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- This is my first look recap and impressions of the new WINWING Super Taurus throttle after unboxing it on my twitch live stream the day prior. This is not a review.
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[This is not a review] This is my first look recap and impressions of the new WINWING Super Taurus throttle after unboxing it on my twitch live stream the day prior.
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Sent it to Berry(Simracinggarage), i want see what's inside! *g*
Just got my winwing today. Have not got it entire setup yet, but they did fix the portion of the throttle getting caught on left and right engine. They sent some slightly longer screws with a little plastic spacer that you can put between the handgrip. Simple fix but can't even tell its there.
So i watched the Magz unboxing on them and a little advice from a carpenter: put a metal plate or like a piece of hardwood between the mounting clamps of the throttle and your desk to kind of spread the force of them, otherwise it will make ugly dents in your desk and with the leverage that this thing has on them, you might break a big chunk of wood out of your desk if it’s not quality hardwood like oak. But in that case you will still make ugly dents in your desk.
This. I couldn't believe the disparity between the clamps and the entire hardware.
Sound advice. 👍
No need to feel bad about the live-stream. It was highly appreciated and I hope you do more of these. Looking forward to a full review
Winwin needs to offer the throttle and stick seperately at a later date. This would open up the market for people that already got a high-end stick and gimbal combination. And for about 400 dollars individually for the stick and throttle, the price seems steep but is actually on par with higher-end offerings. I've paid over 400€ for my Virpil gimbal and extention (without stick!) alone, after all.
On the upside, it is great to see new vendors entering this market (like VirPil). On the downside - these prices are stupid. I once built an entire two-seat A320 cockpit for £3000. These prices cannot be justified.
Woah how did you build such a cheap a320 sim? It sounds super awesome :D
Do you have pictures? I am looking for inspiration, since im thinking about building a a320 sim myself.
Woops just went to your channel and found videos of the sim :D It looks awesome.
the problem is most likely the quantities they produce, this is a very niche product so the production runs will be quite small and therefore expensive. If let's say logitech would create this product and sell it to its usual audience the price would probably be half.
NWO.
@@DaGhost141 Logitech can't really justify making something this niche, though. Economies of scale work great for things that everybody want, but not everybody is going out to buy a Rolls Royce. Quality degrades as volume goes up, both as a matter of cost and a matter of QC.
So while Logitech could make something of high quality, the pricing would only be marginally less for the same QC quality and design competence.
Thanks for the first look. Gave me mixed thoughts. Damn big!
Don't understand why they would include battery/ ground switches (in the wrong place), yet not include the flaps switch and landing gear lever. Dumb move!
Thing looks amazing, but I’m extremely skeptical until proven otherwise on reliability and cost-performance ratio given how much this costs.
I've had mine 5 months now, using at least twice a week or so for VR flying in DCS, it's great. I think the panel portion of it could be more useful (the ground power stuff is really puzzling), but the throttle is second to none and that's what I needed. It's built like a tank, holding up great.
@DrumGunner thanks for this! I just ordered the Taurus and libra and was still a bit skeptical as I paid close to 1500usd all in. After reading this, I think I’ve made the right choice!
@DrumGunner Thanks for your insight, much appreciated.
And I thought the Warthog was expensive, damn!
You can drop over 350€ (net + shipping + taxes) for a GIMBAL from Virpil alone (the VPC MongoosT-50CM2). Without the stick itself and without a mounting solution. The prices on the Winwin HOTAS are high for a piece of hardware, but the other boutique or high end manufacturers are as expensive.
Most good flight sim hardware are expensive.
@@GeFlixes You could still get a WarBRD with a warthog stick for cheaper.
@@SatThuVoBui yes. It's still 200+€ for a gimbal, and again about 150€ for a stick (a TM f18,a Warthog or one of virpils own offerings). That's between 300-400 for the stic/gimbal part of the HOTAS, Which is roughly where the Winwin product would be of you separated stick from throttle. That is to say, they're price competitive.
@@GeFlixes I got the new throttle, new base and new fighter stick from Virpil with 2 desk mounts and a base extension for 1000€. That was a lot of dough, but with the premium Virpil stuff I am SET for good. I don't have to think about buying something new forever, if it doesn't break.
This is just a clunky throttle that looks very made in china for NINEHUNDRED DOLLAR!???
No!
Thanks for the quick peek and the time+resources spent giving us that!
And thanks for specifying it's not a review.
Looks like a nice solid throttle for those not wanting to tinker something up themselves.
On the less positive side (Catch 22, hence, why I'm glad Jabbers said it's not a review) I've been checking out WinWing's website and facebook, and it appears they're trying to tidy up their ship as far as back-orders are concerned.
So far it's mostly the YT/Twitch people that got their stuff first, and there's nothing wrong with that, but staying on the safe end of the stick (like Jabbers did) never hurt anyone.
Those who had dealings with CSIO and their truck shifter for ATS/ETS2 will definitely know what I mean.
It's best if people took that to heart and let WinWing complete those orders (which will let them earn a bit of trust in the process) before rushing their orders in en-masse, remember that in a over-saturated niche market, where good product = a lot of dough, money is hard to come by for both manufacturers and customers alike.
They also have expressed that we (the streamers/youtubers) are their testers and are asking me (and I would assume the others) for feedback and what can be improved.
Great review. I think I'll be cancelling my pre-purchase. I wanted a replica, not a button box and I had thought thats what was coming. I wonder if anyone else is making a throttle.
Thank you very much for this concise review, Jabbers - good stuff! I'm actually thinking of writing a letter to Santa Stieglitz right now...😋 But seriously though, this chunk of throttle is on watch from now.
For that money it should be an exact layout replica.
nice incite into the design, one tip, there is another use for differential thrust, that is for planes like the B-1, B-47, etc, multi-engine planes, which use this to taxi, using the outboard engines to turn the craft, where at taxi speeds, the rudder is not effective, and there is no nose wheel steering. so great to have the touch to do it, without any mechanical interference.
True, but no Sim ive played has this so not something I thought of
Very well demonstrated ... Congratulations !! Won a subscriber !! GO GO GO !!
I don't have the Super Taurus but it looks amazing, I just wish that friction lever would be added to the Orion 2. I know you could say "you're paying more" but still, that's super easy and would be super helpful.
Three minutes and seventeen seconds of SOLID jibber jabber
Just living up to that name
I thought the Warthog and the Virpil HOTAS were impressive but this is next level, I can't believe there's a market for for this and people make it / buy it. But then if you're really into something then there are no limits! Enjoy.
WOW, 2 and half years later and this thing is still on pre-order! Clearly its not what they claim!
You lost me at an increase of $300.
it was 799 now its 899. sorry out of my price range
I have the money, but I'm not easily parted from it.
@@bailey2624 build it yourself. it not cost that much in reality
For half the price you can get a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog and for another 150 you can get the F18/C handle for it if you so wish. This Winwing thing looks cool but judging by the way he's lifting it and turning it etc, I reckon it lacks the weight of the Warthog, certainly the throttle. Still though, this does look cool
@@MrWiggo91 u can buy a f18 plate for your throttle on etsy for 25bucks
The lack of flaps lever is a deal breaker.
and the price, and the fact there are no LED buttons and other alternate style switches. everything is that chrome hard to switch switch. Be nice with a couple rotary.
Splitting throttles quickly is very important when you need to recover from a flat spin in an F-14. Idle one, Full throttle engine on outside of spin, pitch forward, hard rudder against spin.
That's actually not something a real pilot would ever do. Also in bthe 14 the real procedure you would pull aft stick
@@Jabbers oh really? But the internet said… 😆 I got it from somewhere, opposite rudder, opposite throttle, forward stick. I mean real procedure still lost a lot of real F-14s too! Maybe do a flat spin recovery video for the F14, there’s going to be a big appetite for F14 vids with top gun 💯 love your videos!
Yeah I think they should of had flaps and gear instead of some of the other switches.
Should have
wow they really going to hike the price up wtf
Holy damn and I thought after getting virpil setup there is no way im gonna see anything better for a while.
Make the throttle and stick available as separate purchases and I would buy something. It just makes your market to your customers much more flexible. There’s a lot of people out there who could benefit from one or the other and not exactly both at the same time.
So they left the freaking ground power switches in and on top of that got them completely wrong. Those are ground crew switches and they are NOT momentary switches.. they are A and B position switches designed to only turn on certain circuits for ground testing.. A total waste of real estate for a HOTAS system. and even worse than with the momentary switches they are even more worthless and inaccurate.
Are the Ground power switches perhaps magentically held in position in the real jet? If so, maybe they did the same thing as with the APU switch and made them temporary switches as making them magnetically held is most likely cost prohibitive.
Honestly, the more the merrier. They most likely will get reassigned to hook toggle, landing geear toggle, master arm/master mode toggle and what not. I heard/saw mentions from several real-life pilots that they didn't touch them once in their whole carrer.
@@GeFlixes The switches are momentary switches if held in A or B for less 3 seconds but act as toggles if held for longer than 3 seconds. They'll return to center once GND PWR Reset is cycled. Like he said they're strictly maintenance switches and aircrew will never use them.
@@Ayetsu Aren't they used when starting off the external power? The NATOPS calls for 1,2 and 4 in B position for external power start. Is that not used in actual operations?
@@GeFlixes Nope very POSITIVE 3 way switches. A OFF B I was a Avionics Tech on F/A-18A-Ds I used those switches daily. position A and B switched on various systems they had it set so ground maintenance checklists only turned on the very minimum of systems. So a checklist would say turn switch 1 to A turn switch 2 to B.. etc..
@@delayed_control Nope. BATT, APU, Crank. Obviously L and R GEN switches as well but those are rarely switched off.
Laughs at my x-box one controller
The reason why they didn't have the switch work like the real Hornet is because it is very expensive. The real one costs $580 in orders of 500, $800 for 1. If you are interested, its the Honeywell M5594/3-1. I wanted to build a button box with a switch like that until I saw the price.
Insane
I need a Super Taurus with the CM3 throttle grip and the CM3 mode dial.
Great vid I watched the twitch stream also which was very informative. But if this goes up in price as much as you say it will then I will most probably be out. That would be over A$1500 before postage, import tax etc.. Looks like I'll be replacing my broken warthog with a new warthog or save for another 6 months to get this and no DCS in the meantime.
Thanks Jabbers. I love my F/A18 stick from Thrustmaster but would like to get this throttle. Hate to buy both knowing I'd just use the throttle.
I think for the price they should include a right forward panel w/battery, bleed air, radar, ins, etc. And a gear/ flaps panel.
Ty for the info and quick insights
If you are building an F-18 cockpit, this is what you want.
If you are playing a bunch of different modules in DCS, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous and X-Wing...
Get an X56 Rhino
I want to buy this but they have no stock. How frequently are they added?
A quick look at their website, it screams low grade Chinese quality. For that kind of money, I'd rather have something with less bells but more durability
I dont think so, why does it for you? Can you explain that a little bit more?
You know China makes every cellphone you've ever owned, right? Chinese isn't cheap. Chinese is everything.
Sorry to point this out, but i think your bracket is on incorrectly. The bars go on the outside.
I'm late to the party! What are the dimensions of the unit? If I'm putting this in a side console housing, is it a drop in unit? Are there other mounting points on the housing? Looking to see what options are available to me if I use this in a sim cockpit. Thanks!
Very nice piece of hardware, but holy fuck that price tag is insane...
wuaoooo impresionante HOTAS me encanta ojala tenerlo algún día
Question on the MIL detent if you have time; Is it at 50% on the axis?
Hmmm...when is it going back on preorder? It currently $100 more expensive than preorder.
A $Hundred more reasons to give it a miss..
I would like to point out it already costs 1000$ to own
Can you mount it from the bottom or does it need to be mounted with the hanging gear?
It would not be very sturdy as the coasting is sheet metal
If its not going to be a 100% representation then they should have just used those spaces for things that made more sense. In my opinion.
is this right up there with Virpil and Thrustmaster Throttles? I would assume that Thrustmaster warthog is the top dog due to it having back-lighting and a good amount of switches . I am also reading that the first VIrpil throttle (iteration #1) is right up there in the top 5 (back-lit, detents, and lots of switches buttons, and tons of things), true? By the way, great audio quality in your video. I notice you have acoustics on the wall, very smart.
Does anyone know if it’s compatible with the Volair Sim cockpit? As far as screw holes and throttle height.
all the electronics there, if you order each part from aliexpress, costs 20$ hehe
So which HOTAS do you use on a daily basis?
Prior to receiving this it was the Warthog throttle and Virpil WarBRD base + TM F-18/A-10 grip. Time will tell if that changes :)
Impµlse Slider - Thrustmaster T16000m HOTAS Throttle Upgrade install - th-cam.com/video/uXqHUsm0cho/w-d-xo.html
MIL is a real thing I think
It means military power which is basically the power that’s 0% to 100% before the afterburner (MAX)
Right but it's not in the center of the throttle, mil power is 96%
I knew 100% sounded a bit too much
the maximum power setting of a military jet aircraft without the use of afterburners
Ahhhhh thx jabbers you da best
Gear and flaps are not anywhere on the throttle quadrant. This is a replica. TM Warthog doesn't have a gear switch either because it's somewhere else in the real jet. So not sure about this complaint.
Well the TM has a landing gear warning silence button which I use as the gear switch... but you are right. I will have to find something on here to use instead. But this isnt really a replica considering it has the wrong switches in the wrong spots, But it all became clear and stated in my next video (about the stick) that they plan on selling panels with the other components (landing gear lever, flats, etc) for your desk or to be mounted. Something I found out after this video.
this might seem like a silly question, but what game were you playing in the intro when the ordinance explodes? That game, whatever it may be, looks like something I have to have. THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!
The intro is something I made in after effects
Looks a lot like DCS: World.
any advice or resources for setting this thing up? I'm feeling like a moron right now.
Do you know what they mean by "PSU Include"? PSU typically means power supply unit, but isn't this just usb? Or does it just mean a cord?
No idea, I don't recall a psu for this.
Thanks
I would buy the throttle alone, possibly even without mounts and panel to save some bucks.
Super review Thanks
Reading through some of the comments here, I'm amazed at the price of those honeywell magnetic retention toggle switches... $1600 AU for just 1 switch. Also people have commented on the niche application versus price of this unit. IMO the best setups I have seen are where the person has used multiple touch screens and helios to mimmick different cockpits, this way one has full access to any type of cockpit by merely changing the Helios profile. twstatic.net/attachments/img_0438-jpg.1230401/ One minute this could be a Ka-50 the next an F-14 or F18 or a10, space ship, etc...
I use helios for the front panel for a while, it straight up sucks, badly, there is no way to tell if you actually pressed a button or to locate a button in the blind. End up get TM MFD and build a UFC panel and only use helios for backup gauges and some small switch and buttons.
Looks like an awesome piece of kit. A bit pricey though. I wish they were selling the stick and throttle separately.
they do now . . .but everything is on waiting list these days
Can’t understand why my back lights aren’t coming on an help
Gonna need to contact winwing
Thanks for the vid. Looks nice but impractical. I think the mounting will probably wreck many desks. I'll stick with my warthog throttle at least till the vkb one comes out.
Will it, though?
TheLT I'm happy with my warthog modded throttle to be honest. If it ever gets built I'll consider it. I do like vkb stuff .
How did you make your opening chanel animation? I really like it.
After effects and about 9 hours of time and patience
@@Jabbers Wow and Yikes. It does look good however.
Can the throttle be bought stand alone?
Unfortunately not right now
Don't worry - they won't be selling many at that price, so will be gagging to sell as many items as they can seperately in no time lol.
Possible to order just the throttle ?
Not currently afaik
Jabbers thanks for the quick answer jabbers. Currently own a modded Warthog throttle, a Virpil WRBRD base with a 10cm extension and the hornet stick. Do you feel the upgrade is worth it for the throttle ? I just admit that these mechanical throttle are really tempting me. I always thought the warthog throttle felt cheap.
What do you say ? Pull the trigger on this ? Or wait for V2 with bugs fixed and improvements ?
I can then decide if I want to part with the stick or keep it too
@@dunbar555 'Felt cheap' LOL yes I feel you. They build the thing out of solid metal and then just use semi-quality, creaky plastic for the part you actually touch most often. The Winwin throttle looks awesome, they definitively should sell it separately. Needs an option to disable the AB detend, though, for non-AB aircraft or helis.
Is this backlit? Can you demonstrate? Thanks for the video tutorial !!! Subscribed!
Yes it's back lit but I can't demonstrate as I no long have the throttle
@@Jabbers oh ok,, pretty sizable unit, did you have to rent a crane to get it out of your house?
No way is this hardware worth the price they are asking. The ROI isn't there.
$800 bucks ? Holy smokes.
Jabbers, think this throttle is overkill for a sole F-14 driver?
Yes. Spending $899+ for an F-18 setup when you aren’t planning on even using it for that aircraft is a bit overkill.
Whats wrong with the sound? other than that great video.
can the throttle be split for left and right engines?
Yes
Do they have the Nacho Libre??
MIL: is for the standard military power setting. MAX: is for maximum power or combat power (emergency power) usually only 2 min max
I understand what it is, but MIL label is in the center of the throttle, not where the AB detent is. looks like the neutral detent was made for space gaming, forward and reverse.
@@Jabbers, Roger good video Sir:
but why no focus :(
how did you go and buy it do you have to email them etc?
I think sales are closed right now till they get through all the preorders
Plot Twist, the Throttle runs an entire TikTok Server.
"That's not a problem when you mount it" - Tell me where you went to school, so I don't send anyone there. Do you you know momentum is?:
th-cam.com/video/-e1GEtgSN9o/w-d-xo.html
Oh good a link to a hardware reviewer who never has anything constructive to say. Yes please show me more 🤣
Is there anything else you could recomend as a replacement for my X55 throtle ?
Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS is the good mid-range option. It's almost 3 times as expensive as a X55 but the price isn't ridiculous yet. It's a good piece of hardware with a few shortcomings. Virpil has throttles as well, they don't sell complete HOTAS systems (you get to pick and choose) and have boutique quality and prices (If you're brosing their shop: Everthing is without tax !! and shipping can get expensive). I've heard someting about a VKB TECS throttle but that's in development and won't be ready until indeterminate future (at least that's what I've heard in the forum/reddit grapevine).
@@GeFlixes Virpil stuff is available intermediate giving they arent a big company. You order and depending on when you order you might have to wait. I think they are a bit better than the TM Warthog but they are a bit more expensive.
@@destrocrimson yes. I got lucky with mine and my order arrived within 2 week's time. But that's an issue with all the smaller hardware manufacturers.
Thanks guys. Already have the warthog stick, just wasnt sure if I wanted the throtle. Guess Ill take it :P
@@Star-xx5zr -- I've heard Warthog sticks are the bees-knees and their throttle as well. How do they stack up to Virpil. I'm guessing very well.
looks like my son just made it out of Maccano - sticking with my Virpil setup i think
5:07 not worth money unless its 100% all left panel. its cheaper build forself.
for simuser its best use every switch momentary. you not need pre click everything before game open. you open game on FLY. buttons not match lol(if let sim read hotas and match controls. your start in flight end up dead aircraft dropping down.if your switch are off position) momentary switches better. it dosent matter if you click switch on if its allready on nothing happen. you just not see is it on from switch,but good builder add led for every switch let you know what is it.its sim not real
Is it my Tablet or is the sound Horrible?
Sound seemed ok on my end, not the best quality due to mic distance and fans on cause it was hot af lol
Someone should COPY this throttle, perhaps Cambodia :D.
For that size its not as heavy as the Warthog? And costs more than the cost of a Warthog throttle AND stick? Check please!
Heavy doesn't mean it should cost more lol
@@Jabbers Lol regardless it's overpriced. The desk mount is a godsend though, they probably know it won't fit on most desk tops.
Overpriced maybe slightly, the desk mount is complete shit imo though I'd rather go with FoxxMount of Monstertech
I don't really like the "grab it now for 'cheap'" type selling. Especially when it is not cheap and for something unproven, also with a very small (in the PC peripherals market) user base to sell to. They have at least a year before the chosen few and those that buy it build a reputation for the units. I get that they make great commercial equipment, but that is a different sector with different demands on after care and usage hours.
I’m not selling it to you, I have no stake in it or the company. I do have several people in my community who have been asking and that’s who it was mostly directed to
@@Jabbers that's directed at them not you good sir! You are just giving information!
Wish I could just buy the Throttle.
I saw magz video and thought this looked cool I fly war birds tho so the throttles hitting each other is bad news
Seems a waste to have semi-replica switches mapped to things you use ONE time in startup... Battery, ground power, etc. Unless you're trying to build a cockpit and this is just one small piece of it, 75% of the switches aren't really useful... I can just mouse click those during startup... I want buttons, hats and 4-ways on the throttle that I can map to stuff I need while flying without looking down trying to mouse click... weapons, radar, etc. and for something the size of a suitcase, it's a lot of wasted useage. I went with the Virpil CM3, which has a lot of the stuff you need and flexibility with mapping.
Do you know of they take kidneys as a down payment?
You're going to need to find a 3rd party mobster for that one
@@Jabbers hey i need to pay somehow for the VR set, Super Processor, Super GPU , controls etc xD
In China? Yes.
I think I will keep playing with my M$ Sidewinder :)
What is needed is playtime . Hours put in . Review .
Correct, and thats why I stated this wasn't a review ;)
$799.95USD im good
First impressions is, if you're having issues, save your money. Just part way through and I see not for me.
gotta say, this guy looks like Danny McBrides older brother
Unless your a hardcore flyer this is worthless. To expensive but looks and I bet it works awesome.
Now, if you could just make it affordable for "normal" people.
Geez. Just get the Warthog and call it a day.
Wear a sun Glass then no one knows you are not actually looking at them. :-D
neat throttle but to expensive for my taste
For that much money I want 1 to 1 model. Only the hard core will pay for this so give them what they want. I want to build a full cockpit this would be worthless. Thrustmaster's Warthog did it right.
This throttle is 1:1 and is 10X better than TH warthog, which can't even come close to this throttle. I guess it looks even more real than Bugeye F-18 throttle, IMHO the price for this HOTAS is much lower than it actually should be. Take a look at ugly throttletek F-18 with a price tag of 899$ ( only throttle, no side panel no joystick)
Ridiculous price. I've see a few of these sent out to "TH-camrs" None of them have convinced me that this sort of stuff is a game changer. Just fancy toys for people who have to much money and don't do anything else.
It's absolutely not a game changer, it's all personal preference. I've seen people play dcs better than I can with a mouse and keyboard.. Or a Xbox controller. The point is some people want immersion and as real as possible replica hardware, and if they want to pay what it takes to get it, so be it.. And if you don't that's fine too
@@Jabbers I understand. Believe me I want replica hardware for immersion and have got stuff that provides that although VR has helped immensely in that way. For me it feels like a massive money grab. All the best.
It is priced a bit high yes
5:36 again not worth money. mixed from left and right. would not even pay 100 for just trottle, it not cost that much build. its not milled aluminium with 17 hours highspeed milling with 2 flute0.5 radius tool taking of microns every pass and make surface SMOOTH. that would cost 100,but it would sold 300 lol. would you pay 300 for gear handle.when gear works without knob lol