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- STOP BABYING ZACH WILSON ‼️ - Dan Orlovsky wants the Jets to FIGURE IT OUT 🗣️ | Get Up
The Get Up crew talks about the many struggles that Zach Wilson and the New York Jets are facing.
0:00 Dan Orlovsky's thoughts on Zach Wilson
5:10 How Wilson has handled being in New York
7:49 Can Wilson ever be a great QB?
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I wish I was a QB in the NFL because I know there's at least one person that will always have my back, Dan Orlovsky.
Man listen!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah fr 😂
No fr. Mid recognize mid though
@@MultiKushie”mid recognize mid” you stupid 🤦🏾♂️😂💯
Don't forget about Chris Sims
Dan is right about one thing. Zach is playing "scared to make a mistake" football. Whether thats coaching or Zach, it needs to stop and let him wing it. It is the same way Josh Allen had 3 ints against the Jets in week 1. Sometimes you make a good decision and the defense just beats you. So be it. Cant be playing safe. Gotta play to win!
Sure can't be any worse 🤣
The only difference is that the Bills fanbase is not booing QBs.
He trash af
@@jerrymartinez8337 Bills fans don't boo Allen because he's proven to be a good QB. Zach hasn't done anything of value and was benched TWICE last year, so it makes it that much worse when he plays bad. Doesn't help that not a single Jets fan wanted to see him play this season.
@@jerrymartinez8337After a 17 playoff drought, dude has won the east 3 years straight and has some classic playoff performances along with 4 wins. We’ll never boo him lol
Dan having a soft spot for underperforming qb's will always be good to see. Everyone is so harsh but he knows what it's like to be in that position and what the player needs to hear.
He's worse than underpeforming he's just bad. There's nothing wrong with admitting it.
He identifies with them. And using "underperforming" as a euphemism for "awful" is hilarious.
He's trash like God awful Zach Wilson sucks
Zach Wilson is trash... he deserves the criticism...
Yeah exactly
"Listen to me closely"
*Girl took that literally.* 🤣
yeah and if a man did that he would get the me too treatment
It was hilarious
Lol she needed to hear the bs
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not even week 4 and this panel has officially done 95 segments on Zach Wilson. Well done ESPN
Greenberg has control of the topics and he's a massive Jets fan. I agree, but it's not surprising
It would’ve been the same if 8 were healthy and playing lol
Y3a because he trash
It gets clicks every sports show has talked about it
This is actually a hot topic on sports right now so what else is they supposed to talk about. Can’t talk about Miami’s speed and 70 points for so long
I agree with Dan 1,000,000%. The Jets are at the point now where they have to decide if this kid is even worth keeping. Tell him go out there and play football and have fun doing it. If he throws a pick, so be it. Tell him to "come back with your shield or come back on it" to quote Queen Gorgo in 300. He's stankin up the field anyway so he can't play any worse. Let him pick out 10 or 15 plays that he's comfortable with and tell him to go make something happen. if he fails, then it's time to part ways with him.
That decision has already been made. The Jets' front office was hoping to hide Wilson behind Aaron Rodgers while driving the narrative of how much Zach was progressing with Rodgers' mentoring (that narrative was in full view during the offseason.) We see now how much progress he made: none. Their plan was to use that narrative to get some trade value for him so they could ship him. In other words, it was a con, hoping that some fool of a GM somewhere would fall for it.
yawn
cap
"Throw it to the guy we tell you to and if it's a pick it's on us." Hahaha the definition of babying him!
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh and Joe Namath btw.... here are his second season stats 49% completion , 17 TDs and 29 INTs.
Namath had one really good season, a few ok ones, and sucked the rest of the way. People say “they three more interceptions back then”. Look at any other great back in that era, none of them threw 60 more INTs for their career. He is extremely overrated
I believe the babying aspect of this is continuing to Give Zach excuses for being bad before Rogers ever showed up
Rather him go down swinging bad or not then just looking
This is funny, because if you let Zach throw it he sure will throw 3 ints and lose the game, GUARANTEED
It’s not an excuse that because they treat him too fragile and as though he’s bad; so he turns out bad as largely a byproduct of his usage. The impatient and frustrated fans destroy ZW alone; to me, that’s the dumb take; but the smart observer of football sees it as Orlovsky does.
@@Powernab that’s not guaranteed. The reason he’s throwing pick is they putting his talents in a box then asking him to throw it with everybody in coverage. He can’t get into rhythm. Even he throws 2 str8 picks ,keep playing he’s sporadic in good ways and bad ways.
The way they playing now is hand cuffing which guarantees losing 2 millions percent
@@TheHighlanderprime WELL SAID!!!
Zach Wilson has talent but the problem is he doesn't make reads fast enough. He locks on to one receiver and if that's not there he leaves the pocket which causes him to take a sack or make a terrible throw which leads to turnovers.
That’s coaching…. I’m not going to stick up for the kid and say he’d be the next Namath if not for coaching but that’s ultimately what the coaches are there to do. If they can’t develop a QB then they shouldn’t be on the payroll.
@@Civera89 I agree
Facts. And he's scared to be in the pocket, he's terrified of the defensive pressure, you can tell by his body movements on the field.
He doesn't get to make reads lol. His coaches are telling him who to throw to each play. They handcuffed him.
@@yolly4853wonder why, worst O line in the league and they just ended his HOF mentors season.
I still kinda find it annoying when people who never coached or played in the NFL start chiming in over those who have
Facts
Orlovsky is probably the only reason why I still watch espn that guy knows football
Dan the man on this one, great points about Zachs mindset and possible solutions... definitely changed the way i view zach wilson.. i hope they can figure it out!
I agree. When he was actually good at BYU he freelanced like a Favre. He does have an arm and improv ability. He just struggles badly running a traditional offense and going read-to-read. He's not wired that way. Get him on the move and push the ball vertically.
His last season at BYU, the Cougars played an awful schedule. His offensive line and Allgeier were dominant all season long, which made him look much better than he was. I was never fooled by any of that, and it was clear that Trevor Lawrence was in another stratosphere compared to Wilson. The Coastal Carolina game should have been enough of a warning sign for the Jets.
Favre won 3 straight mvp's and went to 2 super bowls and even his freelancing got him in trouble. Zach wilson can not freelance that well he makes poor decisions and puts the ball in danger too often. This isnt college its the pros. He cant get it done because if he could there would be no need for aaron rodgers or they would be just fine without him. The jets know he stinks they just thought rodgers pixie dust was gonna fall on wilson and all of a sudden he's modern day fran tarkenton. He's not.
@@universe-ie2mk I'm not arguing he's remotely close to Favre as a player. Trust me man lol. I'm just talking about playing style. He'll make mistakes and turn the ball over often, but you'll get the occasional splash play. That's better than what he's currently doing. Not taking chances and can't execute the basics. He does have a strong arm. That's what led to him being drafted that high
@@RobbieStacks90 Not arguing that at all. He fooled the scouts because it was basically 7-on-7 and he was just slinging the ball around with zero pass rush. I hear ya man. I'm just talking in terms of running the offense and playing style. You gotta get him on the move and let him improv. You will get the occasional splash play because he does a strong arm. You gotta live with the mistakes though. At the moment he can't execute the basics and he's not taking chances, so there's zero benefit and potential upside
@@brooksorlando4881 Yeah, I agree completely with that. If Jets modify the offensive game plan like you suggested to take advantage of what strengths he does possess, he can at least be serviceable. They really don't want to have to bench him for Siemian, but that's what'll happen if the Jets aren't at least competitive going forward.
Dan brought up a good point. The game plan for Zach from the Jets hasn’t been working. They’re getting desperate. They should let loose and see what works. He throws 7 interceptions? Well guess what? He would’ve already thrown 7. Lost the game? You already counted yourselves as out.
Hope the team gets to review what Zach does well/decently and builds upon it rather than continue to expose what he’s horrible at.
And you can tell, given the Jets giving up. They were all in on Rodgers like there no tomorrow, That's why I feel sorry for Zack Wilson. I feel sorry for the Jets, their fans and Rodgers as well but Wilson's point of view. He was set up failure, no matter how bad he is at playing football, the coach and his teammates don't wanna take a chance and try to regroup after Aaron went down. The university has been a mess for the New York Jets!
I agree. When he was actually good at BYU they let him freelance and play hero ball. It's not the smartest method of success, but it's what he's good at. He does an arm and mobility. He just can't sit in the pocket and go read-to-read. He can't mentally process a defense fast enough. First sign of a pass rush, his eyes lock onto the defender and he bails. They gotta wise up and let him play his style. He'll make mistakes, but you'll occasionally get some big plays
Here's the issue with Dan's point. You got three years worth of data that tells you he ain't it. Robert Saleh said, he ain't it last year. His teammates have said he ain't it. So they might not be putting him in successful situations but he has shown a multitude of times he can't do it and they didn't trust him last year before Rodgers. It's a wrap in my eyes
They've already seen that. That's why they're not doing it now.
To say he just sucked from the beginning to now does not tell the whole story. In his first season, after he came back from injury, he looked pretty good even in losing efforts. I think there were games against the Eagles or Texans that he performed well. At the end of the season, he was trending up. The 2nd season he got hurt in the first preseason game and didn't return until game 4 of the regular season. He had an okay game against the Steelers by rallying them to victory. But that was the beginning of the end. The media stories of the team winning in spite of him and the criticisms of his turnovers proved too great for his psyche. I think it's too late for him now as he looks broken. Inside I think he has a self-confidence issue. He would probably have turned out much better if he had some of Joe Burrow's moxie to turn off the noise and just focus on your craft.
Kimberley and Marcus lol
Orlavsky looking like a genius right now
Thank you Dan!!! I apprciaite you standing up for zach wilson. i agree with you man, he def does not suck. this kid has work ethic and is working to get better, has a great arm. once our protection improves whenever it does, zach wilson true talent is gonna shock the world.
Only the entire defensive side of every NFL team disagrees with you LOL.
@@charlesfaure1189Because they o line sucks …If the O line was at least top 15 you sing a different tune .
Good takes from everyone, greeny cooked with that golf analogy 🔥🔥
Interesting to see how Dan is giving Wilson is getting all these chances but Trey Lance was only given 3.5 games and he’s seen enough lol
😆😂🤣 Trey Lance is on the same train as Zach Wilson but far worse than Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell.
Trevor Lawrence has played all 37 games over the two seasons and into the 3rd. Sam Darnold was given 3 full seasons; ZW has only played 25 games; it’s way too early to quit on him specially since he’s been mis-developed. Jets fans will regret this if he goes elsewhere and is developed properly towards success. Trey Lance couldn’t stay on the field; and he was with a competent coaching staff that have the credentials to make that decision.
@@TheHighlanderprimeI partially agree. I think Wilson would be better, but he's never gonna be a great NFL QB. If you're playing this poorly, you're not gonna turn elite on a different team. They gotta just let him freelance and play hero ball though. That's what he's actually good at. He'll make mistakes, but you'll get big plays too. Jets are putting him in a box and playing him like a traditional drop back QB. It's incompetent. Play to the players strengths. I do agree about Lance. Shanahan is as good as it gets and he realized he wasn't good enough. He saw him in practice daily. He knows what he's doing. Lance has bad throwing mechanics and accuracy. He's just a raw athlete who couldn't get nuances of the position down. Zach flashes talent..he's just mentally flustered.
Bro he's black
Availability is the best ability.
They can beat KC? As a Jets fan, I want to know what Orlovsky is smoking. It must be good stuff.
KC is offence haven’t been playing good don’t but fool with they win over the bears
Preach it Greeny 🙌🏽
That was hilarious by Kimberly 😂😂
I nearly died of laughter when Dan said the jets can beat the chiefs lol
With a half way decent qb, I’m confident that they could. Their defense is legit. Zach Wilson is just bad.
Last weekend Arizona beat Dallas. Anything possible that’s why the games are played on turf not on paper.
Any giving Sunday
The lions did
I haven’t seen the Chiefs do anything special this year. As bad as the Jets are, they’ve got a punchers chance
This is the realest thing that has been said l.
Media really calling a coach believing in their team "Lying" 😭 Hilarious i suppose the Jets should call each other out every press confress
Why are Marcus and Kim sitting so close to eachother 😂😂😂
Like is they fckin or some lol
Good take Dan. 110% right.
Completely agree with dan zach is literally talented asf and yes you can visibly see he just trying not to throw a pick every play his mentality just off they got nothing to lose might as well bet on him
I’m not a Jet fan, but when Zach didn’t take accountability to the loss of the Patriots last year. That was it for me
Yep me too. (as a Jets fan)
Facts 💯 me too. He lost the locker room and fans
He's a kid, most of us say stupid things when we're young. You apologize and learn from it, that's what he did.
For fuck's sake, he apologized and learned from it. Saying ONE stupid thing shouldn't define a person.
And that’s why you sitting at home and not running an Organization or coaching
Dan said everything I been saying about the jets. They claim to believe in Zachary but the gamelan does not support that.
Gotta do anything it takes to win!
Best answer!
ESPN: "Jets, STOP babying Zach Wilson"
ESPN: Point and laugh at Manziel, Baker, Darnold, Rosen, Wilson, etc etc
Also ESPN: "Bears.... shame on you for NOT babying Justin Fields more than you already have"
Also ESPN: "49ers how dare you get rid of a bust and not continue to baby him despite clearly finding a better Quarterback"
Also ESPN: "Lamar Jackson needs MORE weapons and More offensive lineman. Can the Ravens be allowed to have 10 Lineman and 8 WRs on the field at the same time? Please NFL?"
The agenda is getting tiresome
Praising him for completing 2-3 good passes the entire game is what I would call “babying”
I'm going to have to agree with Dan. The scared approach isn't working at all, and it's obvious Zach isn't a game manager. This kid either needs to throw it around or just trade him and get it over with. Who knows, something great may happen. It can't get any worse, right? I mean, a loss is a loss whether it's by 40 or 1, so I say take the training wheels off and let it fly. Especially this week in a game we probably weren't going to win anyway, even with ARod. Let the kid air it out.
Bust
@@matthewcooper412 Such a thoughtful, well worded reply.
The first 3 seconds lol!
Dan snapped
Dan nailed it!! 🙂
I thought that was Marcus wife cuz she was super close
Preach Dan. I been saying this for 3 weeks. Coach scared and your gonna continue losing
the problem with what dan says at 2:04 is that they already scheme players open - WIDE open. he just doesn't see them or chooses not to throw to them.
Orlovsky makes a great point and that's the same thing Justin Fields is going through with that horrible coaching staff that he has
I love that attitude. Take the training wheels off and let fly.
I’m agree no cap man just need to let it loose
I hope other QBs get this level of understanding
Yes, both Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields have actually. You simply weren’t listening to what DO explained.
@@TheHighlanderprime ok
Amen
Dan is speaking from experience
Finally real from Dan on Zach
Only thing is...
Zach is as good as he's ever gonna be
To my understanding, the Johnsons are close to Zach Wilson's family. Could that be a factor? Saleh's post-game press conference looked like a hostage video.
🤔 ahhhhh
Maybe, but these are business people. I highly doubt they'd be that sentimental.
I’m rooting for the dude. This man been getting done dirty by this team.
It's the NFL and the owners value those generational relationships. Rich peoples way of thinking. They should have kept Mike White and let Zach go.@@travisbickle5829
Lol 😂”hostage video”
Is Orlovsky suffering from amnesia? We all know it is humanly impossible for Zach Wilson to play a good football game. How can they still be debating this? 😭
This man is crazy. I have never seen a qb for down for sack without being touch
How is it impossible history has shown that humanly things are not truly impossible. Ppl said that geno would never be a starting qb after his time in NY but look at him. Ppl gave up Vinnie tastervarde after two or three years in nfl look what happen as long as a someone has the will and the mindset to achieve their goals they can
@matthewcooper412 what're you saying?
@@Indy_Bendy as long as someone has the will to succeed they can that what I'm saying
@@Dcb897 so if I believed I could outrun usain bolt I could then? Also I wasn't asking you...
The guy who said fields would play at an mvp level lol Wilson is just aiight at best lol
Lmmmaooooooo he said listen closely 😂😂
oh she listnin
dan was on point
You tell DAN😊
I love how Dan O talks like he was a good Quarterback 😂
😆😂🤣 DAN tries to be Zach Wilson quarterback coach. Call Joe Douglas to FIRE Nathaniel Hackett and be the Jets OC, Dan. How about his lover boy wonder CARSON WENTZ to replace Zach Wilson as the starter?
He doesn’t have to have been a great QB to be a great analyst. That’s a trollish a**hole comment.
@@HotRocket-jc1qh Everyone knows that. 😆😂🤣 It's the same year when he's trying to throw a pass by running in the endzone. Dan Orlovsky, do us a favor would you? Replace Nathaniel Hackett already.
On one hand, I agree with the old adage "The tale is in the tape". Maybe we have enough to know that Zach Wilson is what he is. But on the other hand, I reluctantly agree with Dan. They have absolutely nothing left to lose in just taking the handcuffs off and see what happens.
Wow he's exactly right Dan throw the ball stop playing safe throw the ball
The Jets might be in position to draft Drake Maye. Maybe that'll make up for missing out on Trevor Lawrence but probably not
Drafting Mekhi Becton instead of Tristan Wirfs, when everybody wanted Wirfs, Zach Wilson instead of DeVonta Smith, Denzel Mims, Elijah Moore... How do these people still have jobs?
Garrett Wilson is one of the few things the Jets' front office has done right within the past five or so years, and that was just an obvious pick.
Sauce, Quinnen and John Franklin Meyers are great picks. they jus can’t draft offensive players well lol other than Breece and Garrett
AVT was also a good offensive pick.
@@CR-ow2wp i wanted to say him but i wasn’t entirely sure cause apparently the offensive line is terrible but i don’t actually know who’s at fault for that lol
The OL was fine on Sunday with this new group. Zach had plenty of time to make plays. Becton, AVT and Tippmann all look like long term pieces.
New year but same story: Jets with a decent QB are 2-1, and easily a playoff team. Looking at any position over QB as a reason why the team sucks is downplaying just how bad Zach has been.
Trevor would have been ruined here as well. This is a graveyard for young drafted QBs. The track record doesn’t lie.
Being a Packers fan, I love this.
I love keeping our first round pick too 🤷🏻♂️
@@Njbear7453 we don't want your first rounder, we want your second rounder so we can get a receiver.
Throw the ball around!
Lol 😂 it’s not babying him. HE CANT READ NFL DEFENSES that’s the issue. He is not an NFL QB period the kid don’t belong in the league.
They should’ve went with J. Fields 🤷🏾♂️
@@ReelCoast79 you know what yes you know why he has chemistry with Garret Wilson and he can read NFL defenses. Zach doesn’t belong in the league he doesn’t know how to read NFL defenses. That’s his issue there is nothing the coaches can do. This is on the GM.
@@ReelCoast79 So the same player except more athletic?
@@unc54 yep, I feel he would’ve done better with the Jets than the Bears
@@unc54 I say this if the Jets drafted Mac Jones they would be a playoff team you know why? HE CAN READ NFL DEFENSES.
I will leave you with this level of competition matters, and the ability to read defenses. Not arm talent let the Jets be a lesson for all GM’s in the league.
Meanwhile, they’re making excuses for a 5-23 QB because he’s black. Keep this same energy with JUSTIN FIELDS!!!!
Danny my boy
You have never been so WRONG.. He is a. BUST😂..🤟
And Orlovsky knows way more football than m*ron fans like yourself who have no patience towards grooming a young QB.
Bust doesn't even begin to describe him AND that franchise
Lol, and Danny Dimes isn't?
I dont know how much is on wilson or the coaching but i do absolutely agree with one point. Play like you got nothing to lose, Wilson. They will replace you for that Broncos game; so might as well go down swinging. No matter how ugly.
Marcus and Dan THANK YOU!! If I'm told I suck at my job everyday by everyone, you know what, I would, and I'd be afraid to do anything!!!
Finally Dan is right 😂
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😔👍🏽
i wouldnt be suprised if the NFL flexed that game out to a different time
Zack Wilson needs to take 💯 of the blame when things go wrong and say “I need to do better” not “we” If Zack plays well and the Jets win then and only then you can say “we”
Saleh is a defensive head coach. If they don't have a good QB, all they want to do is run the football and have the QB be a game manager. That is all good until your down 21 points.
Justin Fields would’ve been a better fit for the Jets imo
EVERYTHING Dan says about Wilson you could say about Fields
And Justin looks like he wish he anywhere but with the Chicago Bears. We talk about the Jets for not getting back up since Rodgers gone, but the Jets build a good team. Imagine Justin Fields filling in for No.8 and plays for New York.
How can you hate on Wilson and not Fields? Bears have a better offense than the Jets and Fields looks even worse than Wilson.
I doubt it! Fields have some of the same issues as Wilson. Rookie head defensive HC and rookie OC isn’t the way to groom young and raw QBs.
@slimvickins5059 I seen the Bears play at time, the gameplan and stuff especially for Justin Fields is terrible. But I agree that Fields should get more blame because he's not that good, even though Justin better off somewhere else.
I don't think Dan realizes how dominant KCs defense has been when he suggests to let Zach loose next game
Especially with Chris Jones back, The Jets are done.
Can't play scared football. I would start the game with a flea flicker. They haven't tried 1 gadget play or jet sweep entire season. Run, run, pass punt. 37-10 chiefs. Horrible play calling.
The defense doesnt ever give the offense a short field so its not a great defense, offense has to go the distance every time they touch the ball
He was right
Wildcat!
Real talk, this is a good conversation. Zach really needed that year to sit. This is why rookie qbs should sit. Even though one or two go well not sitting it typically, helps to sit to get the fundamentals down. Look at J. Love.
he's right
the problem with most from offices is they dont know how develope Qbs.
Kimberly getting a lil snug next to the 🐻 😂
Chris Jones is gonna be looking at Zach Wilson like he's a snack 😂
DAN IS DELIRIOUS TAKE A SEAT AND SEVERAL BREATHS AND CALM DOWN
Maybe the Jets need to try to break the offense down an simplify it.
Bring in Zach Wilson and talk it over about football plays that Work for him. You got to run the ball effectively on Second down, throw short an medium throws, take a few long shots. The team has to Reduce sacks an penalties. Put up an effective defense, and have a complementary special teams. I want to blame Zach, I do but I also think the staff is not breaking it down barney style enough for Zach to be Zach and do what needs done.
Agree! I haven't seen the coaching staff put this kid in opportunities to succeed since he entered the league.
Oh really stop it
He's a bust
@matthewcooper412 with all due respect they said the same thing bout geno Smith remember his years with the jets ppl called him a bust but look at him now. If you got the mindset and the will ppl can achieve what they set their minds too.
@@Dcb897
To be fair Geno is a rarity, not the norm there are far more busts in the league than there are comebacks
@@jamalwalker yea that is true but till it can happen but I agree with you
The problem is that nowadays every qb in the top picks can’t be bust I guess
Unfortunately for Zach this Jets defense ain't keeping the chiefs to 15points.
Facts
Even if they did we would still lose cause they can't even score 11 points. 1td and fg is all they can get.
Listen to me closely (glides in)
Totally agree with Dan on this. Stop the handcuffing of Zach. Set him free and let him air it out. More RPO`s etc..........
The curse of the Jets has returned. Such a shame! I like Zach. However, in year three he has to get the job done. Watching him play, he has all the physical skills to succeed. He has to get his mind to make better decisions.
I want to see a game plan purposefully designed to test Wilson’s heart (or at least his ability to absorb blunt force trauma). He obviously can’t pass so establish the threat of the qb run early by making Zach offer his body and long term health as a sacrifice to the football gods. He either proves himself to his teammates as someone worth following or he suffers a season ending injury. Either way jets fans win.
You had two previous seasons to see exactly that, and his team was in near-mutiny mode.
@@charlesfaure1189 Now I want to see qb runs until Zach Wilson breaks or his team believes in him
I hope they switch QBs so they can see how much of a genius Hackett is.
I love Dan's take
If Zach Wilson was black y’all would be treating him the same way y’all have treated Justin fields. Just imagine the outrage if they were calling 5-23 white QB future MVP lol
Bruh this Man Talking about babying, but he babys Josh Allen every second he can
"They can beat Kansas City" 😂😂😂😂
Said that after the 2 minute drive vs Dallas. Let him sling it. Let him scramble. Free Zach n let him just play ball
Previous seasons have already shown what Zach Wilson is like when you "let him be Zach." there's a reason why they're not doing it now.
Lafleur play calling was so head scratching
The O-line is certainly not babying Zach. What QB would want to play behind that O-Line. Aaron Rogers found out how bad they are really fast.
Dan O. This applies to all weak armed “game manager quarterbacks”. I can name 100 of them who I’ve seen in the league.