A dryer with the side panels removed is a good start or mount the dryer drum in your own frame ... the tub is a mortar mixing tub sold in HD (about $30) ... just swap the motor unit for something that turns slower ,, a variable speed stepper motor from a commercial restaurant toaster would give you the motor the chain and both gears. ME? I'd buy some $7 kiddie pools a styrofoam panel to float pots in and a small pond pump... lighting of your choice .. total WAY under $100
@JohnCougarFish23 The water sits in a reservoir on the floor. It uses a 400GPH pump that is set up to a timer. In the seedling stage the timer is set to one watering cycle for a 1 hour duration every 3 days. When the plants get larger this increases to 1 hour per day and then the plants are mature I set the timer to run for one hour twice a day. As the water pumps into the upper reservoir and gets to a certain height it starts draining.
Oh, and the driving wheel can just be a (we're talking opening a drawer and taking whatever here) sturdy cylindrical glass/plastic jar with griptape on and a lid modified to hold the powerbar.
@TheYve123 This is difficult to answer. The vertical light from hydro grow worked very well and you can see how it performed in a 6 week test. It uses 420 watts. Two - 125watt compact fluorescents also work well in the unit for herbs and greens, but the vertical led light worked much better for fruiting. The other option is two HPS/Metal halide lamps of 250watts each, this worked great for fruiting - but heat is an issue.
Great idea. Unfortunately the cost is really high. They could have engineered this such that the cost was not so stupid high. Profit from ideas in different way. Tired of good ideas with stupid price to pay.
Andy E lmao think outside the box this expensive wheel will allow you to grow more in a limited area. In a room with tables if you put these machines in you will produce a lot more end product(depends on room size, but you can get 25-100% more. So ya they’re expensive but you shouldn’t be talking shit, any smart and real grower will know the potential of these machines.
@TheYve123 Continued.... I guess it depends on what you plan on growing and how much you want to spend. My 1st choice is the vertical light from hydro grow, followed by 2 - 125w compact fluorescents, followed by a metal halide/hps system. I mostly grow greens inside the wheel, I am however trying out 80 cherry tomato plants just to see what happen!
@jaspertodd Just wait to you see the LED light I rigged up in this unit. I will be posting the video tonight, I am just putting some finishing touches on it!
There is no reason for this to be SO expensive. Construction wise it is made from normal materials most you can get at ACE hardware. The motor looks like a BBQ rotisserie motor..
I agree...its beyond absurd. I thought the Tower Garden was pricey enough but this is x3 nearly x4 more expensive and I'm not sure it's better. Yes, because of the dimensions it might be a better fit In my own case I live in a small flat and this could be cute but the price is certainly prohibitive
Kudos on the successful hydroponic broccoli! for the broccoli, you used LEDs, correct? How do you feel about using LEDs in a Volksgarden? What considerations, if any, caused you not to recommend or use LEDs with the Volksgarden? Was it a pure cost/benefit analysis, or did other factors affect your decision and recommendations as well?
+privateeyewhite Expensive? Expense is about perceptions. How many non-rich people spend a few thousand on TV's, DVD collections, Computers, Video Games, Cell Phones, designer labels and other things that we really don't need? Spending 1500 to 2500 on a hydroponic systems grows food is a wise investment and people should view it as an appliance which gives back to you. For example this particular system grows 80 plants such as lettuce, basil, cilantro, oregano, kale etc. Buying 80 heads of lettuce with living roots can easily cost a person 3.00 a head for produce that is from non-gmo sources that does not contain pesticides, herbicides, or fungicides. Lettuce can be grown in 4 week cycles so each month a person would save 240.00 off of their grocery bill and within in 10 months, the system paid for itself. Each month after the system now saves you 240.00 a month. So is it expensive? It's all about perceptions and what people set as priorities.
That's shocking. I see that it's currently at USD$2124 which is still x3 nearly x4 as much as a Tower Garden, and I thought the Tower Garden was quite pricey already. How is this rationalised?
Even though I like this thing, I would never pay the money for it, just too expensive. A trip to the hardware store and a little bit of basic know how will get you one something similar for a fraction of the price.
It's winter now, and I cannot use my window space as its cold on the windows-sill. Som I have no other choice but to use artificial lightening. Also, I live in a poor country. But, I have a spare room 2.5 to 5 meters. Are there smart guys here to help me find the way out? PS I have a growbox with 150x2 HID lamps and one sufficiently working vent. The growbox is made of an old wardrobe, but the lamps and electric devices cost me half-a-salary. The box's is 85x55x165 cm. What can I do with it? What is the fastest and most expensive plant which can be profitable this winter? Any would do; my family are omnivorous. Cheers.
2500$ for this is insane, they overcomplicated the whole design when the same effect could have been achieved for less than 1/10th of the price. As the handy-man I am I can do this with about 1/10th or less parts too. 1. Bicycle gearcogs to make the motor spin at the desired speed, since not all motors come with settings. 2. Something that holds water. 3. A gardening pump. As for the wheel, just go nuts with a drill on an old laundry basket of the appropriate size and shape.
Great, yet madly expensive (although +1). The device of this kind called Roto Grow costs 5.500$. I can buy half a flat here for this money. How can it be profitable other than for growing pot? (until they catch you for selling it). Really, I am curious. I can buy 5.000 lettuces here in winter for this price (when they are like 4 times more expensive). Isn't renting or establishing your own greenhouse more profitable? Ukraine.
+inyazserg Sergey Larin Thinking..... Looks like using a plastic drum and stainless steel hardware would do it. More expensive and time consuming method would be composite with potable water approved epoxy/foam/glass.
+Tad Johnson aha! Thanks for the draft. No, there is no possiblity to spend much money in Ukraine. Good, there is the cheap method, as you say. All right, a plastic drum can be found, but then there is the rotating system. Those cogs and belts, and the motor. If they are not expensive, than the DIY Roto Gro can be built. I mean, what if there were those circumstances when it's time to save, and you can't do it just for hobby. Do you understand what I mean? PS That is how I see the tray: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/af/85/0a/af850a7a8956c585a7fcf985f7712c48.jpg
+inyazserg Sergey Larin I think it's possible with just a simple clock gear motor from the junkyard. But also the strength along the barrel length needs some thought since it will need to handle at least a few pounds at each station along it's length which will be about 40Kg. Since it would be balanced when full then the motor does not have to work too hard, and with 50:1 gearing it should be no problem. I will draw this up in 3-d so we can see how it will look.
@w8mk would the wheel work if I used only 30-45 plants on it? I was thinking of having 30-45 clones staying in veg under fluorescents, while i have 30-45 plants in the wheel flowering with HPS lights, so when I harvest I can just immediately put my 30-45 clones in the wheel and start flowering them. Would that work? and with 30-45 plants how long do you think it would take to harvest and what yield could i get?
+inyazserg Sergey Larin I`m sure it can be done, its not that complex. As an example, the drive looks to be a simple mirrorball motor/gearbox with a sprocket attached. They`re typically available in 0.5rpm and 1rpm versions .. very cheap ;)
Extremely high price for a product that has so many project defects. The alignment for the motor and the device cant be done properly, very poor quality for the parts. The light system is not done by led. Good idea executed by poorly prepared engineering. US200 could be to much.
Speaking of fruit, and what defines it, no offense intended, but this may seem a bit harsh... I prefer to share my knowledge and well being with my fellow man. Perhaps I may be surrounded by others willing to share, as I'd help my fellow man flourish, rather than use his ignorance against him, the result being, my being surrounded by the enlightened, as opposed to the dependent and foolish.
Is OMGlab Omega Grow Labs? THE PRICE IS INSANE, only idiot public school teachers paying with MY money would buy that.. You want a cheap reliable hydro system?? Think it can't be done for $625 (25% Omega price). I'll do it with 2 kiddie pools ($15) , 4 cinder blocks $5, $20 in tubing and fittings, $50 for a pond pump plus a $12 24 hour timer. Full spectrum fluorescents $200, mylar will be $5 for 5 windshield sun reflectors. Miracle grow $15, styrofoam sheet $15, pots $10 BEEN THERE DONE THAT
Thank you so much for creating and sharing this outstanding product overview and tutorial!
A dryer with the side panels removed is a good start or mount the dryer drum in your own frame ... the tub is a mortar mixing tub sold in HD (about $30) ... just swap the motor unit for something that turns slower ,, a variable speed stepper motor from a commercial restaurant toaster would give you the motor the chain and both gears.
ME? I'd buy some $7 kiddie pools a styrofoam panel to float pots in and a small pond pump... lighting of your choice .. total WAY under $100
@JohnCougarFish23
The water sits in a reservoir on the floor. It uses a 400GPH pump that is set up to a timer. In the seedling stage the timer is set to one watering cycle for a 1 hour duration every 3 days. When the plants get larger this increases to 1 hour per day and then the plants are mature I set the timer to run for one hour twice a day. As the water pumps into the upper reservoir and gets to a certain height it starts draining.
Oh, and the driving wheel can just be a (we're talking opening a drawer and taking whatever here) sturdy cylindrical glass/plastic jar with griptape on and a lid modified to hold the powerbar.
@TheYve123
This is difficult to answer. The vertical light from hydro grow worked very well and you can see how it performed in a 6 week test. It uses 420 watts. Two - 125watt compact fluorescents also work well in the unit for herbs and greens, but the vertical led light worked much better for fruiting. The other option is two HPS/Metal halide lamps of 250watts each, this worked great for fruiting - but heat is an issue.
Great idea. Unfortunately the cost is really high. They could have engineered this such that the cost was not so stupid high. Profit from ideas in different way. Tired of good ideas with stupid price to pay.
Andy E lmao think outside the box this expensive wheel will allow you to grow more in a limited area. In a room with tables if you put these machines in you will produce a lot more end product(depends on room size, but you can get 25-100% more. So ya they’re expensive but you shouldn’t be talking shit, any smart and real grower will know the potential of these machines.
I think you could make these out of an old washer or drier and a florescent grow bulb! They need a way to take the plants out automatically.
Thats awsome.I would love one day, to own one of these badboys
Simple enough. This could be solar powered and grow the herbs for the whole family.
@TheYve123
Continued.... I guess it depends on what you plan on growing and how much you want to spend. My 1st choice is the vertical light from hydro grow, followed by 2 - 125w compact fluorescents, followed by a metal halide/hps system. I mostly grow greens inside the wheel, I am however trying out 80 cherry tomato plants just to see what happen!
How well did that turn out?
@jaspertodd
Just wait to you see the LED light I rigged up in this unit. I will be posting the video tonight, I am just putting some finishing touches on it!
There is no reason for this to be SO expensive. Construction wise it is made from normal materials most you can get at ACE hardware. The motor looks like a BBQ rotisserie motor..
I agree...its beyond absurd. I thought the Tower Garden was pricey enough but this is x3 nearly x4 more expensive and I'm not sure it's better. Yes, because of the dimensions it might be a better fit In my own case I live in a small flat and this could be cute but the price is certainly prohibitive
Just order mine today will be back to watch these again ! How often do you change the water from the resovoir?
Kudos on the successful hydroponic broccoli! for the broccoli, you used LEDs, correct? How do you feel about using LEDs in a Volksgarden? What considerations, if any, caused you not to recommend or use LEDs with the Volksgarden? Was it a pure cost/benefit analysis, or did other factors affect your decision and recommendations as well?
Can this be 3d printed and open-sourced?
Nice, but how is it that it costs over USD$2k?
That's more than 3 times the Tower Garden
What a great hobby for the rich people :)
+privateeyewhite Expensive? Expense is about perceptions. How many non-rich people spend a few thousand on TV's, DVD collections, Computers, Video Games, Cell Phones, designer labels and other things that we really don't need? Spending 1500 to 2500 on a hydroponic systems grows food is a wise investment and people should view it as an appliance which gives back to you. For example this particular system grows 80 plants such as lettuce, basil, cilantro, oregano, kale etc. Buying 80 heads of lettuce with living roots can easily cost a person 3.00 a head for produce that is from non-gmo sources that does not contain pesticides, herbicides, or fungicides. Lettuce can be grown in 4 week cycles so each month a person would save 240.00 off of their grocery bill and within in 10 months, the system paid for itself. Each month after the system now saves you 240.00 a month. So is it expensive? It's all about perceptions and what people set as priorities.
@@w8mk still toooooo expensive!
Creating this system is not difficult for me. But I have no experience in growing plants, how does this type of cultivation work?
Well done video, thanks
When we got this unit in my classroom over a year ago is was priced at 1999.00. I was surprised to see the price increase to 2500.00.
That's shocking.
I see that it's currently at USD$2124 which is still x3 nearly x4 as much as a Tower Garden, and I thought the Tower Garden was quite pricey already.
How is this rationalised?
I could probably print this out in a 3d printer for a quarter of that price.
Have you?
Even though I like this thing, I would never pay the money for it, just too expensive. A trip to the hardware store and a little bit of basic know how will get you one something similar for a fraction of the price.
thanks for the how to video. The system is really expensive. But I am considering buying one. Does it work well?
HPS/MH is superior if you don't have heat problems. :) Especially on tomato plants.
Interesting design.
What is the music-artist?
Look forward to seeing more... Tx.
awesome
It's winter now, and I cannot use my window space as its cold on the
windows-sill. Som I have no other choice but to use artificial
lightening. Also, I live in a poor country. But, I have a spare room 2.5
to 5 meters. Are there smart guys here to help me find the way out? PS I
have a growbox with 150x2 HID lamps and one sufficiently working vent.
The growbox is made of an old wardrobe, but the lamps and electric
devices cost me half-a-salary. The box's is 85x55x165 cm.
What can I do with it?
What is the fastest and most expensive plant which can be profitable this winter? Any would do; my family are omnivorous.
Cheers.
2500$ for this is insane, they overcomplicated the whole design when the same effect could have been achieved for less than 1/10th of the price. As the handy-man I am I can do this with about 1/10th or less parts too.
1. Bicycle gearcogs to make the motor spin at the desired speed, since not all motors come with settings.
2. Something that holds water.
3. A gardening pump.
As for the wheel, just go nuts with a drill on an old laundry basket of the appropriate size and shape.
how does it water em? is the reservoir at the bottom of the wheel it rotates through or what?
Great, yet madly expensive (although +1). The device of this kind called Roto Grow
costs 5.500$. I can buy half a flat here for this money. How can it be
profitable other than for growing pot? (until they catch you for
selling it). Really, I am curious. I can buy 5.000 lettuces here in
winter for this price (when they are like 4 times more expensive). Isn't
renting or establishing your own greenhouse more profitable? Ukraine.
+inyazserg Sergey Larin Make your own for $200. Would not be difficult.
Tad Johnson
Sweet dude! You have given me some hope I'll get this cool shiny thing. Help me. How do I DIY?
+inyazserg Sergey Larin Thinking..... Looks like using a plastic drum and stainless steel hardware would do it. More expensive and time consuming method would be composite with potable water approved epoxy/foam/glass.
+Tad Johnson
aha! Thanks for the draft. No, there is no possiblity to spend much
money in Ukraine. Good, there is the cheap method, as you say. All
right, a plastic drum can be found, but then there is the rotating
system. Those cogs and belts, and the motor. If they are not expensive,
than the DIY Roto Gro can be built. I mean, what if there were those
circumstances when it's time to save, and you can't do it just for
hobby. Do you understand what I mean?
PS That is how I see the tray: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/af/85/0a/af850a7a8956c585a7fcf985f7712c48.jpg
+inyazserg Sergey Larin I think it's possible with just a simple clock gear motor from the junkyard. But also the strength along the barrel length needs some thought since it will need to handle at least a few pounds at each station along it's length which will be about 40Kg. Since it would be balanced when full then the motor does not have to work too hard, and with 50:1 gearing it should be no problem. I will draw this up in 3-d so we can see how it will look.
genius
@w8mk would the wheel work if I used only 30-45 plants on it? I was thinking of having 30-45 clones staying in veg under fluorescents, while i have 30-45 plants in the wheel flowering with HPS lights, so when I harvest I can just immediately put my 30-45 clones in the wheel and start flowering them. Would that work? and with 30-45 plants how long do you think it would take to harvest and what yield could i get?
For the price it seems like the materials are on the flimsy side.
No la encuentro asi de pequeña
About every 2 weeks.
Why do you need water pump to grow plants?
Does anyone know any cheap ideas to DIY a similar thing?
+inyazserg Sergey Larin
I`m sure it can be done, its not that complex. As an example, the drive looks to be a simple mirrorball motor/gearbox with a sprocket attached. They`re typically available in 0.5rpm and 1rpm versions .. very cheap ;)
Quality
what are the 50 clothespins i got with my volksgarden for?
where do you buy them? can you get a small one cheaper?
What material in this video? Help me please
where do i can buy those instruments?
толстого бармалея надо выписать сюда - пусть мастер класс проведёт
Come on!!! $2500 REALLY!!! It's an awesome machine but my god, $2500 is almost criminal
maybe things U do with it.
So what happened? Update us please ! 8)
the green plastic pots with wool in them go on the inside.. lol never grow anything like that lmao
+Mr Bolens Is it becasue it's not going to prove profitable?
the things you do with it can be criminal too
Funny price.
Extremely high price for a product that has so many project defects.
The alignment for the motor and the device cant be done properly, very poor quality for the parts. The light system is not done by led. Good idea executed by poorly prepared engineering. US200 could be to much.
Can you grow weed with this machine?
LOL! So, where are the veggies?
сынок , ты мудак ггг
Speaking of fruit, and what defines it, no offense intended, but this may seem a bit harsh... I prefer to share my knowledge and well being with my fellow man. Perhaps I may be surrounded by others willing to share, as I'd help my fellow man flourish, rather than use his ignorance against him, the result being, my being surrounded by the enlightened, as opposed to the dependent and foolish.
Is OMGlab Omega Grow Labs? THE PRICE IS INSANE, only idiot public school teachers paying with MY money would buy that.. You want a cheap reliable hydro system?? Think it can't be done for $625 (25% Omega price). I'll do it with 2 kiddie pools ($15) , 4 cinder blocks $5, $20 in tubing and fittings, $50 for a pond pump plus a $12 24 hour timer. Full spectrum fluorescents $200, mylar will be $5 for 5 windshield sun reflectors. Miracle grow $15, styrofoam sheet $15, pots $10
BEEN THERE DONE THAT
Seriously?? LMAO!
Sucks!