Rescuers are probably the most varied tbh; Mercenary can say fuck you to the hunter and tank a hit or terror shock and still rescue, he's also a good kiter. He is probably the only rescue that can actively detention rescue and if he has perfume he can detention rescue AND body block. First Officer is literally about mind games and he has a 5 second window to still get a rescue and he is probably the only rescue that doesn't have a decoding debuff, he actually gets a decoding buff. Journalist can get guaranteed rescue or she can be a kiter, or she can support. Grave Keeper is probably the only rescue that can counter Ann and Night Watch, he is also a good kiter and he can body block without getting injured. Wilding is a whole different ballgame; He can kite, he can harass, he can rescue. Rescue arguably has more flavors than harassment, decoder, and kiters. Just cause they need to multitask the entire game; They need to decode, they need to rescue, they heal, they need to keep track of the other survivors locations and chair status while keeping themselves alive.
Just one small correction, FO does in fact have a decoding debuff, it's %20 percent. His watches increase his decoding by %7 up to %14 percent so if he uses both his decoding is still debuffed by %6 which isn't bad ^^
It sounds like he wants rescuers to be designed more like embalmer or something. But there’s a reason embalmer isn’t a rescuer even though he technically gets people off the chair
with all the respect I think the video was more like a hunter main's rambling that an actual issue... like im guessing the point he was trying to make is that the 3 rescuers (merc, gk and fi) can somehow still get to the chair when far away and if you find and hit them early - gk can use showel, fi can use his pocket watch and merc just has delayed damage + elbow pads, so nonetheless they will still most likely get the rescue successfully. but like... that's the entire point lmao. they're rescuers for a reason and that's why journalist is considered weaker than them, because if you find her too early and if she's too far there's a chance that she won't be able to use her rescue orphy, she gets hit, the hunter catches up and it's over. but its like if percy main was mad that barmaid psych and doc exist because if you ban either or 2 of them theyre just gonna pick another bcs they all can heal but differently. or as if hermit was complaining about the same characters because they can somehow tank shared damage lol
Yes because its the point doesnt mean that point isnt flawless. Having characters who repeat the same formula which works for most hunters is just a badly designed way to make rescuers. Coordinator used to have the niche of getting free rescue at the cost of a bad kiting which usually force you into using it if you want while kiting but would cost you the free rescue later. (she got buff so it doesnt matter now). However these characters being journalist, merc and first officer pretty much play the same having the free rescue items while also being able to kite, because of that they have a decoding debuff which regardless doesnt matter that much if you get consistent rescues. Gravekeeper should not be included because he has his niche which is basement rescue. Gravekeeper also doesnt have a free rescue item like journalist, first officer and mercenary while still being good at rescue. The point the video want to make i believe is mostly trying to say these rescue characters are badly designed because in the end they just do the same thing if not for the tiniest bit of difference in their kit. Which cause them to just be replaced by a character who do the same thing with no niche that force them to be used except when they are hard counter which in this case is not because they are "well" designed. Zeus had the argument of saying X hunters does better at clutching rescues against X survivors but that is just not applicable because the game does not revolve around these hunters. In the end what i'm trying to say is the fact that you dont pick specific rescuer for their niche but rather because they just act similarly than the better counterpart or simply you like these characters.
@@perceptionidv I mean, You can't just pick a Rescuer and it works 90% of the time, The guy was coming from a rank perspective which means imbalance of skill which makes it seem like rescuers are one track more than they actually are; You can use a Mercenary to rescue against an Opera Singer but that doesn't mean he's on the same level or the same as Officer against Opera Singer, if anything Mercenary isnt good against opera because of she patrols the chair and sees Mercenary she can just snipe him down before he gets the the chair. The same with Ivy, Wax Artist, Ann, BQ, Naiad, Bon Bon, etc. rescuers in rank come off the same because rescuers in rank just run straight into the hunter without zero care. The rescue meta is shaped by the hunter meta as well, Mercenary is probably the only safe rescue against Ivy due to the fear delay as of now, Wilding and Grave keeper can be pulled from their abilities and Officer has the corruption effect shown on him even if he's invisible. People are also just using what they're comfortable with, Batter is a sub rescue, Coordinator is a rescue, and iirc Puppeteer is a sub rescue as well but people use them for kiting and support just cause they're better at that, Coord wasn't really a good rescue cause she only had one gun, Puppeteer came in when the Game Keeper was meta which technically counters puppet, and better.....who tf uses him for rescue. Rank rescues run right towards the hunter and barely use their abilities so they all come off as the same. Regarding OPs comment, if a hunter goes against every rescue and they can still get a guaranteed rescue, that's either a skill issue or the fact that the hunter picked a character that just isn't good at botching rescues.
@@perceptionidv to each their own i guess. i disagree that it's a bad design as all the rescuers still work differently and ppl already explained why either of the rescuers is better than another in a certain situation because there are hunters that counter either merc, officer or gravekeeper.
@@TuberoseKisser The rescue meta isnt shaped by the current meta because it just make some good rescuer become better against some meta hunter. You would still get a high chance to rescue with no risk if you have merc for example against most hunters.
for the sake of wins i always recommend having at least 2 or 3 mains: the character you actually have fun with (namely a kiter), a harasser (because some team comps dont have any support capability) and a rescuer (theyre all boring but you need them to win and nobody plays fucking rescuers)
Playing rescuer is genuinely the most miserable job I've ever done. First kite is important but so is first rescue, and a bad one can hinder the teams chance of victory. Also besides this its just embarrassing 😞 I've been S GK and failing a save makes me itch my teeth and want to leave the match immediately
I would say i also find rescuers boring cus you are probably never gonna get chased unless you are hard countered like a merc vs a percy or a wilding vs a gamekeeper but i also get why. Rescuing in itself is pretty risky and detrimental so they probably dont wanna add more stress to a category that is already pretty underrepresented. Thats why i probably like journalist more than the others cus a lot of the stress and risk for the rescue is traded for a higher skill cap in terms of kiting and most of the times you’ll also get chased first which keeps things fun. She also does well against all hunters cus of how versatile her ability is, you can either use it for body blocks, completely blocking a god pallet, for speed and transition, support and you have 4 of them.
rescue is my favorite role and its my main role. on coord/cowboy rn i always switch it up with merc, forward and officer too.the similar play styles is literally why i like playing rescue. 😭
the first 9 minute yap was just a stretched out way to say "all characters have a specific niche and counter on different maps" i almost 👌 started tweaking 👻 from how long it was 🤯
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Rescuers are probably the most varied tbh; Mercenary can say fuck you to the hunter and tank a hit or terror shock and still rescue, he's also a good kiter. He is probably the only rescue that can actively detention rescue and if he has perfume he can detention rescue AND body block. First Officer is literally about mind games and he has a 5 second window to still get a rescue and he is probably the only rescue that doesn't have a decoding debuff, he actually gets a decoding buff. Journalist can get guaranteed rescue or she can be a kiter, or she can support. Grave Keeper is probably the only rescue that can counter Ann and Night Watch, he is also a good kiter and he can body block without getting injured.
Wilding is a whole different ballgame; He can kite, he can harass, he can rescue.
Rescue arguably has more flavors than harassment, decoder, and kiters. Just cause they need to multitask the entire game; They need to decode, they need to rescue, they heal, they need to keep track of the other survivors locations and chair status while keeping themselves alive.
Just one small correction, FO does in fact have a decoding debuff, it's %20 percent. His watches increase his decoding by %7 up to %14 percent so if he uses both his decoding is still debuffed by %6 which isn't bad ^^
It sounds like he wants rescuers to be designed more like embalmer or something. But there’s a reason embalmer isn’t a rescuer even though he technically gets people off the chair
with all the respect I think the video was more like a hunter main's rambling that an actual issue... like im guessing the point he was trying to make is that the 3 rescuers (merc, gk and fi) can somehow still get to the chair when far away and if you find and hit them early - gk can use showel, fi can use his pocket watch and merc just has delayed damage + elbow pads, so nonetheless they will still most likely get the rescue successfully. but like... that's the entire point lmao. they're rescuers for a reason and that's why journalist is considered weaker than them, because if you find her too early and if she's too far there's a chance that she won't be able to use her rescue orphy, she gets hit, the hunter catches up and it's over. but its like if percy main was mad that barmaid psych and doc exist because if you ban either or 2 of them theyre just gonna pick another bcs they all can heal but differently. or as if hermit was complaining about the same characters because they can somehow tank shared damage lol
Yes because its the point doesnt mean that point isnt flawless. Having characters who repeat the same formula which works for most hunters is just a badly designed way to make rescuers. Coordinator used to have the niche of getting free rescue at the cost of a bad kiting which usually force you into using it if you want while kiting but would cost you the free rescue later. (she got buff so it doesnt matter now).
However these characters being journalist, merc and first officer pretty much play the same having the free rescue items while also being able to kite, because of that they have a decoding debuff which regardless doesnt matter that much if you get consistent rescues.
Gravekeeper should not be included because he has his niche which is basement rescue. Gravekeeper also doesnt have a free rescue item like journalist, first officer and mercenary while still being good at rescue.
The point the video want to make i believe is mostly trying to say these rescue characters are badly designed because in the end they just do the same thing if not for the tiniest bit of difference in their kit. Which cause them to just be replaced by a character who do the same thing with no niche that force them to be used except when they are hard counter which in this case is not because they are "well" designed.
Zeus had the argument of saying X hunters does better at clutching rescues against X survivors but that is just not applicable because the game does not revolve around these hunters.
In the end what i'm trying to say is the fact that you dont pick specific rescuer for their niche but rather because they just act similarly than the better counterpart or simply you like these characters.
@@perceptionidv I mean, You can't just pick a Rescuer and it works 90% of the time, The guy was coming from a rank perspective which means imbalance of skill which makes it seem like rescuers are one track more than they actually are; You can use a Mercenary to rescue against an Opera Singer but that doesn't mean he's on the same level or the same as Officer against Opera Singer, if anything Mercenary isnt good against opera because of she patrols the chair and sees Mercenary she can just snipe him down before he gets the the chair. The same with Ivy, Wax Artist, Ann, BQ, Naiad, Bon Bon, etc. rescuers in rank come off the same because rescuers in rank just run straight into the hunter without zero care. The rescue meta is shaped by the hunter meta as well, Mercenary is probably the only safe rescue against Ivy due to the fear delay as of now, Wilding and Grave keeper can be pulled from their abilities and Officer has the corruption effect shown on him even if he's invisible.
People are also just using what they're comfortable with, Batter is a sub rescue, Coordinator is a rescue, and iirc Puppeteer is a sub rescue as well but people use them for kiting and support just cause they're better at that, Coord wasn't really a good rescue cause she only had one gun, Puppeteer came in when the Game Keeper was meta which technically counters puppet, and better.....who tf uses him for rescue. Rank rescues run right towards the hunter and barely use their abilities so they all come off as the same. Regarding OPs comment, if a hunter goes against every rescue and they can still get a guaranteed rescue, that's either a skill issue or the fact that the hunter picked a character that just isn't good at botching rescues.
@@perceptionidv to each their own i guess. i disagree that it's a bad design as all the rescuers still work differently and ppl already explained why either of the rescuers is better than another in a certain situation because there are hunters that counter either merc, officer or gravekeeper.
@@TuberoseKisser The rescue meta isnt shaped by the current meta because it just make some good rescuer become better against some meta hunter. You would still get a high chance to rescue with no risk if you have merc for example against most hunters.
for the sake of wins i always recommend having at least 2 or 3 mains: the character you actually have fun with (namely a kiter), a harasser (because some team comps dont have any support capability) and a rescuer (theyre all boring but you need them to win and nobody plays fucking rescuers)
how can i be bored when i get to hear daddy murro's whimpers every game? (i am fully aware i need help)
me with andrew
@@savantisq4549this is so real
@@savantisq4549 real
zeus you’re so majestic also my man jose is never boring i love him 😍
Maybe if IDV makes a rescuer that can knock the hunter out then do a backflip ill be happier 🙄
You guys want Survivor to hunt the hunters at this point one day hunter will start running away from Survivors
@@NapstabIook LMFAOOAOA , dgmw i also want a hunter that can beat the survs with their fist. Fools gold aint enough i need a boxer
this is basically anti
@@weeping_willows yeah but she frontflips NOT backflips 🙄🙄🙄
@@starkilled tsk... maybe YOUR anti.. her kit is adapted to do both in identity 6
As a José main I'm entertained enough just from looking at his handsome face 😋
it took me like a good 5 minutes to realize you were in the corner
Playing rescuer is genuinely the most miserable job I've ever done. First kite is important but so is first rescue, and a bad one can hinder the teams chance of victory. Also besides this its just embarrassing 😞 I've been S GK and failing a save makes me itch my teeth and want to leave the match immediately
I would say i also find rescuers boring cus you are probably never gonna get chased unless you are hard countered like a merc vs a percy or a wilding vs a gamekeeper but i also get why. Rescuing in itself is pretty risky and detrimental so they probably dont wanna add more stress to a category that is already pretty underrepresented. Thats why i probably like journalist more than the others cus a lot of the stress and risk for the rescue is traded for a higher skill cap in terms of kiting and most of the times you’ll also get chased first which keeps things fun. She also does well against all hunters cus of how versatile her ability is, you can either use it for body blocks, completely blocking a god pallet, for speed and transition, support and you have 4 of them.
rescue is my favorite role and its my main role. on coord/cowboy rn i always switch it up with merc, forward and officer too.the similar play styles is literally why i like playing rescue. 😭
18:50 Pearl dijo la posta. Soy FO main, me encanta rescatar y kitear con él, pero me lo sacas y no puedo tocar otro rescuer sin floppear AJJAJAJA
I wouldn’t be surprised if they also complained that all survivors had the game plan of decoding and surviving
Can never been bored playing rescuers since my random always need me in 5s always in action to be bored🙂↕️
the first 9 minute yap was just a stretched out way to say "all characters have a specific niche and counter on different maps" i almost 👌 started tweaking 👻 from how long it was 🤯
i agree ( i havent watched the video )
Flywheel merc when? and w yap session tho 10/10
Yo zeus you lowkey fine asf😩