I’m really glad I watched until the end of this video. I’m going to be watching that proposal very closely. Who votes and how the vote. It will determine how I decide to continue, or not, with this game.
ILL BE honest AT FIRST i was a lil bit SOUR when you first threw it up in the AIR, just the fact that DAO is funding it but NOW WOOOOOOOH MAN!! IT's a SPicy TOPIC and I LOVE the IDEA of $2packs, GREAT POINTS OVERALL 🚀🚀🚀 I would rather have the Packs be SOLD INstead of being BURNED so yeah $2 packs unless they bring back Conflicts or AIrDrops
Just a thought on this repricing issue. I agree with those that think lowering the price of normal packs would be a mistake, just devaluing the cards but I think they missed a trick with the starter packs. Instead of 5 dollars for 25 cards, make it 2 dollars for 10 cards. Not even a price cut per card but gives you a cheap impulse buy pack and can be marketed as twice as many cards for half the price of a normal pack. Maybe even give them a chance of a gold foil, just less than normal to leave a bit of excitement in them.
TBH I am not sold on "starter packs" at all. I feel like a well priced "base pack" would eliminate the need to even HAVE a starter pack! The starter packs are being made BECAUSE of the high cost of the base packs. Fixing the base pack price would make starter packs unnecessary. That's something I've been thinking about a lot lately.. a lot of wasted programming time and thought on something that isn't even needed if they just priced the product correctly to begin with IMHO.
I bought all the recent promo cards + Heloise. However, that's as far as my fiat capabilities go. I need a break, so the only way I'm buying CA right now is if SPS spikes so I can finally take advantage of a fraction of what I've earned playing this game. $4 is definitely too high for the current overall performance of the game.
I saw Azircon and Tofu discuss this in the shard holders channel yesterday, Vugtis and Azircon are against it atm. You'll need a lot of staked sps votes to win this proposal, man! Tofu so far is undecided and needs to think it over. ...
I think we may have Tofu on the side of $2 packs based on his reply to the HIVE blog :) That bodes well since 1x Tofu = 1x AZ + 1x VUG. Those whales would cancel each other out! lol
Great video. Valid arguments. Unfortunately, Matt and many whales are of another opinion and will sink this planned proposal before it is up for voting. If it does not cater to the whales, they simply sink proposals with sometimes only one vote cast. Sadly, this is how the DAO works right now. It shouldn't be a DAO vote to start with and second Matt should take some more Marketing classes about supply and demand before being so stubborn on his stance regarding pack prices. It is about attracting new players to the game and the prospect of paying 4 USD x 2500 packs = USD 10'000 for a max deck every 1.5 years is simply to expensive to attract masses of low, medium and top-spending players. Just my 2c.
I just spent all my current DEC getting ready for Survival mode lol. Only had 100K saved up but hey, I want to be able to play all the formats, so gotta do what I gotta do! I feel like if I don't buy a ton of summoners right now, I may not have the chance later...
I’ve told Matt on live streams that he priced me out of the game at the prices of packs and promo card prices. I own 2M CP and 9 land plots, so I’m a person that believes in the game and want to be an owner of cards. Rebellion was just to expensive so I didn’t buy. If Arcana is $4 I won’t buy it either. I would love to buy a few hundred packs. I can afford $600 to play in Silver. I’m not interested in spending $1200 to do that. Just to expensive.. At $4/pack I’ll pass and buy plots, Beta, and Untamed and wait for a reasonable price some day in the future.
I'm with ya! I bought into Rebellion, but don't have the liquid to buy into CA. If they keep things at $4 / pack I may end up only buying 1 of every 2x sets just so I can play in modern... that or I'll just bot wild. Fingers crossed for cheap packs!
@@thepsilence I’m sure glad I was scooping up wild cards during that fire sale last year like you were. You made that video towards the tail end of it. Going to make bottling more successful if that’s how it ends up.
@@bananas-01 yeah dont come crying again, when your cards lose a lot of value. You can not price the new set lower as the last set unless you want to accept that rebellion is going to lose a lot of value if we get $2 packs. It already lost value just by openly discussing the possibility that the new set could be priced at $2. The prices for rebellion would have gone up now that it´s sold out, but markets hate uncertainty and I changed my mind on buying rebellion "cheap" now. What we need is to prove that sets can hold value when the next one comes out, at least as long as it´s still in modern. If Rebellion is just going to go down from here like CL did, were finished. This is so obvious thats why it´s just a dumb idea. Knock it off!
You are making a very valid point. Thanks for explaining this so clearly. This would get my vote.
LEGENDARY VIDEO!!!! A lot of Excellent points and Information, Thanks for sharing!!!
I’m really glad I watched until the end of this video. I’m going to be watching that proposal very closely. Who votes and how the vote. It will determine how I decide to continue, or not, with this game.
ILL BE honest AT FIRST i was a lil bit SOUR when you first threw it up in the AIR, just the fact that DAO is funding it but NOW WOOOOOOOH MAN!! IT's a SPicy TOPIC and I LOVE the IDEA of $2packs, GREAT POINTS OVERALL 🚀🚀🚀 I would rather have the Packs be SOLD INstead of being BURNED so yeah $2 packs unless they bring back Conflicts or AIrDrops
Just a thought on this repricing issue. I agree with those that think lowering the price of normal packs would be a mistake, just devaluing the cards but I think they missed a trick with the starter packs. Instead of 5 dollars for 25 cards, make it 2 dollars for 10 cards. Not even a price cut per card but gives you a cheap impulse buy pack and can be marketed as twice as many cards for half the price of a normal pack. Maybe even give them a chance of a gold foil, just less than normal to leave a bit of excitement in them.
TBH I am not sold on "starter packs" at all. I feel like a well priced "base pack" would eliminate the need to even HAVE a starter pack! The starter packs are being made BECAUSE of the high cost of the base packs. Fixing the base pack price would make starter packs unnecessary. That's something I've been thinking about a lot lately.. a lot of wasted programming time and thought on something that isn't even needed if they just priced the product correctly to begin with IMHO.
I bought all the recent promo cards + Heloise. However, that's as far as my fiat capabilities go. I need a break, so the only way I'm buying CA right now is if SPS spikes so I can finally take advantage of a fraction of what I've earned playing this game. $4 is definitely too high for the current overall performance of the game.
You are such a dedicated player! To hear this coming from you should REALLY make them consider their approach...
Only thing that could save the game …. If it is possible to save it.
I saw Azircon and Tofu discuss this in the shard holders channel yesterday, Vugtis and Azircon are against it atm. You'll need a lot of staked sps votes to win this proposal, man!
Tofu so far is undecided and needs to think it over. ...
I think we may have Tofu on the side of $2 packs based on his reply to the HIVE blog :) That bodes well since 1x Tofu = 1x AZ + 1x VUG. Those whales would cancel each other out! lol
Great video. Valid arguments. Unfortunately, Matt and many whales are of another opinion and will sink this planned proposal before it is up for voting.
If it does not cater to the whales, they simply sink proposals with sometimes only one vote cast. Sadly, this is how the DAO works right now.
It shouldn't be a DAO vote to start with and second Matt should take some more Marketing classes about supply and demand before being so stubborn on his stance regarding pack prices.
It is about attracting new players to the game and the prospect of paying 4 USD x 2500 packs = USD 10'000 for a max deck every 1.5 years is simply to expensive to attract masses of low, medium and top-spending players. Just my 2c.
At least it looks like we may have Tofu!
Where are you at DEC wise?
I just spent all my current DEC getting ready for Survival mode lol. Only had 100K saved up but hey, I want to be able to play all the formats, so gotta do what I gotta do! I feel like if I don't buy a ton of summoners right now, I may not have the chance later...
just curious what's your ravnica guild allegiance? 😂
I like to thing I am a GRUUL or BOROS guy... but I lean SELESNYA. I am not a big far of blue / black but my most powerful decks are all U/B, obv lol.
I’ve told Matt on live streams that he priced me out of the game at the prices of packs and promo card prices. I own 2M CP and 9 land plots, so I’m a person that believes in the game and want to be an owner of cards. Rebellion was just to expensive so I didn’t buy. If Arcana is $4 I won’t buy it either. I would love to buy a few hundred packs. I can afford $600 to play in Silver. I’m not interested in spending $1200 to do that. Just to expensive.. At $4/pack I’ll pass and buy plots, Beta, and Untamed and wait for a reasonable price some day in the future.
I'm with ya! I bought into Rebellion, but don't have the liquid to buy into CA. If they keep things at $4 / pack I may end up only buying 1 of every 2x sets just so I can play in modern... that or I'll just bot wild. Fingers crossed for cheap packs!
@@thepsilence I’m sure glad I was scooping up wild cards during that fire sale last year like you were. You made that video towards the tail end of it. Going to make bottling more successful if that’s how it ends up.
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Make it $2 for 25 soulbound cards. Win win
what a stupid idea.
@@bananas-01 yeah dont come crying again, when your cards lose a lot of value. You can not price the new set lower as the last set unless you want to accept that rebellion is going to lose a lot of value if we get $2 packs. It already lost value just by openly discussing the possibility that the new set could be priced at $2. The prices for rebellion would have gone up now that it´s sold out, but markets hate uncertainty and I changed my mind on buying rebellion "cheap" now. What we need is to prove that sets can hold value when the next one comes out, at least as long as it´s still in modern. If Rebellion is just going to go down from here like CL did, were finished. This is so obvious thats why it´s just a dumb idea. Knock it off!
$4-$5 packs proved to be success :P
And it would be very smart to stick to wining scheme.
Lol
@@nikolacvijovic6853 😂
Just like your name there fellah...........its SPLINTERLANDS LAST HOPE - is that you yeeeeeehhhhbapmatt
Is this sarcasm? lol