THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2018
- MAG120 - Case #0170908 - Various
Statement of Elias Bouchard, regarding the dreams of Jonathan Sims, Head Archivist of the Magnus Institute, currently unresponsive.
The head of the Magnus Institute tells the tale of the aftermath of the Archival outing to Great Yarmouth and the subsequent administrative change.
Content Notes: Blood, body horror, buried alive, burned alive, direct violence, insect infestation, self-harm, worms
Starring: The Archivist - Jonanthan Sims; Martin Blackwood - Alexander J Newall; Police Officer - Richard Davies; Peter Lukas - Alasdair Stuart
Writer: Jonathan Sims
Director: Alexander J Newall
Editors: Alexander J Newall, James Austin, Brock Winstead
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I DO NOT like Peter Lukas, but he has earned some points by offering therapy for these poor bastards.
I don't trust him an inch. He can be nice and a good, therapy-offering boss all he wants, that guy is planning something sinister.
I DO NOT like him at all, how come y’all forgot that he LEFT a dude in the middle of Atlantic Ocean???!!! like- poor dude doesn’t have a friend and scared and he probably died from starvation and coldness
@@zaki4418 Also that one spider guy is rid of spiders but also of everyone esle in the world probably
I audibly said "FINALLY" when he mentioned that they should all get some therapy. Magnus institute archival staff x therapy best ship. BUt yeah I don't trust or like peter lukas at all.
I don't trust him either because of everything he's done but therapy is just what they all need.
Elias was really like: "Anyway Martins gay, so if you need any updates, ask him" huh?
where? I think I missed that
@@sarahmccausland7035 When Elias was screwing around in Martin's head, he mentioned that he would do anything for Jon. Later in that same interaction between them Martin mentions his feelings for Jon and says Elias can't use them against him.
@@sarahmccausland7035 when Peter Lucas said Elias told him Martin would be keeping a close eye on Jon's condition
ngl for a moment there i really thought martin was gonna end up as the new head of the magnus institute
Lol same, I WISH
I thought the same.
Same😅
I think he did too
Same. He should have.
I don’t fully trust Peter yet _but_ I’m glad he’s making the institutes pockets hurt by sending everyone to therapy
he is part of one of the families that fund the institute. He is only hurting his own pocket.
@@Fyttiana but you know how it is, Sugar Daddy Fear Entity can make money on whim, if anything he's just entertaining himself
it feels very much like Diversity Win ! new potentially evil overlord sends everyone to therapy ! 😂
@@maybe0rdinary “sugar daddy fear entity”😭
God I am so sad that Tim is dead...
Admittedly, Elias getting punched made me feel a lot better.
Me too and then I think about how upset Bisera will be about Daisy's death.
@@anactualbird6801 That was the first thing I thought. Bloodthirsty people die early and violently, and I didn't like her much so I didn't cry for her, but poor Basira. Just after she said how much Daisy meant to her.
I felt sooooooooooo much joy hearing him gasp for breath after the cop punched him
Elias deserved to be punched
It seems that Jon's only dreaming the statements that were given directly to him. And Helen's door is kinda sad but it might means that he can contact her from his dream
YES!! IF HES ABLE TO BRING HIMSELF TO OPEN THE DOOR AND CONTACT HER SHE COULD SAVE HIM!
Sorry about the all caps yelling, i just got a little excited.
Also, the dreams seems to be a what if(alternate timeline?) of if the people giving those statements didn't escape when they did, but stayed(for whatever reason) till the end.
And from the line saying 'she was beyond his reach the moment she knew he was there' when talking about the lightless flame lady, we could assume that the things happening here are 'real' to some extent, or somehow, in some part, are experienced by the people who gave the statements as well.
And from their reactions to him, they know John is the reason they're going through these things over and over.
Which reminds me of Elias talking about the guy from the archive a long while back letting his friend die because he just had to watch what happens through till the end. In this weird probably paranormal dream, he's seeing all these things play out to the end, over and over again.
OH I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT
i’m pretty sure this is how the eye ‘feeds’- people givetheir experiences to the Archivist in the form of statements, and are then forced to spend their dreams suffering through their fears, which powers the eye
frick, i forgot who helen is
My crops are watered, my skin is clear, my loans are paid off, and my soul is at peace - all because Elias got the life decked out of him.
Not gonna lie - I listened more times than I needed him being punched 😅
It's a good day to be alive.
(Rip Tim, Rip Daisy)
Elias getting punched is great and all.. but I was NOT quite ready for Tim dying :( I will miss that bastard terribly
He was so sassy, I'm holding out hope that he will annoy whoever runs the afterlife enough that they send him back to the living world
@@NaturallyCapricious i know im not quite uptodate on this show yet, but i thought there was *no* afterlife.
The sheer catharsis of Elias getting punched in the stomach
Nice.
Ah yes... supporting police brutality.
@@IaMSpeaks only a bit. He deserved it. Britishpolice didn't go entirely ham on him as American police do. Imagining more beating noises and tons excessive swearing.
@@Iquey I'm from the US... And that's not the point, all cops are bad
@@IaMSpeaks You can enjoy hearing Elias get punched and hate the guy who did it
@@IaMSpeaks fictional police brutality
Yeah my heart is broken. I was in denial about Sasha's death up until NotSasha died...but Tim and Daisy's deaths seems pretty final. I....Jeez
Ugh same... I didn't expect to get so attached to people while listening to an episodic horror podcast
Actually, i'm not so sure about daisy, cuz you know, the hunt and all
@@thebathroom6327 Daisy went into the box that Breekon & Hope carry around, correct. If that is the case, then there is a small chance she is still alive in there. At the very least, good on her for killing Breekon or Hope.
@@alexdillahunt6908 how dare you talk that way about the delivery husbands
I thought they made it very clear that the not them can’t die
Elias is one of those characters I absolutely love to hate. He's awful, but you know that, as a listener, you're in for a good time when he appears. I love me an absolute snake who acts all sophisticated and proper
Peter Lukas...I'm keeping an eye on you, mate.
i have the opposite , whenever i hear elias i am filled with an incoherent rage
These feelings can coexist guys
Peter Lukas is not what I expected from the statement about him as the ship captain. He seemed off in a dream almost more like an avatar of the vast. In person he does not seem that way.
@@moonlight_scribe I wonder if he can't perceive the true world.
Mr Joe Spooky it's been an honor o7 😭
And I can see how the Lonely keeps managing to find spouses; Peter's very charming
o7
boat husband
at least SOMEONE got to hit Elias
a police officer... hit a civilian and you're happy about that?
@@IaMSpeaks I'm pretty sure that people are only happy about Elias getting punched and not about a police officer hitting a civilian, considering that the show was portraying the police in a bad light from the start.
@@grinstrashcan Context matters. Don't cheer for police brutality losers.
@@IaMSpeaks no, you're right, force shouldn't be applied to the two time murder employee mind raping civilian.
@@IaMSpeaks Stories and reality are very different things. This is a story. It's not real. There's nothing in common between acheering for a fictional monster getting punched by a police character and supporting real-life cops being violent.
*50 YEARS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO MY SOUL WHEN I HEARD ELIAS GETTING PUNCHED IN THE GUT!*
Edit: 18:09 That’s the time stamp. Just- *Chef’s kiss*
Truly 👌👌
new ringtone, new morning alarm sound
thanks for the timestamp HAHA I would listen to that on repeat
@@polyxenifoutsitsi8827 😂😂😂😂 love that
I listened this part more times than I needed 😂
"Be seeing you." A truth from an avatar of The Eye and a nice reference to The Prisoner all in one. I'd say nicely done, Bouchard, but I don't like you so get stuffed.
So thanks to you I started watching The Prisoner, and the Village sure seems like a perfect stronghold for the Eye!
(By the way, what's up with the episode order? Looks like the only ones that are defined are the first and the last two, and i have no clue which order i should follow as a first time viewer.)
Alright i just finished The Prisoner. I feel like the Spiral must have been involved as well. What the hell was that.
@@10brokenradios The final episodes are supposed to be the Prisoner's descent into madness. Why Jon fears Helen's door, perhaps.
Ah finally
Elias gets decked
by a police officer... meaning it's police brutality and absolutely disgusting
@@IaMSpeaks Did you reply to every comment on this point? Good god.
@@IaMSpeaks You can be glad Elias got punched and still hate the guy who did it
@@himeow7454 As long as you state that, I can't personally because I'm an Elias stan but your phrasing is much better
I’m setting that guy punch as my ringtone 👹
Oh that ending, when he said :
"THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES IS A PODCAST DISTRIBUTED BY RUSTY QUILL LIMITED AND LICENSED UNDER A CREATIVE COMMONS ATTRIBUTION NON-COMMERCIAL SHAREALIKE 4.0 INTERNATIONAL LICENSE"
God that was good
The scariest part of the podcast😱
@@karihuber3169 i shit my pants :(
fuck yeah dude it sure is
9:56
Exterminator's hand: wassup bro.
Jon, forced to watch and do nothing: not much. Just chilling here in a highly active REM coma while you suffer in my memories.
Exterminator hand: 🐜🖕🐜🐜🐜
This made me think of the meme where it's a person drowning, and their hand is reaching out of the water, and someone just gives them a high five and then they drown.
@@jsk-art
"Im so depressed"
"lmao mood"
🌊🖐️🌊🌊🌊
Peter sounds abit like old Tim, before he became bitter.
ik, and my eyes are stinging with tears
I almost thought Tim was still alive for a second when I heard the voice
At first i thought it was Tim and hen i remembered he's pretty likely dead i can't...
@@billygomez9568 same i was like TIM'S ALIVE!! ...oh
1. The Anatomy Students
2. The Computer Eating Guy
3. Grieving Lady(?) & Do Not Open(?)
4. Train to Nowhere
5. _Dig_
6. Helen ;-;
7. Ants (The Exterminator)
8. Jane Prentiss & the Worms
9. Some people from the Hunt or Dark(?)
10. Unsure (Gertrude? The Death Gambler?)
11. Gertrude? Sasha??
12. *The Watcher*
13. So on & so forth
Ah, and Jon is getting increasingly less and less human. It is as painful as it is delightful
The grieving lady was Naomi, from episode 13. The Hunters in the Dark were Trevor Herbert and Julia Montauk
ngl Jane Prentiss & the Worms sounds like a hell of a band name
oh 3 was daisy i think
10 is actually the season 1 episode "Alone".
I think 11 is georgie
So much to unpack here
- Peter Lukas did really take notes on "how to be a good boss". I hope he will remember the "less murder" part
- Rest in Tim. I wasn't suprised by your death, I just hope you'll be happier now. Rest in too Daisy, I suppose, you left as you lived
- the statement was so well-written, it's fascinating and terrifying. And the voice actor of Elias does a wonderful job !
Thank you to all the team
peter continues to be kind of an okay dude! surprisingly. everyone draws him so big and staring into space i keep getting surprised how upbeat he sounds. would it kill elias to give tim paid leave when he figured out the unknowing was going to happen soon? especially since he didnt want him to go. clearly they have the funds.
The more genial they sound, the more terror they give me. I expect the worst. But on the mundane side of things, he's quite reasonable. Paid leave! And therapy!
Just wait.
Tim wouldn't have took it at that point tho.
Yeah. He does not match what I imagined from the statement about the person who joined his crew at all. Originally I assumed he was part of the Vast because of the fact that he was described as quiet and staring
So... i guess in his dreams he meets each of the Fear Patrons. Cool.
Well, no, he visits the nightmares of people who gave a statement directly to him, the smiley apple guy, helen, melanie, daisy, ect. They just so happen to be from different patrons
Well i guess i am one of the few people that actually liked elias as both a character and a really cool antagonist. And the sass of this guy i loved it
From a narrative and acting standpoint, Elias is amazing. Really interesting villain. The fact that I hate his guts and want him to meet a grisly end as soon as possible is a high praise for the creators.
I genuinely love him as a villain, and I long for the day someone decks him in the head with a folding chair! 😊
It’s rare to come across a villain like Elias that I love to hate so much, and still want them to keep coming back because they’re fucking fascinating to behold!
A+ villain work, guys! Well done! 😁
I love him too :)
Loved this episode wow! I knew jon had nightmares but the fact that he's apparently living in the one's of other people's statements is chilling. Especially when all he can do is merely watch.
Also peter lukas if you hurt martin i SWEAR
I've listened to all three seasons in maybe a week, if that.
same! and good news for you, almost all of season 4 is out on their website
Me too, I started something like four days ago, it's rare that something has managed to make me so engrossed in the story so fast :')
dude same
same
same, I started 5 days ago and i'm starting season 4 rn :)))))
That moment when Martin realizes he just exchanged his more or less stable, reasonable, psychopathic both against a chipper, unhinged, psychopathic ghost boss. I already hate that screechy static with a passion!
Also, please rest in peace, Tim and Daisy😔
but at their initial meeting, Peter kinda promised Martin 'less murder' in his managerial style!
He FINALLY got punched
did you skip over the fact that he was punched by a police officer?
@@IaMSpeaks Yeah in a fictional story that has already portrayed the police in a negative light. It is really not that serious, people would have said the same thing and been even more happy if it were Martin that punches him. Not everything is a battle or that deep, no need to comment on almost every comment that is happy Elias got punched.
@@IaMSpeaks i literally advocate for acab more than anythin but you need to stfu you are in like every comment mentioning this yes we are glad the bad guy got decked even if its by other bad guy how wrong of your mind are to think that somehow makes us support police brutality. Wtf
jon dreaming of the 14 fears is such a cool way to reference things that have happened and what weve seen
Is it just me or did anyone else have a weird feeling wash over them wile listening to this statement, like for starters jons dreams are a compilation of all the statements he's read, also this episode was (mostly) in third person. This is the first episode to be in first person and that makes me feel kinda odd. Its honestly mildly fascinating.
See, we all already know we cant trust Peter. However, if we didn't, the fact that he ended this episode with a "We are going to do great things, Martin. Great things" solidified it. No one innocent repeats that phrase.
1. Oh Jon
2. You go officer!
3. Oh yes totes not suspicious Mr. Lukas
4. I keep being surprised by his voice vs the fanart
I know it's three years later but I agree with the voice thing every drawing shows him as an old grizzled boat captain and yet his voice sounds like a sauve businessman or something
@@axolotlthepowerful4643i think he looks and sounds like captain iglo 😂cant get this out of my mind
"And at last, the Archivist looks up. At last, he looks into the eye that sees all, and knows all, and clutches at the secret terrors of your heart. The Ceaseless Watcher of all that is, and all that was; the voracious, infinite hunger the tears at his soul, invoking him to discover, to observe, to experience all, and everything, and forever. It stares into him, and it stares out of him, and he is falling into the devouring eternity of its pupil. He wants to cry out in horror, but he cannot. He. Is. Whole." DAMN, Mr. Sims....
A nightmare sequence for Jon... Must be really horrifying if this series is a game.
Daisy somehow lost herself from her nature, she growls and killed Hope in with the power from the Hunt's entity, here in s3, things are building up... for the upcoming new arc, the one i would like to call as... "Hunting season arc"
Where Trevor and Julia probably go and attack Jon for taking and burning Gerry's binded soul to that page of the book.
Also, Tim... Yeah... "Rest in... just rest."
Basira was able to press the right buttons in her QTE (Quick time events)
she was able to lead herself to safety...
At season 4, or 5, maybe she'll turn out to be a more stronger character.
So yeah...
maybe... Jon did not die because he leveled up as the head archivist in the right moment. (all thanks to the verbal abuse of Nikola and the time spent for him to think the one liner... "I SEE YOU")
Unlocking the passive: "Immortal"
to see and experience things *forever*
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Also yeah... errr... yeah, goodjob punching Elias... err... I rather want him than one of em family stuff that is tied to a different fear... aka the one that is involved with isolation. I'm pretty sure he's going to be one of the antagonists in the next season...
As much as i already love lucas for giving our favorite crew of archival assistants some therapy, im worried that he will push Martin to becoming like jon, a Avatar.
Not for the Eye, but for the Lonely
now hold on
this show is just the terrifying ordeal of being known huh
Ik everyone is supposed to hate Elias, but i just cant get over how awesome he is as the mastermind supervillain. Like he is literally magically intelligent, a trait that would normally make such a villain more of a hollow character but due to the unique power system of the world it just justifies the confidence that make villains like him such magnificent bastards.
...okay. okay. So. Uh, Lukas (not gonna call him Peter for now, don't trust him) is already a better boss than Elias, and that's on his first day. I guess, uh, Daisy died doing what she loved? Um. I'm really quite sad for Tim, way more than I thought I'd be. Feel like I'm gonna have to relisten to that statement to really understand what was going on. Almost gave me a heart attack when the Spotify playlist kept going and the voice of Tim went "Hello everyone! Mike here!" and for half a second I thought the fucker lived. Anyways. I don't even know how to verbalize how much I loved this? I do like horror, but this season, even though it didn't focus on it, was my favorite. It's just... really really well done, in terms of pacing and, everything, I guess. I have been listening to this for a long time. Time to listen to the Q&A I guess. Thanks for making this.
OKAY HAH is it just me or did Daisy die the exact same way her senior colleague died when she first encountered a Section 31 that literally changed the course of her life? Coincidence? I THINK NOTT
When Elias said "be seeing you"...
Interesting choice of words
He's an Oblivion NPC!
Alright,just wanted to get some thoughts out, time to analyze the season like an English teacher.
I feel like Season 3 was mainly about Jon's struggle to retain his humanity and deny the fact that he was becoming a monster. It would explain why Jon declined talking to the Distortion again, who also was struggling with becoming something it did not want to become. Jon didn't want to admit that was what was happening to him.
This episode really finishes that off, as Jon is trapped in a state where he can only watch, and not do anything. His attempt to stop the Unknowing was also probably his attempt to have some form of self-determination, to prove to himself that he's not stuck watching, an he's not just doing what the Eye wants. In the end, it seems he's lost his fight.
(s4 spoilers) bruh I'm relistening and it's pretty fucking bold for peter "physical manifestation of a depressive episode" lukas to be like "you can go get therapy now if you want :)" to martin
How else will you know how deep your issues go unless you talk about them?
Relistening again. RIP Tim Stoker, absolute madlad and king.
Here is a list of every reference he makes in this episode and what he is watching: (None of the below contains spoilers assuming you've watched everything up to and including this episode.)
1. MAG 34: Anatomy Class, Statement of Dr. Lionel Elliot
2. MAG 65: Binary, Statement of Tessa Winters
3-4. "Those He Cannot Watch" refers to those who joined the Archive and are no longer subject to dreams. MAG 28: Statement of Melanie King, MAG 73: Statement of Basira Hussain, MAG 76: Statement of Melanie King
5. MAG 61: Hard Shoulder, Statement of Daisy - Daisy is missing as she was placed inside the Coffin (MAG 2) during The Unknowing (MAG 119).The Buried is obscuring her from The Eye's power.
6. MAG 71: Underground, Statement of Karolina Górka - The advert saying 'Dig' is a reference to MAG 88: Dig
7. MAG 47: The New Door, Statement of Helen Richardson - Helen was consumed by The Distortion under the guise of Michael, however The Distortion has taken on the guise of Helen now.
8. MAG 55: Pest Control, Statement of Jordan Kennedy
9. MAG 89: Twice as Bright, Statement of Jude Perry - As a avatar of The Desolation, she is shielded from The Eye and Jon's dreams.
10. MAG 109: Nightfall, Statement of Julia Montauk and Trevor Herbert
11: MAG 13: Alone, Statement of Naomi Herne
12: MAG 94: Dead Woman Walking, Statement of Georgie Barker - Georgie lost her ability to fear, thus while she is in Jon's dream it is absent The Eye's power. She watches back sadly as she cares about Jon and can see what he is becoming.
It seems the dreams and nightmares people refer to in several statements regarding The Institute are due to The Archivist forcing them to relive their trauma every night after giving a live spoken statement. Every single episode above are people who gave live statements, not pre-recorded or written. Several statements confirm Gertrude did this as well and that the ability is not-voluntary or intended, simply a side effect or consequence. It is unclear if written statements have similar effects or if those who gave live statements to Gertrude were free after she died.
you're a god (entity beyond our reality?) send
Gertrude purposefully avoided taking live statements, except in a few exceptional cases, because she was aware of this side effect of the Archivists power. I don't think written statements force the giver to re-experience the event and be watched by the Archivist while asleep
Jon mentions all the _way_ back in season 1 he's having trouble sleeping (and everyone mentions how tired he looks). It's because he's been having these nightmares since he became the Archivist.
honestly, its poetic that the archivists nightmare is watching everything, without being able to do a thing. A god in mind and perception, but nothing in action.
Here's the new boss! Same as the old boss.
No! This one gives you free counseling for the fuckled up things he does ^U^
I love that Lucas becomes the head institute guy and the first thing he does is give them all therapy lmao
i know elias getting arrested is all in part to martin and melanie but i like to think it was his previous actions in ep 118 that really did him in like yea sure he's got a couple murders under his belt but making martin cry?? go 2 jail eyeboy!!!!!!!!!
This episode is one of those that stand out for its haunting prose, so well done. Elias getting what was coming to him doesn't hurt either. Peter Lukas is pretty chill but that just makes me dread him more, so I'll be fully expecting horrible things. Congrats on another excellent season! Onto s4.
I finished this entire season.
In 5 days.
SEASON ONE TOOK ME A MONTH HOW THE HELL
We're all addicted
Addiction is a drug
Statement Begins.
"The Eye hungers."
Statement Ends.
I finished the season in 2 days .....
*looks at clock* it's been _how many_ hours?
Season 1 took a few weeks, at least
Tim no... And Bisara will be so heart broken... Sry Daisy
AAAAAAAAA THIS SEASON WAS SO GOOD IM SO HYPED TO START SEASON 4
Season 4 is out, it is available on the podcast feed. This week's episode was 137. TH-cam takes a while to catch up. You can find it on Apple/Google podcasts or right here play.acast.com/s/themagnusarchives
I totally agree.
the watch time picking up around when elias gets punched in the stomach is my favorite thing about this fandom and i agree with it wholeheartedly, i love you all
I don't even know how to feel anymore. Tim & Daisy are dead. John is barely alive. Elias is in prison. I feel like my brain and heart is being ripped apart.
I don't know why so many people here are saying Lukas seems like a better boss than Bitchard. I may be reaching but "paid leave" sounds a lot more like "time encouraged to spend alone without much to occupy your thoughts." he knows exactly what he's doing to Martin >:(
This show is amazing, I have torn through it in less than a month, and even when I'm not listening, I feel a slight feeling of unease. Thank you for the chills, the laughs and the mystery! I will take a little break before I go searching for season 4, I think ;)
This whole episode sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.
I hope you will get s4 up on youtube ASAP! I'm hard of hearing and youtube's auto captions make it so much easier to follow the podcast. Love everything I've listened to so far.
Season four is free to listen on Spotify, you can go there now.
sidhe's keeper Spotify doesn’t have captions. I’ve already listened to s4 with volunteer-made transcripts.
@@mercymorned theres a transcript website
I'm enjoying listening to this again and I just wanna share that whenever I imagine the scene where Jon watches the exterminator's pleading hand get covered by ants, and Jon doesn't do anything to help him, the shape of an ant covered fist flipping him the bird slowly disappears under the crawling brown mass.
There'd been a few statements before this that freaked me out more than most. But this one was the first time I spent pretty much the entire time just gaping with an expression of bone-deep pure absolute horror just frozen on my face, and the reactions I sent to my friends on discord consisted almost entirely of long, bolded, italicized, caps lock keysmashes, punctuated by tons of question marks and exclamation points.
And afterward all I could say was: "......Well. ...The Magnus Archives, as they say, is a podcast."
This episode absolutely devastated me.
I loved the writing on the previous one, but this... This is... I feel like the Unknowing is still happening in a million universes that are parallel to ours, and I can't seem to quite grasp the concept of thought. I am one huge ball of feeling, and pain, and awe, and fear, and I can see everything, and I can express nothing, and every one of my nerves is screaming in agony while I'm yearning for more pain, and fear, and pleasure.
And I feel like I am the one true Archivist, listening to this again, and again, and again, watching these people suffer, bringing Jon along for the ride to feed off the screams of his tortured soul, locked inside a body with an unbeating heart, with unmoving lungs, where only the brain is struggling to survive in the suffocating wet darkness of the skull, refusing to accept the simple fact that it. no longer. is.
I sit here, in the cold unfeeling silence of the night, and I drink to the Archivist. And I drink to Tim. And Daisy. And Sasha. And everybody we've lost.
And I drink to you.
And I drink to me.
And I drink to the brand new world that will see the light of tomorrow's dawn. Right on time. As always.
Woah. Poetic as shit m8. I like it XD
loved it
Please say you're a writer
I love that the woman who was like fully fine with death is still like *oh this dream again, oh look I have a friend will this isn't so bad. I'll see you tomorrow for my next nightmare*
It's Georgie, his ex, that he was living with. She can't feel fear but can see Jon being forced to watch her.
"I only have two eyes after all" does that mean you can only see two things at once? Elias...?
the writing of this episode really reminds me of Rod Serling in the original Twilight Zone, but much more grim, and sadder too. this season was so incredible, i can't wait to start s4
Really great final episode. sets up so many delicious plot points that have me screaming at my computer screen.
Not the final episode they just stopped uploading it to TH-cam
You can find season 4 and 5 on most podcast websites, or if you use an iPhone or product alike you can find it on Apple podcasts
@@newspaper_stand Oh! Yeah I meant season's finale. I think I wrote this on my second or third relisten.... Yes it is that good. Thank you anyways!
I'm in pain now TT_TT
I'm gonna miss Tim and Daisy. They may have both been cold and hated almost everyone around them but still. And poor Bisera (spelled that wrong) will miss Daisy so much.
oh, this is just horrible... i feel so bad for jon.. AND TIM.... thanks mr sims my heart has been thoroughly shattered
Alright.
First of all, I'm going to go cry about Tim. Didn't deserve that. But at least he got to rest, and he left doing what he wanted most, so... yeah. That foreshadowing about Gertrude's 3 assistants all meeting terrible ends is really coming together, and I don't like it in the slightlest. Also, the reason why he wanted to save all of the "statues" (I mean, aside from human kindness) was probably because he hoped his brother was in there somewhere. That's depressing...
Also thinking about Daisy... Basira's going to be devastated.
Im happy Elias got some consequence going back at him! I really liked him as... not really a villain, but not an ally neither. He had a goal, and did everything to fullfill it. He is an interesting character, and I think it's not the end of him. But at the same time, I reaaaaally don't like Peter Lukas being now the head of everything. I mean, dude basically sacrificed one of his crewmates back in his statement?
John's nightmares are absolutely horrible, and terrifying. Freaking Eye is NOT good, or better than the other. That feeling of powerlessness... just having to watch.
So yeah. What an end of the season. I really liked how everything was kind of coming together, but still confusing and definitely not done. The voice acting and sound design were absolutely amazing!
And..... Tim didnt care if he lived or died, that makes it a bit easier for me. RIP Tim.
I dont know what I enjoyed more. A whole episode from Elias or hearing him getting punched
rip tim, forever in our hearts,,,
i also hope elias will get punched in the stomach more through out this serie
Peter's comments about less murder being preferred from Martin's boss suddenly has much more meaning, since Elias seems to have been outlying a succession plan in their little meetings.
It's like a Jon is having a beyond weird fever dream of all the statements he's read. I don't know how I feel about that
The Observer: PROLONGED EYE CONTACT
Jon, dreaming: prolonged eye contact
it was heavily foreshadowed but I'm still sad over Tim's death..........
ELIAS GETTING PUNCHED GIVES ME LIFE but I don't trust Peter Lucas, he might be trouble. offering vacation and councelling is great tho
At least Lukas is offering free counseling with the deaths and all
And paid vacay.
Honestly one of the best episodes ever
Well this was a phenominal listen - onto S4
My theory from this episode and what we know so far:
So, Tim and Daisy are dead.. And although Tim is definitely dead (from what they said in their q&a) (you will be missed Tim), I'm not really sure if Daisy is really dead or not. I mean, before the explosion, she was with Breekon and Hope and killed one of them, so maybe she's not dead but on the hunt for the other one or taken by him for revenge? Or she fully emerged as an avatar of the Hunt so she survived the explosion and left before others came to see what happened?
Also, though I didn't understand much from Elias' "statement", what I understood is that John dreams about specific statements and, though my memory isn't the best, the one thing some of them have in common are that they were given directly to John, so I assume that John dreams about all the statements that were given to him directly. But in his dreams, the victims never escaped, and since the entities are fears, I'm guessing one other aspect of fear the Eye feeds off from is the repetition of a statement's victim's fear over and over again; like by giving their statements they also gave their fear of the incident to the Eye and the Eye is making it so that they're on loop in an alternate reality (in this case, either John's dreams or a dimension of the Eye that John enters while he's asleep) so that there's always fear for it to feed on, like a garden of fears of some sort (I hope that makes some sort of sense).
It's been 11 days since I started this show.
Would've been less if it wasn't for me being terrible with horror stuff so that I have stop for the day when it gets dark
@@oliviawoloshyn5824 it's been 8 months and I can sleep again, thankfully
Every single statement in a dream, one after another... That has gotta suck.
I really appreciate how it's clear how terrified Jon is of Jane Prentiss two full seasons after her getting iced. It makes a character who is more or less the "Starter Boss" of the series still feel consequential and menacing, even in death.
I’m so sad Tim’s gone :(
after all this they're finally gonna get some therapy. if only tim could be there to heal... i feel like his arc was cut too short. amazing season though!
Season 4 is on Spotify just so ya know.
I cannot hate Elias I am such a clown I cannot do anything but love him goddam bastard
Girl me too, I love him since season 1 😭
How can someone simultaneously get exactly what they deserve and so much better than what they deserve
The trick to nightmares is to simply not be afraid and go with the flow.
Example of a dream I had which I would *not*describe as a nightmare:
Started with kissing a pretty girl, then I had a mouth full of worms. Instead of panicking, I spat out the worms and asked her what the heck? The worms were long, thin, white, and smooth. Many had been cut in half by my teeth and there was a good bit of blood from the holes the worms had already eaten in my mmouth.
She apologized and I told her that it was ok. As thousands more worms began emerging from her flesh and a nearby wall, I decided to run away.
It is important to note that I rean because I *did not want to* be eaten alive by worms, rather than because I was *afraid of* being eaten by worms. It is a small distinction, but an important one. The difference is that I maintained agency. I had a goal I acted upon, rather than a fear which acted upon me.
The chase was much as other dream chases go; suffice to say I was eventually trapped and surrounded. Then I had a choice, though most would not see it. I *could* fight against the tide, stomping and pushing them back untill they overwhelmed me. *OR* I could laugh, admit defeat, and just let them eat me.
In choosing the latter, I was still in control. I merged with the swarm and went back to hang out with the pretty girl from earlier. Sure, I was a hideous mass of writhing vermin, but so was she on the inside and it wasn't a problem.
So basically, go into your dream with a “fuck it” mentality, and the dream will accept you into it? Neat!
This sounds suspiciously like Corruption propaganda... Begone, foul avatar
@@ryanmoran8787 Well, that particular dream was of corruption, but the strategy works on nightmares of any Power.
i can't believe you made out with jane prentiss
People really hate Elias, and there is me, who fell in love with Elias since season 1🧍♂️
Peter said mental health check✌
God I loved this season the pain I felt hearing about Tim and Daisy was not ok
Listened to this all in about a fortnight hahaha
Hate that Tim is dead love that elias got punched made me cry that Jon’s nightmares are just having to watch people get hurt and beg for his help him being unable to help
I cant say how much about the relationship between Elias and Peter that I read is true, but they are definitely close if he lets him lead while he is gone
Martin taking down Elias is everything I wanted to hear.
Am I the only one who isn't happy Elias was gone? even if he acted horribly he still facilitated Gertrude and her expeditions, I feel like things are going to get very unfortunate in the next few seasons.
Creepy AF... And I guess that's how the Eye really gets its fear-up. If you can just terrorize people in their dreams for forever after they give their statement, reaping the benefits of what the other entities have tried, that'd be REALLY effective.
18:14
Finally! I replayed at least 15 times
It does make sense that getting rid of Elias would just prompt someone else to step in instead, but the paid leave was a nice gesture.
Honestly, Peter Lukas is creepy asf, but I love him, his voice is just somehow so calming (everyone's voice is, the voice acting is amazing) and the fact that he always speaks with a sorta, gentle smile on his face? Is nice. He also offered therapy and said he'd pay for it, so like, sugar daddy vibes (I'm joking, but also, I love that he did offer therapy). I'm gonna miss Elias tho, I loved him as a character. And he wasn't necessarily a villain, but he wasn't good. His voice was honestly calming and really nice. It's unforgivable making Martin cry tho so bye-bye!
His voice actor, Alasdair Stuart does streams, so if you like his voice I’d recommend them. On some of them he even does some tma comedy fic readings
@@calamity2383 oh my god that's awesome. Thanks so much for that info cause I know what I'm doing instead of hw this week 👀
Ah i wish the later episodes could be on TH-cam
Oh gods no, it’s Lukas