So far great explanation, just want to clarify one thing though the 2 has nothing to do with colors, it's the fact that mutations always increase stats by 2 points
you might be right, i heard in asa you always get a color mutation as well just sometimes you dont see the color do to the dino not have enough reigns or something like that. thats what i was told at least
@RedxThexBoss Yes, it is true that you also always get a color mutation, this specific number is just referring to the amount of stats a Dino has from mutations
I agree with Zank, as the mutation counter at the bottom of the Tek binoc, only raises by 1 Per mutation even though a new colour is created at the same time as a new stat mutation occuring
So basically you can get mutations at random (obviously) like in ASE but now transfer that ex. HP mutation to a completely different HP stat line instead of it being locked down? It seems like that which means the lines are going to be even more insane than the last game lol. Because if you get an hp mutation on a shit 0/0 breeder, you can still move it and combine it with the good dino stat.
Tickle me if im wrong, so the new system just saves alot of time breeding out stats? So you can focus on melee health and stam? Or whatever you wanna focus on?
Have you found any 2 of the same dinos with different stats with the same point level? Inb4 people disbelieve in that, I have 2 screenshots from the official server (Xbox Official Server) of 2 TAMED dinos at level 1 (they were tamed on a (Xbox Official Beginner server) for cleaning stats with 0 mutations and both had different stats at level 1.
This is because they were tamed with different %efficience. If that 2 tamed dinos are male and female and you breed them every single time you get 0 mutations the offsprings with have the same exact value in the stats which in fact will be equal or slighly higher to the parent with greater %eff. ARK Smart Breeding has a dedicated column just to track this kind of discrepancy.
@@whitehack2474 I have breed them, I've got multiple baby's with mix stats from both, 1 had higher melee, and the other had higher health, all still level 1, few had both stats, and alot of them got nether higher stats. 0 imprinting for researching purposes.
@@whitehack2474 yes of course. I've been using Dododex and Stat calculator for years, as an Official server Deinonychus breeder, I know these stats inside and out, but there are a few glitches that slip by.
@@brenon45 I believe there is some incorrect data in what you saying. I played in official too (steam/pc) and there was no level 1 wild dinos. I though you were talking about some unofficial or something. It is impossible due to server difficulty: "this means levels range from 5 to 150, in 5-level increments, with 5.0 Difficulty" (taken from Difficulty page of ark wiki, cant put the link) There was a 4.0 difficulty with minimal wild level 4 when max wild level was 120, but this was way before deinos ever existed. Edit: And also deinos are never wild, they are always breeded and cannot be tamed.
I dont bother with ark taming because 1. I am in a mega tribe and you need to be a freaking expert breeder to be allowed to breed 2. I dont understand how breeding and mutations and getting the stats you want on something works. I often hear the guys cheering about taming and getting a dino with very high melee or health or weight , but no clue why they are so excited about it. So I don't breed or tame and I try to avoid touching any Dino's that have a name related to a stat because I assume they want to use it for breeding somehow.
Could you bump maturation speed and actually test it with a group of 1 male dodo and 10 females. THEN grab a wild 250 dodo and pass the mutations to him? Because it seems to be a huge confusion among breeders right now with these news and TiiaClickBaitAurora news. And I just want to know if it really is like that so I can start mutating.
oh sorry this the video i mixed the comments up, if you didnt understand i explain it at 3:48 and also i diod use a 225 wil dodo to pass the health to @@alejandrocalori6298
It doesnt actually transfer the mutations like that. he just got a new mutation on the dino notice he is only using the +2 mutation instead of using a +4
Just to get it right: Lets say i got a lvl 5 female stego (with lower base health) and a male stego (with 50 points into health). Im muta breeding them until i got like 5 health mutas. So i got 60 points now. How does this new breeding mechanics change something? Cause i always got my low females which dont have a better health stat than the male. Even when i got the muta on a female, i need to get it on a male to keep breeding. If i got a 80 health points stego from a raid (lets say with 15 health mutas) and im breeding the 80 points stego with my 60 points stego line (with 5 mutas into heath) do i get the combined mutas in one? so in Total 90 points and 20 health mutas? or do i get either way the 80 or 60 points? THANKS
Basically the base levels and the levels from mutations are now separate things. So in your first example after 5 mutations you do not have a stego with 60 pts of health, you have a stego with 50 base health points & 10 mutation health points. From your second example, the captured stego would be 50 base health, and 30 mutation health. So at best you could get from mating that is the 50 base health, and 30 mutation health. Now lets say you tame another stego, that has 55 base health, but no mutations yet. You could mate it with the 50 base & 30 mutation stego you captured prior, and get a 55 base & 30 mutation stego.
So simply out, that if a creature has a higher base statistic that if mated with a creature that mutations that it would be retroactive. An example would be that you have a base point of 50 points (no muts )but if you received (trade or raid) a creature that 20 mutations but the base points was 38. As a result, you would have 70 points in total (50 base + 20 muts) Likewise if you somehow kept your base until Gen 2 or tamed a higher desired stat then applied mutagen, it would retrograde into the line
You’re talking about stat points not coming in 1,3,5,7 … mutations can be singular. That shows in the mutation counter, you are looking at stat points. Two different things.
Just to make sure I understand, basically this new way will allow us to farm up mutations then transfer mutations to a Dino with higher base stats to get a super Dino
that is correct. example you tame 2 level 5 pts get a bunch of health mutations on those level 5s then tame a 225 with good stats and pass all those mutations to the new 225 pt
Main point is that mutation points are separate from actual points and they are transferable unlike mutations on ASE which were just added to base points.
Your reasoning why a mutation is 2 points is wrong Your explanation is true but that's not the reason that a mutation shows up as 2 with the Tek binoc's It's because mutations raise a stat by 2 points. This was a develowmt choice. And is not because a colour is tied to a stat As it is possible to pass a state mutation to an offspring without passing the colour mutation over
i thought this was only possible do to the dino not having enough color reigns? at least thats what i was told. i never found out myself but i ll take your word for it
@@RedxThexBoss So I can onlu reference ASE right now as I don't have it on steam In ase, it was possible to get mutations in colour regions that were not visible, and this was not viewable until near the end and cryopods got a.coloir region update. With the Tek binoc's in ASA you should be able to see all 6 colour regions at the bottom of the info display screen which 'should' update. And display if a mutation colour happens in a non visible region. That's assuming that colour mutations can still be gained on non visible regions,
so basically all that changed is, that mutations will always be transfered to a baby. And also Mutations and base stat are now split so u can see what the base stat of the dino was before mutas. Ok vid but ngl u cant explain xD
@RedxThexBoss I didn't get the new part then. Sorry if im mistaken, feel free to clarify whats new. Edit: I read the comments and now I get that its the transfer part thats new. Pretty cool.
crazy how everybody telling you, your test are wrong because 1 person messed their test up💀. Anyway another great video keep up the good work👍
So far great explanation, just want to clarify one thing though the 2 has nothing to do with colors, it's the fact that mutations always increase stats by 2 points
you might be right, i heard in asa you always get a color mutation as well just sometimes you dont see the color do to the dino not have enough reigns or something like that. thats what i was told at least
@RedxThexBoss Yes, it is true that you also always get a color mutation, this specific number is just referring to the amount of stats a Dino has from mutations
I agree with Zank, as the mutation counter at the bottom of the Tek binoc, only raises by 1 Per mutation even though a new colour is created at the same time as a new stat mutation occuring
@@RedxThexBoss yes u do always get a color but it is not "a mutation on its own" its just a side effect of a mutation
@@RedxThexBoss That was always true in A:SE as well. A single mutation comes with two levels in a single stat and a single colour region change.
Hellllllllll yeah. Thanks for testing and proving it, that's *such* a good change.
So basically you can get mutations at random (obviously) like in ASE but now transfer that ex. HP mutation to a completely different HP stat line instead of it being locked down? It seems like that which means the lines are going to be even more insane than the last game lol. Because if you get an hp mutation on a shit 0/0 breeder, you can still move it and combine it with the good dino stat.
So are mutations capped at 20 each now or can they go over like in ASE?
no they go over like ase
Tickle me if im wrong, so the new system just saves alot of time breeding out stats? So you can focus on melee health and stam? Or whatever you wanna focus on?
This is actually pretty cool thanks
Np glad it was helpful
Great video, lets just hope this is an intended feature.
can i ask how do you get that menu on the side to see the stats ?
The Tek binoculars
great videos as always
Thanks, for the support!
so the stat increase was garenteed everytime?
Are the binoculars in official or it’s a mod?
Official, need a rep to make em tho, unless you play on unofficial
@@RedxThexBoss that’s a W I always wanted an item to see stats on tames in ASE
so always breed (a mutated male) with clean high level female?
you can do it with mutations too if the mutation showed up on the weaker dino you can go on and pass it to the correct dino if that makes sense
can you do videos on how to cheese bosses
Sure, I can cover that soon
Does it matter if the mother or father has the mutation? I’m assuming not but I gotta ask
doesnt matter
All those people on the other vid talking out their asses… good on you man. Thanks for the info.
and they are nowhere to be found now lol
Do we still want the mutation to be on the male line?
well you can just pass it over now so it doesnt really matter much i think, depends on how the stats are i guess
Have you found any 2 of the same dinos with different stats with the same point level?
Inb4 people disbelieve in that, I have 2 screenshots from the official server (Xbox Official Server) of 2 TAMED dinos at level 1 (they were tamed on a (Xbox Official Beginner server) for cleaning stats with 0 mutations and both had different stats at level 1.
This is because they were tamed with different %efficience. If that 2 tamed dinos are male and female and you breed them every single time you get 0 mutations the offsprings with have the same exact value in the stats which in fact will be equal or slighly higher to the parent with greater %eff.
ARK Smart Breeding has a dedicated column just to track this kind of discrepancy.
@@whitehack2474 I have breed them, I've got multiple baby's with mix stats from both, 1 had higher melee, and the other had higher health, all still level 1, few had both stats, and alot of them got nether higher stats.
0 imprinting for researching purposes.
@@brenon45 you export the dinos to ark smart breeding and it says 0 point in each stat right?
@@whitehack2474 yes of course. I've been using Dododex and Stat calculator for years, as an Official server Deinonychus breeder, I know these stats inside and out, but there are a few glitches that slip by.
@@brenon45 I believe there is some incorrect data in what you saying. I played in official too (steam/pc) and there was no level 1 wild dinos. I though you were talking about some unofficial or something.
It is impossible due to server difficulty:
"this means levels range from 5 to 150, in 5-level increments, with 5.0 Difficulty"
(taken from Difficulty page of ark wiki, cant put the link)
There was a 4.0 difficulty with minimal wild level 4 when max wild level was 120, but this was way before deinos ever existed.
Edit: And also deinos are never wild, they are always breeded and cannot be tamed.
I dont bother with ark taming because 1. I am in a mega tribe and you need to be a freaking expert breeder to be allowed to breed 2. I dont understand how breeding and mutations and getting the stats you want on something works. I often hear the guys cheering about taming and getting a dino with very high melee or health or weight , but no clue why they are so excited about it. So I don't breed or tame and I try to avoid touching any Dino's that have a name related to a stat because I assume they want to use it for breeding somehow.
it can be confusing
Could you bump maturation speed and actually test it with a group of 1 male dodo and 10 females. THEN grab a wild 250 dodo and pass the mutations to him?
Because it seems to be a huge confusion among breeders right now with these news and TiiaClickBaitAurora news. And I just want to know if it really is like that so I can start mutating.
check out the video i posted i did what you said
Just recently? I can't see any new video yet@@RedxThexBoss
oh sorry this the video i mixed the comments up, if you didnt understand i explain it at 3:48 and also i diod use a 225 wil dodo to pass the health to @@alejandrocalori6298
It doesnt actually transfer the mutations like that. he just got a new mutation on the dino notice he is only using the +2 mutation instead of using a +4
If you breed 2 mutated ones does the mutation stack?
at the very end i explain that
I mean like if you had 2 health mutated dodos they have exact same stats and if you breed them does it gain a health mutation
haven't tested that far but it should in theory @@llamz9946
@@llamz9946 so far no it doesnt
Just to get it right:
Lets say i got a lvl 5 female stego (with lower base health) and a male stego (with 50 points into health). Im muta breeding them until i got like 5 health mutas. So i got 60 points now. How does this new breeding mechanics change something? Cause i always got my low females which dont have a better health stat than the male. Even when i got the muta on a female, i need to get it on a male to keep breeding.
If i got a 80 health points stego from a raid (lets say with 15 health mutas) and im breeding the 80 points stego with my 60 points stego line (with 5 mutas into heath) do i get the combined mutas in one? so in Total 90 points and 20 health mutas? or do i get either way the 80 or 60 points?
THANKS
Basically the base levels and the levels from mutations are now separate things. So in your first example after 5 mutations you do not have a stego with 60 pts of health, you have a stego with 50 base health points & 10 mutation health points. From your second example, the captured stego would be 50 base health, and 30 mutation health. So at best you could get from mating that is the 50 base health, and 30 mutation health. Now lets say you tame another stego, that has 55 base health, but no mutations yet. You could mate it with the 50 base & 30 mutation stego you captured prior, and get a 55 base & 30 mutation stego.
So simply out, that if a creature has a higher base statistic that if mated with a creature that mutations that it would be retroactive. An example would be that you have a base point of 50 points (no muts )but if you received (trade or raid) a creature that 20 mutations but the base points was 38. As a result, you would have 70 points in total (50 base + 20 muts)
Likewise if you somehow kept your base until Gen 2 or tamed a higher desired stat then applied mutagen, it would retrograde into the line
it seems pretty common for the baby to get the higher stat now isnt it?
it does seem that way in my testing most of the babies would grab the higher stat. could just be good luck tho so hard to say
In ASE it was a 60% chance to get the higher stat I believe.
55, it was always this way
You’re talking about stat points not coming in 1,3,5,7 … mutations can be singular. That shows in the mutation counter, you are looking at stat points. Two different things.
oh man so you don't need to get both the mutation and the high level stat. that's cool
Just to make sure I understand, basically this new way will allow us to farm up mutations then transfer mutations to a Dino with higher base stats to get a super Dino
that is correct. example you tame 2 level 5 pts get a bunch of health mutations on those level 5s then tame a 225 with good stats and pass all those mutations to the new 225 pt
@@RedxThexBoss whats the point thought might aswell just do what we did before
@@vladimirvladimirovichputin5347 you can pass on your mutation stacks to a dino with a higher base stat if you happen to find one. that's pretty big.
@vladimirvladimirovichputin5347 you don't have to wait to find the best stats for your starting breeding line...
correct@@184Dadada
nice work
That's crazy. So if we have a low lvl with 20000 mutation we can basically tame an high lvl f to get an op dino?
tbf if you got 20k mutation, an extra 145 wild levels wont make much difference on your level 20005 dinosaur.
yeah you right. Did you know if we can do this with a mutated f with high stat?
@@dmystic
You explained it fine in the first one I thought 😅
Some people thought i was just getting lucky and getting another mutation on the baby! So i figured i would show it this way.
You can explain it 1000 times but looks the same as ASE to me.
Main point is that mutation points are separate from actual points and they are transferable unlike mutations on ASE which were just added to base points.
Your reasoning why a mutation is 2 points is wrong
Your explanation is true but that's not the reason that a mutation shows up as 2 with the Tek binoc's
It's because mutations raise a stat by 2 points. This was a develowmt choice. And is not because a colour is tied to a stat
As it is possible to pass a state mutation to an offspring without passing the colour mutation over
i thought this was only possible do to the dino not having enough color reigns? at least thats what i was told. i never found out myself but i ll take your word for it
@@RedxThexBoss
So I can onlu reference ASE right now as I don't have it on steam
In ase, it was possible to get mutations in colour regions that were not visible, and this was not viewable until near the end and cryopods got a.coloir region update.
With the Tek binoc's in ASA you should be able to see all 6 colour regions at the bottom of the info display screen which 'should' update. And display if a mutation colour happens in a non visible region.
That's assuming that colour mutations can still be gained on non visible regions,
so basically all that changed is, that mutations will always be transfered to a baby. And also Mutations and base stat are now split so u can see what the base stat of the dino was before mutas. Ok vid but ngl u cant explain xD
So basically its the same thing as it was in ASE, nothing new there
Wrong
@RedxThexBoss I didn't get the new part then. Sorry if im mistaken, feel free to clarify whats new. Edit: I read the comments and now I get that its the transfer part thats new. Pretty cool.
Yeah sorry if i wasnt clear enough @@codzilla360
Sweet!
Very!
Higher level better stats better mutations 😂😂😂
day unknown, W vid lmao
congrats on da 500 broski
Thanks man! Couldn’t have done it without the support you guys been showing me! Especially you!
got me tearin up a bit LMAO, ofc man you def deserve it! @@RedxThexBoss
You are quite bad at explaining things 😂👍
NICE
Thank youu
took your advice and made the video a little bit longer, hope this clear things up a little better
@@RedxThexBoss yes it does, thanks, im referring to all my friends to this vid.
Thank you, you are the greatest @@bunnyprowler