The amazing thing is , that a part of the wooden floor still there after all these decades , she's looks in good shape for 96 years on water . It's a pre dreadnought ship , the armor plates that compose the hull & others parts are extremely thick, it is good to specify this big detail. Belt: 6 to 8 inches (150 to 200 mm), backed by 9 to 11 inches (230 to 280 mm) of teak Breastwork: 8 to 9 inches (200 to 230 mm) Turrets: 9-to-10-inch (230 to 250 mm) Deck: 1 to 1.25 inches (25 to 32 mm) With such shielding and given its condition, maybe it would be possible to save her .
Hi Frederic, unfortunately the hull has deteriorated too and is now at risk of collapse. They have removed part of the turrets to reduce the weight. Unfortunately the local council is going to fill it with concrete to stop it collapsing. Locals are fighting the decision.
@@antonio_travels Yes I saw that the turrets still had their gun support mechanism on the video, it's crazy for a country like England to have left this ship which today must be the only one still "alive" of this era and this type of ship, knowing that you are a country that retains a whole bunch of warships from all eras, from sail, to steam, to more modern. I hope that at worst it could be cut up to be moved and rebuilt or at least put in dry dock to be able to expose it in the state by reinforcing it for the reconstruction, you know a bit like the German submarines that some countries have come up to exhibit.
That is amazing footage and I can’t believe it is in such good shape after all those years in the ocean It should have been saved all those years ago and not sunk there I bet it they hadn’t have done that it would have been scrapped and then it would be gone for ever
Thanks David, I think that it was almost scrapped, but bought by the council to use as a breakwater. Local community is now trying to get it preserved before it's too late.
You would need to establish some sort of aboriginal heritage for that to happen. Such is the world today. Or maybe a gay crewperson it could be named in honor of?
Hi Will, that would be the best way to go, but I think the local government wants to fill the hull with concrete. Of course everyone is objecting, but as always comes down to money!
@@antonio_travels outside of the USA, there are very few ironclad monitors from that period. Such a significant relic, particularly if restored would be a tourist attraction. I would cite the Peruvian/Chilean warship Huascar as an example. However ours is even older and Mark's the transition from wood sailing ships to ironclad steam. It is more significant than Admiral Togos flagship Mikasa in Japan.
@@antonio_travels Filling the hull with concrete would be the ultimate act of vandalism. That Australian public servants would even consider this a viable option shows a level of ignorance that is not apparent in other western governments. And money spent on this ship will go straight back into the Victorian economy. That money is not lost unless it is spent on imported cars etc. If you budgeted 5 million per year for the next 5 years, we could do the following: 1. Build a 250 meter long breakwater from the point to the wreck site 2. Build a cofferdam around the wreck. Stabilize the ship and pump out the sand and debris. Restoration work commences. 3. Once the deck is relined and the bridge reconstructed, it can open to the public and start generating economic revenue. 4. Work continues on the hull. It is sealed, then girders are horizontally bored under the hull at the bulkhead locations. These girders are connected to an external frame work. Depending on the condition of the hull, it can either be attached with pontoons and floated to shallow water on the tides for eventual hauling onto the beach, or it can be hydraucally raised in situ and backfilled until it is above the high tide level. I think that in the long term, it would be a mistake to cerberus it in the water. As for historical significance. This ship is a product of the dawn of the industrial revolution. One of the main technology drivers of the industrial era was the need for trade, shipping and the protection of commerce. Warships became the embodiment of the culmination of the most advanced technologies of the time. Permanent navies did not exist before Henry 8th establlished the infrastructure for the royal navy. Warships evolved from ore powered rams to sail powered cannon armed wooden shipsover a few thousand years and stayed that way until La Gloire was completed in 1860 and HMS Warrior in 1861. These were the worlds first steam powered ironclads. In the space of just 2 years, warship construction and power had advanced more than the previous 300 years. The first US Ironclads USS Monitor and CSS Virginia appeared a llittle later in 1862. The Huascar comissioned in 1866 and Cerberus launched in 1868. Monitor and Virginia were not ocean going ships. La Gloire and Warrior had masts and yards. Huascar and Cerberus represent that first generation of ocean going ironclads where sails and rigging were dispensed with. These are the first generation of ships where men no longer fought under masts and yards. HMS Victory is preserved as the last ship of the line. USS Constitution is a frigate of that same era. HMS Warrior is preserved as the second steam powered ironclad warship (the first iron hulled) Sections of the USS Monitor have been salvaged and are under restoration Huascar and Cerberus represent the only other warships of this era. Cerberus can be restored to the same standard as Huascar. I then hark back to the nincompoop who wants the fill the hull of Cerberus with concrete. What a moron. The choice is obvious. Spend the money on building a proper breakwater and salvage the Cerberus. Watch that investment of money cycle around teh Victorian economy making more jobs. Add a historically significant tourist attraction and assess the investment against the income generated by Huascar and Mikasa. Be a political hero by doing something economically innovative as opposed to filling it with concrete. What politician would not want to do this?
The amazing thing is , that a part of the wooden floor still there after all these decades , she's looks in good shape for 96 years on water .
It's a pre dreadnought ship , the armor plates that compose the hull & others parts are extremely thick, it is good to specify this big detail.
Belt: 6 to 8 inches (150 to 200 mm), backed by 9 to 11 inches (230 to 280 mm) of teak
Breastwork: 8 to 9 inches (200 to 230 mm)
Turrets: 9-to-10-inch (230 to 250 mm)
Deck: 1 to 1.25 inches (25 to 32 mm)
With such shielding and given its condition, maybe it would be possible to save her .
Hi Frederic, unfortunately the hull has deteriorated too and is now at risk of collapse. They have removed part of the turrets to reduce the weight. Unfortunately the local council is going to fill it with concrete to stop it collapsing. Locals are fighting the decision.
@@antonio_travels Yes I saw that the turrets still had their gun support mechanism on the video, it's crazy for a country like England to have left this ship which today must be the only one still "alive" of this era and this type of ship, knowing that you are a country that retains a whole bunch of warships from all eras, from sail, to steam, to more modern.
I hope that at worst it could be cut up to be moved and rebuilt or at least put in dry dock to be able to expose it in the state by reinforcing it for the reconstruction, you know a bit like the German submarines that some countries have come up to exhibit.
She’s sunk down into the sand a lot more than I remember her from the 70’s when I often dived it.
Apparently she is sinking about 1 to 2cm per year.
Good footage
Thanks Edgar! 😀👍
That is amazing footage and I can’t believe it is in such good shape after all those years in the ocean
It should have been saved all those years ago and not sunk there
I bet it they hadn’t have done that it would have been scrapped and then it would be gone for ever
Thanks David, I think that it was almost scrapped, but bought by the council to use as a breakwater. Local community is now trying to get it preserved before it's too late.
Things were really made to last back then. Wow!
I know, these days everything is to minimum cost and disposable.
This is incredible! Great footage!
Thank you sir. 😀
Great shot! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! 😀
great shot! well done!
Thank you. 😀
Great video my friend!!! Excellent!!!
Excellent footage 👍🏴subbed
Thanks
Really good idea for a video, great footage and smooth flying👍🏽 Got my support and sub🙂 keep it up! ☝🏽
Thanks 😀
Wow! Great footage👍🏻
Thank you. 😀
Awesome footage 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Jojo.
Wow! That was beautiful!
Thanks 👍
What a cool place to see. Looks awesome from the air. Nice video.
Awesome drone filming ! Love the water reflections and how smooth u flying !
Cheers
Well done my friend!
Awesome shots, nice job.
Thank you. 😀👍
I hope they can preserve her.
Yes, Hopefully it can last for generations to come.
You would need to establish some sort of aboriginal heritage for that to happen. Such is the world today.
Or maybe a gay crewperson it could be named in honor of?
Beautiful view!
I estimate she’s in about 12’ - 20’ (4m - 7m) of water?
Good guess, around 12' or 4m.
Great flying
Cheers
Very cool perspectives on the subject matter. Nice, smooth flying.
Chrees
Impressive footage. New subscribe. Victoria is in Australia?
Thank you. Yes, it is!
Surprising, considering i think that would be pre nuclear steel
Built from iron in 1867
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That's part of our naval history and should be saved
Certainly is, unfortunately council's don't see it that way. It would cost them too much even if they had a grant.
Should have been saved, it's a part of our history.
Should have been, but local government has no interest in saving it. They just want to fill her with concrete! It's probably too late now. 😕
This ship needs a cofferdam and some reservation work before it is lost.
Hi Will, that would be the best way to go, but I think the local government wants to fill the hull with concrete. Of course everyone is objecting, but as always comes down to money!
@@antonio_travels outside of the USA, there are very few ironclad monitors from that period. Such a significant relic, particularly if restored would be a tourist attraction. I would cite the Peruvian/Chilean warship Huascar as an example. However ours is even older and Mark's the transition from wood sailing ships to ironclad steam. It is more significant than Admiral Togos flagship Mikasa in Japan.
Hi Will, I just looked up the Huascar and Mikasa, Looks like we have missed a great opportunity with the Cerberus by letting to go for too long.
@@antonio_travels The ship can still be salvaged. It is iron and corrodes much slower than steel.
@@antonio_travels Filling the hull with concrete would be the ultimate act of vandalism. That Australian public servants would even consider this a viable option shows a level of ignorance that is not apparent in other western governments. And money spent on this ship will go straight back into the Victorian economy. That money is not lost unless it is spent on imported cars etc.
If you budgeted 5 million per year for the next 5 years, we could do the following:
1. Build a 250 meter long breakwater from the point to the wreck site
2. Build a cofferdam around the wreck. Stabilize the ship and pump out the sand and debris. Restoration work commences.
3. Once the deck is relined and the bridge reconstructed, it can open to the public and start generating economic revenue.
4. Work continues on the hull. It is sealed, then girders are horizontally bored under the hull at the bulkhead locations. These girders are connected to an external frame work. Depending on the condition of the hull, it can either be attached with pontoons and floated to shallow water on the tides for eventual hauling onto the beach, or it can be hydraucally raised in situ and backfilled until it is above the high tide level.
I think that in the long term, it would be a mistake to cerberus it in the water.
As for historical significance. This ship is a product of the dawn of the industrial revolution. One of the main technology drivers of the industrial era was the need for trade, shipping and the protection of commerce. Warships became the embodiment of the culmination of the most advanced technologies of the time.
Permanent navies did not exist before Henry 8th establlished the infrastructure for the royal navy. Warships evolved from ore powered rams to sail powered cannon armed wooden shipsover a few thousand years and stayed that way until La Gloire was completed in 1860 and HMS Warrior in 1861. These were the worlds first steam powered ironclads. In the space of just 2 years, warship construction and power had advanced more than the previous 300 years.
The first US Ironclads USS Monitor and CSS Virginia appeared a llittle later in 1862. The Huascar comissioned in 1866 and Cerberus launched in 1868. Monitor and Virginia were not ocean going ships. La Gloire and Warrior had masts and yards. Huascar and Cerberus represent that first generation of ocean going ironclads where sails and rigging were dispensed with. These are the first generation of ships where men no longer fought under masts and yards.
HMS Victory is preserved as the last ship of the line. USS Constitution is a frigate of that same era.
HMS Warrior is preserved as the second steam powered ironclad warship (the first iron hulled)
Sections of the USS Monitor have been salvaged and are under restoration
Huascar and Cerberus represent the only other warships of this era. Cerberus can be restored to the same standard as Huascar.
I then hark back to the nincompoop who wants the fill the hull of Cerberus with concrete. What a moron.
The choice is obvious. Spend the money on building a proper breakwater and salvage the Cerberus. Watch that investment of money cycle around teh Victorian economy making more jobs. Add a historically significant tourist attraction and assess the investment against the income generated by Huascar and Mikasa. Be a political hero by doing something economically innovative as opposed to filling it with concrete. What politician would not want to do this?