The Secrets Of Making Money On Social Media Through Multi-Level Marketing: Ellie Undercover
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2024
- Journalist Ellie Flynn goes undercover to investigate 'multi-level marketing', an online selling scheme that promises people the chance to earn big money as 'influencers' by selling products, often through social media.
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Every time I see a friend on my Instagram has stated talking about "needing to recruit some boss babes" "for amazing opportunity's" "Living your best life"
Me: Aw shiiiiit. Here we go again
Garth marenghis darkplace, nice
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 the brainwashing is intense.
jsorro well since i am not that much into morons, if I see somebody falling for this shit, i usually unfriendly them.
I have friends that do that. All the MLM sale pitch sounds the same.
Me too
This should be a 1.5 hour documentary at least.
Kerstin McLean it is! It's on BBC iPlayer
I watched on bbc Iplayer its 1 hour documentry
@@claireeverard2369 WHich is only available for the UK.. So where we, Russians, can watch the full documantery? I`ve watched one in Russian but I don`t trust it and wanted to watch an original one..
@@Plaksa2004 get a VPN
Wow.. It's a cult. Not knowing what your getting into and then being abused because you want to leave.. Great vid opened my eyes..
@White Man I guess you have never been in a bad spot. intimidated, overwhelmed or afraid.
Pyramid schemes are illegal. Network marketing has been around for over 100 and is regulated by the direct selling association which is the equivalent of the financial conduct authority to banks. The idea of network marketing is that instead of paying corporations to sells products, the company pay distributors for doing just that. There are rules and regulations which all distributors should adhere to but unfortunately there are people are there who don’t abide by these rules, until they get caught out. You cannot be successful yourself unless you help other people be successful, this is where you train other people to do the same as you to make an income and the company pays you a thank you check for helping those become successful, this comes directly from the company. Much in the same way as corporations paying sales managers bonuses. Your other income is by selling products to your clients and making commission, the same as many sales people do. Network marketing companies don’t pay for advertisement, instead they use this money to pay the distributors a lucrative income. I hope that clears this up.
Diego Rodrigues thank you diego! I hope this enlighten people up. :)
@White Man you need to remember that these people are isolated from their family and friends if they dont support them. By removing those people from your life the mlm counterparts become your closest confidants. You realise whats happening, the brainwashing, the isolation, the manipulation and they turn on you like snakes. The people you were manipulated into trusting are now your biggest enemy. And you have no one.
It's not a cult. To compare it to that is an insult to people who have made it out of cults. Look, not everybody is cut out to sell. You can't blame an entire company because you failed and don't have the strength and backbone to move forward.
I lost $300+ on an mlm "selling" coffee. I drank it all myself 😩😩 the worst is that my family was the ones who recruited me. I never talked to them again.
Must admit that this made me laugh. 😅😅 Forgive them and move on.
@@leshcamp7281 its sad. I literally have no family in this country then all of the sudden my moms cousin find me on fb and visited me, convinced me i would make 1000s$ took 300$ from me a single mom of 2 i was 22 so i was clueless. It was sad i was like family yay 🙌 but no. I think that's very messed up. I dont feel like they owe me anything but i wont look for them either.
@@estephanyrios7700 That's really terrible.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Forgive them and yourself. Pick up the phone. Give them a call. They and you may have been desperate to get out of the misery of the 9-5. Scam.
I ALMOST got sucked into a MLM. I feel so stupid admitting it but I honestly was brainwashed! Good thing i did my research before wasting money
Ree Lala I am glad you got away it was recently been pushed to me as well but my research stopped me from falling
Ree Lala, don't feel stupid. They depend on you not knowing what the deal is. Back in the day, it was Amway and AL Williams and I'm sure there were other schemes before that.
Don't feel stupid. When people sell you something, Alot of the time it looks legitimate.
Yes don’t feel guilty joining it, that’s their business model..brainwashing people. If anything u should feel good that u realized it was a scam so early;)
Don't beat yourself up for almost falling into it. These people know what to say to lure people in. The good thing is, you did your own research before going into it.
*IM WORKING MY BUSINESS* = I’m scamming my friends, family and neighbors
Tru
The weird thing is that MLMs have always been a thing, but I thought the prevalence of the internet would quash MLMs, because the truth about how they *don’t* make money for anyone (other than the people at the top) would be so widely disseminated that it would render MLMs extinct.
Instead, it’s gotten even *worse.* Pretty much every other person I went to middle school with is trying to sell LuLaRoe or some other crap or recruit someone on Facebook.
I guess I overestimated the survival instincts and general intuition of others.
This is because the internet can shed light but it can't eliminate stupidity. There will always be stupid people.
David Ng Excellent point.
People seem to like the idea that they're the special one who can beat the status quo and make it - and the recruiters just feed that lie and feed vulnerable, lonely housewives (mostly) the lie that they're different, special and this is how they can make friends. They give them a family and threaten to remove it if they don't comply and shill.
@@snuffypop I agree. But its not only housewives. Its the thousands of people who are understandably unhappy about their work situation and dream of making it alone, living life without a boss, having a flexible schedule, etc. There are many young people in these, many men and women, with our without families. It can really affect anyone, like a cancer.
My exact sentiment. Assumed in 2019 MLMs would cease to exist BECAUSE of the internet.
it's a crime that they took bbc3 off air. the only bbc channel that spoke to the youth.
facts
Maybe it’s because most of this generation tends to watch it online anyway so they weren’t getting the views on the telly
@@missdionysius4675 good point
It had such interesting and eye opening documentaries. Who even watches bbc 4 on tv it has the same old boring history documentaries yet it’s still on tv
Because we don't watch 📺
What's sad is I just knew that Younique had to be in Utah. I recognize the region so easily. My girlfriend is an ex-mormon and MLMs are pushed heavily in the mormon church. Cults are disgusting and they ruin so many people's lives.
I just watched a story about Lula Roe and they said Lula Roe was started by a mormon couple and that MLMs were huge in Utah.
Utah is the only state with an affinity fraud registry, it's like a sex offender registry, only for people convicted of affinity fraud. That's how common white collar crime is there...
I'm a Mormon who has lived in Utah for a couple of years now. It is SCARY how many MLM companies there are, but it makes sense as to why. MLMs largely target stay at home moms and with so many Mormon families here, it's easy to find a woman who's looking to make more money for their family. And because the church really encourages entrepreneurship and hard work, a lot of people fall victim to the idea that if they just work hard enough, they'll make that money. The people who are in the church, or claim they are, and start these companies are despicable. Thanks to more light being shed on MLMs through documentaries and r/antimlm, I hope we start to see a change.
Makayla Serniotti definitely before I left the church the older women in charge of young women’s were in an MLM it was uncomfortable telling them no
Religion is a great way to manipulate people and, coupled with pyramid schemes or mlm, are dynamite for hoodwinking the public.
I worked for an MLM for 6 months. It was basically a cult, was told to cut out everyone in my life who didn't agree with me working there. If you didn't sell enough you were shamed for it at employee meetings. I was told it was all about recruiting new people to earn decent money, but I never got the chance to do that. My friend was fired for taking 1 day off a month to go and see her son who lived 80 miles away. I was fired because I took a week off, as I was in a car accident and had a bad head injury, so obviously I couldn't work. It was messed up, I can't believe it's legal tbh, because you're technically "self employed" the company can take no responsibility.
How can you get fired in a MLM ?
The MLM I worked for mostly involved selling door-to-door, we had to drive for up to 3 hours to the location we were selling in. I got fired and replaced because there were only limited spaces in the cars - Most of us didn't drive cuz we were 18-20 and couldn't afford a car on the commission salary.
As we were technically 'self-employed' I wasn't told "you're fired", just not to come in on Monday, as my manager wouldn't have given me a space in a car, so I couldn't work.
@@EmmasonYT ah ok, I understand now.
That makes sense, so you where abandoned by your team.
Well, that is bad leadership.
But, that shows a lack of commitment of your part too.
I never made myself dependable to others.
I always focused on myself.
Even by chosing my job.
Of course, when I find a real pro, who knows his stuff I follow that person.
Otherwise I find myself my own way.
You could save up money and go by bus to another location.
You don't need to follow the crowd.
You can simply do it by yourself, on your own.
And that is not only mlm.
Even if you want to start your own business, at the end of the day you must be the leader and show commitment.
But, it is indeed sad that the team left you behind.
That shows lack of leadership
£320 for a brush set?! No way
Lol is it even natural
Right!
And the brushes aren't even that good to be priced like that. They are nowhere near professional quality.
@@deltasaves You can pick up better quality brushes as any art supply store.
@@keithparkhill8546 For some things I literally buy them from an art store. For tightlining, a fine detail paint brush is better than any makeup brush out there, and 10x cheaper.
Nothing pisses me off more than people messaging me on fb or insta with them wanting me to join and sell or buy these stupid products
Or when you get invited to a party and show up realizing it's a MLM party disguised as a "Girl Night In!"
Just send them one of these videos
"Nu Skin" sounds like the mask that Patrick Bateman peels off his face in American Psycho.
This is for you: th-cam.com/video/O_F8VyQ08hg/w-d-xo.html
Bateman+Durden+Damien666
Multi level marketing is just a nicer way of saying a pyramid/Ponzi scheme
Do you know what a pyramid scheme is?
A job is a pyramid scheme loooool think logically. Few CEO’s at the top, Vice Presidents below them, managers below them and employees at the bottom (suffer the most) 😖😖
Actually, a Ponzi scheme has no product. Pyramid schemes do.
@@destinyij2097 that's not the point pyramid schemes are about recruitment, people make money by recruiting others to the scheme. That's why they're illegal because they don't work in the long term.
Shay Woulahan And neither does a job. They can let you go anytime they want so there’s no security or guarantee of anything. My business has real services such as a virgin media partnership and therefore there are Real services we sell. However, I understand there are some bad companies out there but not all are.
Lost my relationship with my sister to mlm.
She's on her "7 streams of income" tirade. Now she's pushing some financial bullshit and we literally never have a regular conversation ever and she's always dragging me about being "broke".
The sad part is she's actually a very talented nurse and is trying to quit that to scam full time. Ugh.
Is she actually making money ?
@@Spartanmomo My guess is if she always is complaining about growing broke, she wasn't turning an actual profit.
Lol not everything is a scam. She's probably making money online I know I am
Just dodged a MLM recruiter after meeting him twice in a local coffee shop. When I clearly told him that I am not interested, then he tried to make me a customer instead. Talking to a stranger in a grocery store was my biggest mistake. Lesson learned.
Talk to strangers in a strip club. Will turn better
Reminds me of Mary Kay and Avon. I went to a MK event once and they had the top earners speak to us about their success and then encouraged the women there to buy their starter kits for £100+. Wasn't worth the effort for me but quite a few women signed up.
I give Mary Kay a bit of a pass because some of their products have earned the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I buy a few MK things but I always bristle when I get the letter from the consultant lady telling me how many awesome vacations she goes on. I know she's subconsciously trying to recruit me to sell and it's so creepy. I just want moisturizer, lady.
Ever take a look at Mary Kay. Looks like a man. Lol.
Mary Kay is a bit different, you can make money. You get 50%.
I joined an MLM company when I was 17 I've always been into entrepreneurship and I've always wanted more for myself. I was your standard naive idiot. Fell for one and it was all my life was about for about a year and a half. Can't believe I got so consumed by something. It really is brainwashing
Andrew Gibbons don't feel embarrassed by it, these organisations are skilled individuals who use and abuse well meaning individuals. Use your experience to warn others and use your experience as just another learning point.
@@786Kay786 thanks mate, great way of looking at it
You were only 17, and from the looks of it you were very forward thinking. Me? I was still picking my nose and scratching my backside at that age.
I suggest you to take way the gold nuggets the company faces you.
Some of the training might help you in the future.
And just be great dull for the experience. See it positive and not negative and learn from it
@@FrayJay don't know about that but I appreciate it
Pyramid scheme it's just online and not meeting in a room like you they did in the 80s
Exactly
Some do both its a disease that spreads by exploiting insecurities
Just think of the sleazy, underhanded, low lifes that start these schemes. And what about the Mormon influence. Who are the REAL sleaze bags?
It's also like going to an office everyday from 9-5. Only difference is, with a "job" they can track your taxes easier otherwise its all a pyramid scheme.
There are video's online where they show essential oil parties etc.
hon you can buy a Chanel mascara for 30€!
Yeah n I dont even buy that so why would I buy younique crap. 😂😂
And you can get a perfectly great maybelline one for $7!
@@Lalalander89 I don't care what anyone says... I love the Maybelline mascara in the pink and green tube.....lol
That shit was everywhere in the late 70s and 80s. Everybody’s wife I knew was selling some crap and trying to recruit everybody. Hell even I got roped in to Nuva. Oh god was that a train wreck
The problem comes down to price. Since there is such a huge 'upline' that needs to get paid, there is no way that the product can be priced competitively. It is easy to find great deals online for a fraction of the cost, making it impossible for MLMs to compete. Most MLMs are 'me-too' companies that rarely offer anything that is better than what is currently on the market.
A few years ago I was sucked into an MLM company called Kyanï. I didn't lose people over it but I soon began to realise just how dishonest a business model it was, and how hardly anyone made real money from it. Don't fall for the hype people.
Me too.
I personally never tried to recruit someone.
People and family often asked me what I was doing, and I told them with honest. But always said that it is not easy, and that I don't want them to join until I know that I can make money or until I make real money just with customers.
I liked the product, but it is to expensive.
You need the fl triangle to get out the full potential.
But, if you want to help an entire family with this product, the family must spend hundred of $/€
Not many families out there can spend so much money.
And yes, the business model is not the best at all.
Some companies have slightly better models.
Kyanis is honestly the first one I never completely understood because it is so difficult, even those people who make already 5 figures could not explain to 100% how it works.
They just knew that money comes in
Great job! So many people need to know how this works.
Isn't it sad though that majority of people who fall for these network marketing schemes are women,though?
Gracy Rù I think that just goes to show how desperate we are to make our family life work, not because we are naive. Most of these women that go into MLMs are mothers that can’t afford daycare so they go looking for ways to make money from home or something that gives them flexibility so they can put their kids first. It’s a sad reality that we get scammed by these MLMs out of desperation.
@@annamedina2364 Yes...it's phycological....they prey on this exact demographic. Very sad ...because people /women are genuinely looking to take care of family as you said ... It's nothing glamorous...
I’d like to start an MLM. Where does on begin? That must be where the money is.
I hate seeing my mom involved in MLMs since I was in primary school. I hate how she easily believes the promises and gets excited for our family to finally be financially comfortable over and over again, only to spend so much money on products and trainings at the end of it.
Hm.. same thing happens around the world with MLM apparently, same promises and truths. Idk how these companies still legal everywhere
Mainly because they have products. If they were trying to do this without a tangible thing, that's when it would become illegal. It's really is to START an MLM and make money at the top and suck in people, but decent people don't want to do that. Others? Well...
Companies rule the world. They don’t live by normal rules. They say we comply to rules but forget to mention the money they paid with the new rules they themselves set..
So many of my mom friends are involved in some sort of MLM and they are completely blind to it. They think they are on their way to making tons of money, but they're really just on their way to being broke with a basement full of unsellable makeup and ugly patterned leggings. So sad.
Avon was big in my country when I was younger. This was before online shopping so I loved ordering from the catalogue. I know one guy whose mom did it as a full-time job and was a top seller. I tried it in college and didn’t make any money. Just lost my sign up fee to them 😞😞
Thank you for putting this video together, more people than you can ever imagine need to watch this.
I as a former personal trainer, believed in teaching people why NOT to buy into such companies promising quick fixes and explained the harm they can do to such vulnerable individuals such as those looking to lose weight.
Absolutely disgusting how they are still allowed to trade, tearing apart relationships through families, friends and leaving them with nothing.
We have trading standards in the UK, but somehow, they manage to bypass this agency and carry on with their despicable ethics.
MLM/ Multi level marketing/ pyramid etc needs more exposure. Maybe then our young and often vulnerable society can see the light and get out of there.
A family member of mine would always drag me to MLMs. Sometimes they would be inconspicuous but the general incentive of recruiting others beneath you to "start your own business" always gave it away (also the obligatory "pay $x amount to become a member/recruiter/etc.). More than enough cases happened where the family member would encounter the same people from past MLMs that crashed and burned. Biggest red flag. It's not business if they can't stay in a stable business.
Also, when they say it's an opportunity to start your own business, it's not. You are probably just an independent commissioned manager (at best if in terms of money) who is managing more suckers below you and the upper levels gaining the big bags. Why is the company earning millions of the people that sign up for them can't even earn a single buck most of the time?
Ahhhh I wish more videos like this had been out like nine years ago. I got into a few “your friend is basically in a pyramid scheme, please warn them before they lose money” conversations that obviously I shouldn’t have gotten myself into. I can never keep my big yap shut. Getting a few of these vids popping into their algorithms would have helped a lot of people.
It’s all a bummer especially since so many of the people getting into MLMs are already tight with money 🚽💸
We did forever living products and it was the biggest joke I've ever been a part of
@DJ FX I ended up looking like a right tit , trying to sell the crap products to my friends
I went to a recruitment interview and secretly recorded the whole thing!
Oh my friend tried to get me onto that nonsense years ago! Thank the lord she did not succeed!
When I was about 8 my mum joined Herbalife. I didn’t even know what a pyramid scheme was but I told her it was sketchy. She quit right away and didn’t sell a single thing to anyone. Spent about $50 on a box of overpriced chocolate bars and vitamins and that was about it. I’m so proud (and grateful) for her just stepping away like that. The psychological manipulation is so strong with these places. And they pray on finically vulnerable folks like we were.
its a scam. these things have been going on all over the world. in canada, for at least a couple decades non-stop
In Vancouver, I changed my major out of marketing because every “internship” I was interviewed for, was an mlm.
Like Amway. Although, the people who are in it are in furious denial of anything shady cult like stuff going on. It ridiculous trying to reason with them since they are financially, emotionally and mentally invested.
my mom was involved in amway. she's a very intelligent woman but when it comes to things like this she becomes weirdly gullible. its probably because she tries to always give everyone the benefit of the doubt. she isn't a malicious person, so its hard for her to imagine these charismatic salespeople as malicious individuals.
whats funny is what was the last straw (and the eye-opener) for my mother. amway vaguely claimed at an event that sandra bullock was just one of many faces for their makeup brand. i looked it up; of course it was false. a bullshit pyramid scheme piece of trash company like amway could never book someone like sandra bullock to advertise their dogshit makeup. i showed my mom the evidence. she got angry with amway, left, and never looked back.
thanks sandra.
@@beck242 my friend got sucked too. I want her out, but don't want to offend her. Any tips? She's a a good friend of mine and smart too. I almost got sucked, but i know something is fishy so i declined.
@@HarekaTysiri honestly, getting my mother to open her eyes was quite the process. it took a good while to convince her of their deceit, although i couldn't put a timeframe on it if i tried. i'd say maybe six or seven in-depth conversations about pyramid schemes, and even then she wasn't entirely convinced. like i said, the whole sandra bullock thing was the last straw for her.
the best thing to do is find credible sources (ironically enough, my mom was skeptical about where i got my information from, despite blindly following this enterprise) and present your friend with facts and statistics which prove the deceit. of course i don't know your friend, but my mom is very much a people-person, so one thing that helped was presenting her with reviews of amway from real customers and former employees (a.k.a. victims).
i also showed her how difficult it really was to make any amount of money through amway, and how, even if one did manage to somehow make money, it wouldn't be very much. meanwhile they advertise that their employees will be making gazillions in no time.
@@beck242 thanks for the info. I'll try hard to get her out. All the best ✌
@@HarekaTysiri I currently have a good friend that I am hoping will get out soon as well. She said "I am in too deep" and seems to recognize the issue. I tried to just give her the statistics, facts. Just be there for your friend when they hit rock bottom and are consumed by debt. That's what friends are for.
I was invited by a friend to such a "makeup party" without realizing what it was. I had heard about mlms before but I didn't know that this was one, I only realized when I got there. I ended up buying two totally over-prized items because I felt so bad for the woman since no one else bought anything that evening. Needless to say that "my friend" was just in it for the free products you get when you invite a representative home to market to your friends. I was really disappointed of her.
Question: If Younique doesn’t require people to carry inventory because people can buy their products online, WHY do they need their presenters? They could just advertise and sell online. But...then...they couldn’t be a pyramid scheme. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly, if the product had real market value, the company would sell it themselves. But they make more money selling the products to their own distributors rather than actual end customers. For them, a distributor is like a guaranteed consumer. And when they say "distributors don't have to buy inventory because they can just sell through the website" it is true, but then, the distributor pays for the right to that website. Another thing is, how can you sell a product you don't even know and haven't tried yourself? So what do they do? buy it for themselves so then they can tell people about it to appear more genuine. They also have to buy samples to send their customers. So in conclusion, the distributors don't have to keep inventory BUT have to pay for the website, have to meet a quota to remind active as a distributor, have to buy samples, have to buy the product to try it etc. The distributor is the actual customer.
@@heyjackieblue Except they don't give any money because guess what, the return on profit they make from distributors selling is WAY bigger than what the actual distributor ACTUALLY SELLING the product is getting (which is in 90% of the cases nothing).
@@heyjackieblue I took part in 2 MLM companies (Oriflame from Sweden and Forever from the US) I am now an independent social media marketer on MY OWN niche (3d modelling sculptors promoter) and if anything, these companies have taught me how to manipulate people into agreement.
NOBODY loves a product. That is simply a dumb statement. Selling others products is a dunce behaviour and a loser mindset. Have fun trying to convince your cousin she really needs this other moist creme instead of that one.
@@heyjackieblue Also. The kind of work it takes for a disabled person to recruit people in order to get a decent paycheck, is the same it would take him to be a paperwork employee in a birou. And don't tell me the difference is that he can work from home, because ok you can call people from home but how are you going to close with them if you don't manipulate them with the usual dumb pseudo scientific experiments they teach you to perform? If anything, being an MLM distributor is harder.
@@heyjackieblue If you do the math, these companies are overall less beneficial in what they do. Look at the statistics. They pretend they help, but for the majority of people it's a money waste, a time waste and in some cases a social problem.
I think my mom fell for one of these. They’re called saladmaster and she pretty much made me and her friends sit down during the talk about the products so she could get a freebie (even though I should have been studying for an exam).
OMG my mum did this aswell and left
Its so weird because when you go to the meetings the rooms full of people lying to each other , they make all These promises but none of them was making a penny 🤔
They protecc
They attacc
Herbalife is bacc
This is like six figure mentors, thank god I woke up early.
MLM is often very competitive, however most people don’t realize that affiliate marketing is a much better option where you can make more money with no investment, I’ve made a full-time living for years this way without pitching friends and family which is annoying and doesn’t work.
Not just 6 or 7 figures, but any money worth making you'll have to build a team. They make it very hard to make money.
Lol, this is true! I work for a business similar to what was mentioned and worked up into management. I was there for about 2 months and decided that management wasn't for me and I preferred to just sell the products because the pressure was too much. I was told that if I don't have the passion to see it through that's fine, but passion has nothing to do with it, being pressured to recruit is really not nice. I'm so much happier now xx
So important to see and hear. Too many of these companies on scal media preying on the vulnerable
4:27 looks pretty "pyramid"esque
The problem with a lot of these big Network Marketing companies is that they teach marketing methods that no longer work. They still teach people to reach out to their family and friends and approach random people in the streets.
I was in Herbalife back in 2012 and never made a penny simply because of their out dated marketing methods.
I made the switch to Affiliate Marketing (simply just promoting digital products) and I’ve been able to create a full time income doing that. If people really want to succeed with Network Marketing in 2019 and beyond they need to learn online marketing methods to build their Network Marketing business.
So true. We're doing it digital
The old "we're not one of those nasty MLMs" speech.
affiliate marketing and network marketing are two different things. No old or new marketing ways are going to help network marketing because the problem with MLMs is the business model. It's as simple as that. Either you get in at the beginning or you are assed out.
Of course they’re based in Salt Lake City 🙄🙄🙄 things are backwards there 🔄🚮
musicguy20 next to Scientology 😄😄
Salty sin city should be the rename.. 🤦🏽♀️
Lol Younique is based in Lehi, UT which is an hour away from Salt Lake. I drive by that building all the time on my way to work. For real tho, I swear Utah is a breeding ground for MLM's (Google it, its true!) because we have a higher population of stay at home moms (easy prey) who need to feel like "boss babes" and want to contribute financially somehow to their household, but sadly just flush their own money down the drain. Younique, Nu Skin,DoTerra, Young Living, Jamberry, etc all based here. It's so sad. I know so many friends/fam who get sucked into these. 😞
Jennelle L
Does it have to do with the Mormon culture?
Jennelle L I count that as SLC just as I count provo and the others as SLC lol. It’s cheaper for them to run business in those areas.
In Australia there are a lot of “Sales” job but when you get there they hire you on the spot, say come back tomorrow & when you do you realise that it’s Door to Door knocking selling anything & everything & you didn’t get paid unless you sold X amount in a week. Don’t sell that much, don’t get paid.
They did a terrible job hiding that girl's identity lol
This is exactly why I quit being a Tropic Skincare Ambassador
It’s like ACN, but this company offers mostly services such as, gas, electricity, mobile sims and etc.
In Pakistan, 3 years ago there was a guy who became my roommate. And he happened to be working for some MLM company. When I was talking to him I was shocked. The level of confidence he was showing was insane. He was telling me that after 1 year he will driving in a fancy car. Later he decided to take admission in Law courses. That's how he ended up.
This is why you get an education or a real job. All of these people thought they’d make easy money doing almost nothing.
fifikhalifa barry am education pays but a lot of people are going to uni and doing unless courses or courses where they’ll struggle to find a job.
its easy to say that, but schemes like this tend to target vulnerable people. i think the reason why so many women get sucked in is by the promise of being able to work from home, and stay with their kids (possibly because they might not be able to afford to work otherwise, due to the costs of childcare).
I had a “real” job. But then the company decided to reorganise. It’s a sneaky way to fire you. They rename my function and say, your job doesn’t exist anymore. But you can apply for the new function. Of course they already know who they want to keep and which employees to toss. Often the older ones, because they can replace them easily with younger and cheaper employees. Or what my company did, interns. Nice cheap labour and just keep 1 of the 5 team members so she can guide them. I worked 12 years for that company...some of my colleagues more than 30 years.
Some friend that I haven't talked to in years: "Hey, haven't talked to you in a while..."
Me: "Awww shit, here we go again."
I'm curious if these MLM skincare & cosmetic brands focus so much on recruiting people, what do they actually put in their products?
In order to legally operate a multilevel marketing company you need to have a product to sell if not it would fall into the category of a “ponzi scheme” and you’d be forced to close down the whole business.
The only way to make it in MLM is to convince your recruits to invest at least over 1000$ and teach them to do the same with their recruits. If you recruit 10 people in a month and convince them to invest over 1000$, that is a huge commission. It’s only by recruiting people you make money but recruiting is hard so it’s a 1% chance to make it. If you don’t recruit and only sell, you will make less than someone at minimum wage. Even the FTC is the USA says this: If you’re considering joining an MLM, know that some MLMs - even ones that aren’t pyramid schemes - may not be a wise investment.
If you have to pay to work...GET OUT
8:21 “... have strict policies in place... to ensure adherence with all local laws.” Wow! What a nice way to say legal pyramid scheme!! So proud!!
A no-name mascara for 30 quid, that's more expensive than a Chanel mascara. And the professor from Hamline explained it perfectly, if you replace buying product with just paying cash and you have the classic pyramid scheme
I have lost count at the amount of times I've been contacted by Herbalife this year alone.
People aren't transparent enough about MLM, although your success depends on knowing your product and focusing on your business. In MLM there is no get rich quick. That's the problem with the industry. People who dilute others. I love my company, although I can clearly see hundreds in MLM telling people how to make six figures quick... NO. work something you love for ten years and then it pays you back like any other real business.
Your 9-to-5 is a pyramid, and a scheme is something that does not offer a product or service. In all technicality that's how they get away with it.
Hey which company are you with?
So true!!!!
I will never forget my satisfaction telling off a girl in my DM's who made fun of me in college and also came to the restaurant I served to make fun of me. It was amazing.
Abby Trapp good for you!!!
A former colleague got into an MLM for qnet. For some reason he started fishing me into this and he never spoke about the product and always spoke numbers. This was the first clue and then these guys who are also the victims get so desperate that they make arrangements to get payments ASAP and from where I come from if someone asks money urgently you just stand up and leave. They will try their best to sell their product for example qnet was one Manchester city's sponsors years ago and they would use such examples to prove that they're legit. Be woke. Money is only earned through hard work.
I joined an MLM last year whilst on maternity leave i posted all over my social media did everything they told me and then when i wanted to leave because i realised i just wasnt comfortable with the tacky sales pitches, recruiting and smothering my friends and family they blocked me, unfriended me and said good luck in a 9-5 they actually laugh at and belittle people in a 9-5 i never understood it i thought it was about empowerment and helping people gain business and sales skills it definitely wasnt its alot of toxic positivity and if you dare say anything against it you shunned, told your a failure and you didnt try hard enough i gave every minute if my days to it you need a network to make money and with so so many doing it especially on social media only the rare few make it and they are the biggest recruiters with the biggest network like the popular mentality at a school. Awful ive learnt many lessons and will never do any other MLM with the pandemic im seeing so many joining them thinking they are earning money on the end you wind up losing money and alot of your time
The thing is 99% of all those who join MLM lack one thing which is sales skills; not only sales skills but professional sales skills. Everyone gets hyped up about home based business but yet even to build a sales skill is more than every sign up.
That's what these companies count on - it's about making a profit for *them* not you
Sales skills???? To pester someone ??? This is not about sales skills ...if they were light businesses they would want to teach or at least offer the option to learn .....how are people...women who are busy taking care of their families going to have sales skills??? Come on man.....are you out there scamming people ????
@@TwelvetreeZ Exactly...why do I need to know how many millions the top leaders have made...what kind of house.or car they drive and can't even see your first result???? .... I had a lot of friends who did a lot of these ...from ACN to Primerica......pleasel ...I hung out with them ....you spend a LOT of of money on travel.. hotel...food..seminars ...big rallies...got nothing to show for not ....
Lol, no you can't sell a product no one wants. Mlm products are junk.
Hey do you want to punch me in the face? I am not even talking about their "opportunity". I am just talking about selling the product the company gives them.
My question is where do they get the inventory? They must be buying or making cheap product with some sort of fancy packaging and then over charging because of the sales pitch and not the quality of the product. I always say "if I wasn't thinking about buying an item, what makes you think that coming to my door will make me want it?" I know what I want and "when" I need it. Unbeknownst to me, there was a girl at work who had started selling this type of stuff and another girl who had bought a lipstick was showing it to me, when I asked how much it was, I said "My God that's expensive!" while the MLM seller was sitting there. Needless to say she didn't try her pressure sales pitch with me.
In Brazil, we have an expression that says " if the offerings are too high, the saint will be suspicious". So, whenever they say " its an amazing opportunity", " You can make as much money as you like", " I have known people who became financially free in 18 months". This all sounds like bullshit to me.
Great document. Knew a lady who worked high up in Younique. She described it as "cultish, overpriced products, horrible owners etc" . She's in therapy trying to deal with the bad karma.
Direct sales / MLM are trash.
Katie ikr
People who complain about MLM are usually the ones not making money. MLM does require the skill of being able to sale but most people can't stomach rejection and are unwilling to suck before they become better. It takes most people a couple years before their business takes off but most aren't consistent enough to see results. I wish you would have interviewed someone who is actually doing well in MLM and not gone after a clearly biased opinion. I know people where MLM has changed their lives for the better. And if you don't think you are in a pyramid ask your boss how much he makes off your labor and then ask his boss how much he makes off of your boss's labor, and so on.
you dumb fuckstick
They basically employ people without paying them that should be illegal and politics should take their reponsibilities and act on that issue
She hit the nail on the head - MLMs need to be more transparent for people to realise what they actually are.
It's a business like anything else. If you can sell then the sky is the limit. If you can't sell then you will fail. Irregardless of the business structure it comes down to just that.
The people who are claiming negative experiences are people that made the devision to put money that they didn't have into a business that they weren't very good at. Bad call. It happens. It takes money to make money but it's not guaranteed.
Building a team of your own is crucial in any business. Not everyone has what it takes and those people get eliminated very quickly. It's not a cult.
Anyone who is questioning themselves if they should join an MLM: Read their Income Disclosure statements that they're required to provide annually.
There is a reason that usually 98-99% lose money or only break even: Only the people at the top of the pyramid actually make money.
If you're one of those 1% that has, you only did so by manipulating others that they too can have that dream.
I’m in an MLM and the reason I joined this one in particular...most of the top earners in the company don’t even have that high of a ranking. If a MLM is reliant on recruitment and NOT quality product and making personal sales, I don’t think it’s worth it. At least not for me... that’s when I get red flags.
I’ve been chastised for not wanting to save on taxes by running my own business. I’ve had peeps message me about a common friend pushing product, spewing company lines, asking me if she’s cuckoo. It’s affected relationships, on and on. I sold Watkins for a couple years and I was my biggest customer and the write off was diddly. Got out of it. The other one I tried was for myself, Pruvit, didn’t push it, quit cause it didn’t benefit me. Would love to hear more about the wonder supplements being peddled in the states.
same thing they did with LuLaRoe
That is so wild when she is like "you need a team." I'd be like, "didn't I just join her team?" "Can we take things one team at a time here?"
PLEASE make this documentary available in the USA.
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There is a lot of people that do Anti-MLM content and its really good however I do agree this would have been a better insigh from bbc3 including with younique's 'charity' work as they only want people who have never had a mental illness after their trauma of sexual abuse. I hope more documentaries look into MLMs to make people more aware of the risks.
I've been in a pyramid scheme, I'll never live that down :(
The Philippines is bombarded with MLM or Networking or Pyramid Scheme companies that are not strictly regulated for as long as a company has business permit. Even the products are not regulated as long as "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" are put on the labels.
@Anglitu TechTM What the hell are you talking about?
One company we all know is a pyramid is Mary Kay. Same exact thing. Recruit, Recruit, Recruit.🙅
All of your jobs are Pyramids 🤣🤣🤣
I had a message from a girl I used to go to school with. I havent spoken to her in years. She was really nice on the messages then I realized she was trying to recruit me to her MLM scheme she was involved with. I had a bad feeling about it straight away and stopped replying. The products that the MLM's sell are soooo expensive? You could go to boots / superdrug etc and get the same thing. It's sad because these girls that we knew that are sending out these messages have been sucked it and they are now pestering their friends list to get involved too:( I hope these girls won't get into alot of debt and can get out one day.
I worked for juice plus a few years ago, and it is a cult
Starting a business is hard. Learning new skills is hard. Yes it can be cult like, but so can any company organization. Network Marketing is the best opportunity for anyone from any background to create extraordinary levels of success. The personal development aspect of the business is the best side affect of taking part in Network Marketing. No matter what your business results, your life almost always improves as a result of being plugged into a positive supportive culture that does personal development. That is assuming you take part in the personal development side of things.
The bullying is not good. You don't need to cut people out completely nor should anyone ever be bullied for quitting. That's plain wrong. The removing people part is about creating boundaries in your life and surrounding yourself with like minded people. Usually it takes a while for your family or friends to come around to understanding and supporting network marketing, but if you work on yourself and take your business seriously, they usually come around to your support.
eye opening, incredibly taken aback.
I am pleased I came across this great investigative journalist! In my view, this topic is way more important than the tons of make-up reviews on the You Tube. I recommend watching this video to any teen, who is keen on make-up art and skin care! Thank you, Mrs. Flynn
This is so true about Younique
Amway & Quixtar...RUN!
I worked for juice plus for 2.5 years its the exact same
Around 2008 the UK High Court found that Amway was not an illegal pyramid scheme, however its findings, which are online, should persuade anyone not to get involved in this type of 'business'.
"There's a sucker born every minute"...... P.T. Barnum would have loved multi-level marketing......
I was asked to join an mlm recently, I'm a teenager and have never expressed an interest in their products or similar.
I hear that you are more likely to make a profit gambling then joining an MLM. How depressing.
I like how she asked one of her customer about the price. Now, she comes to know the potential of her buyers....👍👍...
okay so multi level marketing IS definitely a synonym for pyramid schemes scams
I do MLM and basically make the same as I put in. But as a physically disabled, legally blind person I couldn’t “get a real job.” I’m thankful the option is there because it makes me feel like I have purpose or can contribute to society. I do not attend the training crap or push sales. If people are not interested, so be it. I’ve also run businesses that are not MLM and continue to do so as well. I certainly would love to make enough money to start my respite, retreat, therapy centre but for now I have enough to eat more than bread and water and take care of my animals. Just a different perspective.