How To Set Up The PERFECT FLOAT On Your Floyd Rose Bridge
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- You can do it! Learn how to understand and maintain your Floyd Rose bridge, so that you can dial it in with confidence whenever a situation arises. Did you change your tuning or your strings, and now your bridge is sticking up in the back, or sunken into the body? Are you curious about your spring configuration, or thinking of adding another spring? I tackle it ALL in this detailed Floyd Rose float tutorial!
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Let it be known--This is the clearest video on how to properly set up a Floyd Rose!
Haha I'll take it!🤘😎🎸
I use a block to make it fixed bridge briefly then tune the guitar. Once it’s perfectly tuned on fixed bridge I start adjusting the spring tension until the block drops or loosen up. That technique usually get it done very quickly.
I've been playing Floyds for over a decade and I'm very comfortable doing this already... I'm still watching this clip regardless because you've got some great tips and advice Rob, there's always stuff to learn!! HUGE fan from Wales, UK!!
I appreciate that brother!👊🎸
I'm in Wales 2,Swansea
@@crovian1985 Most Welsh the better Boyo
Same here! I can always use a refresher course
As someone who loves to tinker, I love Floyd's. There is something satisfying about setting them up properly
Totally agree!
For me the fastest way to do this is: Slightly overtighten the strings -> put an AA battery under the trem, which is the perfect size to keep it flush -> tune your strings -> remove battery -> loosen springs until its in tune again.
If it works for you, roll with it!🤘
Bro just saved my life
I tried this and WOW!! This made it so much easier to set up . I was having a slight instability in tuning and this completely fixed the problem I was having. Great advice!!
I use a battery as well except I cover it up with electrical tape to thicken it a bit more so that it actually holds up the trem in place. Still a good way to do it
Bro thank you! This is great advice!
Easy the best and clearest Floyd Rose tutorial video I have ever seen! This makes my life much easier!
So glad to hear that man!🎸
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude!!! I’m so stoked I found your channel. I figured you just weren’t really putting out any content...for some reason. LOVED the resurrection album and dvd. Such fond memories learning those riffs. That’s as during my first year of college when i really started being serious about getting my pick hand into shape and playing some of those complex patterns. Even switched to Jazz iii’s and totally changed how I hold the pick from the way Matt holds it to a more traditional tucked grip like yours. Crazy man.
Right on Isan! And welcome aboard bro! 🤘
I love your guitar tech videos, everything is so clearly explained. Many thanks
Glad to hear it bro!🤘😎
Fantastic video, cheers for all the help!
Hey happy to hear it! 🎸
I love working on my guitars. This is like having my own guitar tech instructing me on "How to" via video. 😀👍
Haha nice!🎸
this is the best guide I've come across for setting up the level on a floyd!
I've finally properly setup my LTD M-330R that was given to us last month and it had quite a steep angle when we got it, it had a Floyd Rose special and it was really annoying to setup.
Now it's perfect! it now stays in tune when the trem bar is being used.
Thank you!
Awesome! Happy to have helped!🎸
I followed along to set up an RG7620 I got recently. I restrung it with some heavier strings and it did exactly what your example did. Straight to the point and super informative as always. Thanks Rob!
Happy to hear it man!
Your previous videos on Floyd float setup made it quite an easy endeavour to understand finally for my Schecters i bought to replace my ESP(seeing as they are made with the same parts in the same factory) It solved sooo many headaches i had
Great man! I'm glad to hear it. This is a fresh version for whomever may enjoy it!
Great video. Thank you. Blessings.
There’s so many different ways to do this stuff. I always love seeing how other people do it. 🤘
Yep! That's part of makes all this stuff fun. Seeing different methods, brainstorming, experimenting, etc. You gotta love it!🎸
best video about this issues
Had to login to leave a comment thanking you. Recently got a charvel with floating trem and after pulling my hair out for hours I finally found this video and your advice worked immediately. Saved me alot of frustration. Thank you sir.
Very happy to hear that man, and thanks for letting me know!🎸
Rob,,,,,your Floyd videos, honestly,, have to be the best. Hands down. Keep up the great content and thanks 😊
I really appreciate that man, and I'm glad to know they've been helpful!🎸
Thank you sir, an excellent all round explanation & easy to follow -finally got my guitar in tune again for the first time in months 👍
Excellent man! Happy to hear it!🎸
Thank you so much! New Floyd user here and I can’t wait to setup my Fender HM Strat this weekend. This will help tremendously.
Glad to hear that man! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
I wish i watch all these videos before i touched the guitar lol took all the strings off now bridge and strings all over the place
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I was struggling for hours trying to figure out my issue (raised bridge) I ended up ordering an extra spring, took my time going through the video and paying attention and now I have achieved the perfect float thanks to this video.
If only I had found this video 25 years ago, I would still have my Ibanez RG
Again, thank you! I was pulling what little hair I have left out.
Awesome man! I'm very happy to hear that, and happy to have helped! Cheers and thanks for letting me know! 🎸
This video saved my life! Thank you so much! :D
Right on! Happy to help!🎸
Wow! Great helpful video!
Happy to hear it!🎸
Great video on setting up a Floyd with explanations on lower tunings, which I don't think any other video mentions. Great, clean camera work.
Thanks a lot man! Glad you dug it!🎸
You’re so rad! Wish videos like this existed when I first started on floating systems lol. Would have save a lot of time and money. Great video 🤘
Haha thanks dude! I wish they did too when I started out!🤘
Been playing for about 17 years now and always been a bit intimidated by Floyds but I've been considering finally biting the bullet and getting a guitar with one and this video has me confident I can handle the set up
Happy to hear it! Ain't nothing to it, but to do it!🎸
Wow man. Thanks.🤝
Dude great video.....very patient and informative.
Hey thanks a lot man, and I hope it helped you out!🎸
Thank you! Worked like a charm, and I had an issue with this from day one.
My pleasure! And I'm also a Jeep Dude!🎸
Huge thank you for this video
My pleasure! Thanks for checking it out🎸
This was great bro thank u🍺🎸
Happy to help! 🍺🎸
Great video Rob! FRs are always a headache, but this video is a very well done all encompassing guide on how to tame the beast.
Thanks Joe! 🎸
So many other videos with tips and tricks. This is the most straightforward by far.
Thanks and happy to hear it man!🎸 I recommend checking out my latest float video too if you're interested! th-cam.com/video/KC6s5fjD1r0/w-d-xo.html
@@RobArnoldWorld thanks!
Killer video - I know a floating bridge can be a daunting concept even to seasoned guitarists but I learned a ton from this and know so much more about the it now doesn’t seem as scary lol
Awesome tek! I'm glad you tuned in! I'm ready for some drum workshop videos from your channel!🥁
🔥🔥🔥 this is amazing 🔥🤟🔥
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I think It was cool to learn a little bit
I've never been one to do my own guitar work but now this helps me alot
Happy to hear it!🎸
Tedious job but so thankful for this video!
Thanks dude! If you can learn to enjoy the process, it becomes well, enjoyable!🎸
Thank you for the save
My pleasure! 🎸
Awesome video, very well done. Most of my guitars are Floyds, always can learn a new trick. Thanks Rob 🤘🤘🤘
Glad to hear it! And I'll bet you've got some skills in the Floyd dept...
Am I right?
@@RobArnoldWorld Oh yeah but it came with lots of trial and error. I find it fun now, videos like this help so much!
@@tonesguitars Agreed!
Thank you my friend
My pleasure!🎸
thank you very much, did like you said and like you said trial and error, my floyd rose was wayy sunken into the body to the point where the tremolo didnt work upwards.
thanks
i had a guitar with a Floyd in the past, and this video makes me want to get another one
Good man! I say go for it!🎸
Cool video man! That guitar is sweet, very shiny
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Man that bridge is heavy! All this iterative process has to be done with the guitar in playing position, not horizontally. Sometimes the bridge sits back in horizontal position because of gravity, but when in playing position is just fine.
Going from e to C standard on my first Floyd rose guitar. Big thanks.
Right on!🎸
Good video. 👍
Very important content 🔥
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Awsome tuning sensei helped me out tons it couldn't have been any clearer than that...🤘😎👍
Awesome James! Happy to hear it!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld ive been trying to figure it out but thanks i had never owned a Floyd rose tremelo before i was used to strats they stay in tune better if they float
This was incredibly helpful Rob! Thank you so much. Just tuning up my LTD Alexi-200
Time to check out the other videos now to complete the set-up!
Awesome bro!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld 🤘🤘 hey, I'm curious what strings you usually go to for your Drop C setups?
@@MartinBellamyMBDrums For the past few years I've been using DR High Beam 11-52's, and I love em'!
@@RobArnoldWorld Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation! I'll be picking up a set to try out🤘🤘
Really appreciate all the content, it's so helpful. Cheers!
@@MartinBellamyMBDrums Thanks for tuning in bro!
ditto to get to drop c on a strat SSH thanks for the insights
Love your vids, thank you so much for sharing your skills. Where did you get that maintenance table? I looked through you links but did not find it.
Thanks dude! Yeah for some reason I can't put a link to it in my gear list. But it's called a "tech box", and you can find them on Ultracase.com
I had to send this golden knowledge to a buddy of mine just now. Thanks Rob.
i didn't wanna write a small novel on how these are set up hahahaha....
I'm super happy to hear that man!🙏🎸
wassup rob .....dude you're videos have made my guitars scream bro thank you so much and i can level that bridge for you if you need me too....
Awesome John! Cheers bro🤘
Great video and explanation. Over the years especially with floyds it was trial and Error regarding setting it up, like you said. But if you get used to it, it is actually not that difficult. The 3-spring method for me doesn't work, because it is for most string gauges in combination with different tunings to weak, especially in the triangle shape. The disadvantage of that spring shape is that most of the force is on the middle spring. I always go for the 4-spring method, also for tuning stability. I recently did a setup for my Caparison dellinger Chris Amott sig. It didn't stay in tune for some reason, replaced the springs (yes they wear out) and added a fourth spring and now it is rocksolid😎🤟
Nice tips!🎸
Very helpful on how to set up. Though it kills me to see 13-56 thats so tight for drop c. I use light top heavy bottom 10-52 and they're perfect for drop c
Thank you that was a massive help. I have been fighting a LTD kh202 all evening 😢
Happy to help man!🎸
You can also use higher grade springs as well
Rob, this is SO helpful - I bought my first FR guitar recently and managed to set it up in Drop C with the perfect float thanks to this video! It’s an LTD with EMGs and is now my Chimaira guitar. You are an amazing teacher, thank you!
Thanks Jack! Super happy to hear that man! Which LTD do you have?
@@RobArnoldWorld it’s an M-1000 in Snow White - been playing along to the Chimaira tabs on your Patreon!
@@Jack1990Stevens Ahh nice man!🎸
Good as hell🤙
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Great video as usual Rob. When you tune the guitar to pitch. You go from string 6-1 as you explained clearly in your video. I learned to tune a Floyd by skipping from 6-1-5-2-4-3. I know it's like 2 sides of the same coin but I just wanted to get your opinion on it. I find it balances the bridge better when I'm tunning up but maybe I've been doing it wrong all along. Keep up the great work. 🤘
That's interesting! I'm going to try that!🤘
I’ve always thought this when I was tuning, wondered if a different string pattern would make life easier!
Thanks
Hey thank you bro! I appreciate it big time! 👊🙏🎸
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Skyscraper Guitars has a great method and some great tools for Floyd setup. I've never been able to get through a Floyd set up without putting holes in drywall or screaming into a pillow until my eyes are bloodshot, but Skyscraper's method and tools made the last Floyd set up I had to do near painless and pretty dang fast. That should mean something coming from a guy who used to cry in the bathroom when a customer would come in with a Floyd.
Haha goes easy on your walls brother! Thanks for the tip and I'll definitely see what Skyscraper is all about!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld Please do, I promise I'm not getting paid to shill for him! lol
@@Zane_Doe Their stuff looked sweet for sure! I'll keep em' in mind!
Excellent video. One thing I've always done a little differently is I like to leave the fine tuners backed off instead of mid way, and tune slightly flat on purpose before locking the nut down. Between 20 cents to pitch more on the heavier gauge strings than on the treble strings. Then tune to pitch with the fine tuners. Only because it leaves more adjustment room in the fine tuners as the strings age and stretch from playing. I only changed my strings maybe once a month or two when I was playing regularly, it's a lazy tactic 😂
Great tip! My only argument against this would be that I often find that the strings sharpen after tightening the nut screws. So you get everything in tune with the tuners, then tighten the nut screws, then do your final tuning on the fine tuners... And if the strings sharpened after tightening the nut screws, you need some room to back them off. Have you ever experienced this as well?
@@RobArnoldWorld I found that if you leave the strings just flat enough tightening the locking nut will bring them just about right to pitch, most of the time the nut has barely any effect on the treble strings. Sometimes the low E would be sharp but I fix that by skipping it in the fine tuner adjustments and by the time I come back around it's either right at pitch or slightly flat. And then by the next day I might have to give all of them a regular tune up with the fine tuners like normal.
@@tdarcs Word! I often do the same, and leave the strings slightly flat before tightening the nut screws. 🎸
Hey, great video. Does it need to be "perfect float" and does it makes intonation problems if it's not? Thanks Rob :)
Perfect float is most desirable! It's just kind of the way it "should be". And since intonation is the very last step in the setup process, everything done to the guitar beforehand, has an effect on intonation. If you haven't seen it, check out my video on intonation! th-cam.com/video/nDgIHibIE0M/w-d-xo.html
This is a great explanation of how a Floyd works and how to set it up. A lot of the vids ignore how meticulous you really need to be if you want it to stay in tune. What work bench are you using to do a standing setup? That looks more comfortable than hunching over a table or a lap.
Thanks dude! And you're right about how meticulous you need to be! The workstation I'm using here is an Ultracase tech box. They're totally awesome, but pretty pricey. 👉 www.ultracase.com/tech-box.html
@@RobArnoldWorld thank you. This thing is pricey like you said but it's perfect. I put it on the kitchen counter and instant portable standing work space. No more straining my back working with the guitar in my lap. Seriously thanks for the tip.
@@JD-vj4go Hey right on! Glad to hear you picked one up!
Thanks Rob this is great I got to play with you a long time ago in Flint, MI it must have been 2005, You were with machine head It was a really good time The opening band I think something happened and we got the call from the owner of the machine shop, Good times! I thought about you and the roadrunner United DVD popped up in my TH-cam feed and I saw Andols, This is a really good clear video I love it! do you have any thoughts on a brass block the larger tremolo block versus the stock reel Floyd Rose, thanks for the tips!
Hey awesome man! I love stories like that, and I remember the Machine Shop well!
As for the big blocks, I had one built into each of my 2011 ESP's Customs, the RA-4 and RA-5, and honestly I notice no difference whatsoever compared to a regular block in a stock Floyd. Thanks for tuning in!🎸
Hey Rob, I really like your tech videos. Any advice on setting the pickup hight on the emg 81. I have a little fight with a fixed bridge guitar. 😂 big thanks and greetings from Austria/Vienna
Thanks dude! I try and get the pickup as close to strings as I can without it being intruding in any way. Probably about 1/4" away from the strings. I'll usually have my treble side just a touch higher than the bass side, in an effort to help my leads stand out. Good luck!
Will try that, thank you.
Rob, thank you so much for your channel. It has inspired me to start recording my own music again! Much love!
Glad to hear it! Always happy to inspire, and best of luck with your recordings!🤘
Great video, I just bought my first guitar with a Floyd Rose (Special)....I went to restring it and am currently struggling now with a bridge that leans forward as you've shown - its causing the strings to be dropped a half step even after I stretched them out the way you recommended....I am going to try and adjust the springs in the back as you demonstrated, my question is, is that safe to do with the guitar tuned up, or should I loosen them first? I'm worried that I'll somehow break the springs or f**k the bridge up even more! lol its so frustrating
No need to loosen the strings! You'll obviously have to retune them though, after any spring adjustments. As I demonstrate, it will probably take multiple adjustments, in small increments, to get things just right. Good luck!
I recently bought ibanez rg550 genesis reissue, this helps alot..
Is it ok to make the angled spring on floating bridge? Some recommends it to be paralleled.. but in my setup i make it angled
In many of my guitars I use three springs in a V shape. So yes, angled is fine, as long as everything is symmetrical. 👌
Rob, it'll be super interesting if you do a video on how do you set your pickup height, passives and actives. thans a lot :-)
Honestly man, I don't really have any method to it. I just eyeball what looks appropriate in terms of pickup height. I wish there was something more substantial or scientific I could share with you about it, but unfortunately I kinda just wing it.
@@RobArnoldWorld Thanks a lot Rob, I have the same amp and a Traditional cab, an LTD M-I Custom 87 with an 81 but I don't know if it's a cab problem, it doesn't sound this tight (maybe you use an Oversized cab which is more scooped). I'm struggling a lot and honestly I don't know if it's a cab problem. It's used but like new.
@@Hagstrom4ever I would doubt that the issue is your cab. I suppose one way to know though, would be to borrow a different cab from a friend or something, and then do some tests. None of my cabs are oversized btw. Try switching up the environment your cab is in too, to see if that makes any difference. For example, your rig will sound one way in a garage, and a completely different way in a closet.
Hey Rob you wouldn't happen to have any experience with an Ibanez slt101 single locking trem? I cant find any pdf or video showing a complete setup with this bridge.
Sorry I'm not familiar!
@@RobArnoldWorld Its all good, Rob!
Hey Rob, i heard that neck thru's are best for tuning stability. Makes sense i suppose. Whats your opinion on this?
I'd say 90% of my guitars are neck-thru, and I've got a handful of bolt-ons. I honestly notice zero difference regarding anything at all. Tuning, sustain, action... Zero difference. But that's just my personal experience!
@@RobArnoldWorld Cool. Thanks.
Rob best Video on Floyd thanks for taking so much time to make this video. I liked and subscribed ---.Doug Marks recommended tuning Floyd Rose 3 4 2 5 1 6 = G D B A HE LE. pattern.
Hey thanks man, and welcome aboard! 🎸
This is helpful as hell thanks a lot! Makes a lot of sense. I was trying to go from e to c standard with 9 gauge strings and I get it now. Didn’t wanna mess anything up with trial and error so these videos help. New subscriber!
Awesome bro! Happy to help, and welcome aboard!🎸
please do a how-to for action/ string height adjustment on the Floyd Rose
Have you checked this one out? th-cam.com/video/ktiF2rysCW0/w-d-xo.html
I think you may find it helpful! And as I say in the vid, I typically adjust my action from the neck, and not the bridge. But of course, sometimes action adjustments are necessary at the bridge. But please start here, and let me know if it helped!
@@RobArnoldWorld yeah, i did check the neck after watching that vid, mine looks good with a slight bow so gonna need to adjust the string height from the Floyd ? or should I adjust the neck to be more "straight" ?
@@kopan14 Personally I'd get the neck straight first, or suuuuuuuuper close to straight. And then if I still wasn't satisfied, then you simply lower your mounting studs, by turning them clockwise, a little at a time. So maybe start with a half turn on each, dive your bar back and fourth a few times to get things to settle, then retune, and see how it feels, being on the look out for fret buzz. Because now you'll play the balancing game of neck relief, vs bridge height. You obviously want the best feeling low action, with minimal fret buzz. (a little is acceptable).
So after lowering your bridge, you may then need to back off the truss rod a touch, giving it a little more relief. Good luck! 🎸
Hi Rob, 'm sure you know this.... But what about a Tremol-no system? That will speed up the process to lock it to change tuning? If I like a new Guitar but it's only got floyd rose style, I would swap out for the Tremol-no and set it to hardtail mode to change tuning.
It's funny, I briefly mention the tremor-no in my new video that I'm editing right now! I have one but I've never installed it, and honestly fear it a little!
Is it possible to float a flush mount Floyd? At least a little bit? Dive only sucks...need to be able to vibrato. Thanks!
I'm not sure I totally understand. A Floyd or "floating tremolo" rests in pre cut cavity within your guitar body. This allows it to move freely in either direction, backwards or forwards. I get the feeling you may be asking about a different type of bridge. If you want, tell me exactly what guitar you have and I'll look it up and take a look.
Very useful video, man. What are your thoughs about fixed bridges?
Love them too! I really like the hipshot bridge. Just discovered it recently. I talk about it in my ESP arctic metal unboxing video. Check it out if you haven't already!🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld I did, I did, that guitar is badass. Waiting for some killer tunes with the new arsenal🤘
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Maybe my method has a flaw... but I just block the bridge at a level plane. Tune up to desired pitch. Lock it. Remove block. Tighten or loosen springs til the 5th string is in tune again. A lot less back and forth. Seems solid and way less fiddley than the method in this video. Tell me why I'm wrong?
Thanks for the tutorial, Rob, just what I needed...actually.
I've owned an official Floyd Rose equipped 1987 Fender E Series strat but I sold that, like 4 years ago, and haven't set up a FR since. I've got a LTD MH103QM, bought it in returned, new condition from Guitar Center and I can't get the strings to stay in the bridge for the life of me. They shipped it with the strings, slacked, and I when I tried to tune it up, some strings snapped at the bridge... I never had that occur in all the years I owned the OG Floyd. I'm going to strip the LTD down and reset the bridge, set it up like a fresh install with new strings etc. see if I can't get it to work. One thing's for sure, GC didn't set it up before selling it to me.
Yeah that sounds like a bummer man. But you know the old saying.. if you want something done right... you gotta do it yourself!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld Very true, that saying's an oldie but it stays in heavy rotation....followed by the saying, "if you want something, you've got to work for it".
Thanks for the reply, Rob, much appreciated.
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Mate, im such a knuckle head.... I never once thought about an extra spring!! 🤣 nice guitar, Ive got a few teles... great video rob.
Awesome! I was hoping that spring segment would set off some light bulbs here or there! 🤘💡🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld was my 10 year anniversary on the 26th, my wife bought me a Orange Rockerverb... it Rocks mate
@@scottbrady2301 Sweet man!🤘
And congrats to you and the mrs.!
@@RobArnoldWorld thanks matey
I wish the spring adjustment screws were allen keys or somthing, most common issue ive had is screws heads stripping out
That is a good idea!
ITS A SITUATION OF BALANCE AND TENSION WITH THE STRINGS TOO.... YOU CAN MAKE THE FLOYD BE PULLING FWD IF YOU TU YOUR GUITAR AT THAT POSITION OR ACTUALLY BE PARALLEL IF YOU ALLOW THE FFLOYD TO GO BACK AND TUNING THE GTR THAT WAY..I CATUALLY CAN PUT MY FLOYD PARALLEL TO THE GUITAR BODY AND WITH 2 SPRINGS...
Thanks for this excellent vid
I restrung my EVH Wolfgang (dive only) special with a 10 52 and down tuned to drop C. Guitar came factory fitted with two springs and 9 42 gauge. So I had to add two more springs and tighten the screws all the way into wood. In the end the bridge was almost parallel to the body but the tremolo had become toooooo stiff. In the end I changed back to 9 42 as I found the tremolo impossible to use. Wanted to ask if people who use heavier gauge mostly use it on the hard tails because heavier gauge makes tremolo too stiff even with slaggy tunings like drop C. Am I right???
I suppose the level of stiffness is more acceptable to some, and less acceptable to others. Of course everyone loves a nice spongy and responsive tremolo, but that too is a balancing act to achieve, depending on your setup.
Question... did you go straight from 2 springs to 4? I would recommend trying 3 springs in the V pattern. That's what I like best, and I primarily play in drop C, 11-52. I also have plenty of room to turn my screws in either direction if necessary. Keep working at it, and good luck! 🎸
@@RobArnoldWorld I added one spring first. It wasn’t getting levelled despite screws all the way into wood. Then I added the fourth one.
After that when I reset it up for 9 42 I took the two springs out but noticed that on standard tuning I had to tighten the screws way more than they were originally. Seems like I messed up something.
Thanks for the prompt response. Cheers
@@kamranashraf8305 Only thing I can think of is to maybe try new springs? Like maybe the ones you're using aren't supplying the proper amount of tension?
That scenario would be SUPER rare, but, a fresh set would be a fairly inexpensive experiment.
Hi Bro, i got a problem, which I'm struggling with, my Floyd rose got stuck down , i want to restring my guitar but apparently got stuck somehow, could you tell me what to do to adjust the height
Yeah! The proper amount of tension just needs to be applied to the strings so that they pull the bridge back up. Please check out my other Perfect Float video as well. ► th-cam.com/video/OpW3exj5HFo/w-d-xo.html
Every scenario is different when it comes to this stuff, but between both of these videos, the information is there for you to consider and apply accordingly to your situation. Just study the videos, practice and experiment, and you'll eventually get it floating just right!🎸
I messed by using 10s in standard tuning the tone is like a brick wall but I don't think the springs in the back can handle it, bending and using the whammy has become a workout now, going back to the 9s f that
Alright, I did it - after gaining confidence from your Floyd Rose series I ordered the new Brendon Small Ghosthorse! 🤘
Wish I would’ve seen your older Floyd videos before I sold my Kirk Hammett Ouija guitar last year 😓 That guitar was amazing but I was way too intimidated by the Floyd and the other videos I watched made it seem way too complicated.
Well, while it's a bummer you sold your Hammett, I'm glad you've got a Ghosthorse on the way! Happy to have helped in any small way!🤘
@@RobArnoldWorld Your videos helped me conquer my fear of the Floyd!
That Ghosthorse I mentioned never came in so I canceled but I just got a Jim Root Charvel. I took it from standard to drop A while watching your FR videos.
Would you mind if I included a little 20 second comp of your Floyd videos in my video for the Charvel? A lot of Jim Root fans want the Charvel but are scared of the trem. Directing them to you will definitely ease their minds!
@@sunnyhaair Cool man! Go for it I guess! I'm not really sure what that means, but give it a go and let's see what happens!
@@RobArnoldWorld Thanks!
Sorry for the confusion! I should’ve explained better 😅 I’m working on a review for the guitar and during the string change segment I’ll be mentioning I learned from your Floyd Rose series. I was hoping the b-roll for that could be screengrabs from your videos. Thanks again for your permission!
@@sunnyhaair Oh right on man! I'll look forward to checking it out!
WOW 13's Never tried that gear of strings. This video is very useful and I found it very interesting Rob. Adding that 4th string sure did help a lot. I may of took a lot of work, but it got the bridge level in the end. As this guitar as a fixed bodied neck, unlike our guitars have a screwed on neck. Does that make it easier or harder to keep the neck and Floyd bridge level ? By the way Rob I have had an email telling me that the parcel that you have sent me is on it's way. I will check my email's to find out when the parcel will be delivered and I'll let you know once it arrives at my home with a phone via Facebook.
Sounds good Darren! I'm excited for it to arrive! And I don't think having a neck thru design vs. a bolt on neck has any effect on your bridge. Cheers man!
What is the best practice on intonation of a Floyd? Cheers!
I'll have to make a video on the topic! I have an intonation video on my channel, but I demonstrate the process on a fixed bridge. While the same principles apply to a Floyd, it is a different animal, and is worthy of it's own video!
Hey what’s up Rob? Maybe you can help. I have a cheapo Squier Show Master That has a Floyd Rose Licensed Bridge. The bridge looks exactly like the one in this video. If I wanted to thro an actual FLOYD ROSE on there, like the one on your guitar in this vid, will it fit right in? Also do you know what FR model is the one in this vid?
Hey man- the bridge in this video, that comes on the 87' Eclipse, is a Floyd Rose 1000 series.
Some people think the 1000 series is just as good as the Original series, some don't. Here's an article on the subject. www.musictoob.com/floyd-rose-1000-vs-original-korean-made-vs-german-made-tremolo/
But, I would think the 1000 series would definitely be an upgrade to the licensed series you have in your Show Master. And I think it would fit just fine. If it were me, I'd take great care in mentally detailing how I disassembled and removed the old bridge, and then meticulously install the new bridge exactly as the old one was.
However, rather than spending money on a new bridge for a "cheapo" guitar as you put it, I'd recommend just upgrading your guitar all together. Perhaps one that comes stock with a nicer Floyd. Because for example, if you have a cheapo car, but you put a high performance engine in it, it's still going to be a cheapo car, with too much engine in it, and it's still going to break down.
Here is a video further explaining my thoughts on the matter, if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/s3NL_MqF-gA/w-d-xo.html
Cheers and good luck!🎸
@@RobArnoldWorldHey! thanks a ton for the response. I call it a cheapo but idk brother, there’s something about it I like. I own a bunch of other “fiddles” 2 LTD Black Metals, Epi Les Paul, Etc. But there’s something about the Squier that feels comfy to me like that baseball cap that fits so well, it doesn’t feel like ur wear a cap at all. If ur not sure what it looks like, it looks JUST like Kirk Hammett’s Skull n Crossbones. With skull n cross one inlays. I have EMG 81x-85’s in it. The stock bridge is blocked off at the moment but I’m thinking I might wanna bring the bridge back to life. Anyway thanks again for the info. I still cry every now and then that Chimaira is no more. But THE ELITE stuff makes wanna rips someone’s face off. I’m a Philly PoPo and sometimes patrol with ur stuff in my patrol car. 🤘🏾😆🤘🏾
@@phillyhank8726 Haha that's awesome man and thanks for your service! Super happy to hear you're digging The Elite too! 🤘
I totally get what you mean about that guitar being comfy. And that makes all the difference in the world. When you've got one that just plays great and feels right, then it's certainly worth maintaining. So go for it!🎸
Is the high e side equally level with the low e side?
I notice that the high E side might sit slightly higher than the low E side, and that's ok. But you wouldn't want too great of a difference.
Hey, do you have any tips for new string stretching on a double locking Floyd? I never seem to get it quite enough, and I usually just delay locking the nut for a few hours of playing (not a pro musician)
Isn't that the biggest annoyance having a new set of strings, stretching everything out, tuning, locking, and then after playing and adjusting the fine tuning a few times you run out of room on one or more of the fine tuning screws and then have to unlock the nut screws to get more...
Yessir- In ALL of my string changing and maintenance videos, I put enormous emphasis on string stretching, so that the problem you're facing doesn't occur. Check out these two videos for a closer look:
th-cam.com/video/AsFuw4Xm8fs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/d27IxfwqBLE/w-d-xo.html
Also, there's an old saying about building a fire in the wilderness, or when you're camping, etc...
"When you think you've collected enough fire wood to keep your fire burning throughout the night, triple or quadruple it from there."
I believe the same applies with stretching strings...
When you think you've stretched them enough, try then doubling or tripling your efforts.
Good luck!🎸
That is seriously nice of you to go and find those links for me! I hope you have a great day man!@@RobArnoldWorld
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This is the exact way how a Floyd rose should be setup, but for some reason every time I purchased a guitar with Floyd rose, they have come with the bridge tilting way too forward. Also a very slight forward tilt is okay, but not too much
Here’s a scenario. Trying to restring with a different gauge, no matter what adjustments you make the bridge still sits like “/“ and I can’t get the strings to pitch AT ALL (some strings will go to pitch and others can’t get passed floppy without knocking everything else out). This is an Ibanez UV70P brand new, switching from Ernie ball super slinky 9-54 to regular slinky 10-56. Tuning is AEADGBe
Sounds like you need to tighten your trem claw screws! Switching to a higher gauge will cause your bridge to pop up in the back like you described, and you can counteract that by tightening the trem claw screws. But perhaps you've already tried that approach, and the issue is something deeper? Anyway, in a couple weeks, I'll be publishing a video where I'm doing a setup on a Floyd equipped guitar, and the new set of strings I plan to put on will effect my float. And so you can see how I'll go about it when only minor adjustments (hopefully) are needed. Keep en eye out!🎸