One thing from Toku that really sticks with me is Geats’ Arc with Nago and her own existence. It was heartfelt, and meaningful. And this is a kids show with a smaller budget, yet has a message that some adult shows won’t even consider touching out of “sensitivity”. It talks about existentialism, the fear of speaking out, the fear that comes from rumors or truths that shouldn’t have ever come to light doing so. When I saw it I wasn’t thinking “Oh this looks really low budget” when I see those clearly green screen explosions. The story and ideas spoke for itself. Hell I rewatched it with a friend who was suicidal and she rethought everything when she saw that episode. It sticks with people. That to me is what Toku can do. Despite all it’s limits with budget, it really can leave something important and memorable with someone of any age.
People are often quick to immediately dismiss Tokusatsu shows because of the fact they associate it with Power Rangers. I love PR but that franchise has essentially tarnished the perception of Tokusatsu as a whole among Western audiences. Granted, it isn't like Toku is some super deep medium to begin with, but there's still a lot of cultural context and appeal that gets lost in translation. The same ridiculous, cheesy, and over the top stuff found in Tokusatsu you can also find in Western superhero comics and various anime, but since they specifically associate Tokusatsu with Power Rangers they're quick to go "eww cringe" and immediately write it off. People see Power Rangers or other Toku shows and immediately go "ew cringe" because they see men in multi colored tights and spandex suits, however men in multi colored tights and spandex suits is also a Marvel/DC thing. They only don't point that out because those franchises are what's socially acceptable to like these days.
I would definitely say toku not having a large budget helps add to the uniqueness if it and why so many people still enjoy it. Look at how many people say marvel movies are bad despite having millions of dollars. Budget doesn't matter, heart and vision do. What do you think? @marcosatsu
I will say, I would LOVE for Tokusatsu productions to have the budged of the big western superhero blockbusters, but when I watch productions like Ultraman and Kamen Rider I remember that Tokusatsu media does what it can and 9 time out of 10 they do it WELL, And it's also part of the charm at this point.
Toku with unlimited budged would be MCU - a cartoon with live actors spliced in. Which is kinda what we already have with King-Ohger, but King-Ohger at least looks FUN. Toku can look cheap, it just can't look half-assed.
There is a point that film, television, and indie gaming sorta use. “Creativity through adversity.” The point is that some productions get more creative when adverse circumstances are present. Making special effects on the cheap can be incredible. Limited sets tend to do well for more dramatic scenes. That tokusatsu shows tend to be lower budgeted than most Western television lends it to creative thinking.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348well it’s partially sometimes budgets can help with a show or movie but it you really care about it enough and make it good enough people could still watch but if the budget is too for something it make look not too great and would make people stay away also if my English is too great it’s due the fact that English is not my first language
What I love about tokusatsu is how it feels like it never really outgrew the “campiness” like most long-running franchises have. When I went to see the last Batman movie, I loved it, but there were a lot of people in the theater wearing classic Riddler costumes. Green suits, green tights covered in question marks, little plastic canes, some even had orange hair like Jim Carrey’s Riddler. So I was kind of disappointed that the actual Riddler in the movie didn’t dress like the Riddler. Batman’s costume was fantastic, but I have to wonder how many more reboots it’ll take for Warner Bros to decide that he doesn’t need a dorky costume anymore either. Just a black hoodie with a bat on the front or something. Compare that to the Shin movies or Amazons, as dark and gruesome as they were, and it’s night and day. I like that.
A lot of American superhero films seem to be oddly insecure about the fact they're based on goofy things like comic superheroes, so they will often to subvert it with quirky meta humor to show they're self-aware, making it needlessly dark or gritty, or both. It is kind of sad.
New Gen Ultraman shows have a fraction of the budget of whatever MCU or Star Wars tie-in show that’s on Disney+, yet put the two in front of me and I’ll always go toward Ultraman because it has a specific flavor that can’t be replicated by Hollywood, budget be damned.
Tokusatsu in general seems to be getting more welcomed and accepted among Western audiences as of late. Shin Kamen Rider and Godzilla Minus One both did pretty well in the USA. I think it might partly be due to the current "superhero fever" many are having with Western superhero media lately. I'd actually agree with you though. Toku is unlike anything else, it's its own unique thing and I enjoy it for that. I'm glad it isn't trying to be like Marvel or every other massive media franchise. Money will never buy you passion.
IMHO toku isnt 'low budget...it's just that other production (Hollywood, I'm looking at you) are over budget. Toku is filmmaking without the WASTE of too much money
Tokusatsu in general does seem to be getting more popular and welcomed among Western audiences nowadays. Stuff like Shin Kamen Rider and Godzilla Minus One both did pretty well in the USA if I'm remembering correctly. Think it might be in part due to how poorly many of the latest Western superhero movies and media have been received (not saying this because I actually think one is better than the other, just stating what I see).
One of the reasons I enjoy Tokusatsu shows so much is the fact that you can clearly see the sheer soul and passion that oozes into most of the shows in the acting, writing, and everything else despite the fact it has half the budget of the more well known Western media franchises like Marvel or Star Wars. All the money in the world will never buy you passion. Of course, people have their own opinions, and not everyone is going to be into Toku regardless of what you say about it. But I still think it should be given at least a chance beyond "oh wow the CGI looks like crap lmao". It's just a very silly and shallow criticism.
I can't really live with the idea of Toku effects being too much like MCU movies, i love it when it's not too much yknow. Like when it seems like it out of budget but honestly even if it was the case, it make it felt realistic in a way
Toku is its own thing that's unlike anything else and that is why I (and many others) enjoy it so much. It has its own unique identity. I'm glad it isn't trying to be like Marvel or every other big media franchise.
I’ll always love Toku for being low budget, the passion is in the writing and acting for me. Toei and Tsuburaya know what they’re doing (well, Japan in general) unlike Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm, Warner Bros/DC and every other english-speaking studio out there. British TV/film feels lacklustre now as well, and this is coming from a Brit who use to love Doctor Who.
I don't neccesarily want this to veer too much into tribalism, but I think more and more people are beginning to realize this, which is why Tokusatsu stuff in general seems to be getting more welcomed and accepted among Western audiences. Shin Kamen Rider/Ultraman and Godzilla Minus One all did pretty well in the USA. Speaking as a Mexican, us LATAM people have a pretty decently sized Toku fanbase as well. Toku has its own unique identity. It's unlike anything else and I'd rather it stay that way. I'm glad it isn't trying to copy Marvel or every other big media franchise.
Forgot this one was coming xd. Either way, hope you all enjoyed. We are all working tirelessly on the toku Iceberg; it's fair to say we are going quite hard, look forward to it.
The thing about the quality of special effects in Tokusatsu shows (and animation in anime) is that it's less about money and more about time, in that the more time is given to work on something, the better it will look. This is why movies and OVAs look WAY better than TV shows, as even if TV shows receive large budgets, the budget is stretched thinner and the process of animation/implementation of special effects has to meet much tighter deadlines than animation/special effects used for movies/OVAs.
The best western comparison I can think of is the old-school (60s-80s) Doctor Who, which managed to be engaging and have a dedicated fandom despite infamously low budgets and cheap sets/monters/effects.
If there's one thing I've learned from watching superhero movies is big budget doesn't matter if the people working on it don't have the time to make it look good.
It can have some impact, but it doesn't outright make or break anything...can limir some things though like... Gatakiriba. But that works as a character thing because in universe it uses a whole bunch of energy for Eiji, who would love to use that kind of power to help as many people as possible but can't for his own sake
that's what film making suppose to be! use creative ways to solve problems (even budget problem)... films nowadays -> throw money in, if it flops blame the audience
Budgets don't matter because many new tokusatsu fans forget that series like kamen rider or sentai and etc were pretty low budget in their era but have evolved due to their respective companies having been used to making them and having methods to make high quality tokusatsu with low budgets This is why i recommend more tokusatsu series to be made because, even if the budget of the series is low the support from series will cause to evolve and eventually become like the big 3 for example ❤
Throughout the 50s and most of the 60s effects movies in Japan were quite expensive. Comparatively more so than Western genre films (aside from a few aberrations like This Island Earth). Same goes for the war films. It became even more sophisticated when Eiji Tsuburaya purchased the Oxberry optical printer that only one other studio in the world had (Disney). Toho was at the forefront until the tv boom in the mid to late 60s. But television of course had to be cheaper. It's not part of the same conversation as the films.
I've come to appreciate Tokusatsu as its own unique art form despite the occasionally rocky and janky production and execution. If they have a budget similar to foreign television productions from South Korea, Europe, and the US it wouldn't be Tokusatsu anymore because of the heavy use of CGI. And we know how that turned out in western superhero shows.
4:33 bruh I was like 8 when almost naked animal came out and it was one of the first shows that I was like “this is bad I ain’t gonna watch it” to even though Cartoon Network always played it give me a deep hatred for it
Power Rangers is a zombie franchise that has suffered from decades of incompetent management. I'm not even trying to say it's worse or anything, it's just facts.
I don't know if it's fair to compare TV budgets with movie budgets since one is suppose to have a be big theatrical release and the other is televised with each new episode coming out each week. It's a little unrealistic to expect movie quality effects every episode, unless your Disney maybe.
@@AngelPerez-tu1nk Like it'd be one thing if the movie wasn't "woke" (by the standards of people who complain about wokeness) but it literally was lmao
I laugh internally when someone brings that up since one of the ideas of being artistic is that you need to question something in one way or another lol. Godzilla with nuclear warfare and Kamen Rider with humanity and freedom comes to mind first for me.
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Robot Chicken is low budget American stop-motion animation, they really have no place making fun of someone else for "clunky" productions values. Oh and they aren't funny either.
I agree but it DOES bother me when I can see a production CHOOSING to be cheap. I love Rider but I watch it and know Tsuburaya is a way smaller company but the production effects that are just so much better, and have been doing so for decades. I know the people working on the show care but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth knowing toei doesn't
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One thing from Toku that really sticks with me is Geats’ Arc with Nago and her own existence. It was heartfelt, and meaningful. And this is a kids show with a smaller budget, yet has a message that some adult shows won’t even consider touching out of “sensitivity”. It talks about existentialism, the fear of speaking out, the fear that comes from rumors or truths that shouldn’t have ever come to light doing so.
When I saw it I wasn’t thinking “Oh this looks really low budget” when I see those clearly green screen explosions. The story and ideas spoke for itself. Hell I rewatched it with a friend who was suicidal and she rethought everything when she saw that episode. It sticks with people.
That to me is what Toku can do. Despite all it’s limits with budget, it really can leave something important and memorable with someone of any age.
People are often quick to immediately dismiss Tokusatsu shows because of the fact they associate it with Power Rangers. I love PR but that franchise has essentially tarnished the perception of Tokusatsu as a whole among Western audiences. Granted, it isn't like Toku is some super deep medium to begin with, but there's still a lot of cultural context and appeal that gets lost in translation.
The same ridiculous, cheesy, and over the top stuff found in Tokusatsu you can also find in Western superhero comics and various anime, but since they specifically associate Tokusatsu with Power Rangers they're quick to go "eww cringe" and immediately write it off.
People see Power Rangers or other Toku shows and immediately go "ew cringe" because they see men in multi colored tights and spandex suits, however men in multi colored tights and spandex suits is also a Marvel/DC thing. They only don't point that out because those franchises are what's socially acceptable to like these days.
Sorry for the clickbait. This was a smaller video from last year so tune in next time for THE ULTIMATE TOKUSATSU ICEBERG TWO PARTER
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I would definitely say toku not having a large budget helps add to the uniqueness if it and why so many people still enjoy it. Look at how many people say marvel movies are bad despite having millions of dollars. Budget doesn't matter, heart and vision do. What do you think? @marcosatsu
I will say, I would LOVE for Tokusatsu productions to have the budged of the big western superhero blockbusters, but when I watch productions like Ultraman and Kamen Rider I remember that Tokusatsu media does what it can and 9 time out of 10 they do it WELL, And it's also part of the charm at this point.
Toku with unlimited budged would be MCU - a cartoon with live actors spliced in. Which is kinda what we already have with King-Ohger, but King-Ohger at least looks FUN.
Toku can look cheap, it just can't look half-assed.
There is a point that film, television, and indie gaming sorta use. “Creativity through adversity.” The point is that some productions get more creative when adverse circumstances are present. Making special effects on the cheap can be incredible. Limited sets tend to do well for more dramatic scenes.
That tokusatsu shows tend to be lower budgeted than most Western television lends it to creative thinking.
budget’s don’t matter if you actually care for what you are working on
Amen! 😌
Nah. That's not true. Budgets still matter.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348well it’s partially sometimes budgets can help with a show or movie but it you really care about it enough and make it good enough people could still watch but if the budget is too for something it make look not too great and would make people stay away also if my English is too great it’s due the fact that English is not my first language
@@rainyzhang6745 It depends
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 I can agree with that
What I love about tokusatsu is how it feels like it never really outgrew the “campiness” like most long-running franchises have.
When I went to see the last Batman movie, I loved it, but there were a lot of people in the theater wearing classic Riddler costumes. Green suits, green tights covered in question marks, little plastic canes, some even had orange hair like Jim Carrey’s Riddler. So I was kind of disappointed that the actual Riddler in the movie didn’t dress like the Riddler. Batman’s costume was fantastic, but I have to wonder how many more reboots it’ll take for Warner Bros to decide that he doesn’t need a dorky costume anymore either. Just a black hoodie with a bat on the front or something.
Compare that to the Shin movies or Amazons, as dark and gruesome as they were, and it’s night and day. I like that.
A lot of American superhero films seem to be oddly insecure about the fact they're based on goofy things like comic superheroes, so they will often to subvert it with quirky meta humor to show they're self-aware, making it needlessly dark or gritty, or both. It is kind of sad.
@allgoodnamestaken6002 Exactly!
New Gen Ultraman shows have a fraction of the budget of whatever MCU or Star Wars tie-in show that’s on Disney+, yet put the two in front of me and I’ll always go toward Ultraman because it has a specific flavor that can’t be replicated by Hollywood, budget be damned.
Nah. They're both good.
Tokusatsu in general seems to be getting more welcomed and accepted among Western audiences as of late. Shin Kamen Rider and Godzilla Minus One both did pretty well in the USA.
I think it might partly be due to the current "superhero fever" many are having with Western superhero media lately.
I'd actually agree with you though. Toku is unlike anything else, it's its own unique thing and I enjoy it for that. I'm glad it isn't trying to be like Marvel or every other massive media franchise. Money will never buy you passion.
Ive always said its never about budget. it's about imagination, and toku has always been light years ahead on that score
IMHO toku isnt 'low budget...it's just that other production (Hollywood, I'm looking at you) are over budget. Toku is filmmaking without the WASTE of too much money
@@alexstrang9823yeh, toku's groundedness allows some spectacular shots without needing a hollywood VFX studio cranking underpaid hours for them
Tokusatsu in general does seem to be getting more popular and welcomed among Western audiences nowadays. Stuff like Shin Kamen Rider and Godzilla Minus One both did pretty well in the USA if I'm remembering correctly. Think it might be in part due to how poorly many of the latest Western superhero movies and media have been received (not saying this because I actually think one is better than the other, just stating what I see).
One of the reasons I enjoy Tokusatsu shows so much is the fact that you can clearly see the sheer soul and passion that oozes into most of the shows in the acting, writing, and everything else despite the fact it has half the budget of the more well known Western media franchises like Marvel or Star Wars. All the money in the world will never buy you passion.
Of course, people have their own opinions, and not everyone is going to be into Toku regardless of what you say about it. But I still think it should be given at least a chance beyond "oh wow the CGI looks like crap lmao". It's just a very silly and shallow criticism.
Low-budget, high-quality, and we all have fun. That's all that should matter. Until the suits say otherwise.
Toku is like an Indy Budget compaired to MCU's Billion Dollar Show on Disney+.
Toku budgets kinda expose the inflated Hollywood budgets, like any MCU film v shin Japan heroes films
I swear sometimes MCU movies are just money laundering
Budget doesn’t matter. Overworking your creatives and visual effects artists does.
I can't really live with the idea of Toku effects being too much like MCU movies, i love it when it's not too much yknow. Like when it seems like it out of budget but honestly even if it was the case, it make it felt realistic in a way
Toku is its own thing that's unlike anything else and that is why I (and many others) enjoy it so much. It has its own unique identity. I'm glad it isn't trying to be like Marvel or every other big media franchise.
As an aspiring filmmaker, part of the reason why I enjoy Toku is BECAUSE of the "low" budget!
I’ll always love Toku for being low budget, the passion is in the writing and acting for me. Toei and Tsuburaya know what they’re doing (well, Japan in general) unlike Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm, Warner Bros/DC and every other english-speaking studio out there. British TV/film feels lacklustre now as well, and this is coming from a Brit who use to love Doctor Who.
I don't neccesarily want this to veer too much into tribalism, but I think more and more people are beginning to realize this, which is why Tokusatsu stuff in general seems to be getting more welcomed and accepted among Western audiences. Shin Kamen Rider/Ultraman and Godzilla Minus One all did pretty well in the USA. Speaking as a Mexican, us LATAM people have a pretty decently sized Toku fanbase as well.
Toku has its own unique identity. It's unlike anything else and I'd rather it stay that way. I'm glad it isn't trying to copy Marvel or every other big media franchise.
I agree with this title
Forgot this one was coming xd. Either way, hope you all enjoyed. We are all working tirelessly on the toku Iceberg; it's fair to say we are going quite hard, look forward to it.
The thing about the quality of special effects in Tokusatsu shows (and animation in anime) is that it's less about money and more about time, in that the more time is given to work on something, the better it will look. This is why movies and OVAs look WAY better than TV shows, as even if TV shows receive large budgets, the budget is stretched thinner and the process of animation/implementation of special effects has to meet much tighter deadlines than animation/special effects used for movies/OVAs.
The best western comparison I can think of is the old-school (60s-80s) Doctor Who, which managed to be engaging and have a dedicated fandom despite infamously low budgets and cheap sets/monters/effects.
If there's one thing I've learned from watching superhero movies is big budget doesn't matter if the people working on it don't have the time to make it look good.
This. I don't care how much budget a movie or show has. If it's soulless slop I am not watching it.
the best part about low budget tokusatsu is that you can make fanmovies that look a lot like the real deal
It can have some impact, but it doesn't outright make or break anything...can limir some things though like... Gatakiriba. But that works as a character thing because in universe it uses a whole bunch of energy for Eiji, who would love to use that kind of power to help as many people as possible but can't for his own sake
that's what film making suppose to be! use creative ways to solve problems (even budget problem)...
films nowadays -> throw money in, if it flops blame the audience
Budgets don't matter because many new tokusatsu fans forget that series like kamen rider or sentai and etc were pretty low budget in their era but have evolved due to their respective companies having been used to making them and having methods to make high quality tokusatsu with low budgets
This is why i recommend more tokusatsu series to be made because, even if the budget of the series is low the support from series will cause to evolve and eventually become like the big 3 for example ❤
Throughout the 50s and most of the 60s effects movies in Japan were quite expensive. Comparatively more so than Western genre films (aside from a few aberrations like This Island Earth). Same goes for the war films. It became even more sophisticated when Eiji Tsuburaya purchased the Oxberry optical printer that only one other studio in the world had (Disney). Toho was at the forefront until the tv boom in the mid to late 60s. But television of course had to be cheaper. It's not part of the same conversation as the films.
I've come to appreciate Tokusatsu as its own unique art form despite the occasionally rocky and janky production and execution. If they have a budget similar to foreign television productions from South Korea, Europe, and the US it wouldn't be Tokusatsu anymore because of the heavy use of CGI. And we know how that turned out in western superhero shows.
Garo goes hard
Toku is like a Gaming Console, they make up for it with the Merchandise Sales.
Thank you for including us again Marcos ❤️🦊❤️
I will always love Tokusatsu no Matter what. Specially with that crap of budget. To me Tokusatsu is perfection and amazing.
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Mystic Knights had a smaller budget than early Scooby-Doo, and has one of the best American Toku storylines!
4:33 bruh I was like 8 when almost naked animal came out and it was one of the first shows that I was like “this is bad I ain’t gonna watch it” to even though Cartoon Network always played it give me a deep hatred for it
If you've seen the latest episodes of King Ohger...god, they're so raw. Power Rangers would never
Power Rangers is a zombie franchise that has suffered from decades of incompetent management. I'm not even trying to say it's worse or anything, it's just facts.
I don't know if it's fair to compare TV budgets with movie budgets since one is suppose to have a be big theatrical release and the other is televised with each new episode coming out each week. It's a little unrealistic to expect movie quality effects every episode, unless your Disney maybe.
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Kappa mikey
Almost naked animals
Camp lazlo
The owl house
I’d say one of the things are defiantly affected are the suits tbh. Let’s face it . The amount of reused suits and lack of forms are budget problems.
I like this fantastic.
A good story can make film consist of bootleg plushie a masterpiece
when will you do kinhohger
What do you mean
Retrospective of kingohger@@Marcosatsu
Will you still cover zio since you drop sentai and ex aid was a hassle?
I love Minue One but if i have to hear about how it succeeded because it wasn't woke one more time i swear to god
Tell me about it
@@AngelPerez-tu1nk Like it'd be one thing if the movie wasn't "woke" (by the standards of people who complain about wokeness) but it literally was lmao
@@Peasham Exactly. The movie already features 99% non-white people and that alone makes it "woke" by the standards of those bigoted rightards.
I laugh internally when someone brings that up since one of the ideas of being artistic is that you need to question something in one way or another lol.
Godzilla with nuclear warfare and Kamen Rider with humanity and freedom comes to mind first for me.
@@cian-neural2594 Well said
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also tony zaret probably doesnt even know what kamen rider is, he just puts stuff in his videos that are suggested by his patreon
Tokusatsu with less than half of the budget of american productions can make more quality entertaining than anything Disney can do now.
Robot Chicken is low budget American stop-motion animation, they really have no place making fun of someone else for "clunky" productions values. Oh and they aren't funny either.
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I agree but it DOES bother me when I can see a production CHOOSING to be cheap. I love Rider but I watch it and know Tsuburaya is a way smaller company but the production effects that are just so much better, and have been doing so for decades. I know the people working on the show care but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth knowing toei doesn't
The budget isn’t controlled by toei
@hjcb2976 bandai then I guess. Either way it's upsetting
@@erikpearl6885 it’s tv asahi