I Was Contacted! Brendan Kavanagh & the Piano Incident!
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I was watching Brendan's live-stream when this happened. They were all getting along just fine until they told Brendan he was not allowed to have them in their video. He couldn't understand what they were on about, since they had been getting along up to that point. They just kept insisting he wasn't allowed to film them, without any explanation as to why. When they spoke of their NDA, he tried to tell them it didn't apply to him, but they insisted it did. They, in their turn, couldn't understand that. They were also not understanding that British law allows anyone to be filmed in a public space, which is what Brendan was trying to get across. Hence the, "You're not in China now" comment from him. All they had to do was quietly wait their turn and the whole thing would have been avoided. I don't know if it's true or not, but my understanding is that because they were filming for a Chinese television program, they should have had a permit to do so, but didn't. It's pretty unreasonable to expect privacy in a busy train station, anyway.
"We're on a schedule"!
@@stpfs9281 Yes, they did say that, too. In an unreserved public space, how do you expect others to stop what they're doing just to suit you, though? Rather unreasonable.
Brenda's said "we're not in Communist China now" to which they replied "that's racist" so he said "isn't that a communist flag?" then they started shouting
@@stpfs9281 They can't even pronounce schedule - in Britain it's "shedule" not "skedule."
Toby, this is not about China, it's about England. China is not the centre of the universe.
You have to go back to what they name their country. It's 中国 (zhong-guo) which literally means middle country or middle kingdom. I believe it predates the People's Republic of China. But it certainly points out how they thought of their country - as the central country of the world. It did go back to before they had knowledge of the rest of the world though.
That being said, their names for other countries aren't necessarily derisive. For the United States or America it's "mei-guo" which literally means beautiful country. Not sure what the origin is for England/UK, but that's "ying-guo" which I believe means brave country, but I suppose was chosen partly because of a phonetic similarity with "England".
China is not the centre of the universe. But do you honestly think this video/incident would have blown up had that group of people not been of Chinese descent and holding Chinese flags?
Most people love Chinese people However there communist party is infiltrating all countries trying to promote the communist way of thinking and all free countries are HIGHLY offended by this!!
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTUREthis kind of incident is extremely odd. I couldn’t imagine a group of say Mexicans or Ghanaians or Australians anyone really, acting out this way except the Chinese. China is a huge country that for thousands of years has developed with little contact with the world outside. And communism hasn’t helped one single little bit. Today without a vpn most internet isn’t available and most foreign newspapers are difficult to obtain. You might find the occasional businessman with a Financial Times. But the media is utterly controlled. Chinese people though typically bright and hard working are utterly banjaxed by this peculiar environment which is vast and for them, normal. When in reality it actually resembles insanity! I enjoyed my time in China and almost eveyone I met there were really great. But boy am I glad to be back in the uk. The uk is far from perfect but everyone knows that and you don’t have to endure that constant drumbeat. “China is powerful’ ‘ China is the centre of the world’ China is huge so many people’. Basically it’s the west that’s still absolutely massive. Not china. Maybe next century china will overtake Europe and the USA. But not this century. If it adopted a political economy similar to taiwans then it would easily surpass the west. But it ain’t happening so I predict that china will implode under its own too heavy weight.
@MrBlaxjax China has no intention to take over the world, the western world thinks so due to the power that China shows in rising. If you study the history, US is the country which always trying to interfering and control how the rest of the world should be run, seems more like they are the one trying to do whatever it takes to stay on top of the rest!
Why they might be hated or disliked well let's see for starters trying to claim that the part of the sea down past Thailand and west of the Philippines belongs to them and have started building man made islands. for whatever reason. Saying that the little island east of them belongs to them.
Rofl
In fact, during the argument, they took offense at being called communist, not because they were mistaken for being japanese.
I believe in Britain being called a Communist is more offensive than being called Japanese😂
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTURECan anyone tell the difference between a Chinese and a Japanese? Just base on exterior appearance it's near impossible in most cases. However, technically, they share the same roots. Don't believe me! Japanese Kanji, the older firm of written Japanese, are near exact version of the standard Chinese written form. So, is it offensive that someone can be mistaken in saying someone is Japanese or Chinese?
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTURE you totally totally misunderstood statement dude. that Taiwanese are brainwashed to think Taiwan Republic of China (eehh only less than a dozen country recognized it) have nothing to do with China. They (maybe 11millions) may not support People Republic of China but the 1.4 bil + (at least 1, which is me a Malaysian) recognized PRC the sole representative for China and Macao+Hong Kong+Taiwan are part of China
Read the history between the two countries. The Japanese invaded China and murdered so many Chinese (reported to be 6 million), particularly in Nanjing! (now Nanking) The Chinese hate the Japanese, so to be called Japanese is insulting!@@williammore558
@@williammore558 Well, it is like calling a Jew a Nazi.
Can you tell the difference between a Swiss Jew and a German Nazi?
You should, if you do not want to make acquaintance with Krav Maga.
Totally understood, you are in china and you can't talk your minds freely, what do you think of one of the chinese Ms. Liu video she put out to tell " her story"?
Someone below has put the user tag. I’ll watch it fully and reply.
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTURE she told lies
I would say a good deal of it would be the sense of entitlement that many people from the PRC have shown when they are outside of China. Probably not even most, but enough that's it's become a common stereotype. Perhaps years ago it might have been the "ugly American" with the stereotype of traveling internationally and being arrogant, demanding, and self-absorbed. In the last 20 years it's been mainland Chinese overseas as tourists or expats.
One example was the Chinese man on an AirAsia flight who started yelling and whose girlfriend tossed something with hot water at a Thai flight attendant over a seemingly minor dispute about not getting change in their preferred currency (renminbi). But in China they apparently banned the couple from air travel for a few years.
The advent of the internet... and later on, SocMed platforms ... exacerbated the negative image of Chinese people everywhere !
As if by design by the MSM and certain NGOs, Think-tanks, Politicians and vloggers/influencers .
Interesting take, but by now you’d probably know there’s more to it than first impression. I would be interested in takes or lack thereof from Chinese media about current events. On the western media sources, perspectives can be quite skewed when it comes to China. We may not arrive at the truth when seeing both sides but maybe approaching some kind of balance at least. Thanks for your input.
Appreciate the comment 👍
I think the dog video at 3:22 is hilarious!
It really is😂. So many “don’t touch her” videos going around. Can’t fault the humour 😅
Yes, would be interesting to see some analysis - especially the pov from Chinese/Mandarin language channels to gauge both sides of pianogate. I cannot think of british wave flagging nationalism abroad since english football hooligans in the 80's.
Tends to take a monarch's coronation or a successful football tournament for British people to get their flags out.
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTURE
70s era campy James Bond movies. Think Union Jack parachutes.
Chinese social media and netizens in China have overwhelmingly condemned the chinese in this video.
@@markcarson3215Yes, thats what i have seen as well.
@@markcarson3215
Good thing not everyone in China is condemning Newtown and Liu .
Watch the 37 sec mark of DrK full video ... him hinting something bad was happening and that he needed help !
It's a set-up by DrK against the Chinese group.
Didnt your Chinese video show you agreeing with the chinese woman while she was playing card? I saw a chinese youtube lady doing a breakdown on your interview. Ally From China
Reallly? I’d love to see that, I’ll check it out now.
Just had a look. That is not me (as far as I can tell😅) It seems she did have an interview with someone, but not me.
@@MrWANGSGREATADVENTURE My apologies. I binged late at night.
@@ismzaxxon no worries
I'm in the US where "communist" is decidedly pejorative. I don't use the word in that sense but there are numerous historical reasons to make that reasonable. One-party authoritarian rule also is contrary to the values and ideology of most of us. Chinese émigré Ally from China has an informative take on the whole shebang. Further it's become clear that the Chinese involved work as agents of influence in the UK, one possibly serving as a spy. Your rather anodyne take is peculiar to say the least. The aforementioned explain much of the widespread attention given to the incident. If Brits were the interlocutors, I doubt so much attention would result.
None of this is to say that Chinese people, culture, history, language or natural phenomena are unworthy of appreciation and study.
I wouldn’t say my view was anodyne, it was more an attempt to give the Chinese view of this whole thing and then talk about how I was contacted. However you are right “communist” is pejorative in a lot of cultures and that’s why I gave the opinion I did. Stirring up “trouble” is good for views.
Another shill.
Evidence...?
let this incident fizzle, lets not create tensions and biases or grudges where there were none >>
Toby is cool, also but guilty of click baiting...
the inflated anger more than being culturally based was a typical incident of a yound adult male who displays desperate bravado borne out of insecurity and jealousy surrounding his female associate whom he probably had a crush on. let's move on...
Fair comment🤣
Only Newton got offended by DrK's incessant "Communist" remarks .
Liu and Adelina weren't offended by it .
Was new-tone denying that he and his country are communist?
How weird, seeing as how they all answer to the ccp.
Maybe it would affect their social standing score too much?
I found MengYing's interview video, it's on this channel livinlavidaluke
Why?
@@sallyraynor8984 for people trying to hear both side of the story.
After watching this again something has just occurred to me that no one else seems to have picked up on. At 9.08, when Brendan stopped playing a segment, Jim, who had been chatting to the Chinese group, approached Brendan and asked if the Chinese group could use the piano to which Brendan replied - of course, of course. The Chinese girl then approached Brendan and tells him that they want to use the piano for a Chinese tv production and asks if Brendan will be filming them to which Brendan asks if he is not allowed to film them. She then says it’s not allowed to film them and it kicks off from then. I now think that they were simply asking to use the piano for their own tv segment and didn’t want Brendan filming them doing it as they were subject to a non disclosure agreement whereby their segment was not be be published before their own use of it. In hindsight this does not sound like an unreasonable request but unfortunately Brendan had started his livestream event and probably didn’t wish to stop it and probably thought they wanted to join in with him as opposed to using the piano just themselves for their own purposes. What should have happened was a discussion should have been held about how to coordinate Brendan’s segment and the Chinese segment such that the Chinese could get sole access to the piano at some point to film their tv sequence without being filmed by Brendan. This exchange was all friendly. Then Newton Leng got involved and unfortunately his tone was immediately less friendly and very quickly became demanding. He stated that whatever Brendan was doing he didn’t want him to get their faces on camera. What Newton was trying to follow up on I think was that they were wanting to use the piano for their segment and they didn’t want Brendan filming them. Unfortunately there was some miscommunication here and Brendan took it that he was continuing filming his livestream and the Chinese group were attempting to impose restrictions on his filming which he objected to. I’m sure that, if Brendan had fully understood what the Chinese group were trying to do, he would have resolved it with them - perhaps by asking them to wait until his livestream was finished. The opportunity to resolve the misunderstanding and the question of who got the piano when was scuppered when Newton got frustrated at the confusion and decided to get aggressive. It could be that Newton was under the impression that Brendan was refusing (unreasonably from his point of view) to not film them when they were doing their tv segment and this led to the frustration. Newton was definitely wrong to get aggressive and this escalated it to a level that was unrecoverable. The more I think about it this was an unfortunate misunderstanding exacerbated by Newtons decision to get excessively aggressive. If this interpretation is correct the fact that this has been blown up into an international incident is unfortunate and a lesson for all involved.
I certainly noticed that. But the issue was that they used a lot of strong legalese - much of which they might not have fully understood. Especially the "we will put a legal action into it". At that point both sides dug in and weren't backing down.
There have been various explanations from the first woman (Liu) about what their intent was and it's been changing. There was an interview a few days ago where her story changed slightly - that they really wanted this video segment to be a surprise for their friends and family back in China. Now that doesn't sound as demanding
Obviously if she wanted that there was much better language they could have used. But immediately she came out saying their image was "non-disclosable" rather than that they were hoping for this prerecorded segment to be a surprise. That's something where I would think Dr K would have reacted with a lot less hostility if it was more a request rather than a demand.
But it could just be damage control.
@@ypw510 I believe she was referring to their intended filming being non disclosable because they were to be filming a piece for Chinese TV for inclusion in the Chinese New Year TV programme and they were subject to a non disclosure agreement whereby they were not to allow their filming to get out before the TV programme was aired. How they were planning on ensuring that in a public station I don’t think they were able to get their position across the Brendan due to language issues and, unfortunately for everyone, Newton Leng got frustrated and quickly resorted to bullying and intimidation tactics which escalated the exchange totally out of control. I don’t think they fully understood who Brendan was and what he was doing and thought he was just a random block hogging the piano. I think they thought they could squeeze themselves onto the piano and didn’t want to wait around and were trying to ensure that, if they did get on the piano Brendan wouldn’t continue filming them so they wouldn’t breach their non disclosure obligations. They went about it very poorly, especially Newton. I don’t think there was initially any intent to cause trouble but Newtons frustration and clearly natural bullying approach quickly soured the whole thing.
@@donaldsivewright903
Obviously they didn't notice it, but Dr K was clearly getting off after being told that they wanted to use the piano. It could have been over right then and there had they not started making demands.
Previously, Liu was stating that they did have a formal agreement regarding secrecy. And as you hint, how did they intend on enforcing that in a public place? Certainly a lot of their arguments seemed to be that they could somehow enforce that NDA on a third party, which is clearly not practical when the requirement is to record in a public place where everyone has a camera phone.
@@ypw510 Yes, Brendan was willing to let them on the piano but I’m sure he understood it was to be as a part of his live stream whereas the Chinese group would probably have understood it was their turn to do what they wanted to do, not as part of Brendan’s thing. I doubt they appreciated at that time that Brandon was on a live stream. I think they were under the impression that Brendan was letting them use the piano but they didn’t want him to continue filming them, not appreciating he was live streaming, not simply filming for later publishing. I can see where the confusion has arisen. Newton probably thought Brendan was just being awkward by not agreeing not to film them whilst they were getting their shot at the piano, again not realising he was live streaming. Unfortunately he went way, way overboard on the aggression and bullying which prevented any further reasonable discussion. To me the incident was provoked by Newtons excessive approach in trying to get what they wanted. I think that, once he started, it was impossible to stop him going down his path. The Chinese woman was, I think, maybe saying “don’t shouting” (not don’t shoot him as some have suggested) to Newton as she realised it was excessive. It could have been taken as the unnecessary actions of a single individual but it has been blown up into a wider CCP thing and escalated into an example of how CCP operate globally. That may or may not be right but it sits slightly uncomfortably with me I must admit.
@@donaldsivewright903
I get that. However - they were extremely clumsy in how they asked. The whole "not disclosable" and "we will put a legal action into it" was wholly unnecessary.
What would have been better was just something like this:
"We're filming this for Chinese TV to be shown in China, and we were hoping to keep this a surprise for our friends and family there. If you don't record us, we can try to keep this a surprise for them."
He's not really an unreasonable man. But he obviously doesn't react well to being cornered or ordered around. Especially when they were making all sorts of claims about their rights that seemed to supersede his rights.
@6:10…”chinese…blown up…”
Only people in your bridging position see that perspective. And after talking with my Chinese friends, I see it too. When my Chinese friends and I are joking around on that perspective. They’d swap the party to American blacks, and play like watching Dr K pee in his pants. Or swapping ….
All in all, if a dispute cannot be resolved privately, then file for court to decide on the disputed issue.
And that point on, all non-participant talkings are just noisy yapping.
They reported to the police, to escalate the situation, the British Transport Police person was dreadfully condecending.