Considering the amount of lube I had to use just to not feel any pain from copyright's big one for this video, the thought of doing it for games like that is scary to me.
Project 8 has gotta be one of my favorite Tony Hawk games. Have a lot of fond memories of the 360 version. I really like the idea of gradually moving up what is essentially a large leaderboard.
To be quite honest, with your editing skills and the way you always start out these hawktober episodes, I was expecting you to be that alien baby thing in the beginning hahaha! 👽
@@SquareEyedJak I love nothing but pure destruction and Tony hawk games The one If I can't trick off or something I destroy it and then get a bigger score hell you get a destruction bonus for a thousand points in thug2
You're my Fave TH-camr ever dude. Love for you is unreal. You keep it real. You're funny and honest. and Brough a whole new Liking back To Tony Hawk games for me
great work man cant wait to see the last video tomorrow you were much more committed to this then me trying to do prompt based drawings everyday for a month
This game was one of my favorites from my childhood, but seeing you destroy its gameplay and the game case itself was hilarious! And the recreation of the intro was just perfect! 👍🏻
I played and they do happen but not much. What I think is that since the PS3 is easier to swap the hard drive and mine is newer, it is struggling less to load the world, this game tries to do like GTA which loads the world around you into chunks. Since the PS3 has a mandatory install it is not trying to do this on the disc and it could be improved on 360 by installing (before running any game, press Y so it appears the option to install to improve load times) but to replace the hard drive with a new one instead of the proprietary formatted one which can be slower is kinda annoying. On some PS3 consoles I played I noticed some games loadings slightly worse than mine because they still used the hard drive it came around when it was made
I loved Project 8 on PS3 and put hundreds of hours into it. Despite the technical flaws, I really enjoyed the large amount of content and challenge, as someone who could pull off big combos and 100% complete THPS4, THUG, and THUG2 with ease.
And I am on Day 3, Monsieur Jak! First off, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into customizing the intros and title screens tailored to each game and making fun of it. It shows consistency and that your editing skills have excelled over the years. You must’ve been working on these videos for close to a year if you did it all the way through THP5. All right, this is going to be a LONG ONE, so get some popcorn! And take your time. You singing a Kasabian cover is fucking hilarious! I love it. I don’t think this was on purpose, but the intro to that song makes me feel like what THP8 did to my mind: “One, take control of me?” (Game controls you since the controls are whack) “You're messing with the enemy” (Neversoft is messing with their fans making enemies) “Said its 2, it's another trick” (Is this game a bluff, or did you seriously release this shit?) “Messin with my mind, I wake up” (Hopefully this travesty is all a dream!) “Chase down an empty street” (I’m skating down the street looking for content in an unfinished game WTF!!) THE CREATE A SKATER OPTIONS WERE AWFUL!!! I completely agree with you on this one. I played both versions, 3 body types to 5 body types just doesn’t cut it. They should’ve just shoved all the customization options from all the previous games onto this one, considering it was on a Bluray disc. And why have body types? Just make your skater the way you want from scratch and mix match looks. The only cool thing about it was you were able to skate as a kid this time without the Kid Mode cheat, but that doesn’t justify taking away the option of… making a skater look like you. They even took out the facial dimension options which really came in handy for those of us that didn’t own an EyeToy or PS Eye. I didn’t really use the create a park option much games after THPS2 since it seemed like an overwhelming chore, but, I know a lot of people enjoyed that..or creating a deck/paint graphic/goals..This was such a disappointment. I could make a more accurate looking skater in THPS2 which is out right pathetic. I didn’t even realize this was a true open world game because they never advertised it as such, but you’re absolutely right, this format is what we were expecting THAW to be. The menu looked a little lackluster with the clouds and simple text. The clouds were sort of cool since it gave that ‘fresh air’ feel or going as high as you can in the ranks and up a ramp. But, it just didn’t have that edgy feel that I’m used to for the series. It was like they made the menu screen in Power Point and just left it at that and you could tell they took a lot out of this game compared to previous titles. As for the game play, HOLY FUCK. They took all the amazing moves out of this game that made the three previous titles so much fun. They kept the bert slide, but you couldn’t do the spin extensions no graffiti, no wall flips, no regular flips, no sticker slaps and a glitchy ass wall run. I understand maybe if they were going for a more ‘realistic’ approach to skating and peeled back all the crazy impossible moves, I can see if they didn’t want to rehash the old format and wanted to try a new approach, but none of it was utilized properly, the game just wasn’t fun. I felt there were no instances where getting off my board and climbing/hanging was useful in navigating levels. Anytime I tried to wallrun my character just seemed to repel himself from the wall and not get any height. It was too much work to even try, and some rails and ledges in the levels weren’t even grabable. My character would just ‘shake glitch’ and disconnect with some of the rails/ledges he came in contact with. That seemed to be a popular thing that happened with early PS3/X360 titles. Every rail and ledge in THAW was grabable within level boundaries, that was cool. These advanced graphics seemed to have sloppy contact points, hard to explain, but it probably ties in with the bails: I’m glad you hated the bails as much as I did! All 7 previous titles had a great way to bail, gravity was taken into account, the skater fell and bled, and was back up on his feet ready to skate. Don’t change it if it ain’t broke. I don’t know why they couldn’t keep this for this title, and tapping X to get up quickly worked out. Now if you bail, your character just turns into a lifeless corpse and starts having a seizure on the ground for 10 seconds until you ‘reset’ your skater, or as you showed us, a vert bail will just launch you into the air for a long ass time and waste valuable play time. Why do this? If they were trying to make this more realistic from previous titles, the last thing you do is make the falls look fake and glitchy. I’m guessing maybe this was the only way the “broken bones goals” could work, but I found those stupid and unfun as well. The goals did not seem cohesive in this game, I was almost never lined up properly with where I was supposed to go at the start of a goal or I ended up overshooting my distance even with low stats. Everything seemed off kilter and combo strings were very hard to do. Speaking of stats, I have a love-hate relationship with how they decided to it for this game. They really dragged out the way you earn stats. I was used to rushing through previous titles and getting my stats up quickly, but this game made you grind for an extremely long time before you could gain stat points for grinding. It sort of pissed me off since it took forever, but at the same time was a cool idea to make it more challenging. Another thing they did was, for instance, if you had to perform a task and land a combo with let’s say a minimum of 50,000 points, In previous titles I would start a combo far away from the goal with grinds or flatland tricks and by the time I performed the goal I would’ve scored 75,000-150,000 points. But this game made you restart the goal if you exited the immediate play area. Forcing you to do the combo in close proximity to the goal so expert spam players like myself couldn’t cut corners and take the easy way out. The level designs in this game didn’t impress me too much. The levels had no geographical locations (which is something I always appreciated). I mean, at a glance the bright colors and presentation looked nice, but the designs combined with the shotty controls and falls made this really hard to play and navigate smoothly. I understand the disparity you had with this game trying to focus more on rising to the top of competitions the traditional way (with the help of My Name Is Earl) while also incorporating these zany characters like the real estate agent and The Shining twins that would fit well into the UG games. They could’ve gone for a zany surreal approach starting in the suburbs almost like the world of Edward Scissorhands or The Truman Show, and could’ve been a really fun fictional world but they half assed that, and quarter assed the game as a whole. Because the skateboard physics and tricks looked different and stats took forever to earn, I found myself really working my butt off to gain the minimum points on the skate competitions. It was a bit of a learning curve, but I did get the rhythm down where I basically had to string together my vert tricks with manuals the whole time to reach a winnable score. And the only reward after beating the game was just ‘Hey! Youre in the top 8..whoo!” It almost had the same idea that UG1 had, but the story was uninteresting, the stakes were lower and I felt restricted the whole time playing it. I was able to kind of muster through the game being the veteran that I was, but doesn’t seem too friendly to new players of the franchise. One thing I really appreciated about this game was the Nail a Trick mode and the different look of the balance meter. It took a while to get used to the timing of the flips and when to land, but just seeing the board flip in slow motion and the wheels of your skateboard spinning in HD was very cool. Unfortunately, this minor victory does not make up for how fucked up everything else in this game was. Maybe they needed an extra year to work out the kinks of a new generation system’s power and rushed this one out, but considering later releases of this franchise not being so good, I’m not so sure more time could’ve saved this game. As for the numbers, we have not seen eye to eye on the numbers scale thus far. It depends if we’re just using our judgment based on comparing games within one franchise or the quality of a game overall, as well as if we decide to use increments of ‘1’ or ‘0.5’ (I watch Angry Joe from time to time). And numbers are a one dimensional observation over something that has so many qualitative and creative elements. I was totally okay with giving this game on either platform a 3-5/10. But in no universe would I ever rate this game higher than American Wasteland. I beat this game once out of sheer curiosity just to say I played it (the same reason why some of us choose to watch bad movies), and then I never picked it up again; no replay value for me. It just felt like more of a chore to play than actual fun, and I was wondering if the Neversoft team just completely lost their marbles, and forgot what made this franchise successful. Like they spent every minute of their time developing it while drunk and were going to miss their deadline, so they released an unfinished game and didn’t care if they got to keep their jobs for the next release.. or Tony let his divorces get to his head and was forcing them to make a shitty game so he had somewhere to channel his anger :'D I should maybe consider doing my own web page, but, I don’t want to re-invent the wheel you built. Keep it up! Your ally and fellow critic ~Anton
Well then... On your point about the stats, something I failed to mention that really shit me was that no matter how much you build them up, you never get faster. Rolling along is slow for the entire game. But honestly, I was able to do really strong combos in this game from all corners of the map to the other side which is seriously fun. Much more enjoyable here than in American Wasteland with those fucking hallways. But as I said, the frame drops and messy bail physics would normally fuck me up before I could land. And as for the scoring thing, I said for THAW that I wasn't expecting to go that low. I had an idea that I was going for a 5/10 but after replaying it for the first time in forever and for the first time, looking at it for review. It really stood out to me as mediocre. So for Project 8, giving it a score higher than American Wasteland for the true version at least was not something I thought was going to happen. But hey, that's how it goes I guess. Didn't even know the 360 existed until about 10 weeks ago when I started doing research for this special. Also if you've got things to say, you should start a channel or blog or whatever, if it's something you'd be interested in. Already you have a lot to say about stuff so fucking do it dude! :D
Yeah once I got the hang of the controls I was able to do combos, and I agree that they connected the levels way better than THAW, just each level design didn't impress me, and the glitches made it tough. Oh wow, you didn't know the 360/PS3 one existed all this time? My friend bought the PS2 version when it first came out (I was about 16 at the time, a few years older than you), and then I bought the PS3 version in 2010 and beat it. I thought you'd figure it had a 6th gen release if you knew about the 360 version of THAW. But yes, I had very strong feelings about this game, and it was the last installment I played through entirely. You're right I should start something. As you know, making videos just costs time, money, a decent computer, and editing skills to make it presentable. I've wanted to review certain movies for a while too. But I appreciate your support and feedback!
Well I knew it existed, but based on THAW I just assumed the newer versions were identical like American Wasteland and never really looked it up. And just so you know, some of the more enjoyable videos I've seen are the most basic, no skill needed, things you'll ever see. As long as you've got something to say, you'll soon find an audience who want to listen.
Oh right! Good point! Yeah they scaled back the PS2 port. They did a similar thing with the PS1 versions of THPS3 and 4. (Except the Canada level on the PS1 version of 3 was bigger for some reason). Yes, I'll have to start somewhere. thank you mate!!!
lmao i beat this game when i was 12, it is not nearly as diffucult as you make it out to be. 1. the create a skater engine is more simple because they had a completely different engine to work with the character models in the games prior were incredibly simple in comparison, 2. your major complaints in terms of gameplay are based on how your character falls off of a skateboard and the character not being able to climb very well, how are either of these things a problem when you say that off-board traversal is entirely unnessasary to go through the levels. it's not very deep neversoft had a year to develop this game that's why it's rough around the edges, working with an entirely new engine with 2 new consoles is not condusive to very ironed out work.
Just cause I'm curious, would installing the game to the harddrive improve the loading stutters maybe? Might have to see if I can track a copy down and try it.
Ironically, I encountered this bail physics from the next gen versions of the game (PS3 vsrsion to be exact, since that version was rushed to meet the PS3's release), I was on the tutorial, and I was one of the skaters (I think it was ether Daewon Song, or Bob Burnquist), when I was doing a trick tutorial, I messed up and I was sent flying into the ceiling of the warehouse!!!
Purely stunning and I like that you aren't afraid to sing if all else, just to help make the video more fun-sided haha. Another great review. The intros keep getting better and better. It's such a shame that bad game play physics and glitches really hurt the game because it looks very well done and graphically stunning from a presentation glance. Anyway great review Jak, looking forward to the next one!
Tony Hawk's Project 8 was definitely a pretty damn good game, I agree with the framerate, that was awful. By the way, Proving Ground is the main next installment in the Tony Hawk series. Are you going to skip that one?
The Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of that game are not that great to begin with and the PS2/Wii versions are laughably awful >.< I remember still being stuck with the PS2 and Wii at that time and just getting completely shafted by games like that and Tomb Raider Underworld.
once again, i thought the soundtrack was fantastic; as a 6th grade skater kid (wannabe skater) i loved this game. its not good, but comparing this to the gutter trash thats proving grounds, its amazing.
Another Tony Hawktober video, another Paul W comment! I'll admit I was kind of anxious when you gave the PS2 version a 4/10 when it didn't seem like you went as in-depth with it as usual. I agree that it is absolute trash, don't get me wrong. But it worried me that you were about to give Project 8, overall, a 4/10 based solely on the PS2 version. Thankfully I noticed that there was still like 7 minutes left. I agree with pretty much everything on the 360 version that you said, though I definitely would have given it a higher score. Probably a low 8 or a high 7 in my book! The framerate issues are pretty bad, and the physics and bail system are also not great. But I enjoyed it much more than you overall, evidently! But that's what's great about videogames, and artistic works in general. It will mean something different to different people, some people will love it some people will hate it. It's all how the wind blows! :) I'm slightly disappointed that Downhill Jam is the next game you'll be looking at. I was really hoping Proving Ground would be the finale to Hawktober. When it came out, I only bought it for the Guitar Hero III demo. I thought the game itself was just bad. But I have been playing it again in recent weeks and it is much better than I remember. It is difficult, probably harder than any of the other games in the series, but it's a lot better than I gave it credit for. It feels like the refined product of what Project 8 was supposed to be... sort of. It's definitely different. But you can see the influences. That being said, though, even if I'm disappointed that is your next review, I'm also pretty excited to hear your thoughts! So far our thoughts have been pretty much 1:1 on these games. Downhill Jam is one of the few Tony Hawk games I haven't played (though I bought it a month ago!), and there are some interesting polarities in reactions to it. Some love it, some hate it. I can honestly say that it looks like it has potential to be a lot of fun. So I'm looking forward to your thoughts :) Keep the awesome reviews coming!
Actually I gave it a 3/10. But yeah, the reason I had little to say about the PS2 version was to save repeating myself for everything again looking at the superior version so it seems a little out of control at first but, that's just how it had to be done. And as for Proving Ground, we gotta start next year's Hawktober with a BANG dude. Don't be upset, The Downhill Jam video is one of my preferred videos out of the week so it should be good! :D
Jak I think I know why your channel is growing so slowly. You already gained in fanbase with nostalgic-3D platformers so (i'd say about 1/4) of your subs arent clicking on your newer videos, thus no traffic and your videos arent spreading. Still love the videos man.. keep up the good work
I just bought this for the Xbox 360 again because of this video. I’ve been playing all of the old nostalgic games again and I was missing this from my collection.
Have really enjoyed this mini series. The reviews are outstanding and the intro's are very professional! The intro's could be out of a film they were that good! Your very talented looking forward to more.
Is it possible that the framerate is improved by installing the game to the 360's hard drive? I know some games that run smoother and load a lot quicker once their installed. You didn't mention if installing it makes a performance difference, so I thought I'd bring it up.
Another great review from one of my favorite TH-camrs! Hey Jak, totally random question that’s unrelated to TonyHawkOctober, but what did you think of Spider-Man 3? That film has been resurfacing in my mind a lot, and I want to know what you think about it? Cheers mate!
Another thing to note is that Project 8 happened to be a PS3 launch title which means that version utilized motion controls within the sixaxis controller/dualshock 3. Let that sink to your head for a couple of seconds.
I remember not caring for this one haha....on a note about character customizatioms.... THUG 1 and.. (I shit you not) guitar hero world tour, both have the best character creation systems I ever toyed with haha....i spent 4 days making my drummer on guitar hero look exactly like me right down to my tats. Was so in depth
Man you're the most underrated game reviewer ever. You actually know your stuff about the games you review. Keep up the great work man! Cuz honestly I cud watch ur vids all day and never get bored!
I got this game for Christmas in 2007, along with the Cars video game. I played this game for about 20 minutes and never played it again because I wasn't into playing Tony Hawk games that much anymore.
I'd say to still get it, shouldn't cost much. Because even through that, I still really enjoyed it especially growing up with the PS2 copy. It's one you really have to try for yourself to pick a side.
Bruh did you make that animation at the beginning? If so, that's crazy! Awesome review also! I never played any of the tony hawk games so I've been really enjoying this retrospective.
1:33 when you see something like this you already know that the game is total bollocks. XD There is definitely a huge difference from the PS2 version and XBOX 360, imagine how it would've ran on PS2 with graphics like that! Loved the video bro and I love how you did the intro, what software did you use?
All of the editing for this project has been done in Photoshop and Power Director 14 (because I'm a scrub for not using real editing software). Not that it matters, shit is still good! ;)
Shoutout to the dude in the beginning for that sick manual across the whole, weird A-frame pad thing.
After that incredible singing, I can't help but want a Guitar Hero or Singstar video.
Considering the amount of lube I had to use just to not feel any pain from copyright's big one for this video, the thought of doing it for games like that is scary to me.
WHO DAFAQ NEEDS TO SLEEP ITS FOKIN' TONY HAWKTOBER MATE
I approve that comment hell yeah
Project 8 has gotta be one of my favorite Tony Hawk games. Have a lot of fond memories of the 360 version. I really like the idea of gradually moving up what is essentially a large leaderboard.
😡
@@MrV41N you got it redact
I give the song in the beginning a 10/10.
Eye give it a Tony/10! :D
When an inanimate Xbox 360 console is a better skateboarder than you.
I don't know about that, watch my moves in Downhill Jam and then we'll see who the true Pro Skater is!
@@SquareEyedJak 3 years later and the xbox 360 is still better
I can't think of a single person who wouldn't want to see Bob Burnquist eat strawberries.
Norm is that you?
Two years later, I finally realized... P8 previous gen was 60 fps...
Dude, this guy right here. Is my #1 TH-camr. Squared Eye Jak, Gets.....
10/10
Not even a million subs? You're putting in more effort than most of the channels in the top 10 most subbed content creators
Thank you! Maybe share your favourite video to help get more eyes on the channel, if you think I've earned it. Cheers! :)
that intro makes no sense if you havent played the game lol
I did play the game and it never made sense to me haha
Well he was an unlockable character for multiplayer
Honestly at this point after playing all the games you should be a skate god by now
To be quite honest, with your editing skills and the way you always start out these hawktober episodes, I was expecting you to be that alien baby thing in the beginning hahaha! 👽
Considered it but didn't have the time.
Square Eyed Jak still a great video friend! Brilliant!
@@SquareEyedJak what was the song in the beginning of the neversoft logo?
@@SquareEyedJak I love nothing but pure destruction and Tony hawk games The one If I can't trick off or something I destroy it and then get a bigger score hell you get a destruction bonus for a thousand points in thug2
ME TOO LOL
Your project 8 intro recreation was classic. Singing is timeless and the best
Pewdiepie: You laugh You lose
53.000.000 subs
Square eyed jak: in-depth review that took a Lot of time
14.000
Ok.
Tommaso Merighi Shows that good quality content is not appreciated enough.
80 mill*
@@dereklewis4321 learn how to use , vs .
Pewdiepie is barely a snort chuckle
You're my Fave TH-camr ever dude. Love for you is unreal. You keep it real. You're funny and honest. and Brough a whole new Liking back To Tony Hawk games for me
great work man cant wait to see the last video tomorrow
you were much more committed to this then me trying to do prompt based drawings everyday for a month
This is one of my favorite tony hawk games
This game was one of my favorites from my childhood, but seeing you destroy its gameplay and the game case itself was hilarious! And the recreation of the intro was just perfect! 👍🏻
This has been the best week
PS3 almost had 0 frame rate issues
I played and they do happen but not much. What I think is that since the PS3 is easier to swap the hard drive and mine is newer, it is struggling less to load the world, this game tries to do like GTA which loads the world around you into chunks. Since the PS3 has a mandatory install it is not trying to do this on the disc and it could be improved on 360 by installing (before running any game, press Y so it appears the option to install to improve load times) but to replace the hard drive with a new one instead of the proprietary formatted one which can be slower is kinda annoying. On some PS3 consoles I played I noticed some games loadings slightly worse than mine because they still used the hard drive it came around when it was made
Secretly watching this at work. Cant pass up a jak vid
1:25 - that was some pretty good tech skating
Another good one, Jak! I experienced a lot of frame rate problems too when I played this game as a kid. Can't wait for tomorrows vid!
I loved Project 8 on PS3 and put hundreds of hours into it. Despite the technical flaws, I really enjoyed the large amount of content and challenge, as someone who could pull off big combos and 100% complete THPS4, THUG, and THUG2 with ease.
dude did you go to a real skate park for this? if so that's fucking awesome
No it's green screen
And I am on Day 3, Monsieur Jak!
First off, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into customizing the intros and title screens tailored to each game and making fun of it. It shows consistency and that your editing skills have excelled over the years. You must’ve been working on these videos for close to a year if you did it all the way through THP5.
All right, this is going to be a LONG ONE, so get some popcorn! And take your time.
You singing a Kasabian cover is fucking hilarious! I love it. I don’t think this was on purpose, but the intro to that song makes me feel like what THP8 did to my mind:
“One, take control of me?” (Game controls you since the controls are whack)
“You're messing with the enemy” (Neversoft is messing with their fans making enemies)
“Said its 2, it's another trick” (Is this game a bluff, or did you seriously release this shit?)
“Messin with my mind, I wake up” (Hopefully this travesty is all a dream!)
“Chase down an empty street” (I’m skating down the street looking for content in an unfinished game WTF!!)
THE CREATE A SKATER OPTIONS WERE AWFUL!!!
I completely agree with you on this one. I played both versions, 3 body types to 5 body types just doesn’t cut it. They should’ve just shoved all the customization options from all the previous games onto this one, considering it was on a Bluray disc. And why have body types? Just make your skater the way you want from scratch and mix match looks. The only cool thing about it was you were able to skate as a kid this time without the Kid Mode cheat, but that doesn’t justify taking away the option of… making a skater look like you. They even took out the facial dimension options which really came in handy for those of us that didn’t own an EyeToy or PS Eye. I didn’t really use the create a park option much games after THPS2 since it seemed like an overwhelming chore, but, I know a lot of people enjoyed that..or creating a deck/paint graphic/goals..This was such a disappointment. I could make a more accurate looking skater in THPS2 which is out right pathetic.
I didn’t even realize this was a true open world game because they never advertised it as such, but you’re absolutely right, this format is what we were expecting THAW to be. The menu looked a little lackluster with the clouds and simple text. The clouds were sort of cool since it gave that ‘fresh air’ feel or going as high as you can in the ranks and up a ramp. But, it just didn’t have that edgy feel that I’m used to for the series. It was like they made the menu screen in Power Point and just left it at that and you could tell they took a lot out of this game compared to previous titles.
As for the game play, HOLY FUCK. They took all the amazing moves out of this game that made the three previous titles so much fun. They kept the bert slide, but you couldn’t do the spin extensions no graffiti, no wall flips, no regular flips, no sticker slaps and a glitchy ass wall run. I understand maybe if they were going for a more ‘realistic’ approach to skating and peeled back all the crazy impossible moves, I can see if they didn’t want to rehash the old format and wanted to try a new approach, but none of it was utilized properly, the game just wasn’t fun. I felt there were no instances where getting off my board and climbing/hanging was useful in navigating levels. Anytime I tried to wallrun my character just seemed to repel himself from the wall and not get any height. It was too much work to even try, and some rails and ledges in the levels weren’t even grabable. My character would just ‘shake glitch’ and disconnect with some of the rails/ledges he came in contact with. That seemed to be a popular thing that happened with early PS3/X360 titles. Every rail and ledge in THAW was grabable within level boundaries, that was cool. These advanced graphics seemed to have sloppy contact points, hard to explain, but it probably ties in with the bails:
I’m glad you hated the bails as much as I did! All 7 previous titles had a great way to bail, gravity was taken into account, the skater fell and bled, and was back up on his feet ready to skate. Don’t change it if it ain’t broke. I don’t know why they couldn’t keep this for this title, and tapping X to get up quickly worked out. Now if you bail, your character just turns into a lifeless corpse and starts having a seizure on the ground for 10 seconds until you ‘reset’ your skater, or as you showed us, a vert bail will just launch you into the air for a long ass time and waste valuable play time. Why do this? If they were trying to make this more realistic from previous titles, the last thing you do is make the falls look fake and glitchy. I’m guessing maybe this was the only way the “broken bones goals” could work, but I found those stupid and unfun as well. The goals did not seem cohesive in this game, I was almost never lined up properly with where I was supposed to go at the start of a goal or I ended up overshooting my distance even with low stats. Everything seemed off kilter and combo strings were very hard to do.
Speaking of stats, I have a love-hate relationship with how they decided to it for this game. They really dragged out the way you earn stats. I was used to rushing through previous titles and getting my stats up quickly, but this game made you grind for an extremely long time before you could gain stat points for grinding. It sort of pissed me off since it took forever, but at the same time was a cool idea to make it more challenging. Another thing they did was, for instance, if you had to perform a task and land a combo with let’s say a minimum of 50,000 points, In previous titles I would start a combo far away from the goal with grinds or flatland tricks and by the time I performed the goal I would’ve scored 75,000-150,000 points. But this game made you restart the goal if you exited the immediate play area. Forcing you to do the combo in close proximity to the goal so expert spam players like myself couldn’t cut corners and take the easy way out.
The level designs in this game didn’t impress me too much. The levels had no geographical locations (which is something I always appreciated). I mean, at a glance the bright colors and presentation looked nice, but the designs combined with the shotty controls and falls made this really hard to play and navigate smoothly. I understand the disparity you had with this game trying to focus more on rising to the top of competitions the traditional way (with the help of My Name Is Earl) while also incorporating these zany characters like the real estate agent and The Shining twins that would fit well into the UG games. They could’ve gone for a zany surreal approach starting in the suburbs almost like the world of Edward Scissorhands or The Truman Show, and could’ve been a really fun fictional world but they half assed that, and quarter assed the game as a whole.
Because the skateboard physics and tricks looked different and stats took forever to earn, I found myself really working my butt off to gain the minimum points on the skate competitions. It was a bit of a learning curve, but I did get the rhythm down where I basically had to string together my vert tricks with manuals the whole time to reach a winnable score. And the only reward after beating the game was just ‘Hey! Youre in the top 8..whoo!” It almost had the same idea that UG1 had, but the story was uninteresting, the stakes were lower and I felt restricted the whole time playing it. I was able to kind of muster through the game being the veteran that I was, but doesn’t seem too friendly to new players of the franchise.
One thing I really appreciated about this game was the Nail a Trick mode and the different look of the balance meter. It took a while to get used to the timing of the flips and when to land, but just seeing the board flip in slow motion and the wheels of your skateboard spinning in HD was very cool. Unfortunately, this minor victory does not make up for how fucked up everything else in this game was. Maybe they needed an extra year to work out the kinks of a new generation system’s power and rushed this one out, but considering later releases of this franchise not being so good, I’m not so sure more time could’ve saved this game.
As for the numbers, we have not seen eye to eye on the numbers scale thus far. It depends if we’re just using our judgment based on comparing games within one franchise or the quality of a game overall, as well as if we decide to use increments of ‘1’ or ‘0.5’ (I watch Angry Joe from time to time). And numbers are a one dimensional observation over something that has so many qualitative and creative elements. I was totally okay with giving this game on either platform a 3-5/10. But in no universe would I ever rate this game higher than American Wasteland. I beat this game once out of sheer curiosity just to say I played it (the same reason why some of us choose to watch bad movies), and then I never picked it up again; no replay value for me. It just felt like more of a chore to play than actual fun, and I was wondering if the Neversoft team just completely lost their marbles, and forgot what made this franchise successful. Like they spent every minute of their time developing it while drunk and were going to miss their deadline, so they released an unfinished game and didn’t care if they got to keep their jobs for the next release.. or Tony let his divorces get to his head and was forcing them to make a shitty game so he had somewhere to channel his anger :'D
I should maybe consider doing my own web page, but, I don’t want to re-invent the wheel you built. Keep it up!
Your ally and fellow critic
~Anton
Well then...
On your point about the stats, something I failed to mention that really shit me was that no matter how much you build them up, you never get faster. Rolling along is slow for the entire game. But honestly, I was able to do really strong combos in this game from all corners of the map to the other side which is seriously fun. Much more enjoyable here than in American Wasteland with those fucking hallways. But as I said, the frame drops and messy bail physics would normally fuck me up before I could land.
And as for the scoring thing, I said for THAW that I wasn't expecting to go that low. I had an idea that I was going for a 5/10 but after replaying it for the first time in forever and for the first time, looking at it for review. It really stood out to me as mediocre. So for Project 8, giving it a score higher than American Wasteland for the true version at least was not something I thought was going to happen. But hey, that's how it goes I guess. Didn't even know the 360 existed until about 10 weeks ago when I started doing research for this special.
Also if you've got things to say, you should start a channel or blog or whatever, if it's something you'd be interested in. Already you have a lot to say about stuff so fucking do it dude! :D
Yeah once I got the hang of the controls I was able to do combos, and I agree that they connected the levels way better than THAW, just each level design didn't impress me, and the glitches made it tough.
Oh wow, you didn't know the 360/PS3 one existed all this time? My friend bought the PS2 version when it first came out (I was about 16 at the time, a few years older than you), and then I bought the PS3 version in 2010 and beat it. I thought you'd figure it had a 6th gen release if you knew about the 360 version of THAW. But yes, I had very strong feelings about this game, and it was the last installment I played through entirely.
You're right I should start something. As you know, making videos just costs time, money, a decent computer, and editing skills to make it presentable. I've wanted to review certain movies for a while too. But I appreciate your support and feedback!
Well I knew it existed, but based on THAW I just assumed the newer versions were identical like American Wasteland and never really looked it up.
And just so you know, some of the more enjoyable videos I've seen are the most basic, no skill needed, things you'll ever see. As long as you've got something to say, you'll soon find an audience who want to listen.
Oh right! Good point! Yeah they scaled back the PS2 port. They did a similar thing with the PS1 versions of THPS3 and 4. (Except the Canada level on the PS1 version of 3 was bigger for some reason).
Yes, I'll have to start somewhere. thank you mate!!!
lmao i beat this game when i was 12, it is not nearly as diffucult as you make it out to be. 1. the create a skater engine is more simple because they had a completely different engine to work with the character models in the games prior were incredibly simple in comparison, 2. your major complaints in terms of gameplay are based on how your character falls off of a skateboard and the character not being able to climb very well, how are either of these things a problem when you say that off-board traversal is entirely unnessasary to go through the levels. it's not very deep neversoft had a year to develop this game that's why it's rough around the edges, working with an entirely new engine with 2 new consoles is not condusive to very ironed out work.
Absolute gold dude nothing but perfection by my second favourite youtuber of all time
Who is your #1?
Just cause I'm curious, would installing the game to the harddrive improve the loading stutters maybe? Might have to see if I can track a copy down and try it.
I think what's more sad is the fact that the PlayStation 3 version had zero fps drops whatsoever but lacked the online feature
It's such a huge departure but I grew to love it. AW was as far as they could have taken that style so it was at the least refreshing.
Really good video, Jak! I love your all your vids. Keep up the good work
Look, Bobby B is healing from his testicular damage from Underground 2. Let my man eat strawberries!
Damn jak , those are some totally radical tricks you're doing.
Ironically, I encountered this bail physics from the next gen versions of the game (PS3 vsrsion to be exact, since that version was rushed to meet the PS3's release), I was on the tutorial, and I was one of the skaters (I think it was ether Daewon Song, or Bob Burnquist), when I was doing a trick tutorial, I messed up and I was sent flying into the ceiling of the warehouse!!!
Most underrated TH-camr by far; it fucking pisses me off. Great fucking video.
Cheers mate! :D
Purely stunning and I like that you aren't afraid to sing if all else, just to help make the video more fun-sided haha. Another great review. The intros keep getting better and better. It's such a shame that bad game play physics and glitches really hurt the game because it looks very well done and graphically stunning from a presentation glance. Anyway great review Jak, looking forward to the next one!
Actually it was more just a stunt to dodge copyright but thanks! xD
LOL Well now lol I mean if it works, it works haha
Tony Hawk's Project 8 was definitely a pretty damn good game, I agree with the framerate, that was awful.
By the way, Proving Ground is the main next installment in the Tony Hawk series. Are you going to skip that one?
I can't wait for you to roast Proving Ground. I always enjoyed Project 8 more than that game :D
Well you'll have to wait until next year boy, tomorrow is Downhill Jam!
Fred5107 yep just what I thought proving ground is missing a lotta content
Square Eyed Jak or in 30 years u review the skate series
The Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of that game are not that great to begin with and the PS2/Wii versions are laughably awful >.<
I remember still being stuck with the PS2 and Wii at that time and just getting completely shafted by games like that and Tomb Raider Underworld.
Binging on THPS videos after loving 1+2 on PS4. Loved the Kasabian intro haha! :D
This was actually last good THPS game.
No.
No this was the worst neversoft games
@MrKenwayYT bruh this game is my childhood and I find it pretty underrated.
@@MrRussellRemixes I'm sorry i mean the PS2 version is the worst I love the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions
@MrKenwayYT I think the opposite but ok.
Loved this reviews fantastic work jak
once again, i thought the soundtrack was fantastic; as a 6th grade skater kid (wannabe skater) i loved this game. its not good, but comparing this to the gutter trash thats proving grounds, its amazing.
I died laughing when you started singing the intro song
So far, Tony Hawktober has been absolutely............GLORIOUS!!
More so than Hell In a Cell.
That intro had me dying when the singing kicked in, I was waiting for something to happen because I knew you wouldn't let one go by so unspectacularly
Another Tony Hawktober video, another Paul W comment! I'll admit I was kind of anxious when you gave the PS2 version a 4/10 when it didn't seem like you went as in-depth with it as usual. I agree that it is absolute trash, don't get me wrong. But it worried me that you were about to give Project 8, overall, a 4/10 based solely on the PS2 version. Thankfully I noticed that there was still like 7 minutes left.
I agree with pretty much everything on the 360 version that you said, though I definitely would have given it a higher score. Probably a low 8 or a high 7 in my book! The framerate issues are pretty bad, and the physics and bail system are also not great. But I enjoyed it much more than you overall, evidently! But that's what's great about videogames, and artistic works in general. It will mean something different to different people, some people will love it some people will hate it. It's all how the wind blows! :)
I'm slightly disappointed that Downhill Jam is the next game you'll be looking at. I was really hoping Proving Ground would be the finale to Hawktober. When it came out, I only bought it for the Guitar Hero III demo. I thought the game itself was just bad. But I have been playing it again in recent weeks and it is much better than I remember. It is difficult, probably harder than any of the other games in the series, but it's a lot better than I gave it credit for. It feels like the refined product of what Project 8 was supposed to be... sort of. It's definitely different. But you can see the influences.
That being said, though, even if I'm disappointed that is your next review, I'm also pretty excited to hear your thoughts! So far our thoughts have been pretty much 1:1 on these games. Downhill Jam is one of the few Tony Hawk games I haven't played (though I bought it a month ago!), and there are some interesting polarities in reactions to it. Some love it, some hate it. I can honestly say that it looks like it has potential to be a lot of fun. So I'm looking forward to your thoughts :)
Keep the awesome reviews coming!
Actually I gave it a 3/10. But yeah, the reason I had little to say about the PS2 version was to save repeating myself for everything again looking at the superior version so it seems a little out of control at first but, that's just how it had to be done.
And as for Proving Ground, we gotta start next year's Hawktober with a BANG dude. Don't be upset, The Downhill Jam video is one of my preferred videos out of the week so it should be good! :D
Paul W a
13:30, With the Alien there, at first I thought it was THPS5!
One my fave childhood games. Loved it
Jak I think I know why your channel is growing so slowly. You already gained in fanbase with nostalgic-3D platformers so (i'd say about 1/4) of your subs arent clicking on your newer videos, thus no traffic and your videos arent spreading. Still love the videos man.. keep up the good work
your so hilarious Square eyed jak i love watching your videos great introduction.
Great video Jak
I stay subbed to this funny bloke! But more than funny because all of the reviews are informative yet entertaining! All his reviews speak facts! 🤬
i remember literally reenacting a couple of the cutscenes, specifically the evil twin girls one.
I just bought this for the Xbox 360 again because of this video. I’ve been playing all of the old nostalgic games again and I was missing this from my collection.
Have really enjoyed this mini series. The reviews are outstanding and the intro's are very professional! The intro's could be out of a film they were that good! Your very talented looking forward to more.
Thanks mate, only one more day tomorrow and then it's back to normal.
I've been binge watching all your other video's too. :)
The soundtrack for this game is one of the best in the series! If Jak says anything bad about the soundtrack I'm gonna be sad : (
Last tony hawk game I liked playing
13:27 Wait is that Reaper from Guitar Hero??
Is it possible that the framerate is improved by installing the game to the 360's hard drive? I know some games that run smoother and load a lot quicker once their installed. You didn't mention if installing it makes a performance difference, so I thought I'd bring it up.
Another great review from one of my favorite TH-camrs! Hey Jak, totally random question that’s unrelated to TonyHawkOctober, but what did you think of Spider-Man 3? That film has been resurfacing in my mind a lot, and I want to know what you think about it? Cheers mate!
WOW, the intro is really stepping it up, kinda surprised the game got a 5, thanks for the nostalgia :D
Great video man
Another thing to note is that Project 8 happened to be a PS3 launch title which means that version utilized motion controls within the sixaxis controller/dualshock 3. Let that sink to your head for a couple of seconds.
I remember not caring for this one haha....on a note about character customizatioms.... THUG 1 and.. (I shit you not) guitar hero world tour, both have the best character creation systems I ever toyed with haha....i spent 4 days making my drummer on guitar hero look exactly like me right down to my tats. Was so in depth
GH world tour had a great customization for your band my favorite as well
I continue to not have any achievements for this game on the 360.
Man you're the most underrated game reviewer ever. You actually know your stuff about the games you review. Keep up the great work man! Cuz honestly I cud watch ur vids all day and never get bored!
I wonder if you install the game to the xbox 360 hard drive would help with the studdering
I got this game for Christmas in 2007, along with the Cars video game. I played this game for about 20 minutes and never played it again because I wasn't into playing Tony Hawk games that much anymore.
The musical bits you do in the videos 😂. Don’t ever get rid of those.
I got the ps2 version the other day and I’m about to finish it but I loooove it because I played the ps3 version first as a kid
14:48 the van was like "oh shit I'm in shot" better back up XD
Can't agree on the pro trips mode, i loved that as a kid.
This is the game I bought release for the PS3. I loved it. Recently went and beat all of the games up through 8 and I liked it still
Is this better than Proving Ground?
Damn, the 360 version looks decent. Was tempted to even get it but when you shown those frame-rate dips.... ouch.
I'd say to still get it, shouldn't cost much. Because even through that, I still really enjoyed it especially growing up with the PS2 copy. It's one you really have to try for yourself to pick a side.
What about the OG Xbox and PS3 versions?
the bails in this game were so fun
Oh damn, Launceston skatepark!
why is the max quality 1080p50 wtf
Can you review the Skate games?
i never stopped bugging my mom about how much i wanted THP8 for the PS3 until i actually got it... ahhh... good times...
Also sick Kasabian cover.
How many times have you given a 9 to a game. I know one CTR but are there any others?
CTR and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Best Kasabian cover EVER !
I really enjoyed this game.
Needs more Bob Burnquist eating strawberries
Bruh did you make that animation at the beginning? If so, that's crazy! Awesome review also! I never played any of the tony hawk games so I've been really enjoying this retrospective.
Of the alien? No, that's right from the game. But thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying it!
Ah I should have guessed. Oh well, can't wait for tomorrow's review!
Happy Tony Hawktober 2024 everyone!
I honestly love project 8 top 5 game for sure. The nails are funny af 😂
haha great intro ! Thats about as good as i can skateboard .
i thought i was the only one experience the frame rates issue, that thing bothered me! I actually did enjoy playing the game
Those “physics” were amazing to watch at least.
7:21 How do I do the trick
Why are you playing it on the PS2
This game was my childhood
I remember playing this one (PS2) and American Wasteland as a kid... oh God lol only now I realize how bad they were!
American Wasteland was actually pretty good
No its not good
Lol singing Kasabian is totally worth a sub!
I have this game.... Now I don't feel bad for not finishing it... Underground was gold .
1:33 when you see something like this you already know that the game is total bollocks. XD There is definitely a huge difference from the PS2 version and XBOX 360, imagine how it would've ran on PS2 with graphics like that! Loved the video bro and I love how you did the intro, what software did you use?
All of the editing for this project has been done in Photoshop and Power Director 14 (because I'm a scrub for not using real editing software). Not that it matters, shit is still good! ;)
lol ok thnx I have used Power Director and it is a pretty good editor in my opinion, it all still looks good to me! ;D