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Tannoy Monitor Gold 15" - 1968 Vintage Dual Concentric Speakers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2012
- Tannoy Monitor Gold drivers are very musical and easy to listen. No the most detailed, and the soundstage depth is far from ideal, but despite these pitfalls, very enjoyable to listen. Overall, sweet sound, with a lot of kick and energy to it.
The purpose of this video is to demonstrate the look and feel of Tannoy Monitor Gold speakers and not their sound. For an in-depth review and my thoughts on their sound, please visit my website: audionostalgia....
Amplifier: Yamaha A-S2000
CD Player: Yamaha CD-S2000
Song: Diana Krall - Temptation
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For an in-depth review, please visit my website: audionostalgia.co.uk/tannoy-monitor-gold-15-review/.
The purpose of this video is to demonstrate the look and feel of Tannoy Monitor Gold speakers and not their sound.
-Tube amplification has made my audio experience so much better
-full-range single-driver speakers have made my audio experience so much better
-electro-statics can be incredible
-quite often "better" equipment is simply "different"
-room acoustics are totally important
-a glass of cabernet in hand will make just about anything at least somewhat better
We all do the best we can with what we have in the home environment that we have. I really like what you've got in place for listening to music ... nice speakers, and the music speaks to me. I do know that I don't have it. Just picked up the eponymous "Natalie Merchant"
Thank you for your wise words and nice comment. I really like the bit about glass of Cabernet... ;)
Yes tube amplification is the way to fo for sure, using icon audio mb 845 mk ii m mono blocks to power my kensington gr's with a la 5tx pre amplifier. Avid deck as i prefer vinyl, but have a cary super audio cd player and naim hdx media streamer.
Hars to beat those old 15 inch drivers from the 60s , had a pair for years, but they died on me recently... Had to spend £10k on speakers to get an equal replacement...
Such an amazing sound for those full range big cones. In person must sound so so so good.
Thanks for posting. The Tannoys sound so rich, and Diana is magnificent on hi-fi. Great post!
You lucky bastard. Man I would love to have a pair of these. Big Tannoy is the absolute bottom of the audiophile rabbit hole.
Not sure about lucky ;). These were sold number of years ago. Nice speakers but IMHO, Tannoys are nowhere near the bottom of the audiophile rabbit hole. Sure, great speakers, plenty of nostalgia and engaging sound but there are many more far better speakers out there in terms of acoustic performance. If we are talking about vintage gear the Celestion Ditton 66 are much better in my subjective opinion. If we are talking about modern speakers with heritage, Harbeth M40.1 are the closest I ever been to the bottom of the audiophile rabbit hole.
Thank you! :) Glad you like them.
That system really does sound amazing. I suspect it is even better in person.
Not bad ar all, more homogeneous and realistic than thousand of brand new speakers... Tannoy legend still alive
Diana Krall on Tannoy...whew what a combo!
That was awesome! Well done. Thanks for sharing.
Sorry that your first attempt didn't meet your expectations.
i remember being sixteen around early eighties and buying some Tannoy Mercury speakers and wishing i could have bought these now vintage classics. Like the Tannoy Westminster Too, although the Magna Planar was also ahead of its time. These vintage Tannoys are beautiful and sound better than half the plastic crap they sell these days. I would buy them
Hi brizzleben and thank you for your kind comment,
4 years ago I thought that having these speakers was out of my reach and not really realistic. And here I am... :) I'm a great believer that if you want something really bad, providing you work really hard for it, you will have it sooner or later.
RE £300 speakers - I can only talk about the speakers that I have heard in my living room. Out of all of £300 ones, Tannoy Mercury F4 were the ones I liked the most. TDL Studio 1 were interesting too.
No wonder original 1960s Gold monitors are so sought after. I have a 12 inch pair of 1968 Gold monitors and love them dearly...especially driven with tube gear,
Yeah, there are a really nice speakers with tons of nostalgia, but IMHO, there are miles away from what you can get with well designed modern speakers. There has been a lot of progress over the last 60 years in terms of engineering, material science and our understanding of psychoacoustics.
You really need to consider that these speakers were not designed to be used with typical modern SS or Class D amps.Their impedance characteristic suits amplifiers with much lower damping factors,highish output impedance and no negative feedback.With the right amplifiers they can sound superb but typical modern amplifiers do not do them justice and will tend to sound flat and dry.Even very good ones.It is all about electrical compatibity.If you want to use a SS amp then try something like a Bakoon or a Pass Labs SIT3 which are more current drive and less voltage drive The Bakoons sound superb with Monitor Gold 15s.
Why would negative feedback hurt rniess speakers? You saying my 1959 Bell Carillion 6060 EL34 Tube Amp woudnt be perfect for these because it uses negative feedback?
Its nice to see a sixties speaker set up done so well, the big tannoys of this era were some of the best available, i now use ns 1000, but still luv to hear tannoys.
As for the adverse comments regarding speaker cable, this only ever comes from a lack of interest in the art of perfecting a set up to its full potential.........very well done.
Omg this sound so clear !! And the music is perfect to just relax
Incredible that they are getting all of that range from one large driver.
It´s actually two drivers. The HF mounted behind the woofer, sounding through a horn in the middle of the woofer. It`s called Coax drivers. The Tannoy monitor Golds are legendary. Tons of hit records have been mixed through Tannoy coax 15"s of different generations. Still used in high end sound studios worldwide.
I still think this is my favorite video of yours, love those speakers!
How can anybody watching/listening to this say the speakers sound great. All we hear of them is through the speakers of our own computer system. No way to sample speakers. I have owned a couple of these speakers since 1972, and to this day I have never heard anything to match or beat them.
Amazing cd & vinyl collection! Needless to say that the cabinets & electronic devices are also great, and fit just right with the contrast of the room.
Make a good use of them!
Great speakers, enjoyed the video. Nice music too. Always rated tannoy highly. Got a pair of kensington gr's recently when my 60s drivers failed. Great speakers, health to enjoy them.
It is a Dual Concentric construction patented by Tannoy. The tweeters are in the middle of the bass woofers, on the back of the driver. The woofers work as an extension of the mid-high horn.
Just google it for more information.
Best regards,
Brastu
This is a form of pleasure that is almost lost.....for the love of music.
Great job Bro , and beautiful Diana !
Cool looking design. Gotta love Tannoy. Still a recording studio staple today.
Great to see vintage Tannoys in action (inside your own design cabs) , the good thing is when you get to 62 your ears still go to 13khz and you can hear leaves rustle in the wind!! Others will find their hearing completely gone!!!
You wouldn't be able to get me out of that ARMCHAIR Love the speakers.beautiful
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Well done, and thanks for the upload.Makes me crave different speakers &and systems) for different genres of music ;-)
Nice enclosures. They sound great.
A good job, they look properly retro. Personally I feel they'll look great once you either veneer the plywood edges or glue on strips of hardwood. I'd put at least three coats of yacht varnish on them too to bring out the depth of the wood. But I'm European :o) I swear the key to understanding that 1950s-early 60s style is reading up on heraldry a little; It was a transition point between grandiose no-classicism and the clean lines of modernism. The colour palette was post-war austerity but the match of dove grey with rich dark woods was a classic one - you even see it in Star Wars!
Beautiful! Would be awesome to hear in person.
Fantastic project. Well done!
I had a chance to listen to these speakers a couple of days ago. My first impression was why would anyone waste $5k for a pair of 50-year-old speakers that look like they were just retrieved from a dumpster. Boy I was so wrong, the sound was so good and so full unlike anything that I've listened to before. They are big and kind of "ugly", but as people say "Looks can be deceiving", well certainly in this case the look does not do any justice to the speakers.
Big speaker box=more bass
Hello again. The remnants of the horn are used just for bracing purposes, however if I had know from the start that I will end up building BR enclosures, I would probably go for the MDF instead of PLY and a lot more bracing.
Best regards,
Brastu
Yes, they do. They were not meant to be BR enclosure... Because of all the faffing about I had to do to convert them from the original GRF project, they are not as neat as I wanted them to be.
I will build another set of enclosures at some point, probably from MDF and with more internal bracing. And then I will veneer them.
I obviously do not have a such a good hearing like you do as I hear very little difference between solid state amps. I can appreciate good valve though...
Cheers,
Brastu
Sounds great as best I can tell on youtube, but these speakers were designed during the tube era and you might find it interesting to test drive them with an old tube amp (or a new one). Since they are high efficiency you won't have to worry about wattage much.
As far as I am aware (based on an extensive online research) these speakers were designed with transistor amp in mind. They were manufactured when the transistor amps were taking over. They are 8ohms, not 16ohms like their predecessors. They are slightly less efficient too.
I personally like to listen music at realistic volume levels, and for this, 10wpc and 93dB speakers is not enough... But then again, there are more powerful valve amps around.
Dual Concentrics,have the tweeter in the middle of the cone, inside the bass unit, firing through the dust cap in the centre, giving a great stereo image, but very expensive to make, revolutionary in its day
Kef Q series nowadays, have concentrics too.
I bought a pair Tannoy Monitor Gold in 1969 powered by Quad amplifiers. I think it was a mistake not to buy the Quad electrostatic speakers which in my opinion delivered a completely natural sound free of the bass emphasis often heard with other designs. The electrostatics were superb when listening to the speaking voice.
Fifty years on I am completely out of touch with what modern speakers and systems may be capable of.
very nice set up I miss my hifi I might see what I can get! you cant beat a good amp and speaker set up
i prefer the yamaha ns 1000 over this sound, The yamaha's you tested sounded much more detailed. Thanks for the upload. I miss some mids in these speakers over the yamaha's.
vintage stereo Yes one misses much Through a simple youtube upload.
o łałał... Krall seems to be the best of her here! Ciekawie tak trafić na Twoje video :D pozdr, Emi
Beautiful job on the cabinets - beautiful sound indeed!
And yeah, what a gorgeous tune.
I wish I has those boxes in my studio monitoring room.. I have Axiom 80 drivers, but they lack the bottom end of the large Tannoys. I think I need to pair up the Axioms with something else maybe? Or change for a different setup. Mmm, the Tannoys would be hard to beat for the deep & broad tones.
Even through a compressed youtube vid the sound is breathtaking - I can really hear the 'air' and tight but natural bass response. I'd love to hear some nick drake through these :)
the cabinet itself is a work of art. :-)
It maks me to remenber when i was young . i mean the speaker . it is nice also ur place is comfortable .thanks to share.
For some reason I doubt if it has got the charm of Tannoy's signature sound. May be the recording... or room.
Love to see your passion.... look forward for more videos from you.
Hi ninjabluewings, thank you for you comment,
As you've probably noticed I am a vintage HiFi lover too. I have never heard vintge KEFs in action. I need to have a look for a pair. Is there anything from 1970s that really stands out, that you would recomend?
Inside the bass cone. It is a Dual Concentric construction patented by Tannoy. Google it and have a look at the drawings.
Great looking system.I love big boxy speakers.Plus Diana Krell.
Those sound great on my crappy laptop, would really like to hear them live.
They sound a lot like my A7s. Simply lovely.
Tannoy still the best!! When you hear them, you just know. Match with Yamaha.
tannoy для понимающего человека-основное и достаточное блюдо...)
Hi Robert,
Thank you for your comment. The system sounds much better live - you're welcome to come and listen yourself if you ever find yourself in West Yorkshire, UK.
Re JBL 4345 - I've read some comments about them and I have to say, I would not mind having a go at putting a pair together. Did you buy or make yours?
I never had a pleasure of listening to them but I'm sure there is a lot of truth is all of the positive comments I've read.
Take care,
Brastu
Funky looking speakers and great sounding floor board ;)
Thanks. It was a rented flat that I no longer live in :).
Hi steelspunscourer, hmm at the time when I was making them I did not have garage and I did not want to go through the hassle of veneering myself hence I went for a ready-made ply. If I was going to do it properly I would use the MDF for enclosures and put exotic veneer on.
Have had 13 pairs of Tannoys, (HPD385's,K3838,Golds,Berkleys,Ardens,Cheviot &
DU386) Only have one pair of Super Red 10" now, They are Great,
Found the Golds soggy & dull the two pairs I owned, good for classical & some Jazz,not great for Rock, But people love them !! sold them into Asia
I like this sounds a lot.
At just 8 watt/channel and connected with 16A cooker cable, I have never heard better, regardless of price.
My apologies if you think am being aggressive, the point of my comments is only to inform.
Best regards
Peter.
very nice setup, very nice music collection
Witam
Oglądałem twoje filmiki jak również znalazłem twoje wpisy(pewnie nie wszystkie) na jakimś forum, sam mam LITTLE GOLD MONITOR(jak twoje) i chciałem zapytać jaka/gdzie jest różnica w dzwięku/paśmie/szczegółach (nie chodzi mi o różnice w wielkościach głośników/obudowach które zdaje sobie sprawe robia róznice/parametrach - bo te znam) między 12'' a 15''? i może ile zmieniły się głośniki jak odświeżyłeś zwrotnice? (tez siedze w angli i z całą chęcią bym posłuchał obu)
z góry dzieki
I ended up here while looking at all the home speaker systems of many people throughout the world. I clicked here due to the tannoys, but was really disappointed.
I know these are good and are much more capable, even on a youtube video.
hows about put on some nice smooth mark knopfler/dire straits, from their first album and let these babys shine.
stephen chase All of my videos are here to demonstrate how the speakers look and feel (and this links to my website with a full review). Sound is only a bonus - after all, how can I demonstrate a system, recording the sound via camera microphone and publishing it in a compressed audio format... I too love Dire Straits, especially first album.
this is beautiful!
Much like Diana herself, those Tannoy's make me weak in the knees.
Just wanted to say your speakers sound fantastic! I can tell, because i'm listening to your video on a restored set of vintage ess model 5 performance series speakers. Ess's own quote for there amt or"air motion tweeters" is; "SOUND AS CLEAR AS LIGHT".
What kind of tweeter are you using on those? Google ess speakers. I am a vintage hifi nut myself and will always have to have a set of speakers that sound live...and the ess 5's do it for me.
Definitely a great system, but I'm curious what your friend and family think about these huge speakers, and the substantial amount of money into amps and music?
What are your opinions of the Yamaha 2000 Series? Were they worth the money? Do they deliver the sound you want?
I have a Yamaha RX-797 which has very similar power, but not remotely the same build quality. Still, I think mine gets the job done nicely.
Thank you for the info. I have tried my MG's in GRF enclosures built based on the original schematics and they did not sound too good at all. See my other movie for DIY photos and comments. Back horn simulations based on the measurements of the box looked quite bad, so this just indicated that what I've heard is probably right. Saying this, I never heard them in the original enclosures.
Never heard any Vitavox speakers but I would love to :)
Take care,
Brastu
What a sweet sound.
You're wrong on the 15" Golds, they need a beefy solid state amplifier to drive them properly, but I do agree on Yamaha.
Thanks for sharing pretty cool
Smooooth! Is there a compression driver behind the dust cap? Sounded better without the grills. I wonder if the exposed sides on the front of the enclosures cause any audible diffraction? Sounds sweet anyway.
beautiful speaker
Love the Music it Slithers!
Серьезные колонки!
The Ferrari Ford comparison does not hold for speaker cables because it’s only the resistance, capacitance, and inductance which are important to
the cable, being that the price for the best measurable results are not much different from the worst, the difference being the mass, rather than the quality of the material used.High end cables are not based on scientific or measurable principles.
Excellent work, I have a pair of Monitor Gold in very good condition, I want to build the GRF gabinets, use an tube amplifier made by my with 6L6-G vintage. Regards.
Nice setup mate! Im a lil confused tho...I dont see any mids or tweets...are they full range or something?
Sorry im not too familiar with these things
Cheers
I remember shopping for my first hi fi stereo system circa 1980. I listened to a pair of Tannoys at Harvey's Warehouse (Loved that store). I think the Tannoys were the best sounding speakers I ever heard. The salesman exp lained how the one speaker worked worked as compared to speakers with separate woofer tweeter and midrange. I suppose the Tannoys were too expensive because uI settled for a pair of Cerwin Vegas.
I will say European and American speakers sounded far superior to Japanese speakers. Never heard a Sony ,Yamaha, or Pioneer speaker that wasnt midrangey.
Hey Steve. Thanks for your comment. There is indeed something very appealing about their sound. In my experience there are not the be speakers I ever heard, but I I could have multiple speakers, I'd definitely have a set of these.
I know that Japanese speakers do not have a great reputation among British HiFi enthusiasts, and I would agree with it in 75% of cases. However my jaw has dropped when I heard the Yamaha NS-1000 for the first time. As a matter of fact I purchased a pair and use them as my main speakers now. All the best!
how do these speakers produce the higher frequencies?
Coaxial construction. Have a look at the fourth image in here: audionostalgia.co.uk/tannoy-monitor-gold-15-review/
There is a little bit of description of how this works in the "Speaker Info" section.
Very musical. Thanks.
I am yet to be convinced that these are not the best speakers ever created (within reason). My dad had a pair in Lancaster cabinets, which made any modern high end speaker played against them sound broken - really, for those that have not heard these speakers, they are something to behold. He sold them when one of them unfortunately developed a rattle.
Nice setup, but I like the speakers without the covers. I like the look of the exposed speakers.
Very nice cabinets!
I was thinking - where are the tweeters?! I could hear the trebble - Then I read the description. is there a fine mesh or grille in the centre of the big drivers? My friend had some small dual concentric speakers in the 80s and the stereo field was wider than i've ever heard since - do these have that benefit?
Son preciosos y deben sonar impresionantemente bien, te envidio Brastu
Beautiful sound! Are those Tannoys horn-loaded? Initially I thought they may be single-point drivers, but I see nothing in the middle of the speaker to suggest that. Those upper-mids and highs have to be coming from something!
Sound Great, see them fetch alot on Ebay,always wondered what they would sound like used for a PA ..or Even speakers installed in a Fender tube amp for guitar... a "live"sound source...thanks for Posting :)
sadly it doesn't really work (I tried it) - they sound too dark and peaky in the lower mid range to use as a guitar amp speaker. No idea what they would sound like in a pa. Also tried warfdale's version of these speakers in a guitar cab with the same results - they where ok and sometimes (with a strat) sounded really good, but not consistantly good. The warfdales are 1967 12inch dual concentrics and sound very similar to the tannoys - can't remember when the tannoys where made. Both weighd a ton !
mordokch
Wow, Thanks for the Reply ;:-) ..That saves me some time and $$$ ..I do love to experiment tho, the JBL D120f and d131 is so far my fav speaker for guitar, along with Phillips and Early 1950's late 40's Jensen's..
if we were to Jam and didn't have a PA I always wire up to the stereo using a mixer , bet these would sound All and then SOME :)
beatleme2 Yeha I'm i love with the jbl d120f at the moment - would love to lay my hands on a pair but there are non for sale in the UK right now, and looking at what they have sold for in the past I KNOW thy will be expensive when the do show up. There is a jenson for sale though :)
Sweet man! Very sweet.
You're obviously not married! I would never be allowed anything that big.
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if you let you wife decide for your life.. yes indeed
***** David you're a good guy.. i think that setup is modest and classy though. my wife was impressed with my audio chill-out space, when we first got together. she had to accept right away that all the equipment and records come with the package.. or no deal.. those speakers were not an impulse purchase.
Jeez vladlashing... it must suck to be you.
It's called "social" media for a reason.
***** Yes because I find your senseless banter tiring and ridiculous I am unsocial. That or you are uninteresting. Your man against woman talk is folksy trash that needs to die. Thats my opinion.
vladlashing If you're unsocial then stop using social media. Say what you want in reply... I'm done with this silly tirade.
Your speakers and stereo sound amazing....I am a fan of Diana Krell as well and have big JBL 4345s with 18" woofers and I'm surprised at how these speakers fill the room with sound. Nice room looks like fun. BTW I'd drive the Ferrari too! Sexy Sexy Sexy......
/ your tannoy are a real temptation /
For what we need Speakers with Phasedistroying Crossovers when this Superspeaker make all the Sound with only one Speaker?
Wow really Super i want to hear that in my Rooms!
Volker, unfortunately these Superspeakers are a "2-in-1"-Design, and they - unfortunately - need "Phasedistroying Crossovers".
But who the hell cares as long as they are 15" Dual Concentrics, nevertheless whether they're Silvers, Reds or Golds and sound like you're in heaven...
wow these are monsters
Great sound.
hi, nice set. but what with bandwidth? i assume those 15" are cut quite low because of ther dimensions???
cheers
Your transplant coordination unit very impressive player
Magnificent speakers, puts my cerwin d-5s to shame, though they are fun to listen to. I don't have any large high fidelity speakers, just maybe my pair of axioms if they would count as that.
I've myself a pair of Tannoy Dual Concentric Monitor Gold 15'' Could suggest a good amplifification for them?
Interesting set up there. How much rms you feeding them
You are wrong. There are just three things which effect the signal, inductance, resistance, and capacitance, that’s it. Cable typical of the kind used to connect your cooker to the mains (3 core 16 Amp) will have measurable values which are as good as cables costing tens of thousands of dollars per meter. The rest is just subjective, not based on anything one can measure. But if you know of any other phenomena as yet unknown to science, I would be happy to hear how they affect the signal.