤣 I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a consideration I made too. I've used the Road 6 on my work BMW R1250RT-P and did some impressive off-roading with it. Realistically it's probably the best tire out there for most people. That said, the Anakee Road shares a lot of the same construction, and I've been pretty happy with it as well
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Love this bike. Even more so in the rally version. Ultimately I went with the SFV4 in grey Nero. I don’t commute on a bike. Weekend and fair weather rider only.
@@4KMotoringyeah you can’t go wrong either way . The multi way just a bit big and unwieldy for what I want it for. Superb bike nonetheless. If I could afford both , I’d have both!!
Hard to say exactly. The first Gen went from 2003-2009, second gen was 2010-2014, third gen 2015-2019. The Grand Turismo trim level typically comes out in the final year before a redesign. I've not heard any rumors about the 5th gen MTS, but you're free to speculate
Thank you for posting a long term review! I’m on the fence to change out of my R1200 BMW GS Adventure. Either the 1250 GS Adventure, or the Multistrada… I’m riding approx 75(on)/25(offroad). Perhaps, I should take another close look at the Multistrada.
Is that a BMW R1250RT behind it? Random question, if you're walking into the garage and wanting to get away from it all, which one are you more inclined to throw your leg over between the multi and the RT? And why?
Super easy question to answer, Multi all day. The RT is my work bike and I'm not overly fond of it. The boxer engine twists the chassis in a weird way, the tele-lever suspension makes the front end feel numb. The only real edge it has over the Multistrada is sheer wind protection (the multi is good, but the RT blocks everything) The Multistrada is super comfortable on long trips and has a playful character that still makes me giggle. I honestly can't think of a single scenario where I'd choose the RT over the Multistrada
@4KMotoring interesting, thanks for the response. The local bmw and ducati dealer are a little...different...so I have only been able to test ride a used Multi V4s, and haven't been able to test ride the BMW yet at all. I would have thought that the BMW was significantly more comfortable, while the multi was significantly more sporty.
Thank you for the video. I think you raised a lot of valid points especially the rear end of the motorcycle. Where did you find this stuff you put on ? I thought that was interesting thank you, maybe somebody at Ducati will listen. I too am an ASV lever fan. I guess I won’t be buying anyone. I have a 2024 model. I came from 2016 pikes Peak model. I missed a little start up button on the right hand side to turn the bike on. Just below the start kill button. I really dislike this switch by the handlebar. It’s not user-friendly to reach for me. Another thing I wish this bike was able to do is GP shift or reverse shift. I also wish that the heated grips were standard. Again, thanks for the video. Maybe somebody will listen.! And likewise, I also don’t use any of the BS apps, useless garbage. I did just install the xt2 today. I can’t understand why Honda has a Goldwing with Apple CarPlay and no other motorcycle does,….. I think the new road glide does maybe? Interesting you bring up gas mileage. On my way able to get 173 miles on the tank. I made it home with 5 miles to spare.
About a year ago I posted this video about adding the reflective vinyl to the back of the bike, I'll post the video link here: th-cam.com/video/maE88KBWgh8/w-d-xo.html I'm glad you brought up the switch gear, I also greatly missed that button when I first got this V4, it was so convenient and I think a big miss for Ducati not carrying it through to this model. 173 miles seems very "on-brand" for the Multi. Glad you're enjoying it!
I got delivery of a 2024 Rally in July. I have about 80 miles on it now. Everyone else praises the quickshifter so much but for me it doesn't work great. I was better when the bike was completely new. About 50% of the shifts were at least ok. Now, after 80 miles and the first service, the shifts are really clonky (as in gears slamming in) with some rare exceptions. The workshop said they couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. The shifts on my old R1250GSA were clonky - quickshifter and the boxer never went hand in hand. But the multi is almost worse. It's really a pity because the gearbox doesn't seem to like very to be shifted with the clutch either. I do think the whole bike is a bit clonky so I guess maybe I should check chain tension.
Sounds like you've got a bigger issue that needs to be worked out, these quick shifters are buttery smooth as are the gearboxes. Sounds like you've got a bigger issue that needs to be worked out, these quick shifters are buttery smooth as are the gearboxes. If you've got a consistent shifting issue with or without the clutch, I would take advantage of your warranty and get that looked at.
The elephant in the room is the vibrations, which increase when the engine is working hard. This is a problem with the "Twin Pulse" ignition, causing balance issues in the engine. It's the same vibration problem found in Triumph 1200/900 engines with the T-Plane crank. The V4 engine, designed for MotoGP where twin pulse offers an advantage, produces unwanted vibrations in the seat, handlebars, and footpegs in a touring motorcycle.
Compared to the old L-Twin, I would say the vibrations are pretty minimal. Sure, it's not a sewing machine... But that's not why someone buys a Ducati?
Vibration affects everyone differently. I have a Tiger 1200 and it's a non issue for me. I've ridden a '24 that was supposed to "fix" the issue, and I noticed very little difference. I can ride that bike all day with no issues.
@@Kevimoto Spot on about the vibes. The new Tiger 1200’s had a proper tweak to the engine, and it shows. From my time on it, the noticeable vibrations don’t kick in until you’re over 80 mph in top gear. Nice and smooth for the most part-typical Triumph refinement! 👍
At the dealership? All I've had them do is reset service lights, so less than $200 up to this point. That said, I'll be getting fork seals replaced this week which runs about $1k
Love the rut-roh moment at 3:20 did you even notice the revenuer? I actually LoL'd on that one 😂 OEM's not providing Apple CarPlay/Android Auto and ditching their wonky and poor performing apps is really frustrating. OEM's in the auto/truck industry this is standard. In today's world of high end bikes CarPlay/AndroidAuto should be standard. High HP means crap MPG, no way around that. Perhaps riding in Rain mode could improve MPG? Being chain driven, changing sprockets would be a big improvement.
Lol the car in front of me reacted far more than I would've. The Radar cruise caught it slowing down and then again moving out of the way. Also, rain mode softens throttle response which may save a bit of fuel, but cruise control acts independently of throttle maps. Doesn't matter what mode you're in if you're on cruise.
The V4s and the V4s Grand tour do it only when stopped, the rally is the only one to my knowledge capable of deactivating the rear cylinders while moving. It is helpful in all cases though.
How's the ride with a passenger? Thinking about getting one for some two up riding when the girlfriend doesn't want to ride her own bike for those long distance rides.
Passenger accomodations are quite good, especially with the top case installed. Seat is wide and soft, heated element is easy to use, pegs are in a good place. Suspension adapts well to rider/ rider and passenger loads. Wheelie control tries to keep up...
I had a 2015 DVT for a few years before this, so I can definitely offer my perspective. The 2015 is undoubtedly cheaper at this point, so if budget is your ultimate concern then your decision is made for you. If the V4 is within your financial range, everything is better refined and better performing.
@@4KMotoring I have watched all of your videos about the MS 1200s and i am buying a new bike soon after a long time not riding. I found this Multistrada 1200S 2015 with 3000 Miles on the clock. The bike had 1 owner and has had the yearly service at ducati registered. The bike is going for $12K including all the options and luggage he had with it. He literatly ticked every option. My main concern about this bike is reliabilty and resale value down the future. There have been cases where people can't seem to trade their Multistrada's in for ''fear'' of maintance or the expense of it or could it be because of the V4? I definetly want to sell the bike later if it doesn't fit my need or trade it in, but because it is a 2015/2016 i am also fearfull about not being able to trade it in or sell it. I am really itching to ride and i can not make my mind up. Also, i have been looking at Hypermotard 950 2022 for the same price. I don't ride often, only with nice weather. I also don't do many long trips, but i like a comfortable and fast back. I have test ridden them both and i like them both and i can only choose 1. What do you think is more realistic for the longer term?
That's the same line of thinking that led Harley to building tricycles instead of competitive motorcycles. Ducati is performance and innovation. They are dominating MotoGP and WSBK and they brought that tech to market. That's Ducati.
@@4KMotoring Same with Porsche 911. Now all got turbos besides the GT3. All due to a clean environment. Same with the Ducatis twin. Of course they lose their ID. At least among purists :/
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A 20,000 mile review is worth the watch because the owner has a lot ot seat time to evaluate the motorcycle. Great job Chris.
Superb video. I recently purchased the 2022 V4S after 20 years of riding BMW GS and GSA's. It's difficult to make a side-by-side comparison but thus far the Ducati is a superior bike for long distance rides. I have not and will not take the Ducati off road, but the highway performance is far superior to the BMW -- less buffeting and better acceleration. I am a 76 year old BMW advocate, but the Multistrata V4 S is a worthy competitor.
but you we compare highway comfort, will bmw r1250rt be more comfortable?
My V4s now has 25000 miles on it. I adore the thing, she's gorgeous for touring, track days, scratching, etc.
No regrets at all.
No vibration, unlike the BMW XR I owned. I had to sell that it killed my hands.
that graphics kit looks amazing 🔥
Thanks so much for your videos!
Thanks for your support!
Thanks, Chris. I agree with everything you've seen with my 2022 MSV4S Sport.
How much does it cost to service this bike?
Which service are you referring to? The oil change intervals are at 9,000 mi and super easy to do yourself, cost me right about $100. The valve check intervals are at 36,000 mi, and this is not Desmo so it is a traditional valve check like any other bike. Realistically, compared to any modern Yamaha or Honda, you're going to be fairly close in price for routine maintenance.
@@4KMotoring I usually going to dealership to keep warranty. And was shocked for 600mi service for 1250GSA and r9t was over $500. Especially r9t. And than 5000mi $500 again.
Ducati dealerships have transparent maintenance. Look at your local dealers hourly rate and the hour total on the poster to get the cost per service.
Excellent informative review of a very cool looking bike, Ducati really should listen to your feedback to improve the bike, thanks a lot and ride safe
Nice honest review. I may have commented on your paint/decal scheme in one of your other videos, it looks awesome. Be interesting if Ducati, and other manufacturers, will simply have their bikes work with Apple CarPlay (or the Android version like the Goldwing does) which would make life easier. The low gas mileage is a bit shocking, but 95% of Adventure riders are usually not that far from a gas station. And once you reach a certain age you're going to be stopping every hour and a half to take a break anyways.
Yeah, that is kinda disappointing. Android Auto is such a great app and works perfectly on cars! Instead, bike makers want to bind you to an app that is probably not as good as what you use, and in some cases you need to pay extra (really, KTM?). But now Chinese started putting Android Auto to their cheap bikes, so I hope it'll change soon.
After lusting Multistradas for a number of years, I succumbed to the temptation last fall when a 2023 Rally arrived at a nearby dealership. Such an amazing motorcycle that in my opinion would be close to perfect if Carplay was in play. A previously owner Africa Twin Adventure Sports spoiled my with Carplay and I passed on a V4 in 2022, hoping that Ducati would heed to the Sygic complaints from owners. I did buy a Carpuride for my Tiger 900 Rally Pro, which works well, but still would prefer avoiding the add on.
Thanks for your vids Chris! Keep up the good work.
I have the 2023 Multistrada Rally, mostly used for sports touring with some gravel in rural areas. Love the Multistrada!!!! My first big bike over 1000cc!! I was parked next to a V4 and we were comparing the bikes and it looks like Ducati made some slight changes to the evaporation canister. I wasn't aware of the issue and the V4 rider mentioned he had some problems with the evap canister. He looked at my Rally and said it appeared the evap canister was slightly different. I haven't had any issues, but had read about overfilling the tank causing vapor lock so I don't try to fill too full. Plus with the 7.9 gallon tank, I have 250-300 miles per tank depending on type of riding so i don't have to fill to the rim. Glad to hear that even after 20,000 miles you still love the bike.
It's great to hear you're getting such good mileage from your rally, I have been toying with the idea of getting the large gas tank for my v4s. $250 to 300 miles per tank seems perfect for some of the road trips I take.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ducati did make iterative changes to the evap canister, they are continuously improving their products as they go which is something I'm not upset about.
Glad you're enjoying your Mult, thanks for watching!
Just got a 24' rally. I'm so happy to hear the bike has been holding up well. I was actually in the market back in 22' but i went with the BMW GS due to their heritage.
The GS certainly has been around a while, but the Multi has existed since 2003! The generational refinement is certainly present!
@4KMotoring Yup the multistrada as a bike has been around for a while. I had a 2006 multistrada 1000s. The v4 grand tourismo compared to the bmw liquid cooled boxer was definitely newer all around in comparison.
Reasonable and justified recommendations! I heard that Ducati is working on its connect app to get rid of it always staying on top. I use Ducati connect only as a backup. I am delighted with my 2023 V4 Rally.
Unfortunately I've heard that the behavior of the app is directly due to requirements from Bosch, who makes the module Ducati uses. I would not expect to see any significant changes in this generation.
On a side note, what fuel range are you seeing in the real world with the Rally?
@@4KMotoring Re Ducati connect, I guess that Ducati tries hard because the situation sucks.
Here is my consumption data:
My usual range when topped up is around 280 miles. Max. range so far was 320 miles.
My typical consumption is 47 - 50 mpg when riding at 3000 - 5000 rpm overland at speeds up to 68 mph (max. overland speed limit in Italy, France, Switzerland is lower). Very often, in road conditions in central Europe (narrow, twisty, small towns), my typical touring speed lays between 15 - 40 mph depending on road conditions. Very often the Rally runs on 2 cylinders in these conditions.
This figure gets up to 39 mpg on highways. It is of course possible to get the consumption way up when revving higher. I do this short term when overtaking or on highways which I try to avoid.
On high alpine roads (Switzerland, France, Austria) my consumption is more on the 47mpg end.
I am delighted with the consumption I see!
"Wow, a 20,000-mile review on the 2022 Ducati Multistrada V4! Can't wait to hear about the long-term performance and any surprises along the way. Thanks for sharing your insights!"
Great video! I bought my multi in March and love it! You’re right…That V4 is the crown jewel! Working on getting the Road 6s next. I’m still debating if I should get the full exhaust. Like the idea but very expensive! Keep that V4 content coming! Thanks!
My only regret with the exhaust is not doing it sooner, the little bump and power is nice, but it's that noise that makes all the difference. There's nothing like this screaming V4 and the little pops you get with the quick shifter.
In my opinion, you can probably save a little cash and get a catless b-pipe to shave off some weight and get better sound for less than the full factory race exhaust
Get the race exhaust.
It wakes the bike up.
Try a BHP UK decat link pie and map for MS V4S. Cost is £1600 UK Sterling. Quality product that sounds amazing. But the map is the really clever bit, the engine runs smoother and pulls better at low rpm - highly recommended 👍
Chris thanks for the vid.. I love the Ducs. I have a 1200S Monster and love it. I looked at the Multi to add to the table but decided against it and went with the GSA... Because of all the BS issues that you have with yours and honestly. Ducati doesn't give a **** so...I went with the Beamer. I disagree with the heat dumping on my leg, and...they go 300k miles with no problem and I can do the valve adjustment myself....
The 1200s dumps the heat on my right leg and that's another reason I decided for the GSA..... BTW, I was at GP on the monster at Duc Island all 3 days. Lunch rocked on the 3rd day.
Maverick rocked it and Marc sucked!! Enjoyed your vid and keep em coming!!
Got a 23 v4s just find the seat gives me bum Ache after 45 mins 🤷♂️came off a bmw k16 might this be just breaking in the seat or do I have to change seat tour tech or Sargent / alternative Ducati seat ? Any thoughts ?
Sargent is sending me a seat to test, I'll post a review to see if it's any better. The stock seat isn't as comfy as a dedicated touring bike but I've managed many long rides without much of an issue
Great video and review.
I have the 23 pikes peak. I had a mandatory ecu flash done and ever since that flash I have had issues with the evap system. When I bring it out of the garage and it’s a hot day I get horrible surging and the bike will stall sometimes. I’ll pull over open the tank to equalize pressure and I’m good.
I’m interested in doing the bypass but can’t find any real literature on this for our bike.
Do you have any suggestions? My dealer isn’t up to par…and that’s being kind, lol
I don't think it's an "official" fix, but the idea of the charcoal canister is pretty low tech. In my case, the vent line coming from my tank was disconnected letting my tank vent to atmosphere. The canister was capped off. No more problems.
Great review 👍👍. You have far more kit on your bike than mine, but I think I get slightly better fuel range. I also found the full akro exhaust improved the range slightly. 100% agree with you on needing a taller 6th gear, it’s probably my only complaint except maybe for the heat.
Of the three tyre types, which do you think are the best?
I think it’s an incredible bike and have never regretted buying it. The amazing thing is when I tested other competitors I found them “asthmatic” when passing at high speed up long hills, especially the GS, but this doesn’t even feel the hills 😃
The tire debate is a difficult one to qualify. The Anakee Road tires really feel like a mix between the stock pirelli's and the road 6 tires. If you stay 99% on road with nothing but light dirt or gravel roads, The road 6 absolutely brings this bike to life. If you still want to maintain some slight off-roading capability, the Anakee Road get my vote.
@@4KMotoring I never take it off road, got a 701 and FE350 for that, but I just really don’t like the pattern on the road 6……the anakee looks so much cooler 😃😃
🤣🤣 I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a consideration I made too.
I've used the Road 6 on my work BMW R1250RT-P and did some impressive off-roading with it. Realistically it's probably the best tire out there for most people. That said, the Anakee Road shares a lot of the same construction, and I've been pretty happy with it as well
Thanks for the review. Any link to the foot pegs and spot lights on the crash bars? Looking for same.
I made a video a while back when I installed the crash bars, but I'll include all the links below:
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Amazon LED Driving Lights-
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Highway Pegs-
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I have 17k on my 19 and absolutely love it😊
Great to hear!
Love this bike. Even more so in the rally version. Ultimately I went with the SFV4 in grey Nero. I don’t commute on a bike. Weekend and fair weather rider only.
Good choice!
@@4KMotoringyeah you can’t go wrong either way . The multi way just a bit big and unwieldy for what I want it for. Superb bike nonetheless. If I could afford both , I’d have both!!
When do you think they will update the MTS V4S to cover these and other issues? MTS V2S owner waiting for the next version to upgrade...
Hard to say exactly. The first Gen went from 2003-2009, second gen was 2010-2014, third gen 2015-2019. The Grand Turismo trim level typically comes out in the final year before a redesign. I've not heard any rumors about the 5th gen MTS, but you're free to speculate
Are those original graphics, if not, where did you get them?
I have the information in my video below:
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Do you know where you got the highway pegs?
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Make sure your use locktite
Where did u get decals?
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What are those aux lights? Couldn't find on Amazon. You should join us on the next Giro Alpino!
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Thank you for posting a long term review! I’m on the fence to change out of my R1200 BMW GS Adventure. Either the 1250 GS Adventure, or the Multistrada… I’m riding approx 75(on)/25(offroad). Perhaps, I should take another close look at the Multistrada.
They both are valid in their own ways, but definitely don't discount the Multi
По фен-шую ступеней КПП должно быть 3 или 5, далее золотое сечение, то есть 3+5, 8+5, 13+8 и так далее...
Is that a BMW R1250RT behind it? Random question, if you're walking into the garage and wanting to get away from it all, which one are you more inclined to throw your leg over between the multi and the RT? And why?
Super easy question to answer, Multi all day. The RT is my work bike and I'm not overly fond of it. The boxer engine twists the chassis in a weird way, the tele-lever suspension makes the front end feel numb. The only real edge it has over the Multistrada is sheer wind protection (the multi is good, but the RT blocks everything)
The Multistrada is super comfortable on long trips and has a playful character that still makes me giggle. I honestly can't think of a single scenario where I'd choose the RT over the Multistrada
@4KMotoring interesting, thanks for the response. The local bmw and ducati dealer are a little...different...so I have only been able to test ride a used Multi V4s, and haven't been able to test ride the BMW yet at all.
I would have thought that the BMW was significantly more comfortable, while the multi was significantly more sporty.
Thank you for the video. I think you raised a lot of valid points especially the rear end of the motorcycle. Where did you find this stuff you put on ? I thought that was interesting thank you, maybe somebody at Ducati will listen. I too am an ASV lever fan. I guess I won’t be buying anyone.
I have a 2024 model. I came from 2016 pikes Peak model. I missed a little start up button on the right hand side to turn the bike on. Just below the start kill button. I really dislike this switch by the handlebar. It’s not user-friendly to reach for me. Another thing I wish this bike was able to do is GP shift or reverse shift. I also wish that the heated grips were standard. Again, thanks for the video. Maybe somebody will listen.!
And likewise, I also don’t use any of the BS apps, useless garbage. I did just install the xt2 today. I can’t understand why Honda has a Goldwing with Apple CarPlay and no other motorcycle does,….. I think the new road glide does maybe? Interesting you bring up gas mileage. On my way able to get 173 miles on the tank. I made it home with 5 miles to spare.
About a year ago I posted this video about adding the reflective vinyl to the back of the bike, I'll post the video link here:
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I'm glad you brought up the switch gear, I also greatly missed that button when I first got this V4, it was so convenient and I think a big miss for Ducati not carrying it through to this model.
173 miles seems very "on-brand" for the Multi. Glad you're enjoying it!
I got delivery of a 2024 Rally in July. I have about 80 miles on it now. Everyone else praises the quickshifter so much but for me it doesn't work great. I was better when the bike was completely new. About 50% of the shifts were at least ok. Now, after 80 miles and the first service, the shifts are really clonky (as in gears slamming in) with some rare exceptions. The workshop said they couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. The shifts on my old R1250GSA were clonky - quickshifter and the boxer never went hand in hand. But the multi is almost worse.
It's really a pity because the gearbox doesn't seem to like very to be shifted with the clutch either.
I do think the whole bike is a bit clonky so I guess maybe I should check chain tension.
Sounds like you've got a bigger issue that needs to be worked out, these quick shifters are buttery smooth as are the gearboxes. Sounds like you've got a bigger issue that needs to be worked out, these quick shifters are buttery smooth as are the gearboxes. If you've got a consistent shifting issue with or without the clutch, I would take advantage of your warranty and get that looked at.
The elephant in the room is the vibrations, which increase when the engine is working hard. This is a problem with the "Twin Pulse" ignition, causing balance issues in the engine. It's the same vibration problem found in Triumph 1200/900 engines with the T-Plane crank. The V4 engine, designed for MotoGP where twin pulse offers an advantage, produces unwanted vibrations in the seat, handlebars, and footpegs in a touring motorcycle.
Compared to the old L-Twin, I would say the vibrations are pretty minimal. Sure, it's not a sewing machine... But that's not why someone buys a Ducati?
Vibration affects everyone differently. I have a Tiger 1200 and it's a non issue for me. I've ridden a '24 that was supposed to "fix" the issue, and I noticed very little difference. I can ride that bike all day with no issues.
@@Kevimoto Spot on about the vibes. The new Tiger 1200’s had a proper tweak to the engine, and it shows. From my time on it, the noticeable vibrations don’t kick in until you’re over 80 mph in top gear. Nice and smooth for the most part-typical Triumph refinement! 👍
One question. How much money have you spent at the dealership on service?
At the dealership? All I've had them do is reset service lights, so less than $200 up to this point. That said, I'll be getting fork seals replaced this week which runs about $1k
Dude where s the decals from wow! its base is white yeah?
The bike is red underneath the wrap. I have a video on my channel where I talk all about it
Love the rut-roh moment at 3:20 did you even notice the revenuer? I actually LoL'd on that one 😂 OEM's not providing Apple CarPlay/Android Auto and ditching their wonky and poor performing apps is really frustrating. OEM's in the auto/truck industry this is standard. In today's world of high end bikes CarPlay/AndroidAuto should be standard. High HP means crap MPG, no way around that. Perhaps riding in Rain mode could improve MPG? Being chain driven, changing sprockets would be a big improvement.
Lol the car in front of me reacted far more than I would've. The Radar cruise caught it slowing down and then again moving out of the way.
Also, rain mode softens throttle response which may save a bit of fuel, but cruise control acts independently of throttle maps. Doesn't matter what mode you're in if you're on cruise.
You talk several times about rear cylinder deactivation but from all my research only the Rally does that, the V4S and V4S Grand Tour don't do it.
The V4s and the V4s Grand tour do it only when stopped, the rally is the only one to my knowledge capable of deactivating the rear cylinders while moving. It is helpful in all cases though.
@@4KMotoring oh, I see. I'm about to get a Grand Tour, trying to learn as much about it as I can. Thanks!
Awesome bike! You'll love it!
How's the ride with a passenger? Thinking about getting one for some two up riding when the girlfriend doesn't want to ride her own bike for those long distance rides.
Passenger accomodations are quite good, especially with the top case installed. Seat is wide and soft, heated element is easy to use, pegs are in a good place.
Suspension adapts well to rider/ rider and passenger loads. Wheelie control tries to keep up...
This or a 2015 Multistrada DVT😂😂😂
I had a 2015 DVT for a few years before this, so I can definitely offer my perspective. The 2015 is undoubtedly cheaper at this point, so if budget is your ultimate concern then your decision is made for you. If the V4 is within your financial range, everything is better refined and better performing.
@@4KMotoring I have watched all of your videos about the MS 1200s and i am buying a new bike soon after a long time not riding. I found this Multistrada 1200S 2015 with 3000 Miles on the clock. The bike had 1 owner and has had the yearly service at ducati registered. The bike is going for $12K including all the options and luggage he had with it. He literatly ticked every option.
My main concern about this bike is reliabilty and resale value down the future. There have been cases where people can't seem to trade their Multistrada's in for ''fear'' of maintance or the expense of it or could it be because of the V4? I definetly want to sell the bike later if it doesn't fit my need or trade it in, but because it is a 2015/2016 i am also fearfull about not being able to trade it in or sell it. I am really itching to ride and i can not make my mind up. Also, i have been looking at Hypermotard 950 2022 for the same price. I don't ride often, only with nice weather. I also don't do many long trips, but i like a comfortable and fast back.
I have test ridden them both and i like them both and i can only choose 1. What do you think is more realistic for the longer term?
Not a Ducati. Ducati said goodbye to their own ID when they began to phase out twin. Ducati = twin and single swing-arm.
That's the same line of thinking that led Harley to building tricycles instead of competitive motorcycles.
Ducati is performance and innovation. They are dominating MotoGP and WSBK and they brought that tech to market. That's Ducati.
@@4KMotoring Same with Porsche 911. Now all got turbos besides the GT3. All due to a clean environment. Same with the Ducatis twin. Of course they lose their ID. At least among purists :/
Sucks to live in a museum.