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- he Epic of Gilgamesh, the Genesis creation story, Bhagavad Gita. These are just a few examples of the myths and stories that explain human existence. Individuals like Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell have argued that while these myths sprang from different cultures, they all share similar archetypes and meta-narratives. My guest today has picked up where Jung and Campbell left off and is making an impassioned case that the way to save ourselves from increasing political polarization is to become acquainted with these ancient human myths once again.
His name is Jordan B. Peterson and he’s a clinical psychologist at the University of Toronto. But unlike many clinical psychologists, Dr. Peterson has spent his career studying human myths and how they can provide meaning in a world of tragedy and frustration. Today on the show, Jordan provides an introduction to the world of myths and archetypes. We begin our discussion talking about some of the big archetypes we see over and over again in stories across cultures and time, and why they show up everywhere.
We then discuss feminine and masculine archetypes in detail, how the hero archetype is the link between the two, and examples of the hero archetype from around the world. Jordan argues that disregarding or ignoring these ancient myths led to the rise of extreme political ideologies in the early 20th century, as well as their resurgence today. We end our conversation discussing how these myths can help young men journey into noble manhood, and the books Jordan recommends young men read to learn more about them.
While the subject may seem heady, this is an accessible and fun conversation, filled with insights about how to live a flourishing, meaningful life. You’ll definitely be thinking about its ideas after the show is over.
Show Highlights
How Jordan’s interest in myths percolated
A quick primer on Carl Jung’s philosophy
How stories and myths give meaning and order to life
The Darwinian nature of myths that have been passed down thousands of years
How myths - like creation stories, worldwide floods, and apocalyptic events - relate to everyday life
The big archetypes found throughout world history and cultures
How meta-narratives instruct us and set the pattern for action and behavior
Why accepting and even welcoming struggle is important for a flourishing life
Why ideologies are dangerous
Nietzsche and the death of God
Making the case for mythology in a post-secular world
Why Jordan’s work attracts far more men than women
Why men should forego the pursuit of power and instead seek competence
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*So the way to combat nihilism is to emulate the archetypal hero character and give your life purpose by slaying the metaphorical dragon, or those who oppose what is good.*
yeah, you gotta impose a story structure on your life, maintain and act it out
Beowulf is the awesomest story structure
I was surprised and thought this recently came out, but further looking into the podcast dates, it looks like this one was released over two years ago.
This is by far the clearest exploration of Jordan's work! Great listen 👍
Amazing episode
I would like more of JBP on Gita. Btw, Both Thoreau and Emerson were conversant with the Bhagvad Gita.
Establish your aim, confronting obstacles as they come, and attempt to accurately and truly articulate your being.
This interview is not from Feb 22, 2020
@ArtofManliness Please state the correct date of recording
This podcast is a solid resource.. keep them coming!
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2 of my favorite people. I love both of you guy's books! Have a wonderful day. :)
Loved this. Peterson is such a lucid and intelligent guy... great content!
I was raised mostly by my mom. Her philosophy was, when people act aggressively toward me, if I ignore them,they will lose interest and leave you alone. What actually happened was people would read "weak coward" and would act even more aggressive and violent. I am in my sixties and am just now pulling myself out.What can I do to maximize my life experience for the positive?
Well I’m 23 and female but I recommend JPs videos about naivety. They are God-sent in waking up to victimisation and passivity. Type in “Jordan Peterson naive” he also made a recent video with Robert Green the writer of 48 Laws of Power and that video is Gold too, talks upon similar topics and you’ll very much relate to Robert Greene’s anecdotes about his experience being a ‘coward’ it’s actually what motivated him to write his books.
you didn't hold your frame strong enough
@@alexandersutveckling8302 Yeah this has been an intuitive thing I do in the streets. Trying to ignore them is seen as weakness. You hold whatever badass energy you have and move on to your day like you're impenetrable. I'm not pretending either, they genuinely don't register as a threat even if it's 5 people. If they need so much back-up to feel brave what a bunch of pussies
AOM is already at Podcast #586. I think it´s a kind of homage from Brett to JP
Is this after he came from rehab?
I know this one! Read Vendramini.
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Apocalypse means reveal.
nice he's healthy again and not going crazy
His daughter though has just started going crazy
Had any of the two gone crazy? I think, appropriate words should be used in face of the one you're not fan of! At least, it will help to bring good vibes in our minds!
@@Deurhzd what happened to his daughter?
Maybe you should check the latest Jordan Peterson update on youtube. He is on the mend now but this was obviously recorded a long time ago. He only started to vome out the other end about a month ago. He credits his daughter with saving his life.
46:16 so funny that "ideology" comes up, when so much of JBP's message feels like enshrined ideology. Maybe it's just me / I'm just not into his "order and chaos" model / description
What else would it be?
@@brendenmendez8945 I think what I was thinking a year ago was that he's so adamant and rigid about his mental model, like "postmodern neo-marxist" is such a Jordan Petersonism for instance, like he's created an ideology for himself; it's funny he says he's against something he's practicing.
I think in terms of order and chaos it's the idea that order is good / the best and chaos is ultimate bad / evil, but I think he has tempered this occasionally where too much order can be a bad thing, and some amount of chaos is good
I do BENZOS.
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If Jordan could get away from that vibethat he’s always yelling and defensive, it would be helpful. ☺️ Really enjoy his thoughts.
Seems like your own perception
@@hypno5690 It's just a little hard to listen to after about 15 mins
Seem like your own perception 2
@@hypno5690 No. It’s not just a perception. I thought exactly the same before I read this ‘vibe’ comment. “Why does he talk like he’s arguing (or defending)?”
You face hardship or crisis you take benzos like he did. Not me.
love yuor channel n i wish you were my dad but peterson is a professional misinformation spreader and an unstable neoliberal corporate plant.
most his opinions are just unempathetic towards the poor and disabled etc and many of his ideas are based off things that just are not true
like?
So much verbiage for simple concepts.
Ha ha. Well said!
They seem simple because theyre being explained well. If you take every concept at face value then you wont understand anything. "Clean your room" has depth beyond literally cleaning your room but if it wasnt explained youd have no way of knowing without working towards the philosophical implications yourself. And if youre smart enough and have the time enough to do that then you wouldnt be watching this video.
You need to expand your vocab
You want someone genuine who actually has info and something to offer to people have Owen Benjamin on
you’re slow. you haven’t read or listened to anything of his in entirety. you fear your own existence.
He has some good person advice but his religious and political stuff is nonsense
How so?
Arthur I thought you died!
And there's me thinkin I was a fish, he says I'm a man, whatever, I'll go with flow.
That's Philosophy mate haha
"The stuff I dont agree with is nonsense because I dont like it"
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