Beautifully formed, it's remarkable just how much elasticity there is in steel! This video was made even more enjoyable by it not having a music soundtrack. Subscribed!
I have shaped metal hollow forms by hammers and stakes, by presses and english wheels. This is such a clean and simple process. Your results are amazing! It seems i have been inspired to add to my skillset and workshop!
In school, I built an explosive forming chamber about a third of that diameter. I used a shotgun shell (pellets removed) to push aluminum sheet (soft alloy 1100) into a steel die, with water as an incompressible buffer. Because of the fast forming time, I didn't need a very good seal so I could just smear some grease on the edge of the clamp and let a bit of water squirt out. It worked really well, but I could only use so many ashtrays... One thought: you could use your pump system to make tubular objects from 2 sheets of flat stock welded together around the edge, like perhaps a 2-stroke engine's expansion chamber.
Years back we welded a 3m Dia disc 5mm thick to a steel table and blew a dome, had an air bleed off in the center so only water under pressure. when dome was about 500 high welds started making wierd eerie sound, then a crack opened, the jet of water from the crack spurted across a gap of 3m and blew the wall out of the portacom office and knocked it off it's foundations.
We have been doing this for a long time too, only we do not drill the workpiece. We have a groove on one of the rings and a bead on the other. Tightening the bolts creates a lock. We press with oil.
Thank you everyone for the comments, it has been fun reading them. Here is a video of what I build with the part I made in this video, it is called a handpan. th-cam.com/video/sWYemIbwKns/w-d-xo.html
Nice work, would it be possible to hydroform something into a form with a certain shape? say, a car hood or something like that? if one would make like a form from concrete, make a print in the concrete in the desired shape and then hydroform it against this form? like a stamp but with no moving parts??? You think this would work?
Watched that whole VIdeo... never saw it levitate or phase shift into the 4th dimension ... does it actually work? ..or is it only good for playing music on?
With all due respect, it’s a great setup. You may find that throttling your pressure with a quarter-turn ball valve will eventually wear out the ball. It might be worth your while to replace with a gate valve. Just my two cents.
No I think if he replaced it with a parallel moving valve of the staeter to make it virtually frictionless and have a motor that is in parallel with the gurtle flux to make a semi condative unitanier complex would be better.
It's awesome! But please change the placement of the white extension cord to somewhere else, water is a good conductor if something fails to seal properly :)
Hello. maybe someone has told you before or maybe you have tried. I do not know. I think if you heat the piece and use hot water, it will get an easier and beautiful shape.still looks very good. I like it, good luck
Lovely process. Just a thought, if you put an electric solenoid valve in the hydraulic line and a contact on the top of the gauge it would turn itself off at exactly the right time. Neat eh?
I am very impressed with the build quality, the heavy duty aspect of everything to keep it from coming apart and the 'simplistic' nature of the assembly. So, what are you using the domed metal for, and what alloy of steel did you use, if that was important to stretching the dome. (And I like the 'no frills' and 'no extra talking' parts of this video!
Excellent, put zinc spray on your bolt threads, it’s a dry lubricant barrier and stops thread galling. A polycarbonate cover over that would be a good safety measure, your don’t always know the quality of the steel your dealing with particularly lately with so much old recycled steel going into steel production the carbon level is up and becoming a problem. I’m guessing you may be using panel steel... If you have a rupture your going to get intense discharge due to elasticity and potential to loose an eye. Operating the stop and release remotely via a drive tube with lever attached would be a safe option. Awesome result and good uniformity, your would beat a metal spinner on quality..
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the specific geometry of that particular type of form is parabolic no? It strikes me that this would be an ideal way to form perfect solar concentrators. Just put a pipe at the focal point and bam.
With water, there won't be any explosion, just a water leak. Water does not compress, so there isn't really any danger of a violent decompression. With air or steam on the other hand.......
This is very impressive I hate to be a lurker but I want to remind people you'll be using High pressures doing this and there's a lot of danger involved so use your heads this guy obviously planned ahead and has things well in hand
Don't let there be any air in the system, and keep back during operation. If it springs a leak, well, a pressure washer can cut soft wood if it's right at the nozzle. Want to be a few feet away.
Omg here comes the safety police. Better get your govt safety division issued foam, bubble wrap and helmet back on. Somebody's here to ruin the party. Get a grip. Ppl don't need to be told that coffees hot, but if they do then let em burn the bejeezus outta their own crotch. Survival of the fittest only works if you let dumb ppl continue to do dumb sh@#!
Hello there, awesome job, the part seems neat!! Would you be willing to share some more details about the setup? Like your plumbing? What kind of sheet metal are you using?
I found the world of Hand Pan Makers to be pretty secretive but it doesn't hurt to ask. One thing I learned was the top and the bottom are made from two dissimilar metals and how you join the two is a big part of the sound.
The material thickness is 1.2mm, I use both 430 stainless, and 1008 steel. I generally achieve an overall dome height of around 5 inches, with around 500psi on 430, and 400psi on 1008 at a diameter of 21 inches. The pump is rated for 2175 psi at 3 gallons per minute.
Nope, water is non-compressable, air is. Plus if you could vacuum metal into form, vacuum chambers wouldn't be possible, plus some vacuum chambers are made from acrylic plastic.
@@runcycleskixc the pressure would have more overall force as area increases, but the material being formed and how far it is stretched has a great deal of influence on final pressure. 18ga 430 stainless takes 550 psi to reach a "depth" of 5 inches for this 21 inch diameter part, and if I try to go more than 5 inches, the part will tear. When using 18ga 1008 steel, I can go over 6 inches of "depth" with no failure and never exceeding 450psi. 430 stainless has far less elongation than 1008 cold rolled sheet.
I would like to ask you some questions. I have a Final Year Project for my Mechanical Engineering Degree which involves hydroforming. How can I get hold of you?
(almost) nothing happens. as the name implies hydroforming uses water which is pretty much incompressable, which means that unlike when using air which compresses and therefore takes up a lot of energy while beeing compressed and would erupt explosively only the relatively small volume of water in the bent dome would escape slowly. Maybe sqirt out a little in the beginning due to the spring in the material, but nevertheless: super safe.
@Yo ming he used water. hence the name: HYDROforming. you can clearly hear the noise of a high pressure water pump like used in a pressure washer (most likely what he uses) a well as you can see the high pressure water hose. he only used air to purge out the water in the end i think. ;)
So TH-cam's algorithm has decided I'm into hydroforming these days...
me too
saaame
But that isn't all bad... We just learned how we can do it ourselves. :-)
Y'all and me both. Interesting stuff.
you are not the only one
I finally learned how flying saucers are made
Seems you must be married then, LOL.
even sounds like one at the end.
If he doesn't keep an eye on the pressure, you might also learn how they fly. ;-D
It turned out perfect, what ever it is.
Looks like a hang drum
Salad bowl ?
ufo
3:45 it's communicating with the mothership
helmets for iflated Brit heads?
I like how he numbered all the bolts so he tightens them in the correct sequence every time.
Beautifully formed, it's remarkable just how much elasticity there is in steel!
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Well, it doesn't jump back to its original form, so there's no elasticity here. You mean plasticity?
@@fuerLutzi D U C T I L I T Y
This is even more impressive seeing as hes a professional drum maker.
Ductility, yeah. The metal itself is very ductile if not hardened.
I have shaped metal hollow forms by hammers and stakes, by presses and english wheels. This is such a clean and simple process. Your results are amazing! It seems i have been inspired to add to my skillset and workshop!
In school, I built an explosive forming chamber about a third of that diameter. I used a shotgun shell (pellets removed) to push aluminum sheet (soft alloy 1100) into a steel die, with water as an incompressible buffer. Because of the fast forming time, I didn't need a very good seal so I could just smear some grease on the edge of the clamp and let a bit of water squirt out. It worked really well, but I could only use so many ashtrays... One thought: you could use your pump system to make tubular objects from 2 sheets of flat stock welded together around the edge, like perhaps a 2-stroke engine's expansion chamber.
Years back we welded a 3m Dia disc 5mm thick to a steel table and blew a dome, had an air bleed off in the center so only water under pressure. when dome was about 500 high welds started making wierd eerie sound, then a crack opened, the jet of water from the crack spurted across a gap of 3m and blew the wall out of the portacom office and knocked it off it's foundations.
what the what? I have to research the hydroforming principles! Looks really well done and a beautiful part! Thanks for posting!
We have been doing this for a long time too, only we do not drill the workpiece. We have a groove on one of the rings and a bead on the other. Tightening the bolts creates a lock. We press with oil.
I have been considering doing that as well. It also removes the need for an o-ring for sealing.
Never heared about hydroforming. Great post!!
Thank you everyone for the comments, it has been fun reading them. Here is a video of what I build with the part I made in this video, it is called a handpan.
th-cam.com/video/sWYemIbwKns/w-d-xo.html
Nice work, would it be possible to hydroform something into a form with a certain shape? say, a car hood or something like that? if one would make like a form from concrete, make a print in the concrete in the desired shape and then hydroform it against this form? like a stamp but with no moving parts???
You think this would work?
Watched that whole VIdeo... never saw it levitate or phase shift into the 4th dimension ... does it actually work? ..or is it only good for playing music on?
Wok's one of those then ?
It's like a steel drum except convex instead of concave.
@@theservant2646
Maybe try it ?
Then make a video to show everyone.
so clutch. This is my favorite hydroforming channel.
Great job. Thanks for the show Panie Smith:)
pretty cool wok making machine man
nice way to make shields for them reenactment groups
With all due respect, it’s a great setup. You may find that throttling your pressure with a quarter-turn ball valve will eventually wear out the ball. It might be worth your while to replace with a gate valve. Just my two cents.
No I think if he replaced it with a parallel moving valve of the staeter to make it virtually frictionless and have a motor that is in parallel with the gurtle flux to make a semi condative unitanier complex would be better.
That is so cool, well done!
NICE ONE....I studied the process in Material Forming Processes.
I knew this process but it's always amazing watch again and again!
Wow that's very cool! Well Done!!
Nice sounding compressor. Good build!
CONGRATULATIONS IT IS EXCELENT, greetins from ARGENTINA
That works amazingly well.
It's awesome! But please change the placement of the white extension cord to somewhere else, water is a good conductor if something fails to seal properly :)
Hello. maybe someone has told you before or maybe you have tried. I do not know. I think if you
heat the piece and use hot water, it will get an easier and beautiful
shape.still looks very good. I like it, good luck
That's a pretty sweet hubcap
Lovely process. Just a thought, if you put an electric solenoid valve in the hydraulic line and a contact on the top of the gauge it would turn itself off at exactly the right time. Neat eh?
Way more talent than i harbor, but damn son thats a ton of bolts.
That was impressive as all hell!
You haven't seen the craftsmen of INDIA do the same thing MANUALLY with blanks and BARS.
I am very impressed with the build quality, the heavy duty aspect of everything to keep it from coming apart and the 'simplistic' nature of the assembly. So, what are you using the domed metal for, and what alloy of steel did you use, if that was important to stretching the dome. (And I like the 'no frills' and 'no extra talking' parts of this video!
I concur. Though I would love to see more hydroforming.
top left on top of kiln maybe a clue to what he uses it for?
@@hydrotech6822 th-cam.com/video/JX8qvn5QTsY/w-d-xo.html
@@hydrotech6822 Very observant, nice one.
@Ethan Smith Doesn’t look quite like an effective one, looks like it’d roll.
Excellent, put zinc spray on your bolt threads, it’s a dry lubricant barrier and stops thread galling.
A polycarbonate cover over that would be a good safety measure, your don’t always know the quality of the steel your dealing with particularly lately with so much old recycled steel going into steel production the carbon level is up and becoming a problem.
I’m guessing you may be using panel steel...
If you have a rupture your going to get intense discharge due to elasticity and potential to loose an eye.
Operating the stop and release remotely via a drive tube with lever attached would be a safe option.
Awesome result and good uniformity, your would beat a metal spinner on quality..
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the specific geometry of that particular type of form is parabolic no? It strikes me that this would be an ideal way to form perfect solar concentrators. Just put a pipe at the focal point and bam.
who knows, it might even be hyperbolic cosine shaped like a hanging wire is
That is an ideal application for this process, the purpose for the dome he just produced is a frying pan
Its good you have a safety tarp up to protect the people in the next room (county?) from an explosion ;)
With water, there won't be any explosion, just a water leak. Water does not compress, so there isn't really any danger of a violent decompression. With air or steam on the other hand.......
Arnljot Seem good point! I was mostly just trying to make a lame joke. But I would not want to stand in front of that 20000 psi water leak.
@@rivernet62 I have promblem thinking a 150psi walmart pressure washer could reach 20000 psi...
Most. Expensive. Wok. Ever.
Acho que ele se inspirou no Leandro Torneiro kkk. Parabéns.
There's TH-cam channels where you can watch paint dry in real time. . . but this is sooo much more interesting.
Great commentary, wonderful story telling.
The third act was a bit lacking...
Explosive hydroforming would do that job in the blink of an eye. And it'd be a lot more fun!
They do it. How do I know? TH-cam decided I should see that next.....
th-cam.com/video/96yhdnhPxAw/w-d-xo.html
So this is what a wok factory looks like.
I thought a wok was something you throw at a wabbit.
that was amazing , was sure what to expect by hydroforming
Awesome ..... wow ..1962 salt flats car hubcaps!
Important question, does this make a spherical dome or a parabolic dome?
Holy pan drum Batman that’s cool!
You mean hang?
round metal thing ASMR?
hell yeah
Hey Colin, you should tell Latex Lucy how to get these. I am interested.
Very nice video! What is your high pressure water source and maximum pressure output? Keep your videos coming! Thanks.
English medieval helmet turned out!
Английский средневековый каска получилась !
This is very impressive I hate to be a lurker but I want to remind people you'll be using High pressures doing this and there's a lot of danger involved so use your heads this guy obviously planned ahead and has things well in hand
It's not as dangerous as you think, using uncompressible liquids there is no expansion like there would be if using compressed gasses.
Don't let there be any air in the system, and keep back during operation. If it springs a leak, well, a pressure washer can cut soft wood if it's right at the nozzle. Want to be a few feet away.
The worst of it is that a pressure washer is also high enough pressure to inject dirt and other infection-causing stuff deep under the skin.
Omg here comes the safety police. Better get your govt safety division issued foam, bubble wrap and helmet back on. Somebody's here to ruin the party. Get a grip. Ppl don't need to be told that coffees hot, but if they do then let em burn the bejeezus outta their own crotch. Survival of the fittest only works if you let dumb ppl continue to do dumb sh@#!
At 0:50 I heard AvE say *Click!*
Nah... It's CoinTacked!
Corntack!
That's an amazing way to make a wok. :-)
that would be an amazing way to make a hemisphere
So I know this was back. few years.
What are you making with this project?
Thanks for sharing this.
Great result
Now I know how they turn vibranium into Iron Man shield hydro forming🤔
It’s Captain America’s shield. Though it was made by Tony Starks dad for Captain America
@@Onyxthefem Yep Tony’s father made the shield but I was thinking about it Hydro forming would be a way to do it
That is fascinating! Great work.
I'd like to place an order for one miniature flying saucer, please.
why the first temporary sideways tilt?
Very cool. Well done friend.
Is this where my mixing bowl comes from?
No, your handpan
Mixing bowls are more likely spin formed.
very impressive, that is awesome.
Hello there, awesome job, the part seems neat!! Would you be willing to share some more details about the setup? Like your plumbing? What kind of sheet metal are you using?
I will tell you
Any strong pump is working trust me with enough flooding and the metal should be cold roll steel tempered as well to allow forming 😁
I found the world of Hand Pan Makers to be pretty secretive but it doesn't hurt to ask. One thing I learned was the top and the bottom are made from two dissimilar metals and how you join the two is a big part of the sound.
Yea use some 2mm pipes with a moving valve of the staeter with a ball flux guide with a modern that goes up to 50cx and you would prob be fine.
@@mrayco Do you think it would work with annealed aluminum sheet (provided that I can weld it)?
@@runcycleskixc yea it would work easier than iron sheet metal
looks like you just made the first part of your space ship
c'est le chapeau de Billy Gibbons ? ...ou le prototype de la tarte à Frisbee ?
Thanks. What is the height for 1 mm stainless steel?
this guy is making ufo for tiny aliens.
Mr. Smith. We have flown 100 light years to pick up the new top to our flying saucer. Will you take Andromeda Express Card?
That's why the Aliens are after our water... They need it to assembly their flying sauce.
Damn I could make so many Captain America shields with that.
From ‘Star Wars’, your equipment sounds like the evaporators from Dantooine!
Wheel-hubs for a Big Bike™?
so ... hov many bars is needed to get thats efect and what is thickness of sheet ? otherwise nice job !
Do you obtain a good paraboloïd ?
Will you the technical parameters like.thickness of the material,pressure.,hyd pump capacity
The material thickness is 1.2mm, I use both 430 stainless, and 1008 steel. I generally achieve an overall dome height of around 5 inches, with around 500psi on 430, and 400psi on 1008 at a diameter of 21 inches. The pump is rated for 2175 psi at 3 gallons per minute.
Q: is it not easy’er to go the other way, vacuum? Or is that not strong enough?
Nope, water is non-compressable, air is. Plus if you could vacuum metal into form, vacuum chambers wouldn't be possible, plus some vacuum chambers are made from acrylic plastic.
Ok, I saw magic but what's behind the curtain?
Do you evacuate the air from the area under the pan first before you pump water in?
Dude, that's awesome.
where do you use that for?
A handpan
so.... it's a wok? :) nice vid. thanks.
A blank for musical hand pan ?
Would this work with Vibranium? Asking for a friend.
Giant samurai: Domo arigato Mr hydroformo
Any chance that this would work with annealed titanium instead of stainless? steel
I wonder what the pressure on the gauge was, and how the pressure scale with the size of the intended part -- is it linear with volume?
With 18ga 430 stainless, it reaches a max pressure of 550psi.
@@pansmithhandpans7080 Thank you! Do you think if the part had been bigger one would need a lower pressure?
@@runcycleskixc the pressure would have more overall force as area increases, but the material being formed and how far it is stretched has a great deal of influence on final pressure. 18ga 430 stainless takes 550 psi to reach a "depth" of 5 inches for this 21 inch diameter part, and if I try to go more than 5 inches, the part will tear. When using 18ga 1008 steel, I can go over 6 inches of "depth" with no failure and never exceeding 450psi. 430 stainless has far less elongation than 1008 cold rolled sheet.
It's lovely, looks space techie
You could make a led turn on when dome touch wood thing, i think its a pretty simple circuit
There is an adjustable switch on the wood thing that turns off the pump when it reaches the desired height.
Un buen comal para los pambazos y gorditas 😁😋😂☝🏻
Well done 👍🏻Would clamps exclude the holes?
So what are these used for? A giant race of Amazonians chest armor? Me want snusnu!
That is cool! Nice work!
Nice Wok.
I would like to ask you some questions. I have a Final Year Project for my Mechanical Engineering Degree which involves hydroforming.
How can I get hold of you?
Search for Colin Furze
Nice thingy 😳👍
What kind of metal is it and what is the thickness
Exactly! Turned out nice but what the hell is it and what’s it for?
This channel is called "PanSmith Handpans" ...I'll let you make further assumptions.
I wonder when it would burst
(almost) nothing happens. as the name implies hydroforming uses water which is pretty much incompressable, which means that unlike when using air which compresses and therefore takes up a lot of energy while beeing compressed and would erupt explosively only the relatively small volume of water in the bent dome would escape slowly. Maybe sqirt out a little in the beginning due to the spring in the material, but nevertheless: super safe.
@Yo ming look again he used water
@Yo ming he used water. hence the name: HYDROforming. you can clearly hear the noise of a high pressure water pump like used in a pressure washer (most likely what he uses) a well as you can see the high pressure water hose. he only used air to purge out the water in the end i think. ;)
very nice job!
Which material is that please
Hi This is stainless steel.?
you're not making beryllium reflectors are you?