Danny Murphy DEBUNKS Simon Jordan's Claim That Liverpool's Mo Salah Is Overrated & NOT World-Class 🔥
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- talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy debate if Liverpool player Mo Salah is overrated.
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Calling Mo Salah overrated must be the most moronic claim this century, and im a United fan.
Dude is deluded
@@christiananomneze7126 He doesn't believe it, it's his job to say something wacky to bring in the outraged calls and comments.
I agree they just trying to wind up the viewers for more clicks and likes.
I'm LFC, lifelong. He is a very very good, world class finisher on his day and when in form. He is not a great footballer. He gives the ball away far too much when he is in possession, either a bad pass or smashing it into an opposing defenders legs. He's not a great all round footballer, far from it. He jumps out of and backs out of almost every tackle, never puts it all on the line. Don't get me wrong, been great for the club and football in his goal scoring, but IMHO easily replaceable by any other 20-25 goal a season player. No truly world class player is replaceable. 2 amazing seasons in 7 or 8 is not world class.
There is no way has he been at a consistent level that gets into truly world class as a conversation for me. Can't pass or do the basics of football very well at times. Is fully reliant on great players around him, and could never when it's required dig to the depths it takes, as say Stevie G did and could, to drag a poorly performing team or just lower quality team through game after game and stepping up where a trophy is on the line. The season defending the title, where was he and the others doing it? Sorry you huge fans of, I get it, but he's not world class.
Simon Jordan among insiders know that he is extremely Anti Islamic and has a blatant bias against salah. Look at salahs numbers and record
Arsenal fan here. Salah has 156 goals and 69 assists in 256 career EPL matches. Thats insane statistics. Pundits and fans do not appear to realize the reason why players like Salah and De Bruyne generate so many goals. Both players are extremely aggressive and actually take risks in the final third. More and more players, including attacking players, are increasingly fixated on keeping possession and playing safe instead of taking risks to generate goals.
I agree with you 100%, the older heads tho were watching players who would take 3-4 players on and then score, but the point I don't agree with is that In today's game, a player (like salah, saka ect) can probably take people on and score, but it's not what the manager wants and they could be dropped for ignoring instructions
@glp2l yea KDB, Messi etc.. total robots lol
👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
@@VersatileTv2011weren't you watching the goals he scored against City and Watford a few years ago
@@smartpower6963 " a few years ago," being the operative word. He is NOT the same player that he once was.
427 goals and assists in 597 appearances in his career , 298 g/a for lfc in 346 , 3 golden boots , every domestic trophy lifted , missed less than 5 games a season on average in seasons often into the 60+ club apps but this guy still thinks zaha was world class ......
underrated comment
Seriously, anyone who thinks Salah isn't world class then you don't have a clue about football. He's now 31 years old and has maybe dropped off a little and all of a sudden you want to question how good he is, that's insane. What he says or does off the pitch has nothing to do with his footballing ability, I'm not a Liverpool fan by the way.
That's the media for you 😂
Great player but definitely over rated
@@wolvezyif Salah is overrated then Saka is what ?😂😂😂
@@wolvezyHis records says otherwise. Your take is silly and you know that.
@@wolvezyhow's he over rated?
Simon Jordan is just being contrarian. I guess TalkSport do this for clicks. I am not a Liverpool supporter but I know Salah is world-class. This is just clickbaity stuff.
Not world class this season
@@P.Rick316every time he comes back from afcon he flops
@@P.Rick316but still world class
@@P.Rick316world class numbers make him world class
It is debatable he's gone missing in some title chases right at the end of seasons...the peno miss v Leicester etc
I usually agree with Simon but even as a neutral, I can confidently say that Salah is world class.
It’s not even an argument…
Im not for this statement from Simon. I like his views, but this one takes the mick. Being out of form for 2 months doesnt make his 8 year spell mean nothing
3 months
it's not two months thpugh. The numbers don't lie. He hasn't been the same since he got his massive contract.
@@cdeford2since he signed the new contract? He was Liverpool’s top scorer last season and is their top scorer this season. He was nailed on for this years golden boot as well before he went to afcon and then got a 2 month injury
@@XbloopzX We're discussing whether he's a world class player currently, not whether he's a good player, which he clearly is. But he's achieving a lot less than he did before he got his contract and that's undeniable.
He wasn't nailed on for anything half way through a season,it's not hard to be top scorer at Liverpool when you have Andy Carroll 2.0 not being able to hit a barn door@@XbloopzX
If Salah is overated than Harry Kane is overated as well
Facts
I don't know how Simon could keep a straight face talking about Salah diving and not at least think about Kane.
@@Pa-pb6kb English bs that why
YES! Absolutely. Tell me one ONE big game where Kane's performance won the game hands down. Never!
Difference is, Salah actually dragged his teams to trophies.
Is salah had an English passport. These pundits and fans would be calling for balon dor.
“ iF hE wAs EnGLiSh” pure swarthy cope.
100% …. They might call him for z best in z history….
No one has an English passport
Jordan talking shite as usual, When he owned Palace he never had one player fit to lace Salah's boots.
His argument isn't "I had world class players at palace" his argument is "salah is overrated"
Guessing you didn't see Glenn Murray play!
Strawman
What a ridiculous thing to say.
@@utternonsenseproductions2415not a strawman mate, the point being made is that Simon is not the best person to argue who is World Class with Danny
He seems to dislike Salah for off field reasons.
Yep.. see the pattern of his “unbiased” opinions for “off field reasons” from a certain group of people/region
Salah scored over 20 goals in all of his seasons with Liverpool, some seasons he scored 40, If that's not World Class I don't know what is. Big matches ? His performances VS City speak for themselves.
stop lying! what performances???1 never when it counts! And Im a Liverpool fan!
@@davyfernandes3891 He scored 11 goals against City , and I'm pretty sure the two goals he scored against them in UCL quarter final in 2018 count , don't you think?
@@davyfernandes3891who is world class in your opinion
Amen 🍀
If anything kane disappears in the big games
If Salah isn’t considered a world class, then no one is in the entire EPL… silly position from SJ
Rodri
@@marcus8030Salah has been balling out in the premier league longer than Rodri
@@blackkid128 What does balling out mean ?
@@marcus8030 I advise you to get familiarised with some colloquial language in your retirement home
He meant forwards surely...@@marcus8030
The real reason he does not rate Sal is to do with political view differences from Simon. He should be brave and say so.
He kind of did by saying he doesn't agree with Mo having an opinion on Palestine
@@bonzobanzi1137 he did not say I don't rate him as a world class player because his pro-palestine view.
@@tekfes9815 yep
Agreed. He even alluded to it. Couldn't help himself. I mean, what's that got to do with his ability!
Absolutely!!! That is the main reason.. in terms of football salah gets in the all time PL team so by definition makes him world class
This is where all supporters unite and say Simon Jordan you are a berk. And I like Simon mostly
Recency bias and I am not surprised. Forget goals, the guy has the 2nd highest number of assists ever in the Premier League for Liverpool. He creates and scores goals. Don't let a couple of months of poor form obscure your opinion. He is world-class.
Spot on.
Most goals ever in the premier league for Liverpool
This whole conversation isn’t even a debate worth wasting time on. I’m a City fan but I still know Salah is an all time EPL level player. Not just Liverpool, the entire league 😂😂😂
This is blatant disrespect
Simon, most often your opinions are so confusing and it appears as if you have to say things for the sake of it.
Not liking a particular player is understandable but to say that your dislike of him doesn’t make him a world class player is just insane. You’re just contradictory in every way.
It's obviously untrue.The aim is to outrage people so they engage with Talksport's paltforms and it's working.
Salah's contribution to this Liverpool team for 7 years has been nothing short of remarkable and the reason he's world class is he's turned up in big moments several times and delivered 25/30 goals every season in all comps. It's undisputed and for Simon to hate him because he dives 😮
Mo Sarah is obviously not overrated. One bad period doesn’t take away from how incredible he’s been over the last 5-6 plus years. Dumb take from Simon
This is ridiculous. Salah is world class and his numbers doesn’t lie nor as Danny rightly pointed out, he has been one of the players that show up in the big games. TalkSport at its best with clickbait stuff.
It’s crazy how a 2-3 month spell out of form and next minute you’re overrated and not that good. Embarrassing take from Simon
Murphy nailed Simon on this
salah still scored 17 goals this year
He has 37 goals and assists this season in 43 games. Phenomenal return for considering he missed 12 games due to AFCON and injury and hasn’t been at it recently
I wouldn't listen to Simon, he just doesn't like him for non footballing reasons, but has to use disingenuous footballing reasons to justify it.
Short term thinking. A lot of fans do the same.
Salah should leave immediately when the season is over. Right away!!
Tbis Word World Class...it gets thrown everywhere in the English Media like if Salah ain't World Class then who is???
Facts 7 years nonstop goals and assits every season more goals against city and utd and arsenal than anyone else
Messi. Ronaldo. De bruyne. Kane. Haaland. Mbappe. Lewandowski until last year. Neuer.
@@dannytallmage2971 Salah with de bruyne 7 years nonstop
@@dannytallmage2971no biased to been seen here
The real answer, and you know it deep down, is that none of them are world class. All we're looking at in this sport now is the best of a bad situation, simple as that.
If Salah is not world class, then Haaland, Alan Shearer, Michael Owen are/were not world class
And your right
TALKSHIT Literally picked the callers & messages that agreed with Simon 😂
They think we are stupid
Yep they ask them what do they want to say before letting them on. I bet there was many callers that wanted to give it to Simon. Propaganda at its best.
Wow I can’t believe what I’m hearing about Mo Salah the player has been the best player over the last 7 years in the premiership. Like Danny said no player in that time would be able to take his position and the goals and assist numbers are mind blowing but I do understand that he has not quite been at it this season but class is permanent form is temporary. I wonder if any Liverpool fan at the start of the season thought it would be a good idea to sell him for £150 million to Saudi or they thought he was irreplaceable, I know by the noise in the summer he was world class and not for sale then yet now despite scoring 24 goals he no longer deserves the appreciation.
When an opinion is moronic you will get called out, Jordan is embarassing as a pundit.
Actually his opinion is not that crazy. He admitted salah is a very good player. His opinion is he is overrated. Which is possible. I don’t see why ppl act like it’s impossible for a high level player to be overrated.
Just like most. He has his days. He's clearly wrong here. Over his career Salah was world class. This season he has dropped off.
@@foundationofthought7155not sure I agree with you here, at points salah has been world class, most notably his time at Liverpool, but over his whole career he has not been a world class player how for example Eden hazard was, how saka will be, how foden will be, barring any dramatic changes
Salah is world class plain and simple and Simon is wrong here and I think he knows he is wrong .. this opinion of his is a disgrace
@theach84 I believe comments like yours and Jordans are what makes him underrated not overrated. Like Danny Murphy said there is no RW in the epl you would take over him during his time at Liverpool.
He’s been performing well in the best league in the world. Got his country to afcon finals. That alone is world class. He scored important goals en route to cl final win in 2019.
Salah is world class - whereas Simon is a bloviating buffoon.
As an Arsenal fan - agreed 🤝
Imagine thinking, then saying out loud - "Salah isn't world class". Such a bad take
Salah is world class and has been consistent for years, amazing player honestly
Had Salah been called Bob Smith and was from South End the English Media including Simon would be calling him one of the best players in the world...
This is how thick people and pundits are salah started a game on January 1st than the next game he started was the 14th March.
So he missed 2 months of football before the african cup of nations he was flying with goals and assists.
He's not been the same his injury.
People really need to do there research before making stupid pathetic comments about a world class player
Before his injury with AFCON, he was both top scorer and top assists. He's only just returned, trying to get match fit again and people are judging him on his recent form
Even as a United fan I have to admit Simon is wrong on this one. Salah is world class. Even this season. He’s not at his best and his decision making has been poor he’s still scoring bags of goals
This is one of Simon Jordan's stupidest takes in his entire "pundit" career, imagine downgrading a player to just a "very good player" because of the players around him or the system he plays in, absolutely nonsense. I dont hear this sort of nonsense when every player at Spurs funneled there play through Kane to score goals for example, Kane is still a world class player and so is Salah.
Salah is the greatest right winger the premier league has ever seen and I would like to add hes in the top 10 most goals scored in premier league history. Utter tosh from Simon, Salah has and is a world class player. Oh and the people who agreed with Simons take yesterday are categorically opposing tribal fans 100% along with the "Livepool fans" who called in today.
Brilliantly said.
Salah is world class.
Was world class*
He is world class player. NO question about that.
Was*
Dumb take from Simon Salah is world class , this season hes had injuries which have made him perform below his usual high standards.
Jordan is a deluded dude. I don't seem to know what he has against Mo Salah. Saying he's not World class is one of the most deluded statements that I have seen. A Legend of the game is the least he deserves. World class is what he has been for about a decade and consistently. I don't understand what Simon is smoking 🚬
Simon asking if Salah would start for City, he must of lost the plot 😂😂😂
Salah is absolutely world class. Him and kdb are the best players in epl last 5/6 yes. Arsenal fan here
Bang on!
As a Liverpool fan this crazy!!
Salah struggles Liverpool struggles, Salah performs Liverpool is flying high.
Some “Liverpool fans” are so ungrateful don’t deserve Salah. He should leave.
Agreed
Best player I’ve seen in a Liverpool shirt bar gerrard
The man who tried to use salahs poor performance vs Everton where he scored 2 to downplay him is absaloutley embarrassing, I can think of many games where salah gets motm without a goal or assist because of how world class his dribbling, passing; first touch ect was, 2 examples being vs athletico Madrid home 2021 and home 2020. His overall play is literally one of the best the leagues since from he joined in 2017 up untill 2022 he was the complete package, one of the best dribblers, passers, playmakers and goal-scorers all in 1, I can’t believe everyone had forgotten this because of 3-4 months, this is what I call fake fans
The Frank guy!! I don’t think he’s a Liverpool fan.
Probably an Everton fan.
Salah should've had an assist vs Everton. But Nunez couldn't finish.
Simon clickbait Jordan on talkbssport.
Mo Salah as a winger/ forward for club and country.
696 games
343 games
Swiss Super League x 2
Premier League x 1
FA Cup x 1
EFL Cup: x1
FA Community Shield x 1 Champions League x 1
runner-up: x2
UEFA Super Cup x1
FIFA Club World Cup x1
Africa Cup of Nations runner-up: x1
70+ Individual awards from PFA player of the year twice to 4x golden boot winner.
He was def a Everton fan. You can hear the bitterness in his voice
Simon's on field ball knowledge is woeful. Clearly a smart bloke but this is one of many silly comments recently. I'm not sure if it's TalkSports way of drumming up controversy.
Simon has only ever seen truly great players from a great distance, because he’s never had anything like Salah on his books, so it’s understandable why he’s confused, as well as being maybe a little deluded.
United fan. Fascinating to hear someone think Salah as overrated. I have always maintained he's genuinely underrated. Look at his GA over the years. This is in the toughest league in the world. Bonkers numbers year on year.
Eduardo da Silva was accused of diving, and then a criminal tackle broke his leg in two. He was never the same again. English haves strange ideas about justice and what is right.
If Salah is a diver, which he is. What does that make Harry Kane?
Kane…prime Micheal Phelps 😂🤣
Innocent as he is English...
I guess Salah has 2 weaknesses not english and has a pro-Palestine view.
Also a diver
@@whowho2745salah never came out in support of Palestine all he just said was the killing of civilians needed to stop on both sides and that aid needed to get into Gaza he remained neutral
24 goals creating the most chances and its a bad season for him.....of course hes world class
The definition of world class isn’t someone that would get in any side. That’s being the best in the world in your position and it very rare that one player is clearly better than all his competitors. World class just means you’re in the elite group of players in that position which might be top 5-7 depending on the quality at the time.
Imagine if Salah was English. They'd say he's better than Maradona and mother Theresa.
If you have the very basic knowledge of football then to call Salah "overated" is bonkers.
Arsenal fan here. Have to agree with Danny...Mo Salah is undoubtedly a world-class player (don't know what Jordan is on about). Salah, for these past years, has no equal in the Prem...unfortunately, he isn't English...cos if he was he'd have been hailed as an all-time great by people like Jordan. Salah walks into any great team, City and Madrid. Salah belongs in the Hall of Fame.
''I didnt like him speaking about conflicts regarding a specific ethnicity'' WTF DID I JUST HEAR?
You knew who he support
there lay the real reason why he does not rate him high.
thats the real reason for his comments
Can't have people talking about genocidal governments
What team does Salah not get it? Not many.
Liverpool😂😂😂😂
@@wickedmanrick2582😂
From you not an English player you better don't have an bad period....
Simon didn’t provide one reason why he is not a world class player
I’m a united fan, Salah has been clutch for Liverpool. Many important quality goals against City, Us and others
If man U had Salah coming from that right. You be killing it.
Its just mental. Since he arrived in the premier league, nobody has had more goal contributions, nobody.
Kane dives too
Double standards. Some people will call out divers and then turn a blind eye to others.
Liverpool fans always turn on their own in the end, even the legends.
It happened with Gerrard and now its happening with Salah.
Joke of a fanbase
Nobody turned on Gerrard or even Salah
@@michael-zg5fq They turned on Gerrard the exact same way the callers on this video are turning on Salah.
It's what Liverpool fans do.
@@chriser555 you're clueless, you have no idea what you talking about, nobody is turning on Salah, criticism doesn't mean the fans are turning on a player, Even Ronaldo got some from United fans
And no decent Liverpool fan ever wanted Gerrard to leave the club, he still had another 2-3 years left in him
@@michael-zg5fq you must have a very short memory. Liverpool fans only have loyalty to their legends when things are going well. A soon as there's a dip in form and players hits their 30s the knifes are out
Salah has been a class player over the last 5 or 6 seasons, this season hes had injuries which have made him perform below his usual high standards
If he’s not assisting or scoring what else is doing 😂. Well if his numbers are high in both he’s doing a bloody good job, what else do you want him to do? Play in goal?
Diving, at times not pressing and being moody, are all some of the attributes world- class players share. But for all the exceptional things they produce every other times, they're able to get away with things others may not. This clip all be it for bait, may as well reveal Simon's little bias towards certain kind of players and. He thought he found the lowest moment of Sallah's career to take a dig at him. Anybody who knows football and understands the context of the season we're in wouldn't question Mo Sallah's status.
This.
Look at the stats! Salah is one of the best toever play in the PL
Stat man are you😂😂😂😂😂
As a City fan, I can tell you Mo Salah is a terror!
I thought Simon couldn’t get more thick headed than when he talks about City.
I was wrong 🤦🏽♂️
Gooner here - This man is on drugs and deluded or his agenda is more political. How anyone who's watched prem football for last 6/7 years and not consider him world class is RIDICULOUS. Salah deserves the same level of respect as KDB.
How can he insult everything that Mo's done in English football. How is someone not calling up and putting this fool in his place. He's lost whatever credibility he had left with this opinion.
Probably the worst take I've heard on any player in my lifetime. He must have the memory of a goldfish.
The best players give the ball away alot. Because they're always receiving the balls more than others.
Simon’s ball knowledge is full of bitterness
Simon let it sneak out why he really doesn’t like him if you listen closely 😂
exacttly he is spoke up against the genocide of palestinians. and Simon is for it so he hates him now,
This is why no player should trust any football club and it fans can you imagine a Liverpool fan saying salah isn’t world class after all he has than for them
Very true. They're all snide. Ridiculous what I'm hearing.
As they say Class is permanent form is temporary, what does he know about world class footballers anyway
Not even a liverpool fan but I gotto call out this nonsense.
The goal against City at Anfield was perfect. There’s only a handful of players on the planet that could do that.
Peter crouch and andros townsend
playing back then for a Swiss club against Chelsea ?just after Drogba's time he not only scored/assisted but I could see he was a fine player, one of the best in the world.
If Salah was to ever play for Pep @ Man City, he would have to change his game to include a much more defensive mindset
Salah is world class please dont try to tell me otherwise. From a utd fan here
is a player "world class" ? = there is a way to find that question out.
talking about diving being 1 way to judge is rather sad and ill thought out = it doesnt bolster your child like opinions or how you arrive at said opinions.
Is a player world class = what team in the world would of said "nah you okay we dont want him" ? = Not one team in the whole world would of said no.
Danny Murphy completely shut down Jordan's comments with great facts and stats back at him.
"A team set up to bring outcomes from him" - Basically Harry Kane & all of his career but no one will say it about England's captain. For England & his every club, that's the gist of the tactics.
156 goals and 69 assists in 256 league games, but apparently that is overrated...which player has that output ? Salah gets disrespected so much, for no reason and plays as a right winger and has better goals to apps ratio than most strikers. No one use to say to Ronaldo he needs to get back and defend, No one criticized Shearer for not passing short and defending but in this day and age all people care about is running after a ball or link up play....
8:45 Jim desperately trying to back up his mate there with the comment about Salahs age there . ....absolute muppet and by the way does he ever put that tongue away? Honestly , he's absolutely disgusting....
simon is absolutely allowed to have an opinion, the opinion just happens to be of someone who doesn't know much about football.
If Salah is not World Class then there hasn’t been any world class winger in the world the last 5 years, just Simon being a complete moron
As a Livepool fan it is an absolute joy to see Salah score 6-7 seasons consistently in a row, almost the highest goal scoring rate. World class or not, over rated or not, few teams in the history of football can boast of a player like this.
Salah is world class and quite frankly if you don't agree then I'd argue you don't have a grasp on how difficult it is to have that output from RW. The fact only Kane kept pace with him says it all. Stupid conversation overall. Kane falls over for fun but I won't here Simon bring that up when discussing him.
Not unpopular... just stupid. Over 20 goals in EVERY season! ... That's just the goals.... His technic, work rate, behaviour on and off the pitch has been impeccable. Yeah, he's had a wobble last few matches, but to claim he is overrated is bizarre and embarrassing.
Riyad mahrez still more skilled than Salah
Nonsense
Wow a forward doesn't score or assist then they are doing much. Thats what they are paid to do.
Yea over David Silva??🤣🤣 allow that no manager is taking Salah over David Silva
10:50 Of course he's shooting rather than passing these days , you would too if you had Nunez and Diaz next to you
Simon Jordan? Is Salah overrated? This stuff must be rehearsed.
Obviously I'm a Gooner but I do agree with Murphy about him, I genuinely do think that Salah is a World class player. His output and numbers will back up what most of us think about him.
I do agree with Simon where he talked about his recent form and attitude, he's not given the team what they expect from him in terms of output, and the disrespect he showed towards Klopp last weekend was absolutely unacceptable.
Jurgen Klopp is a phenomenal football manager and he's led their club to a lot of success, Salah should give Klopp the respect he deserves and stop behaving like a petulant child.
What did Klopp actually say to Salah that made him react so furiously?
1. It had to be personal (otherwise, Salah who tends to be mild-mannered and in control of his emotions would never have reacted so animatedly)
2. It must be related to something that has been brewing for some time
- A possibility is that Klopp must have felt that Salah (and maybe some others) have not given enough after his announcement that he is leaving and that is why Liverpool are where they are
3. For Salah to use the words 'there will be fire', it has to be something bigger than just him and Klopp
My guess is that all of klopp's frustrations of the way the season is ending came to a boil the moment Salah did not shake his hand and he made a comment that he regretted as soon as he uttered it - what could the comment be?
I would take Salah at Madrid. He has been an incredible player. Based on the current crop of forwards playing today, he's definitely world class.
Also whoever made that comment about Nicolas Jackson would be able to get Salah's numbers if he played for Liverpool is an idiot. Watch Chelsea, they create a plethora of chances. The reason why they are midtable is because they can't score goals and Jackson is their main culprit. I saw a stat that said the only player to miss more big chances than Jackson was Nunes. Jackson is awful as a ST.
His Goals, Assists speak for themselves, his goals against City and United tell u all u need to know
2 months out of sort over 7-8 years ??? Jesus
So so shameful how 7 years can be undermined because of 2 months. Put Harry infront of his name and see how he will be hailed day in out
Simon Jordan's football Knowledge and understanding doesn't stretch outside the boardroom...He doesn't know what a World class player looks like