Man, wammy bars are a beautiful thing. But they can be a pain if you're like me and don't really know what you're doing. But hey. That's what channels like yours are for.
Thank you so very much! For a full tear down and reassembly video check out the others I. This series, “would a Floyd Rose by any other name play as sweet”. I don’t know what one I’ll do next. Maybe a Kahler.
@@guyprovost way back in the late 80s it was a small company and didn’t say EVH at all, it was still called dTuna. You saw it in little ads in guitar magazines mainly. I didn’t see them for a few years and then all the sudden it was the EVH dTuna. He did the same thing with rockenger trems before Floyd Rose.
@@REXYLAB WOW! Thanks for the trivia.... I had know idea... And I'm an old dude! Thanks! I was under the impression that Eddy "created" the gadget and used his company to sell it!
@@guyprovost I think they went to great lengths to make it appear that way. Ultimately it doesn’t matter though because EVH is responsible for the direction music took. He was our generation’s Hendrix.
Thank you, I totally encourage you to check out my entire channel but this might be of particular interest to you. Would A Floyd Rose By Any Other Name Play As Sweet? th-cam.com/play/PLrFyjrwqOCJzECnaTZv2MhFZak4fdkWMf.html
I agree, it is easier to do that but then other issues pop up. This is why I use a 7 string or a hard tail with a Hipshot D tuner if I want to tune to D.
Gotoh 1996T has more range on the fine tuners than a Floyd as far as I'm aware. That's what I do with my Gotoh. I have mine set with a trem stop, and I spend most of the time in drop tuning, but it's very easy to tune it to standard.
I put the ball end thru the tuner because the string will usually always break at the bridge saddle…then you can quickly unwind to give some slack to feed it back into the saddle…lock the string back down retune …and Bob’s your uncle👍
You can still do that without the ball end at the string post. But, if you regularly break your string at the saddle there is probably a burr on your saddle or something else wrong. I maintain, there is zero advantage to stringing your guitar that way. If you do it because you like it for some reason that’s one thing, but there is no advantage to having the ball ends at the headstock.
I am so happy it helped you! If you have other things you want to know tell me and I’ll make a video about how to do it if it’s in the scope of what I do.
@Rexylab cool deal! Also if my bridge came as a slight float from the store. Is there a way to flush it to the body like yours in this video without too much trouble? Floyds current float is about .4 or so centimeters above the body
@@DC7ify sure, the posts on either side of the bridge just need to be screwed down towards the body. Carefully screw them down and you will get it just right.
Does dropping the trem post down affect the overall action height? Or is the neck pocket low enough so that the string height is good (no notes choking out during big bends, for instance)?
There's actually a video with Duane Baron (the guy that invented the String Stretcha) or EVH's old guitar tech I can't recall which atm... But he slides it down the strings. That's how it's supposed to be used. He actually recommends having more than one on hand when doing multiple guitars because the sliding creates so much friction and heat that they will melt if you don't cool them down or switch to a different one. 😂😂😂
When you engage the Dtuna, you should not see the screw, it should be flushed out with the extremity of the Dtuna, that is why the Dtuna comes with two length of screws, Using the longer one as see here will make the engaging to E a bit of an inexact science!
No one ever said it was gonna be easy! What channel Eddie?? ! Obviously the one that is possible to be of use sir! Was trying on phone n dat aint eas scoobs
Absolutely! I invite you to check out my other stuff and see if there is anything else I have covered you might be interested in. Also, if you have an idea let me know and maybe I’ll do a video on it.
Also, that was a nice tip to use the grub screw to tune the E, shame I seem to have lost mine. :) I have been using the fine tuner always with the D-Tuna but it’s far from perfect, guess I have to find the dimensions of the grub screw somewhere and order one. Does a Floyd inherently become stiffer to use with the D-Tuna, since you have to deck it so tight with the springs? I would prefer a bit softer feel on it 😮
@@tuu_nainen thanks for watching the video. Let me address the most important thing first. That grub screw is the most important part of the mechanism. If you don’t have it this thing is next to impossible to use accurately. The fine tuner will just hang it up and cause difficulty and inaccuracy in the use of the D-tuna. You can order a new grub screw here. www.fu-tone.com/product/evh-d-tuna-fine-tuning-screw/ Next would be the retainer bar question. It was definitely tightened the proper amount. Not a lot of people know this but there were a bunch of Floyd Rose prototypes that lead to what we just call “Floyd Rose” today, basically the FRT-5 The first Floyd to have fine tuners was the FRT-4. This was a direct result of what a pain in the butt it was to get the guitar in tune with the locking nut and no fine tuners. It’s a fascinating story if you’re a guitar nerd like me. You can read about it here. vintagefloydrose.com/frt-4/ Anyway, most people clamp the locking nut way too tight (myself included). This pulls the string sharp. Personally, this is one of the reasons I don’t have a D-tuna in any of my personal guitars. The proper way to do this with the least tuning issues is the way I show in this video. Decking the Floyd definitely makes it stiffer. You can adjust your claw to make it lighter but it does have to be decked for the D-tuna to work properly or be made dive only in one way or another. Also, the EVH Floyd is a Floyd Rose 1000 that has been rebranded. The materials used are the same as the Schaller made German Floyds but the finish work isn’t as good. Therefore, sometimes there is a burr under the fine tuner of the low E that will hang up your D-tuna (assuming you didn’t put one in aftermarket). I don’t know how much of that you knew or didn’t know but that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot of forgotten history on these things. That’s why I am doing my series, “would a Floyd Rose by any other name play as sweet”. If any of this interests you I have a huge video coming out on the history of Kahler very soon. There is some weird stuff in there when it comes to Kahler and Floyd and how their paths intertwined. I hope you enjoy it.
Got my D-tuna setup with 9-42 strings and half step down. With D-tuna pulled, it reaches C# perfectly, but whenever I push it to the "non-drop" position, my low D# is sharp by just a few cents. I turned that small screw until it almost falls off, but still couldn't make it get in tune perfectly. Any advices on that?
You see kids, this is why you want to stay in school and off drugs. This guy was obviously scrolling and trolling high on dope last night. It’s sad because he thought this would be funny but it’s reads as a lonely person desperate for help.
@@themixmusicandmore6280 thought that might be it. I hate if I told you Gary Kahler and I are developing something to where you could have it float and use the dTuna? Check this out. Floyd Rose to fixed bridge th-cam.com/users/shortsIvnQ5zqKkoc?feature=share
@@themixmusicandmore6280 Just put a block in it, or purchase a trem stop. A little more spring tension, maybe an additional spring if you're only using two, and Bob's your auntie.
Eddie! Be a champ n giz yer Faceborg address if ye have one! A cfhannel by my Clydeside Commie Chumbo MADMALKO woukld be fun for you to join! Most guitar channels suck but on a Sunday there`s the SUNDAYSTEAM where the aforementioned Malcolm drinks a bottle of Buckfast while we talk about life etc! Dont you be a square now !!
Man, wammy bars are a beautiful thing. But they can be a pain if you're like me and don't really know what you're doing. But hey. That's what channels like yours are for.
Thank you so very much!
For a full tear down and reassembly video check out the others I. This series, “would a Floyd Rose by any other name play as sweet”.
I don’t know what one I’ll do next. Maybe a Kahler.
This is the only video that made me not scrap this guitar of mine,,,,THANK YOU SIR!!!
@@flaggism I appreciate your comment and am very happy my video helped you.
I'll be honest. I've been super leary about owning one of these. And now im actually looking forward to it. Thanks.
Glad I could help!
BEST video of setting up the floyd rose and dtuna. Everything from the string change to the nuances of the dtuna. Thank you!!
Thank you for watching it. I’m very happy you enjoyed it so much.
The ONLY video I have found on TH-cam showing how to do this exact setup! Thank you so much!
So glad I could help. Feel free to share it. That helps my channel grow.
Man.... I feel your pain... I tried setting up a D-Tuna and it is sooooooo frustrating at times! Thanks for sharing!
Don’t tell anyone but I remember back before they were branded EVH.
@@REXYLAB Really ? Please, tell me more! I thought that EVH branded the concept!
@@guyprovost way back in the late 80s it was a small company and didn’t say EVH at all, it was still called dTuna. You saw it in little ads in guitar magazines mainly. I didn’t see them for a few years and then all the sudden it was the EVH dTuna.
He did the same thing with rockenger trems before Floyd Rose.
@@REXYLAB WOW! Thanks for the trivia.... I had know idea... And I'm an old dude! Thanks! I was under the impression that Eddy "created" the gadget and used his company to sell it!
@@guyprovost I think they went to great lengths to make it appear that way.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter though because EVH is responsible for the direction music took. He was our generation’s Hendrix.
wow theres so much great info in this video
Thank you, I totally encourage you to check out my entire channel but this might be of particular interest to you.
Would A Floyd Rose By Any Other Name Play As Sweet?
th-cam.com/play/PLrFyjrwqOCJzECnaTZv2MhFZak4fdkWMf.html
Great vdo ED. Thanks for those set up tips. Well done. Your a real Pro. Where are you located anyway?
Thanks you, I’m glad you got some value out of it. When this was shot I was in Lafayette, Louisiana but now I’m in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Thanks for the video, I was able to install a D-tuna on my decked Gotoh 1996T. Its easier to just use the fine tuner to drop tune imo.
I agree, it is easier to do that but then other issues pop up. This is why I use a 7 string or a hard tail with a Hipshot D tuner if I want to tune to D.
Gotoh 1996T has more range on the fine tuners than a Floyd as far as I'm aware. That's what I do with my Gotoh. I have mine set with a trem stop, and I spend most of the time in drop tuning, but it's very easy to tune it to standard.
What about action on obe of these 5150 deluxe models. I got the aqua burst and tge action is too high for my preference. Trem is against the body.
Great video - very informative. Thanks for posting!
Thank you! I’ll be cohosting a podcast with Gary Kahler very soon on the Kahler TH-cam channel. I hope you enjoy it!
I put the ball end thru the tuner because the string will usually always break at the bridge saddle…then you can quickly unwind to give some slack to feed it back into the saddle…lock the string back down retune …and Bob’s your uncle👍
You can still do that without the ball end at the string post.
But, if you regularly break your string at the saddle there is probably a burr on your saddle or something else wrong.
I maintain, there is zero advantage to stringing your guitar that way. If you do it because you like it for some reason that’s one thing, but there is no advantage to having the ball ends at the headstock.
@@REXYLAB Steve Vai's guitar tech does it. Mainly because it's fast to change strings that way.
Thank you so much for this video! Just got this exact guitar so this video was perfect since its my first d tuna
I am so happy it helped you!
If you have other things you want to know tell me and I’ll make a video about how to do it if it’s in the scope of what I do.
@Rexylab cool deal! Also if my bridge came as a slight float from the store. Is there a way to flush it to the body like yours in this video without too much trouble? Floyds current float is about .4 or so centimeters above the body
@@DC7ify sure, the posts on either side of the bridge just need to be screwed down towards the body. Carefully screw them down and you will get it just right.
@Rexylab awesome I had a hunch it was those two little guys. Was just a little timid to mess with them. Thank you!
Does dropping the trem post down affect the overall action height? Or is the neck pocket low enough so that the string height is good (no notes choking out during big bends, for instance)?
Great Video ! Great Channel !
Thank you so much!
There's actually a video with Duane Baron (the guy that invented the String Stretcha) or EVH's old guitar tech I can't recall which atm... But he slides it down the strings. That's how it's supposed to be used. He actually recommends having more than one on hand when doing multiple guitars because the sliding creates so much friction and heat that they will melt if you don't cool them down or switch to a different one. 😂😂😂
I put rollers on one and eliminated the problem.
@@REXYLAB that's a good idea! You should develop your own improved version.
When you engage the Dtuna, you should not see the screw, it should be flushed out with the extremity of the Dtuna, that is why the Dtuna comes with two length of screws, Using the longer one as see here will make the engaging to E a bit of an inexact science!
There is definitely an art to setting these up. That’s for sure.
Great video
Thank you!
No one ever said it was gonna be easy! What channel Eddie?? ! Obviously the one that is possible to be of use sir! Was trying on phone n dat aint eas scoobs
It never is.
Thx man for this thorough insight, much appreciated :)
Absolutely!
I invite you to check out my other stuff and see if there is anything else I have covered you might be interested in. Also, if you have an idea let me know and maybe I’ll do a video on it.
Are you sure the retainer bar was screwed down low enough if the strings went so much out of tune after locking the nut? 22:24
Also, that was a nice tip to use the grub screw to tune the E, shame I seem to have lost mine. :) I have been using the fine tuner always with the D-Tuna but it’s far from perfect, guess I have to find the dimensions of the grub screw somewhere and order one.
Does a Floyd inherently become stiffer to use with the D-Tuna, since you have to deck it so tight with the springs? I would prefer a bit softer feel on it 😮
@@tuu_nainen thanks for watching the video. Let me address the most important thing first.
That grub screw is the most important part of the mechanism. If you don’t have it this thing is next to impossible to use accurately. The fine tuner will just hang it up and cause difficulty and inaccuracy in the use of the D-tuna. You can order a new grub screw here.
www.fu-tone.com/product/evh-d-tuna-fine-tuning-screw/
Next would be the retainer bar question. It was definitely tightened the proper amount. Not a lot of people know this but there were a bunch of Floyd Rose prototypes that lead to what we just call “Floyd Rose” today, basically the FRT-5
The first Floyd to have fine tuners was the FRT-4. This was a direct result of what a pain in the butt it was to get the guitar in tune with the locking nut and no fine tuners. It’s a fascinating story if you’re a guitar nerd like me. You can read about it here.
vintagefloydrose.com/frt-4/
Anyway, most people clamp the locking nut way too tight (myself included). This pulls the string sharp. Personally, this is one of the reasons I don’t have a D-tuna in any of my personal guitars. The proper way to do this with the least tuning issues is the way I show in this video.
Decking the Floyd definitely makes it stiffer. You can adjust your claw to make it lighter but it does have to be decked for the D-tuna to work properly or be made dive only in one way or another.
Also, the EVH Floyd is a Floyd Rose 1000 that has been rebranded. The materials used are the same as the Schaller made German Floyds but the finish work isn’t as good. Therefore, sometimes there is a burr under the fine tuner of the low E that will hang up your D-tuna (assuming you didn’t put one in aftermarket).
I don’t know how much of that you knew or didn’t know but that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot of forgotten history on these things. That’s why I am doing my series, “would a Floyd Rose by any other name play as sweet”.
If any of this interests you I have a huge video coming out on the history of Kahler very soon. There is some weird stuff in there when it comes to Kahler and Floyd and how their paths intertwined. I hope you enjoy it.
Got my D-tuna setup with 9-42 strings and half step down. With D-tuna pulled, it reaches C# perfectly, but whenever I push it to the "non-drop" position, my low D# is sharp by just a few cents. I turned that small screw until it almost falls off, but still couldn't make it get in tune perfectly. Any advices on that?
tune it to the lowest note with it pulled and then use the grub screw to tune it to the higher note if you haven't tried that.
@@REXYLAB use the grub to tune to the higher with it still pulled?
Does the bridge sit at a slight backward angle so that it doesn't float at all?
No, just screw down the studs and it will lay flat.
Am I misunderstanding, or is it a typo at 11:10?
Damn! Good catch! Sharp moved back flat moved forward.
I’ll fix it as soon as I can. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
HEY JOE HOW COULD I MAKE A SUSTAIN LIKE A...WHEN A JUNKIE HIGH ON DOPE IS READY TO FALL BUT KEEPS ONCOMING BACK UP...WITH THE GUITAR??
You see kids, this is why you want to stay in school and off drugs. This guy was obviously scrolling and trolling high on dope last night.
It’s sad because he thought this would be funny but it’s reads as a lonely person desperate for help.
How do i MAKE my guitar dive only?
Is it floating with a route behind it? Out of curiosity, why do you want it dive only?
@@REXYLAB so I can use a d tuna
@@themixmusicandmore6280 thought that might be it. I hate if I told you Gary Kahler and I are developing something to where you could have it float and use the dTuna? Check this out.
Floyd Rose to fixed bridge
th-cam.com/users/shortsIvnQ5zqKkoc?feature=share
@@themixmusicandmore6280 Just put a block in it, or purchase a trem stop. A little more spring tension, maybe an additional spring if you're only using two, and Bob's your auntie.
Eddie! Be a champ n giz yer Faceborg address if ye have one! A cfhannel by my Clydeside Commie Chumbo MADMALKO woukld be fun for you to join! Most guitar channels suck but on a Sunday there`s the SUNDAYSTEAM where the aforementioned Malcolm drinks a bottle of Buckfast while we talk about life etc! Dont you be a square now !!
I’m Rexylab on Facebook.
@@REXYLAB Cool Man!