If there was something that never dropped its appeal in the entire life of destiny 2, it's your pvp gameplay. You are awesome and I so love watching how you use your intuition of the game to end the engagement in your favour. That five drop .. Wonderful
@@NightfallGemini it god tier main hunter comp that the best hand cannon right now and i have the not forgotten and LH and all the crusible weapons in the game the throne is really good also the last word is godly if you dont ads with it you can 3 tap or 4 tap really easy
@@Who-Uhm-Cares What? Malfeasance has nothing on this thing, Lumina is a 150 that can three tap, just like Spare Rations (which is great to be honest). There are a lot of great hand cannons for PvP right now and Malfeasance is not one of them, it's pretty much a wasted exotic slot since there are legendary hand cannons that have much faster ttk like Spare Rations or the Austringer. Not to mention that the other exotic primary options are insanely good, Ace and Last Word are pretty much the best kinetic primaries in the game. I don't know how you can not see that Lumina is broken, it's pretty strong even without the exotic perk. It has less range than Ace but faster ttk and the exotic perk let's you heal allies and grants both of you a ~30% damage buff for 10 seconds!!! on literally anything. You don't even have to hit your shots, the healing orbs have crazy tracking so you pretty much have a solid hand cannon with a crazy strong heal and a ridiculously overpowered damage buff for you AND your allies. Imagine this thing with Recluse, get a kill, use your noble round, switch to Recluse and kill literally anything in less than half a second with double damage buffs.
Relicious I never said it was better. I said I prefer Malfeasance because of it being a 180. A 180 with no recoil, 15 rounds, range is far because of the 5th round, and it melts supers. Personal preference.
My buddy and I played against you last night. You were with 3 others I believe, and walked out of there with a freakin 61 kill count lmao. Respect, dude👍
Damn Frost you are INSANE with every single weapon!! You are a beast bro!! Keep it up man! You are a big influence for me, whenever I want to play Crucible I watch one of your vids first 😁👍
Got this weapon about an hour mins ago. It’s such a beautiful weapon. Props to Bungie on its design. And the perks are so unique. I personally love it in all activities..!
Btw you don't actually need to land a heal shot to get the buff. So a neat strategy is hold it until you are about to get into a gunfight for extra damage, especially if you can start stacking them in your back pocket.
@@kiwiiruna4800 from all the videos I have seen they will sometimes shoot from the hip out of instinct and then get the buff. once I get it myself I will let you know if I remember.
Here is an idea: play with this setup but with also that warlock guy you played with (he should also have this weapon) and he will be constantly giving you the healing and damage buff
BROOOOOOO OH MY GOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT!!!! HELL YES! Every other Destiny content creator has been saying "loo-MEEEE-na" like a filthy grammar casual...smh
Got it on console a bit over an hour ago and just as I feared it just isn't great. Ace of Spades and The Last Word are way better exotic kinetic hand cannons. I'm fine with this by the way, not every new exotic has to be the best. It also just doesn't fit my general Crucible playstyle, but I might mess around with it in PvE.
@@Nightmare-or2yd How is it underwhelming? Literally the only hand cannons that are better than Lumina are Ace and Last Word which are both crazy strong, the best primaries in the game. It wouldn't call "a bit worse than the best weapons there are right now" underwhelming.
Would’ve enjoyed a similar scope to thorn, seeing as how they’re from the same frame and quite similar in almost all ways besides of course that one poisons you and the other heals.
Gotta get used to saving the hip fire shots on this thing...I don't know about Crucible yet, but in pve, the noble rounds do LESS damage. I assume they are regular damage in pvp but I haven't tested it, just want to be sure lol
Frost! Looks crazy. I don't understand how firing the weapon works. Can you aim anywhere and still hit your Ally with nobles? Do you actually have to aim at them? What happens when you're solo? 🎉
You can, the orbs deal damage and pass right through them, so they can still hit other enemies or even your allies. I don't know if one orb can hit you multiple times but if it can, that would be pretty nuts since the orbs bounce from walls.
great video as usual. but please don't start re-using clips multiple times in one video! one of the things I liked most about your channel was that you don't do that
Am_I_Human aka FindStoicism he’s done this since the beginning bro lmao? He shows a tiny highlight reel of the video and then it shows the play naturally occur during his gameplay. That was really ignorant of you to say lmao.
It’s meant for those to understand his methodology. Newer players appreciate hearing and understanding how he processes the situations. Won’t be for everyone
gotta watch out for those "The Hero's Burden" smgs pretending to be recluse lol
MAZEY22 how
There are times where I prefer the hero's burden over the recluse. It's got more range so it's better to use next to a sniper in longer range maps
MAZEY22 no way bro , red mamba is for the weak
Nah, it's Saitama you gotta watch out for, doesn't matter what smg it is
MAZEY22 it literally isn't
Can’t wait to see Azure coming back with this gun and be the greatest support player of all time! You’ll be unstoppable
Same! That would make a dynamic duo
Azure was the FIRST person I thought of when I saw this gun lol
That’s what I thought as soon as I heard about the perks
Lumina isn’t the only hand cannon new to D2, Rose is so clean and it’s being slept on
If there was something that never dropped its appeal in the entire life of destiny 2, it's your pvp gameplay. You are awesome and I so love watching how you use your intuition of the game to end the engagement in your favour.
That five drop .. Wonderful
*Refreshes page 134,890 times waiting for this vid to drop*
Damn someone needs to make a vid of 3luminas and 3 thorns in PvP. The damage would be crazy
Can't believe I was in the vid! Thanks for popping off so I could be in it Frost!
You can buy rose from collections with a range masterwork. It’s a super solid weapon
BabyJay i bought it from collections, but it wasn’t masterworked?
Alex it has a range masterwork but you have to fully masterwork it and if u haven’t completed the quest it won’t have any perks
I was wondering if Rose would catch on. Someone I know was playing with it on console and it looked decent.
NightfallGemini it’s extremely good
@@NightfallGemini it god tier main hunter comp that the best hand cannon right now and i have the not forgotten and LH and all the crusible weapons in the game the throne is really good also the last word is godly if you dont ads with it you can 3 tap or 4 tap really easy
Get the remnant, shoot the remnant at a teammate, get the weapon buff, swap to Backup Plan Erentil... profit.
Thomas Walsh erentil is already a broken fusion rifle and now you’re saying this
Dear God....
and the teammate you buff has lord of wolves.. just to make it even worse
Benny Canela that’s the point 😂
Thomas Walsh Found the dad
3:48 holy shit dude i blinked. lol.
Nice this gun will rock, since allies like to run in front of me when i'm shooting all the freaking time!
Holy shit I wish I was as good as you that Hand Cannon looks crispy
I can literally see the pixels. It seems like it might be ok on PC. It's something an aggressive player wouldn't use over other hand cannons I think.
Mr Plutonium Rather use a Malfeasance. Faster shots and it melts supers and because of its 5th shot killing at range is amazing.
@@Who-Uhm-Cares What? Malfeasance has nothing on this thing, Lumina is a 150 that can three tap, just like Spare Rations (which is great to be honest). There are a lot of great hand cannons for PvP right now and Malfeasance is not one of them, it's pretty much a wasted exotic slot since there are legendary hand cannons that have much faster ttk like Spare Rations or the Austringer. Not to mention that the other exotic primary options are insanely good, Ace and Last Word are pretty much the best kinetic primaries in the game. I don't know how you can not see that Lumina is broken, it's pretty strong even without the exotic perk. It has less range than Ace but faster ttk and the exotic perk let's you heal allies and grants both of you a ~30% damage buff for 10 seconds!!! on literally anything. You don't even have to hit your shots, the healing orbs have crazy tracking so you pretty much have a solid hand cannon with a crazy strong heal and a ridiculously overpowered damage buff for you AND your allies. Imagine this thing with Recluse, get a kill, use your noble round, switch to Recluse and kill literally anything in less than half a second with double damage buffs.
Relicious I never said it was better. I said I prefer Malfeasance because of it being a 180. A 180 with no recoil, 15 rounds, range is far because of the 5th round, and it melts supers. Personal preference.
People underestimate the 5th shot it’s not even funny lol
@@SolaceV9 its 20% in pvp. 35% in pve
That 4 shotty spree when you were in that corner was CLUTCH af though
My buddy and I played against you last night. You were with 3 others I believe, and walked out of there with a freakin 61 kill count lmao. Respect, dude👍
7:52 rap god
haha true :D
Damn Frost you are INSANE with every single weapon!! You are a beast bro!! Keep it up man! You are a big influence for me, whenever I want to play Crucible I watch one of your vids first 😁👍
Just played against you IFrostBolt, gg and love your videos man
Got this weapon about an hour mins ago. It’s such a beautiful weapon. Props to Bungie on its design. And the perks are so unique. I personally love it in all activities..!
...didnt u post this exact comment on mtashed’s video?
dub willtattoo and on nkuchs😂
This guy
Honestly I’m really happy with Lumina, it’s very good. I’m also happy that you can masterwork Rose and use that as well
I can't find a single comment that mentions that fact that Heuro was on the enemy team, too bad he was on warlock.
*frost using OP titan super*
*scared to death opponent shuts down frost*
frost: why did he one man nova me?
Btw you don't actually need to land a heal shot to get the buff.
So a neat strategy is hold it until you are about to get into a gunfight for extra damage, especially if you can start stacking them in your back pocket.
Forreal? You can just shoot the ground and get it?
@@kiwiiruna4800 from all the videos I have seen they will sometimes shoot from the hip out of instinct and then get the buff.
once I get it myself I will let you know if I remember.
Here is an idea: play with this setup but with also that warlock guy you played with (he should also have this weapon) and he will be constantly giving you the healing and damage buff
Azure, and yes please do this
Nice to see you rocking dunemarchers I've been telling people that they are the way to go with bottom tree striker
“these guys are gana give me a hard time to get out of here”....”thats 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...lets goooo dude”
What's his rolls on his Mindbender?
*There needs to be a ornament for this thing after my mind said it looks like squiggly tampons I can’t unsee it*
Damn Frost you got this thing fast AF
i’m super happy today, this video just made me happier. Pog
edit: apparently if you have ace with mori and get shot with a noble round, you can 2 tap
Makes sense. Cause any other damage buff plus moment mori equals a 2 tap
Overcharged sturm with a noble round also 1 taps
Frost out there tryng to heal the enemy team :D
4:05 5:26
Great commentary. Subbed
BROOOOOOO OH MY GOD THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT!!!! HELL YES! Every other Destiny content creator has been saying "loo-MEEEE-na" like a filthy grammar casual...smh
Awesome stuff frost
Fun fact: Lumina is the Thorn but Cleansed. Rose was Thorn before Dreden Yor Got it. So we Give it light instead of making thorn. Creating; Lumina
The main man Frost with the showcase
Got it on console a bit over an hour ago and just as I feared it just isn't great. Ace of Spades and The Last Word are way better exotic kinetic hand cannons. I'm fine with this by the way, not every new exotic has to be the best. It also just doesn't fit my general Crucible playstyle, but I might mess around with it in PvE.
Jacco Stoete haha loser
its sad that on console so many guns are bad because of awful recoil andag
*lag
I agree it's a bit underwhelming in PvP, but it's outstanding in PvE
@@Nightmare-or2yd How is it underwhelming? Literally the only hand cannons that are better than Lumina are Ace and Last Word which are both crazy strong, the best primaries in the game. It wouldn't call "a bit worse than the best weapons there are right now" underwhelming.
Just got this last night.. it took us foreverrrrr. But it was worth it.
Always so excited everytime u post a new vid 👍
Would’ve enjoyed a similar scope to thorn, seeing as how they’re from the same frame and quite similar in almost all ways besides of course that one poisons you and the other heals.
Is this weapon worth getting .
You should try using the perkless rose in pvp
frosty! t h e s n o w m a n
That intro bro😍😍😍
Frosty the snowman!!!
Frost it doesn’t only buff lumina damage when you get the perk damage buff after the noble round so you know 👁
Voltrix Games it does?
@@soccerrules4017 He means it also buffs other weapons equipped
Lmao 1hit bodyshot with snipers
Soccer Rules go watch Ehroar’s video on it... OP isn’t lying. He got the buff on his Beloved in the gameplay he posted shooting at Greg.
Lorenzo Costa mapping kids from even further with Erentil. 😂
I just got it perfect vid to watch since I haven’t used it
The damage is roughly a 30% increase and it applies to your other weapons as well.
It’s 20% in PvP
I heard it doesn't stack, is that right? Or can you get the damage buff + master of arms? 'Cause that would be crazy.
S 117 35%
@@VAVORiAL It has to stack, the buff doesn't disappear when switching to any weapon, I don't see Bungie removing the damage buff just for Recluse.
@@thebygoneking 35% in pve not pvp
It seems like a cool gun. I'd like to see something other than an Exotic Hand Cannon though.
Damn and that wasn’t a 7th column??! How?
The 5th kill was about 2 seconds too long from the others
Sens and Dpi tips?
I would like to know your keyboard and mouse setup
Literally the first one! F Yeah! 💓💓💓
What shotgun are you using
Gotta get used to saving the hip fire shots on this thing...I don't know about Crucible yet, but in pve, the noble rounds do LESS damage. I assume they are regular damage in pvp but I haven't tested it, just want to be sure lol
Noble rounds do less damage in both. So you want to stick with aiming unless your buffing/healing
uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, smooth af.
Looks awesome
What exotic armor piece you use
Dunemarchers
What’s that shotty?
sounds like thorn they trapped a warlock inside a gun
Frost! Looks crazy. I don't understand how firing the weapon works. Can you aim anywhere and still hit your Ally with nobles? Do you actually have to aim at them? What happens when you're solo? 🎉
You have to be able to see them and aim in their general direction. And if you're solo the perk is useless
I was waiting for this lol
biggest complaint is that you can’t really hipfire enemies
You can, the orbs deal damage and pass right through them, so they can still hit other enemies or even your allies. I don't know if one orb can hit you multiple times but if it can, that would be pretty nuts since the orbs bounce from walls.
Relicious but do they do the same amount of damage as a bullet
@@stankguac no. They do less damage
Sunfire1214 a there ya go. at least they do something
@@Sunfirea Nope, they deal the same amount of damage. Only reason I dont like the hipfire is the projectile speed
Wonder what ornaments are on this weapon
You can see one in eververse.
Nice video broo thanks
What is that shotgun and what rolls is he running ?
munawar ahmed that’s a mindbenders ambition, and I think it’s the curated roll that he uses (opening shot and rampage) not sure about rolls however
@@zackzola8147 oh thanks for that man appreciate it
munawar ahmed you got it bro
Does anyone know if Lumina (and other 150's like thorn, sunshot, etc) grants lightweight because of the frame?
They do not, they need to say Lightweight Frame in the intrinsic perk slot.
@@BlakeRogers1434 ahh gotcha. Just curious, cuz that's not always the case
It is the thorn before it was corrupted by the hive. Incase anyone wanted to know the lore
jamiriscollider 2 the rose is the thorn b4 hive
jamiriscollider 2 lumina is literally thorn but instead of dark it’s a weapon forged in light
I find the holo sights to be really disappointing compared to Rose's sights
What shotgun it's that @frost
BLACKHAWK5-7 mindbenders ambition
Mindbender's Ambition
@@krr1spy thanks m8
not using one eye mask....respect for you sir.
Yay new gun let’s go
What shotgun is that?
Mindbenders
Lumina +well synergy???
None
Both get a damage buff
*_Frost is Fast!_*
Is this weapon worth it?
U make it look so easy! Lol nice plays thou!
A lightweight thorn? With healing? Teamshot meta?
I just need the gambit step and the strike for mine🥴
Good content
ice.
Titan 🤩😍
Before cammycakes?? Nani?
great video as usual. but please don't start re-using clips multiple times in one video! one of the things I liked most about your channel was that you don't do that
Am_I_Human aka FindStoicism he’s done this since the beginning bro lmao? He shows a tiny highlight reel of the video and then it shows the play naturally occur during his gameplay. That was really ignorant of you to say lmao.
@@babyjay2932 No, more often than not the highlight reel he shows at the beginning contains clips that are not repeated.
I see a new meta coming
I didnt even get the second queststep because bungo in braindead...
Yep changing the location every hour was stupid
Thank god you’re back man you were cringy on last vids honestly but that’s the frostbolt i wanna see
What
How was he cringe
No one likes a salty bolt xD take the one man nova as a complement. Thats what it takes to shut you down bro man . ;D
I’m the 3rd view and the first comment
Yo I swear you god aim bot 😂
360p Squad!
This Gun ass for me i only can play with my Thorn 😂
It's op and needs to be nerfed in 6 months
Watch little kids whine and say it's too op lol
wait was that a jojo reference
I love you
Hi my name is dorah and lets count how many kinetic exotic hand cannos there are
The commentary is straight up cringe but amazing gameplay
i think he’s a very good commentator but hey it’s your opinion
Really wish you would tone down on the commentating sometimes. I can see what’s happening lol
It’s meant for those to understand his methodology. Newer players appreciate hearing and understanding how he processes the situations. Won’t be for everyone