The Best Starcraft 2 Comeback ever?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- One of the best starcraft 2 comebacks ever in the game between Denver & Gungfubanda?
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No, he plays Zerg.
why dont Protoss build flying units? Void Rays entire army? They can kill zerg easily
I remember when Denver thought he had Elazer, then Elazer went "wait, I"m Elazer" and Elazered him
"Wait, I'm Elazer"?
The _disrespect_ (I know he didn't use thse words, but still) 😭😭😭
@@henryviiifake8244 Did you see his hand rub when he realized that he was, in fact, *the* Elazer and Denver's muta-only strat was only the desperate last ditch attempts to win?
What match was that?
@@mancamiatipoola Look back at SC2HL's video list, it's only 3 or 4 vids away
I've never seen someone throw a game so hard. And it deeply bothers me that Denver wasn't long distance mining for like 15 minutes. He could have made a new hatchery several times over lmao
Yeah, his top right expansion, or the untouched top-middle base, he had options for sure.
The oracle was constantly looking for his drones
Oracle was camping, even stray zealots could take them out. More a liability than a strength
@@deseanlothian Not originally. There were 5 drones idle for a good portion of that game prior to the spore push and him hunting with an oracle/dt.
How on earth we let it get to that is beyond me.
He should've just put a bunch of shield batteries on top right rather than sit on 600+ minerals. Would've made the base impossible to be sieged
@@reyalfa18 dude,if the DT finds the SLOW AF spores OFF CREEP there is no way they can get back to creep to burrow (spores only gib vision when burrowed)
Why GFB didn't just send a warp prism full of zealots to poke buildings starting at minute 25 and deny viper recharges instead of just running squads into lurkers is an eternal mystery.
Pros prefer to prioritize workers above buildings, because the first are much more easier to kill than the seconds and deal instant dmg to the enemy as it reduces it's ability to produce anything. I agree with you though, pros are sometimes overlooking the strategy of sniping buildings :) The drawback is that it's really micro intensive as you have to manage both your army and the sniping squad. If the opponent is rich or just have a stronger army than yours, which was the case for Denver almost the entire game, he could had just remade the buildings.
@@Abandon-art Considering that he doesnt have any units to control anyway, it wouldn't be micro intensive. He was just too lazy to think or act
Fuck that why did he not warp in 2 stalkers sooner and kill the overloads just floating everywhere on his side of the map...
Why not 1 warp prism with worker to build a nexus on the lower island....
@@ArkAngelHFB Try hard, climb to his level and you'll find out that the human attention is limited, and that you may commit obvious mistakes when under pressure.
I know there have been graphical improvements since it came out, but this game still looks so good even in 2021
I think the super smooth pathfinding also plays a role in making this game look so good.
Starcraft always looked pretty good on high settings. I don't think they really had any graphics patch since WoL...
@@theSleepyLamp was a few resolution bumps and texture packs and new aliasing tech, but the game looked grat from WOL anyway, they're more noticeable if you compare 2021 footage to 2010
@@Ollay245 I just wished the golden days of Blizzard werent long gone by now. I love SC2, it is the most exciting game to watch hands down. The raw amount of skill and technique required to be on this level of play is at a point where FPS pro gamers cant even imagine. And it breaks my heart knowing this game has been slowly dying for so long. I pray the "new blizzard" that is being made by all the ex employees can revive this game spiritually.
@@godturkey4098 Whats the new blizzard??
GungFu kinda threw it from his first moves, killing spore in 2nd base but then attacking in the 3rd with DT.
Or later when he looks at the hydra den and just goes... no I'l leave that alive with 100 hp... he is only completely wrecking me with them and what morphs out of them.
Gung Fu couldn't go into the nat anyways, there was an overseer
Why can't he just put a nexus a little bit off? Like he is denied by 1 overlord because he can't think to put the Nexus slightly out of place?
That's the pro-level ditch a lot of these players fall into because they're so used to drilling thousands of "standard" games; they never think outside the box or get creative when things get weird. That's what separates "pro" from "godly"; these guys from people like Serral or Has.
All the people saying that its a lack of creativity, let me tell you, if you place a nexus even 1 hex off, you need about 4 more workers for the same amount of saturation. That is 5 more workers needed to produce, 5 less army supply and so on. Much more worth waiting for the creep to subside than place off centre. The maths on this is subtly significant.
In starcraft 1 the minerals and gas were in unorthodox places, so it wouldn't be q problem for me lol
Gung could have had a dark Templar and an observer behind the gold minerals to shut down all of that harassment to his probes
I don't think I've ever seen 11 immortals in a single screenshot, not even in the Campaigns wow! :D
Ikr I saw the thumbnail and was like “ okay I gotta watch this”
I actually watched a game recently... I can't remember if it was an older video, it probably was, but I think the Protoss player in that one got up to 17 Immortals? It was pretty crazy
The player cams really made this. I was only half-watching this at work live; glad I watched this.
Honestly, I couldn't tell who was winning with how scrappy the game was in the middle, between GunGFu not having map control, and Denver not having bases.
Wow man, gungfu threw this game😳
I hate that comments like this get up voted to the top and immediately spoil the game for new viewers...
@@SolarCrusader I mean, wouldn't really be a comeback if Gungu won, would it?
@@SolarCrusader I'm sorry man, it was not my intention to spoil the game😪
@@SolarCrusader to be fair you shouldn't be reading comments if you haven't watched the video. Kinda asking for it.
Just open the video and don't read the comments. Of COURSE the comments will spoil the result, that's what we are commenting on!
Denver: No, I have a tumor. This is the last game I'll ever play.
GunGFuBanDa: :(
Honestly watching mid and low-tier players is where the real entertainment is at
These are definetely not low or mid teir players lmao
@@emlen5847 Well they weren't acting like it lol
@@rustyclayton9260 true lmao but come on, it happens to the best too
@@emlen5847 Yeah I would have lost way before them anyway so I don't have any room to talk lol. Those who can't do critique.
@@emlen5847 In terms of the pro scene it seems like they are
Sorry SC2HL this was amazing but nothing can beat Maru vs Solar comeback in GSL
neeb had a ridiculous come back as well ... agasint bly i think it was
Serral vs Maru IMO
Watching Denver's 5 drones just afk for about 20 minutes was nuts. I know they don't give basically any income with that base positioining but it could have added up int he background XD
That punch in the camera at the end xDDDD
lol that camera pull at the end. you know he was raging HARD after throwing that
the blinding clouds on the immortals is so clutch !!
gunfu sooooo mad he broke his camera there at the end ahahahahahaha
Were they _both_ having an off day or something? This was really not great for a pro-level game...
it makes you realise just how perfect a game the top-level pros play, that even the mid-tier pros look so sloppy
I don't know what you're talking about this was the most amazing game I've seen in awhile. XD
@@redblack9618 With the 3 Vipers that were misrallied right into the Protoss army? That wasn't the only time they mis-microed... there were a lot of times where the Protoss didn't target the right thing in battle or took extra shots without answering, there were times each of them were badly out of position. There were a lot of mistakes, some big and some little, that each of them made _and_ got punished for making... It felt like watching a Diamond level game at times.
I seen each of them play better than this, that's why I said it felt like they were _both_ having an off day.
@@Thescott16 I don't know about you but I find predictable games where everything goes according to plan super boring.
@@redblack9618 I'm going to be blunt because there's no easy way to say this... If that's what you honestly see in top level pro games, then you simply don't comprehend what's actually happening.
18:32 comback
RIP zealot 4:38
Hot damn this was a ridiculous game. These Winter Dreamhack games are NOT disappointing!
Those Immortals Melted
COMEBACK? dude the zerg had the protoss cornered the entire game lmao
he could use the DG + prism to quickly jump on tumors and take them out in one hit, if he only took out tumors he would have draw
He also called have gotten a draw by destroying the creep tumors in Denver's main with Oracle reveal, then planting a Nexus there. The active creep tumor would have taken forever to get back to the main, and in that time, Denver could have gone to the other side of the map and planted another Nexus, and so on ad infinitum
Feels bad for GunGFu
I'd say he deserved to lose, really showcasing some classic protoss IQ there
Peeps being harsh on GungFu here. He made mistakes, he knew it, and he'll learn from it. Even the best have bad games, and it's a looooooonnngg road to be the best before you start really minimizing the amount of mistakes made.
Gonna wait for gungfu to send this to IODIS
I'm a bit surprised that the game dragged on for that long after the successful adept timing attack by the Protoss. Funny game.
he could kill the dt by shooting at his own unit when the DT is lined up with the own unit 22:00
Not worth the risk of killing your own units and getting them killed by the dt when you could’ve ran away and saved everyone
@@biggiebeats1490 its just an option
throw toss
Denver had 5 workers at the end and isn't long distance mining, I don't understand.
What a throw
"Around 4:20 is a very good timing" You heard it here first guys.
it is just good to see new players in the pro scene of sc2 🤗
I dunno what Gungfu is doing. You don't win games waiting for your opponent to make mistakes at the pro level.
that's exactly what games at the pro level is. waiting for opponents to make mistakes.
you skipped the most important part at 19:40 when protoss army shrink 2x
wow what a game I love this channel!
Reynor vs Skillous game 1 was up there aswell
Question: Do Overlords apply creep beneath them? How does that work? Do they have to sit still for some amount of time? Or?
It's an ability that can be toggled on when the overlord isn't moving.
Cool. Ty, i always wondered why ppl would bring Overlords on big raids
that protoss was braindead.
Unbelievable
Gunfu could have just snipe the active creep tumor. Then it will be a draw. No need to kill the spore.
I don't get why Gungfu doesn't go air at 11:30
What's with Denver and his comebacks lately?
He refused to draw, and then -leave- won the game. What a chad xD
4.30 would never happen to me because I f2 XD
lurkers are broken. people wonder why protoss play air....
What a crazy game!
WTF did I just watch.
Why not use oracle to kill tumor?
This was like watching a gold match lol
How come he didn't just use the dt to kill the hatch so that he could reveal the zerg
He did, eventually. But that just reveals. He still can't kill the spores and they count as buildings.
Noob here, anyone know where to watch from the beginning?
one of ESL_SC2's recent vods on twitch from two days ago
@@nielsunnerup7099 thanks appreciate it
he needed zealots to provide a buffer for his immortals
Thank you for echoing what the casters said
@@outof7heblue i mute the caster ...
To me the best comeback is still the one that happened against Innovation, just because he's the last person you'd expect to let it happen. I don't remember who did it.
This looks like an IODIS game lol
Gungfu choked
How do you come back from this? You're throwing zealots at lurkers.
420 timing nice
damn that was a good game!!
Exelente partida , estubo emocionante y divertido xd
As far as pros go, gungfu isnt great. makes sense he lost 3-0. but gave us a great game!
No comeback here. Just a zerg casually 3-0 a protoss.
It’s not that big of a “comeback”.
Toss sacrificed a lot of his economy to be aggressive. Even with all that harass, they haven’t distanced themselves so much.
More like worst Starcraft 2 throw ever.
peak NA
Zerg got stupid spell casters and units overall. Those abducts are too much. Psi storms needs like 2 seconds to inflict the petty full damage and templars are ridiculously slow too.
I swear the new faces in sc2 amateur matches are all protoss and absolute garbage
lurkers……they are too imbalanced in sc2.
Haha, makes immortals look pretty shitty against units its supposed to counter. So squishy
This is worse than some bronze game
Biggest in denial player ever. He threw the game and did not want to admit defeat. Tried to go for a draw and just lost without any honour left.
am i the only one that thinks zerg takes less skill than the other 2 races?
Painful to watch
This game shows pvz ground imbalance, making majority of protoss play skytoss. Colossus should have distance not less than lurkers and/or immortals should not die in masses while on seige of lurkers.
Meu Deus que jogo horrivel ambos debiam ter perdido, perça de tempo assistir un jogo de esses
Total noobs
Gg
zerg cringe
2nd comment
The most confusing/annoying fake accent ever. Vipez but then also RRRRRRRRRRoaches.
RRRRoaches
Best comeback ever? No. Title should say, "how zerg mechanics are broken". Change my mind
Also, Catz has no game sense. So idiotic
GunGfu literally was trying to lose he could have won so easily for so much of the game.
Instead he gives away bases doesnt push his advantage and doesn't tech up. If he built a couple tempest or disruptors or even just engaged lurkers with a battery that was a free win.
@@patrickcampbell957 Yeah I was wondering where his air units were at. What can't lurkers hit? Air units. Tempest were the perfect answer to this.
What comeback? Protoss was never really ahead.
zerg games so boring
I remember the game got called for GungfuBanda like twenty minutes in so I closed the stream, actually didn’t realize Denver won this game
He shouldn't have
Gah! What a frustrating game to watch! There were at least 3 win spots if either player just went for it.
Painful to watch all the gungfubanda's mistakes here
In the end he could've made a warp prism and take the island base, Denver had no way to get to it
@@jacobsvensson8193 Abduct Lurkers into the island base.
@@brighamwhitaker9053 that'll take a minutr
@@jacobsvensson8193 Actual Big Brain move here.
@@jacobsvensson8193 destroy the rocks with lurkers
is this a come back? it feels more like a game where both players keep throwing harder than the last.
Denver proving no game is unwinnable, so long as your opponent apparently suffers a brain aneurysm and stops play.
Defeat from the jaws of victory over and over.
Looks more like a throw.
Or a double throw!?
arent all “comebacks” ultimately throws by the other party?
@@DaCooGa Nope
@@DaCooGa I don't agree, but yeah, I both players played perfectly comebacks would not be possible
This is a type of game I would casually have against a friend xD
GungFu got saaaaltyyyy at the end xD
The hand signals at 18:00 LOL! Dude was like how did I just lose this?
That was a painfully hard throw.
Denver could have mined. GunFu could have done a couple of colossi...
I knew GunG would lose the moment he decided he couldn't take a favorable engagement. Or just, you know, kill Zerg structures. Protoss wins that base race by far.
There is something I don't understand about casters in general, is it me or sometimes they laugh for no reason? like, "a drone walked home from some place, AHAHAHAH", I mean don't get me wrong, I lol about stupid things, but often times seems fake.