Is this the future? - OnCourse - Episode 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2020
- Are you ready for cruising on foils at 50 knots where selecting the pace and the ride that you're after is no harder than switiching between cruise and sport modes in your car? This new monster of a cruising concept might be closer than you think. We take a look at the exciting developments ahead of the America's Cup in Auckland as all four teams get afloat with their new boats. Plus, we report on an emotional start for the Vendée Globe along with some of the surprise casualties.
IN THIS EPISODE
00:53 Is the future for sailing?
06:12 Docktalk - Musto & the Vendée Globe
07:17 Tips to get an entry for the Rolex Fastnet Race
08:12 Vendée Globe Race - They're off
13:19 America's Cup - 1st flight for the new boats
DockTalk links:
Musto
www.Musto.com
RORC - Rolex Fastnet Race
www.rolexfastnetrace.com - กีฬา
The quality of that presentation is Design School level.
Agreed. Well articulated and educative.
it's almost GTA5 good but no anti-aircraft system, so pass.
Ahhhhhh, just to see that Bury the bow at speed in funky winds!
Great show, looking forward to the next one.
Superb update thank you!!
Top Show as Usual - Thank you
Good Lord. The advertisements keep being interrupted by sailing videos!!!
Install an app to your PC's browser call "AdBlockPlus", no more adv for me, gladly donate $$ to the software designer.
First time viewing PlanetSail, amazing, the future is here.
The computer animated mega-cat looked like it was rendered 2005. A company which tries to show future possibilities in such a way does not really impress me. But the (also badly animated) half naked ladies are surly nice.
Yep. Some cringy amateurish sci fi b movie crap. The mast is comically short and that thing would never go past 10 kts, let alone get on its foils.
I’d bet that at social gatherings everybody within earshot of you cringes, shakes their head and quickly comes up with a reason to distance themselves from you every time you open your mouth.
2005 or Design school level
@@TonythaMastha Looks like GTA Vice City
As an aerospace engineer I find your heeling analysis to be a bit over stated: yes, it’s more complicated because the boats “heel” in 3 dimensions which adjust the angle of attack and pitch and yaw of the foils and the sail, BUT the foils are NOT fixed by buoyancy to the surface (or some finite depth below the surface). All of the forces on the boat effectively act as a force and moment arm about the CG but you’re not dealing with buoyancy forces (much) once the boat is flying. Buoyancy forces are very good at giving you an “axis” to rotate about because rolling takes comparatively much less force than pitching does for a long slender displacement craft. Water is very dense so small relatively small changes in submerged volume result in tremendous forces. But this is not so for foils: the lift and drag forces are determined by velocity and angle of attack & yaw as well as dynamic pitching rolling and plunging. A gust will create a heeling moment but also a nose down moment about the CG because the CP of the sails is above the mast. The heeling moment wants to drive the main foil deeper in the water but that rotation may in turn cause the rudder foil to pull towards the surface. If the rudder ventilates then the stern suddenly drops, the angle of attack on the main foil is drastically increased and you encounter the frightening wheelie maneuver that NYYC #2 pulled. There is definitely no fixed axis of rotation between the foils though.
Excellent analysis of the sailing forces on AC75s. These are completely different boats with their own unique sailing characteristics. For this reason, it will be the crew’s ability to control these half bird half fish yachts that will determine their success.
Sudden ventilation makes a significant sucking sound. At least that’s the way it used to be on my windsurfer when I over pressured the fin at max speed. On these giant vessels, that might be a very dramatic sound and I hope the video of these boats includes the audio of those rudder foils.
I an not an engineer but a mere carpenter. Your explanation makes a lot of sense but I expect our host got his information from the design team of these amazing vessels. Both explanations seem logical. My reason for commenting however is the idea I’m stuck on that dual foiling rudders could provide additional downward and leeward control without significant added drag.
Spettacolo
Darth Vader wants his sailboat back
Amazing technology
The force on the foils must be crazy with something so large.
Multiple tons of pressure I'm sure. Double digits at the least. Amazing that one moving part can support the entire vessel. That's some serious engineering.
Or allot of trial and error. I do not think that any kind of metal would do the job. Carbon fiber is the saving grace here. Nothing else would handle the extreme pressure.
We must not underestimate the Aquatic Maze known as the Hauraki Gulf.
Does the impressive ship detect oceans of plastic and fishing nets that might get caught up in those oversized foils?:)
Wow
The problem with foils and large expensive yachts, is the threat of striking an object in the water that would cause the foil to break, or snag the foil causing significant damage to the boat. especially when you consider the speed and mass of a sailing boat of this size being up on foils. Imaging travelling at 30+ knots and the foil collides with a large object (ie: whale/large fishing net/or something tethered to the ocean floor).
You would need foils more commonly employed on large steel hulled hydrofoils.
Like to see some test sails at sea!!!
Anyone remember Second Life? Well, apparently its boats are the future...
These double hull yachts look like they're based off of polynesian boats. That's awesome
Was just thinking that. I am and from Polynesia. Samoa and Hawaii. I wish it was more prevalent today though.
He who keels his sails wins the race.
"That's not a yacht. That's a postcide." I can tell you are very pleased with that line. 😄 As you should be. 🙌🙌🙌
100m hulls at 50knots. Hmmmmm ok 🤔
That boats designed for me
So far removed from sailing as I know and love it. Like living in an art gallery.
NZ will come up with something new.
And the Kiwis will find a new way to break their boat. Can't wait.
@@robhaythorne4464 if you dont break it, you arent pushing the envelope.
What is this advert reel.
Nemesis: how many $ per passenger space capital build cost?
I think we *do* know how Corum will make out-she dismasted like a week before this video aired...
Decepticon sailboat
except instead of a sail i have a blimp on a teather that is also a wing...
The America' Cup is just now getting around to using foils. Something aviation has been using foils for the past 70 - 80 years. Talk to a pilot if you want to know what is the future for water foils.
The future of the America's Cup ? Races that can take place at any weather but heavy storm or hurricanes. Then we will see how true seamen and rock solid and fast sailboats battle through rough waves and strong winds.
I wont get it in my marina birth unfortunately.
Looks like The Sims
These are world class sailors but they will be challenged like never before. Crew skills will be paramount to handling the wild characteristics of the flying fish AC75s. Faster speeds will put greater pressure on the crew reflexes in order to respond to the unusual forces which drive the boat. A mistake will at best lose the race and at worst destroy the boat.
Video game boat design, GTA meets Water World.
I don't see how they can get the cat light enough so that it will foil properly. The key with the truly effective foilers is super light weight, and even with all carbon construction, if you include the "mod cons" expected in a 300 footer, it just seems impossible.
I've harped on this before, but AC36 in AC75's is going to be spectacular boats doing poor racing. Even a small speed advantage will result in huge differences on the race course, and the guys who've figured it out are going to smoke those who are a step (or a mile) behind. And I don't think we're going to find "some are better in some areas than others". It's going to be a slaughter, and if I had to pick a winner at this point, it's the Kiwi's. (But I wouldn't bet on it.)
They should have stuck with the AC45/50's, developed them with some smart rule changes and upgrades and allowed a lot of other teams to get involved. More teams is better for the sport. More countries would be interested, there would be more sailors, and more money (more countries = more possible sponsors) would be more spread out. Look what's happened with the Vendee Globe with a ~ $10 million budget - 33 teams! Even if you take just the new generation foilers, it's 8 teams. Think what AC36 would be with 8 teams!
Somebody in art school took a 3D modeling course and made their dream boat. Too bad they don't know much about designing boats...
They should work with Elon musk for some of these systems.... teslas have a lot of sensors and systems that resembles the ones on this yacht 👍
What happens when the foils hit a submerged log?
Biggest cartwheel you've ever seen!!
There is said to be a lot of cameras on the boat. So the views will cover the insurance deductible🤙
Sliced and diced log.
Hopefully.
Am I the only one noticing, that this catamaran would be way too heavy for those kinds of foils? Even assuming the foils on the cat are as large in relation to the hull as the foils on the AC boats there is no way they generate enough lift for a fully fitted boat... make them larger and they have too much drag... looks a bit fishy to me
I disagree, those foils make sense to me. They provide the lift and the 90 degree angle on the end is what holds the weight above the water line.
@@robh87 who knows. Maybe you're right. But i Sure won't believe it until i see it
Everything looks good in cgi. Something out of TRON...
Tron was way more sophisticated. I think VPLP had this done by a summer intern that ended up working from home.
DARTH VADER
Yes, we need more hype. Most drunks on the bay can't handle 6 knots.
Where's the fun in that? Ok, maybe crossing the Atlantic in 3 days on your super yacht doing very little.
Just get a jet.
Trying to watch as the boat us Jerkjng all over.
Trying to see the details was impossible
But a very calm showing the interior
That was the beginning
Had to jump forward but th we n annoying music.
Enough
Wow, really sorry I have to say this as so far, I have always found your content grounded in proper journalism but the Musto sequence unfortunately sounded like you just read aloud from a press release. If they pay the channel, then all is good and well and you can say something like "a word about our sponsor..." but if not, then that was just fill.
(How many here have had Musto products delaminate on them faster than could be expected?)
Looking forward to the next one, though.
Who can afford to buy a 101 meter catamaran mega yacht???
I can't even buy a UFO or iFly15 foiling cat 😂
Only oil money would pay for that.
Can sailors do anything that doesn’t scream out pretentious and elitist? How about an updated folkboat competition, designing an affordable, sustainable sailboat with integrated self-steering and off-grid electrical charging system, etc. for singlehanded or short handed sailing?
'No heeling, no pitching, no rolling.' Also no pulling on ropes, steering, getting splashed occasionally, no seasickness. You can minimize time spent between anchorages. No galley duty. No watches. Fuck it - I don't even like sailing, said owner Vladimir Putin.
What an awful design,
Are you saying you can do better.
Watched the whole thing
I think your right lol.
@@richsmith3300 yes probably, if I hade the same education
A show of money not sailing
Ridiculous.
this isnt the future, this a prototype toy for the ultra-wealthy. too big for a cruiser or charter, too small and impractical for a cruiseship. Also can we talk about these interior shots? a sailboat with open shelves and free standing plants? no chance that works out for anyone actually using this boat
We must not underestimate the Aquatic Maze known as the Hauraki Gulf.
Nemesis: how many $ per passenger space capital build cost?