I started to listen to Procol Harum when I was 14 years old. That was 1970. I am a 67-year old woman from Finland. I have seen almost all your videos Andrew. Thank you❤ (sorry my english is not good)😊
Your English is perfect, and what you say is sublime. My girlfriend at the time and I used to hug and kiss in the dark with Procul Harum Salty Dog on the turntable.
How old are you? It's hard to believe you had not heard of Procol Harum. I saw them 3 times- in 1972 (Nashville), 1973 (Atlanta) and 2019 (Nashville). I met BJ Wilson at the show in Atlanta where he and the rest of the band signed an LP cover me. He greeted me with a smile and was just the nicest guy. They were one of the greatest Rock bands I have ever seen. RIP BJ Wilson, Gary Brooker and the other band members no longer with us.
..saw Procol Harum in Auckland decades ago. I was centre front at the Auckland Town Hall. Procol Harum set up with BJ Wilson set up centre stage, up front. I spent the whole concert with BJ's bass drum literally pounding in my face. A total privilege to see him play. RIP.
Its difficult to hear someone say they haven't heard of Procol Harum as i believe they are the best band ever. BJ passed away in October 1990 after beingin in a coma following an accident. The Who also enquied about him becoming the replacement for K.Moon. He later played in Joe Cockers band. I would encourage anyone to check out their albums starting with Home or A Salty Dog .
Actually, start with the self-titled debut, which I first got because Hendrix said he loved it. 'Outside the Gates of Cerdes' is worth the price of entry. Also, though 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' appears on most versions, Wilson and Robin Trower are not on it. The band's original guitarist, Ray Royer is who we hear and the drummer is Bill Eyden of Georgie Fame's band (which is where Mitch Mitchell was prior to Hendrix), who did that record as a session man. But Trower and Wilson are on the rest.
I’m drumming since 1963. PH was one of my favorite groups of the 60s. I met BJ in the early 70s at a live radio broadcast (WNEW-FM) fro A&R studios in NYC. He was a total gentleman and even showed me how he used paradiddles in songs like Power Failure and Whisky Train. I believe he was also a drummer in British military bands in his days before PH. RIP, BJ.
Procol Harum had a monster hit in 1967 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' before Wilson was in the group. It is one of the very biggest-selling singles ever (10 Million), so that's where most folks know of them. My first exposure to BJ Wilson's drumming was on Lou Reed's 'Berlin' album, which- for a toweringly depressing record- was a sonic delight. He is definitely in the conversation of the best drummers of all time.
BJ Wilson was a great orchestrator. Imagine Ringo on A Day in the Life only with BJ's technique. He always had something interesting to add without ever getting in the way.
I add here some additional insight on BJ Wilson, one of my absolute fave players. - Page and Wilson appear on Joe Cocker's 'With A Little Help From My Friends' album, doing several tracks including the title tune. They were called in for the title tune after Stevie Winwood (guitar) and Jim Capaldi (drums) of Traffic made 32 attempts but could not nail the 12/8. Page as a session player and Wilson as someone accustomed to playing in that time signature with Procol nailed it. Though Procol were quite well known at that point due to 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' being a global #1 (the song of '67 and apparently the most played pop song of all time) it is very possible Page was unfamiliar with his playing, so the Cocker sessions might have been his first exposure. - When assembling Led Zep, Page had several players in mind including his session pals Clem Cattini (missed two invitations to chat with Peter Grant/Jimmy Page because he was busy w/sessions) and Bobby Graham (heard on the early Kinks singles though at the time a producer). Page, minus a band and with the Yardbirds having blown their reputation in the UK thanks to producer Mickie Most having them record a string of uncharacteristic (and failed) singles was having trouble finding players interested in joining him. Wilson's gig with Procol remained the better option. - You are right about the British drummers being influenced by jazz. Jon Hiseman, Keef Hartely, Colin Allen, Ian Paice, Carl Palmer, Pete York, Blinky Davidson...all were listening to the American jazz greats, most notably Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Joe Morello, and the drummer with Duke Ellington and Count Basie. Keith Moon and Ginger Baker both decided to add a second bass drum after seeing Sam Woodyard with Duke Ellington. However, despite hearing jazz drummers, BJ wasn't a jazzer. Much of his style came from playing snare drum in a boy's brigade marching band and playing R&B with the Paramounts, which included future Procol Harum bandmates Gary Brooker and Robin Trower (as well as Chris Copping, I believe). - Procol Harum circa 1970, going by the name Liquorice John Death, did a straight-up rock 'n' roll album named 'Ain't Nothing to Get Excited About' wherein they cover classics from Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis etc. - BJ was using playing paradiddle combinations on the cowbell in the late 60s (listen to 'Whisky Train') and a linear approach long before we heard similar from Steve Gadd. - Wilson typically did not use a gong, so I was surprised to see one here. The gong idea, BTW, came from Carmine Appice, which is where Bonham got it (as well as his drum kit and some of his licks). - Wilson is also heard on the soundtrack album for 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show' and in his post Procol career toured and recorded with Joe Cocker. He is also on 'Hurtsome Body' on the debut Leon Russell album, which includes an all-star lineup on a great records produced by Procol and Cocker producer Denny Cordell and engineered by Glyn Johns, whose credits include the debut Zeppelin album. Despite speculation, the cause of BJ's death is still unclear. Music Industry insiders said he died after a lengthy period spent in a coma after an overdose of Tylenol. - Barry 'BJ' Wilson was a unique and fabulous player and remains one of my absolute faves alongside Richie Hayward, Richard Bailey, David Garibaldi, Mitch Mitchell and the few others who brought something fresh, innovative and inspiring to the late 60s/early 70s rock scene. Thank you for featuring him. I see from the comments that this episode has introduced many viewers to BJ and Procol. And now you know too! Here is a killer track that exemplifies BJ and the band in the early/mid 70s. th-cam.com/video/GD0n01pj9fU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ProcolHarum-Topic
Barrie James Wilson is my ll-time favorite drummer. Has been for half a century. He loved Levon, Helm & even played mandolin because Levon did. There are songs in which Bee Gees work is so moving, even when subtle, that it brings me to tears. “About to Die” “A Rum Tale” Anything, really. “A Souvenir of London” vid shows BJ on mandolin (it’s a video setup, but it shows PH’s humorous side). BJ did not play on “A Whiter Shade of Pale.” That was session drummer Bill Eyden. Broken Barricades is one of my favorite albums. I am a penniless Memphis musician who plays everything, including Cajón with a stomp box, on which I’ll let BJ be my guide. Thank you ever so much for listening to and appreciating Procol Harum, and especially BJ.
Just watched this again Andrew. To twig your memory, you surely recall Whiter Shade of Pale which was Procol Harum's 10 million + seller back then. They were not one hit wonders and had many more gorgeous songs such as Salty Dog, Homburg, Whaling Stories (which is an absolute symphonic/poetic gem). They are as prolific as Beatles although did not get the support and publicity. All members of the band have now passed on, BJ in his early 40s, Gary just last year plus the rest so there must be an incredible jam going on in Heaven! Procol Harum preceded Led Zeppelin.
In 1972, the Procol Harum album Procol Harum Live: In Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra and its hit single "Conquistador" became the first orchestral recording to achieve international platinum sales.
Procol Harum = best band ever; my absolute top band, even before the BEATLES (though they never got even 10 % as famous - they just avoided songs like "Yesterday" or "Obladi-Oblada"; they avoided middle-of-the-road schmaltz). You can buy all their first eight records until (incl.) "Exotic Birds & Fruit" - they are all great! B. J. Wilson = drummer extraordinary! Barry added another creative and illustrative dimension to any PROCOL HARUM song! Nott just a rock drummer guiding the band through any tune - he was a true originator; he was a composer of magical drum tracks. So go out and get yourself all those records - and enjoy hours of rock delicatessen!
Drummer with the Paramounts mid60s then into Procol Harum from 67, though he did not play on A Whiter Shade of Pale (now you MUST have heard of Procol Harum). BJ played on the session of Joe Cocker's With a Little Help from my Friends, after another famous drummer failed in a session the previous day. Best work with Procol- -Grand Hotel and Live at Edmonton albums for starters! Died young in the U.S. after a coma for a couple of years. Admired as a drummer and as a friend by Bob Siebenburg. Finally this track was written to highlight BJ - Power Failure, so the drummer had to take over on his own. The nickname "Octopus in a Bathtub" came from a journalist doing a review.
I'm not a drummer I'm a keyboardist but I found this video very interesting! I have heard of procul harum as I'm 73 years old so that I am acquainted with the 60s as! But as to B J. Wilson he certainly had a different stance as to his approach to the drums! This was a great video and the commentary was very knowledgeable and appreciated! Thanks, and I'll be waiting for your next video!
I saw Procol Harum many times since 1970. Sadly their leader Gary Brooker died in 2022. However, BJ Wilson was very faithful to the band through the 70’s until they disbanded in 77. It was hard to watch a concert without taking your eyes off of BJ and his amazing drumming. Jimmy Page and BJ are featured on Joe Cocker’s “With a little help from my friends “. Legend has it that bringing BJ in cemented that track after earlier attempts with other drummers. He was a great instrumentalist and is sorely missed.
Been a fan of BJ since 1967. Best UK drummer ever but of course that is opinion. I describe him as being an "orchestral drummer" as in he actually leads the band even though Gary Brooker has always been the leader of Procol Harum. There is a rare recording with him on Whiter Shade of Pale where he leads the band thru a different timing of the the original song and it is beautiful. Salty Dog albumn is by far is best drumming I think. Sad day when he died, what a wasted talent to drugs and alcohol
Their massive international hit, “A Whiter Shade of Pale”. Live with Danish Symphony Orchestra is essential as was the 1967 original record. It’s required material for every living creature in this universe.
Glad you enjoyed that clip Andrew. Definitely old school, (traditional grip, cowbell...). I didn't realize B.J. was so jazz influenced. A lot of that generation were. Charlie Watts, (The Rolling Stones), Mick Avory, (The Kinks), Giger Baker, (Cream), and John Densmore (The Doors) were all jazz drummers before becoming rock drummers.
For the most part all the British drummers of note were jazz-influenced or inspired because that was the only music they got to hear where drummers were features. Converesely, someone like Ringo was influenced by American R&B and rock 'n' roll...but then he was more groover that 'drummer' in the sense of chops and solos. Interesting that BJ's paradiddle cowbell action would have come from his time in the boy's brigade band where he played marching snare drum. He would have been one of the few to actually have rudimental training, thus the confusion with him being a 'jazz' player. By contrast, Carl Palmer, Mitch Mitchell and Jon Hiseman were jazzers.
Absolutely BJ was influenced by jazz and has a jazz style. In fact, he wanted to play in a jazz band. His style is very reminiscent of Joe Morello (who played with the Dave Brubeck Quartet) and who, in turn, was influenced by Art Blakey.
saw them live in 70s - these were some of best shows I've ever seen. Just mesmerizing. bj, along with Mitch Mitchell and John Densmore, were among my favorite drummers.
@@cheneyrobert Yes, Bill Eyden (of Georgie Fame's band, where he either preceded or took over from Mitch Mitchell) is on 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' though he did that as a session; he was not a member of the band. The band's drummer, Bobby Harrison, missed the session, thus Eyden. Harrison later recorded it but his version was rejected. As a result he was denied royalites when the tune was a hit, so he quit, as did guitarist Ray Royer. Wilson and Robin Trower, former bandmates of singer/pianist Gary Brooker in the Paramounts, a band managed by Brian Epstein and whose only notable record, a cover of 'Poison Ivy', was produced by George Martin.
Anyone over 50 knows Procol Harem, A Whiter Shade of Pale was their most famous tune. There is a wonderful version live in Holland but it's not the drummers delight you may expect but still a terrific performance. Sadly we just lost Gary Brooker not too long ago, the voice of the band...RIP Gary
Must admit that I am only familiar with Whitter Shade of Pale. Damon Che, from the Math Rock band Don Cabellero, also has an od set up with a low seat. Don Cab is sort of a poor man's King Krimson. Speaking of King Crimson, have you done any reviews of them? Particularly during the Trak/Vroom era when they had two drummers (Bill Bruford and Pat Masteleotto)?
Drummed with The Paramounts, then Procol Harum (though not on the 10m selling single A Whiter Shade of Pale). Procol broke up 1977, Bj went off with Joe Cocker for a few years (having played on Joe's hit single With a Little Help...) He played the entire recording session on the album of the musical Rocky Horror Picture Show (as did guitarist Mick Grabham from Procol). Sadly died 1990 in the USA after a few years in a coma. Played on all their first era albums..... and on Gary Brookers's third solo album..... Procol reformed in 1990 andfinally dispanded with the death of Gary Brooker in 2022. BTW I saw them live more than 30 times. BJ's best recorded work - Grand Hotel and Live at Edmonton... and of course that clip you have here!
They were on the go before Zeppelin. Also featured Robin Trower on guitar, who left before this gig. This song was from the Broken Barricades album with Trower and Wilson at their best. It's one of the all time great rock albums from a uniquely British band.
You'll undoubtedly realize you're familiar w/some PH pieces. In many BJ Wilson underplays. He's always serving the piece. Maybe a couple come to my mind; "Broken Barricades" (studio or if there's a live version before he died in '90), "Unquiet Zone", "TV's Caesar"; gosh more are coming to me! So much on the Grand Hotel, Exotic Birds and Fruit, and Salty Dog albums!
I'm 49, and I knew who procal harem were when I was about 14. Watching TOTP oldies...AWSOP from 67. BJ Wilson was a natural, with amazing rhythm holds the left hand back and joins in the fills late, but is in perfect time.
Saw them live at the Hollywood Bowl with LA Philharmonic along with choir, have almost their entire album (all vinyl) collection. BJ is buried just a few miles from where I live even. Learned that only about 15 years ago. They did full orchestra shows Rarely. First was in Canada with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra and BJ used truck mirrors to see the conductor. BJ could do his own syncopation between his left and right arms, knew when to add drama by bits of silence. Vastly underrated. The band itself debuted with the song Whiter Shade Of Pale which was a number one hit and then largely slid under the radar with the tune Conquistador from the Edmonton gig putting them back on the airwaves briefly. Their catalog is extensive with odd pieces, great rocking tunes, intense prog rock flashes, R&B. Difficult to categorize…. Band leader Gary Brooker (piano and vocals) wrote most of the music and a lyricist Kieth Reed wrote words he would send to Gary that would then be fit into music he had been working on. Very unique band. Kieth’s lyrics are indescribable some views of deep introspection, topical observations, and at times macabre. Aside from their debut WSOP they were largely unknown but if you bought their first album, its depth hooked you for life…. Anytime you hear a song titles Something Followed Me and hear it refers to my own tombstone….. BJ was VASTLY UNDERRATED.
As mentioned above BJ played drums on Joe Cocker’s debut, “With A Little Help From My Friends” (quintessential BJ !!). Like Moon, BJ liked to wander into the melody. Another good example is this live version of Conquistador: th-cam.com/video/VbF_G0XFTK4/w-d-xo.html (1973). BJ was tall & lanky and at 6 ft. (1.83m) tall it explains how he had such great arm reach while sitting so low on his throne (thus “The Octopus in the Bathtub”).
I know Procol Harum. John Lennon once said "A Whiter Shade of Pale", even my dog has heard that one, was the favorite song of the 60's. Robin Trower [Bridge of Sighs], guitarist, was also an original member until he went solo. This particular song is on the "Broken Barricades" album. "Simple Sister" is my favorite one off that album.
Queen were heavily influenced by Procol Harum, Queen a more simpler less progressive version. Both seamlessly meshing classical music with rock and pop music. Gary Brooker composed all the arrangements Brian May has played with Procol often as a tribute, also Queens drummer Roger, has played on their albums - Well's On Fire - Shadow Boxed. Procol do not get enough recognition, as they have done some amazing music other that White Shade Of Pale..
Procol Harum had one of the greatest British invasion singles, "Whiter Shade of Pale"- over 10 million copies sold. Had the good fortune to see them live, and, yes, BJ Tomas stood out. Quite impressive.
Well hello! Since Jimmy Page tried to recruit BJ at the formation of LZ, then obviously PH existed before LZ. Totally different rock genres: PH was symphonic, gorgeous, poetic rock with a sometimes hard edge (simple sister) while LZ was totally bombastic Bonham pounding and not so subtle. BJ existed in the Bach world of subtle musicians plus was a beautiful humble human! LOVE!
Provolone Harum we’re a major part of the explosion of great bands and musicians in the late 60s. Their sound was very different though. The classical tone and Kieth Reid lyrics set them apart, and IMHO, above many of the bands then. I liked the early albums with Trower and Fischer the best but regardless of personnel Brooker maintained a tight sound and was always true to the play book. I saw them at the Fillmore West once. Santana was on the bill too
I saw them open for Jethro Tull……B.J. was reportedly offered the drums by the Who after Keith passed away…..the group is named after a Burmese cat…🤔🤔🤔😂🤣great trip down memory lane 👏👏👏🥂
I always thought the drum fills in Whiter Shade of Pale were pretty good (I was around when it was released !) but I didn't know the drummer was THAT good. Octopus in the bath tub....good description 😂
B.J. Wilson didn't play on that one - the drummer for "A Whiter Shade of Pale" was Bobby Harrison, a session drummer brought in for that famous recording. B.J. was brought in (to rejoin his old mates Gary Brooker and Robin Trower from a previous band called The Paramounts) once it was apparent that Procol Harum had a massive hit on their hands, and they needed a touring line-up to promote the single, as well as new material slated for their first album.
Everyone I've ever known who says "I've never heard of this band", I say "Yes you do, go listen to 'A Whiter Shade Of Pale', and they come back and say, 'Oh, THEM!'" (Even though B.J. doesn't play on that song).
Funny that you mentioned Buddy Rich. When asked if there were any rock drummers he liked on a TV show he replied “ BJ something …” and the audience shouted “ Wilson”. He was voted best drummer in several polls back in the early 70s when Procol were fairly popular . Page has said of him , “ nobody can touch BJ Wilson “.
A Whiter Shade Of Pale was their classic track, also Conquistador (gotta be the live version)...if you listen to those two tracks you'll be up to speed on these guys.
Procol did have a few killer songs but BJ Wilson's great talent was a bit wasted on them. Listen to him on the 1971 live recording of A Salty Dog. Really gorgeous drumming. I saw them. Iive in the mid 70s. He was tons of fun to watch because they would have him set up sideways to the stage.
Check out Procol Harum Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony and the Da Camera Singers 1971. They came out in 1962 with Whiter Shade of Pale. Poetry, Rock, symphonics. Predate Led Zep.
Holy shit. I had no idea their drummer was that good. He's like buttah. I got a fevah, and the only prescripition...is more cowbell. Lordy, this guy has to be in the top 10. Odd technique but he's a beast anyway. I think I have to get this album also. Reminds me of Keith Moon but is much better than him. So I have heard them many times but mostly on FM. The common stuff like "Whiter Shade of Pale." I do have a record of theirs but haven't played it in years. Also have with symphony concert CD which is of course very good. But this music is epic. I strongly suspect they are not as widely known as Zeppelin for instance.
BJ = none can compare - so subtle, inventive, totally creative genius! Bonham and others are pounders in comparison. Amazing that Procol Harum was comprised of the best of the best including Robin Trower for a few years, Chris, Matthew and best rock/opera voice ever, Gary Brooker. Remember when Whiter Shade of Pale came out, John Lennon played it in his car and asked his chauffeur what he thought!? Peter Frampton said WSOP is best rock song of all time in Rick Beato interview. Rick never did review or comment on Procol Harum. No idea why since was one of the most creatively diverse amazing bands ever.
A Whiter Shade Of Pale does not have B.J. on drums but Bobby Harrison, B.J. would have given a much more interesting performance to it; just listen to A Salty Dog and you'll hear what I'm takling about
Procol Harum was a bigger deal I think in the UK than the USA -- but they produced a number of really good records beginning circa 1967 and into the late 1970's. Pianist Gary Brooker continued with reformations of the band into the mid-2010's. Robin Trower was their guitarist until circa 1972/73 when he went solo. They were a rock-pop band but had a bit of a progressive tilt to their stuff, especially as the early 70's hit and on albums Broken Barricades (Trower's last with them, includes Power Failure), and 1973's Grand Hotel, the first after Trower left.
I see I’m pretty late in the replies. I guess Andrew, it says you posted maybe 18+ hours ago. It’s 5-29-23 /2am CA time. Many have already shared for you what came to mind. Procol Harem was pretty well known here in the states. Yet, I know there were many of our American bands who were so much more widely received in England/Europe 1st. Then, they came back to the states, and took off. Not always though. I do believe Chicago had a similar experience when Terry Kath guitarist, writer, etc. (he could play other instruments too) was with the band. I read not too long ago more about Terry’s background. Had he not died early, they maintain, he was one of the best guitarists ever. Had he lived longer, he might have made an even greater impact. Anyway, I didn’t know until I was in 18 or 19, and I’d been playing the drums since I was 15, I always thought “Whiter Shade of Pale” was something that Lynyrd Skynyrd had done. Or, perhaps even “The Allman Brothers”. I was 18 in 1980. So, here I was playing the drums; I totally missed that entirely. Until, my drum teacher kindly educated me. I was talking to him about a solo from Free Bird. Somehow, it lead to other songs. In which I made mention of this cool song (Whiter Shade of Pale) mind you, had been recorded what in 67’. 13 years earlier. Man, was I way off then. Not only, not a southern US rock band but, this great band from England. I then saw how much I was missing. Anyway, great clip of them playing. And yes, very low seating for even me. At, 5’3”, I always have had a lower seating set up. Yet, his was a low rider. Thanks and I guess the cowbell comments may be in relation to our friend El Estepario’s tunes. I have to say, I love hearing the cow bell. Ciao…..
Actually, BJ would have been in Led Zep had he not chosen to stay with Procol. He's signature is all over the the first 10 albums that Procol Harum did. He was not just a time keeper.
“A Whiter Shade of Pale” (from the 60’s) Andrew? That was their ONE and ONLY popular hit. Robyn Trower was their original guitarist. Anywho, “Power Failure” is a track from “Broken Barricades” album. I have been a fan since I hear the album “A Salty Dog” which is considered a classic. I STRONGLY recommend you take a day off and listen to Procol’s entire discography. Fun Fact 😊, One of BJ’s favourite drummers was Levon Helm. IMHO, if you listen to “The Band”, you can hear similarities. Levon’s impeccable sense of time and rhythm (even while singing lead!) are reminiscent of BJ at times. When you mentioned Vinnie, I detected some similarities with his solo’s, fills, that remind me of BJ Wilson. I only just got your channel popping up in my TH-cam feed. Thank you for venturing to the “dark side” with this band. The band had a sixth “founding” member, namely Keith Reid. He and Gary Brooker wrote most of the material. Keith Reid’s favourite topic seems to be “death”. This is most apparent on the album “Home”. It is fun writing about this. I was so grateful to have been born in 1949. As a “different/difficult” teenager in the sixties, I took refuge in the music of Procol Harum, Traffic, The Who, The Small Faces (Steve Marriott era), Spooky Tooth. Thanks for your channel, Andrew.
Procol Harum had a 6 week No 1 hit with A Whiter Shade of Pale in the summer of 1967. I don’t believe they did ANYTHING wrong. But they were more beloved perhaps in the States of USA. BJ WILSON was a joy to watch live. I half thought of him as a male ballerina when watching him drumming live at gigs. He was a very special Percussionist.
Not at all, us in the USA loved the band right out of the gate. Whiter Shade of Pale is played every summer across the country. It took on a summer cult status as soon as it debuted and it still goes on to this day...
@@oldguyespo640 Thanks, old guy Espo. I stand (sit!) corrected. Yes I remember Whiter Shade of Pale but in my time frame (62 yrs old) and location (Atlanta), that was about it, as far as air play, etc. went for Procol Harem. The states are so big; regionally we have different experiences of how the music went down.
@@helenlig323 True, the south had a hard time with the SINFUL ROCK and ROLL. They loved their country music which now has become the bastion for R&R, since Rap and Hip Hop has pretty much taken over the airwaves. It's funny how things change...
@@oldguyespo640 ...although, as a point of pride (!), the Atlanta I was in (people and neighborhood) and still reside, was always more urban than all that. We'd always say there's Atlanta, and then there's The South. We never listened to country music, for example...
No they were bigger in the states than UK and for we British fans were annoyed they spent more time in the states,.They were so underrated it's unbelievable personally they are my favourite band of all time.
Thanks so much Andrew. BJ's recognition is long overdue. I think you'll also like a live version of this track "Repent Walpurgis" that I am attaching. Could have been from the same time frame. I was struck by his use of ghost notes in the intro.th-cam.com/video/wQC7Kk4WOPU/w-d-xo.html
The manner in the '70s (especially if you had a B.J. Wilson in your line-up) was to have some sort of obligatory live showcase for virtually any band that had a great drummer. It in fact became such a cliche, that some great bands had some fun with it. The live version of "So Sincere" by Gentle Giant has a segment where the entire band takes a drum solo (which includes some "tinkly" high tuned percussion in the middle and then morphs into a tribal groove to finish out). The joke, of course, with Gentle Giant was that their music was extremely arranged, and that therefore, the drum solo should logically also be "all for one, and one for all" - definitely worth a look. th-cam.com/video/pIaG8a9ACYY/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Procol Harum had their mega hit "Whiter Shade of Pale" back in 1967 (or there abouts). Gary Brooker, their piano player and lead vocalist died in 2022. He was a great talent. He composed all the music for the orchestra and choir. By chance, not knowing they were still around, I got to see them in 2019 in concert on Long Island, New York. The whole concert from Denmark is available on TH-cam. Here is another song I thought you might like from that concert. Two fellas from the orchestra provide drumming assistance at the beginning. th-cam.com/video/2IvbunWoysI/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewRooneyDrums While I remember. If you haven't checked out this band, here is your chance. The band is The Hu. They are from Mongolia. This is a well-produced video of their song Wolf Totem. It includes some traditional instruments and throat singing. You may wish to share this with your subscribers. th-cam.com/video/2oSuIEKbQNw/w-d-xo.html
Listen to "A Whiter Shade of Pale"....1967. Procol Harum was the original group to release the song, BUT it has been done a million times by other groups. Probably their claim to fame!!
Speaking of 70s bands, check out Truth and Janey. Fantastic if somewhat obscure prototypical '70s hard rock band. Only a couple albums, but you can't go wrong with anything off of: No rest for the wicked. Check it out 😉
B. J. Wilson lacked the big name but was widely respected. Urban legend has it that he turned down the drum seat in Led Zepplin before John Bonham. Unfortunately drugs and lifestyle took him way too early. Most people just know Whiter Shade of Pale but Procol Harum defied definition but put out many great albums over the years.
I saw procol harum here in the United States in 1993. They were the opening act for the Jethro Tull 25th anniversary tour. They were actually better than Jethro Tull. What I'm not sure of is if this guy was still there drummer at the time I saw them.
Procol Harum evolved from the Paramounts, an R&B group. Keith Reid was a lyricist who wrote poetic words. Gary Brooker wrote the music. Originally, Robin Trower was their early guitarist with a blues background. Matthew Fisher was a bassist, then organist who wrote music and produced songs. A Whiter Shade of Pale was their opening #1 hit with Matthew’s magnificent organ. I think of BJ as a percussionist, rather than a drummer. Besides hard rockers, BJ could create delicate percussion for their baroque, classically influenced songs.
I started to listen to Procol Harum when I was 14 years old. That was 1970. I am a 67-year old woman from Finland. I have seen almost all your videos Andrew. Thank you❤ (sorry my english is not good)😊
Your English is perfect, and what you say is sublime. My girlfriend at the time and I used to hug and kiss in the dark with Procul Harum Salty Dog on the turntable.
BJ Wilson was the coolest drummer of any rock band. (Been a huge fan of PH since ‘68, very biased) Tragic that his life was so short.
How old are you? It's hard to believe you had not heard of Procol Harum. I saw them 3 times- in 1972 (Nashville), 1973 (Atlanta) and 2019 (Nashville). I met BJ Wilson at the show in Atlanta where he and the rest of the band signed an LP cover me. He greeted me with a smile and was just the nicest guy. They were one of the greatest Rock bands I have ever seen. RIP BJ Wilson, Gary Brooker and the other band members no longer with us.
totally agree....a super sweet human and a shame he felt depressed enough to end his life on Earth.
..saw Procol Harum in Auckland decades ago. I was centre front at the Auckland Town Hall. Procol Harum set up with BJ Wilson set up centre stage, up front. I spent the whole concert with BJ's bass drum literally pounding in my face. A total privilege to see him play. RIP.
NICE!!! Great mid sized venue isn't it
@AndrewRooneyDrums ..great legacy for Auckland.
Its difficult to hear someone say they haven't heard of Procol Harum as i believe they are the best band ever. BJ passed away in October 1990 after beingin in a coma following an accident. The Who also enquied about him becoming the replacement for K.Moon. He later played in Joe Cockers band. I would encourage anyone to check out their albums starting with Home or A Salty Dog .
Actually, start with the self-titled debut, which I first got because Hendrix said he loved it. 'Outside the Gates of Cerdes' is worth the price of entry. Also, though 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' appears on most versions, Wilson and Robin Trower are not on it. The band's original guitarist, Ray Royer is who we hear and the drummer is Bill Eyden of Georgie Fame's band (which is where Mitch Mitchell was prior to Hendrix), who did that record as a session man. But Trower and Wilson are on the rest.
@@MrCherryJuice I'm happy listening to 99% of Procol songs.very view I have any problems with.
Not a happy correction but, according to Wikipedia, the three-year coma before his death was caused by an intentional drug overdose.
Sad for such a sweet soul to resort to that........someone somewhere could have helped. @@ilikethisnamebetter
Don’t miss any of the first 5 Procol albums! Saw them play this song in 71.
I’m drumming since 1963. PH was one of my favorite groups of the 60s. I met BJ in the early 70s at a live radio broadcast (WNEW-FM) fro A&R studios in NYC. He was a total gentleman and even showed me how he used paradiddles in songs like
Power Failure and Whisky Train. I believe he was also a drummer in British military bands in his days before PH. RIP, BJ.
My favorite PH song is Salty Dog. I’ve requested my family play it at high volume at my memorial service when lay down my sticks forever.
@@panpeeker And there's your dinner, brother. BJ is a drummer who frees his drums to say everything they can say.
I saw them live at Fillmore East many times....and Central pk. Schaefer concerts..... aa drummer always loved Wilson
Procol Harum -- greatest name for a group ever. B.J. Wilson. Most underrated drummer ever. Check out Whiskey Train.
Many better than Keith moon...
Initial reaction......ooooooooo??? Then...... watching. Watching. Watching. Not one word! Just.....watching. Lovely! BJ stuns another!
Pretty much!
B J, the octopus drummer......what a dude. he played drums on the film soundtrack of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Time Warp etc.etc.
I've been a fan of PH since 1967. You must listen to "A Salty Dog" and "Repent Walpurgis" they both feature dramatic drumming by BJ Wilson.
Conquistador is another great song of Procol Harum. First time I've ever seen a drum solo from them, awesome!
If you're even a little interested in Procol Harum drumming, Conquistador is the obvious next step. Can't miss it.
I remember well B.J.Willson’s fills in the Conquistador (Edmonton symphony orchestra version). They were something else in that time.
Procol Harum had a monster hit in 1967 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' before Wilson was in the group. It is one of the very biggest-selling singles ever (10 Million), so that's where most folks know of them. My first exposure to BJ Wilson's drumming was on Lou Reed's 'Berlin' album, which- for a toweringly depressing record- was a sonic delight. He is definitely in the conversation of the best drummers of all time.
BJ Wilson was a great orchestrator. Imagine Ringo on A Day in the Life only with BJ's technique. He always had something interesting to add without ever getting in the way.
I add here some additional insight on BJ Wilson, one of my absolute fave players.
- Page and Wilson appear on Joe Cocker's 'With A Little Help From My Friends' album, doing several tracks including the title tune. They were called in for the title tune after Stevie Winwood (guitar) and Jim Capaldi (drums) of Traffic made 32 attempts but could not nail the 12/8. Page as a session player and Wilson as someone accustomed to playing in that time signature with Procol nailed it. Though Procol were quite well known at that point due to 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' being a global #1 (the song of '67 and apparently the most played pop song of all time) it is very possible Page was unfamiliar with his playing, so the Cocker sessions might have been his first exposure.
- When assembling Led Zep, Page had several players in mind including his session pals Clem Cattini (missed two invitations to chat with Peter Grant/Jimmy Page because he was busy w/sessions) and Bobby Graham (heard on the early Kinks singles though at the time a producer). Page, minus a band and with the Yardbirds having blown their reputation in the UK thanks to producer Mickie Most having them record a string of uncharacteristic (and failed) singles was having trouble finding players interested in joining him. Wilson's gig with Procol remained the better option.
- You are right about the British drummers being influenced by jazz. Jon Hiseman, Keef Hartely, Colin Allen, Ian Paice, Carl Palmer, Pete York, Blinky Davidson...all were listening to the American jazz greats, most notably Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Joe Morello, and the drummer with Duke Ellington and Count Basie. Keith Moon and Ginger Baker both decided to add a second bass drum after seeing Sam Woodyard with Duke Ellington.
However, despite hearing jazz drummers, BJ wasn't a jazzer. Much of his style came from playing snare drum in a boy's brigade marching band and playing R&B with the Paramounts, which included future Procol Harum bandmates Gary Brooker and Robin Trower (as well as Chris Copping, I believe).
- Procol Harum circa 1970, going by the name Liquorice John Death, did a straight-up rock 'n' roll album named 'Ain't Nothing to Get Excited About' wherein they cover classics from Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis etc.
- BJ was using playing paradiddle combinations on the cowbell in the late 60s (listen to 'Whisky Train') and a linear approach long before we heard similar from Steve Gadd.
- Wilson typically did not use a gong, so I was surprised to see one here. The gong idea, BTW, came from Carmine Appice, which is where Bonham got it (as well as his drum kit and some of his licks).
- Wilson is also heard on the soundtrack album for 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show' and in his post Procol career toured and recorded with Joe Cocker. He is also on 'Hurtsome Body' on the debut Leon Russell album, which includes an all-star lineup on a great records produced by Procol and Cocker producer Denny Cordell and engineered by Glyn Johns, whose credits include the debut Zeppelin album.
Despite speculation, the cause of BJ's death is still unclear. Music Industry insiders said he died after a lengthy period spent in a coma after an overdose of Tylenol.
- Barry 'BJ' Wilson was a unique and fabulous player and remains one of my absolute faves alongside Richie Hayward, Richard Bailey, David Garibaldi, Mitch Mitchell and the few others who brought something fresh, innovative and inspiring to the late 60s/early 70s rock scene.
Thank you for featuring him. I see from the comments that this episode has introduced many viewers to BJ and Procol. And now you know too!
Here is a killer track that exemplifies BJ and the band in the early/mid 70s. th-cam.com/video/GD0n01pj9fU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ProcolHarum-Topic
Barrie James Wilson is my ll-time favorite drummer. Has been for half a century. He loved Levon, Helm & even played mandolin because Levon did.
There are songs in which Bee Gees work is so moving, even when subtle, that it brings me to tears.
“About to Die”
“A Rum Tale”
Anything, really.
“A Souvenir of London” vid shows BJ on mandolin (it’s a video setup, but it shows PH’s humorous side).
BJ did not play on “A Whiter Shade of Pale.” That was session drummer Bill Eyden.
Broken Barricades is one of my favorite albums. I am a penniless Memphis musician who plays everything, including Cajón with a stomp box, on which I’ll let BJ be my guide.
Thank you ever so much for listening to and appreciating Procol Harum, and especially BJ.
Thank you for this great info!
Just watched this again Andrew. To twig your memory, you surely recall Whiter Shade of Pale which was Procol Harum's 10 million + seller back then. They were not one hit wonders and had many more gorgeous songs such as Salty Dog, Homburg, Whaling Stories (which is an absolute symphonic/poetic gem). They are as prolific as Beatles although did not get the support and publicity. All members of the band have now passed on, BJ in his early 40s, Gary just last year plus the rest so there must be an incredible jam going on in Heaven! Procol Harum preceded Led Zeppelin.
the wide open tuning , one of the best sounding kits I,ve heard.
Sounds great Larry!
In 1972, the Procol Harum album Procol Harum Live: In Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra and its hit single "Conquistador" became the first orchestral recording to achieve international platinum sales.
Procol Harum = best band ever; my absolute top band, even before the BEATLES (though they never got even 10 % as famous - they just avoided songs like "Yesterday" or "Obladi-Oblada"; they avoided middle-of-the-road schmaltz). You can buy all their first eight records until (incl.) "Exotic Birds & Fruit" - they are all great! B. J. Wilson = drummer extraordinary! Barry added another creative and illustrative dimension to any PROCOL HARUM song! Nott just a rock drummer guiding the band through any tune - he was a true originator; he was a composer of magical drum tracks. So go out and get yourself all those records - and enjoy hours of rock delicatessen!
Drummer with the Paramounts mid60s then into Procol Harum from 67, though he did not play on A Whiter Shade of Pale (now you MUST have heard of Procol Harum). BJ played on the session of Joe Cocker's With a Little Help from my Friends, after another famous drummer failed in a session the previous day. Best work with Procol- -Grand Hotel and Live at Edmonton albums for starters! Died young in the U.S. after a coma for a couple of years. Admired as a drummer and as a friend by Bob Siebenburg. Finally this track was written to highlight BJ - Power Failure, so the drummer had to take over on his own. The nickname "Octopus in a Bathtub" came from a journalist doing a review.
I'm not a drummer I'm a keyboardist but I found this video very interesting! I have heard of procul harum as I'm 73 years old so that I am acquainted with the 60s as! But as to B J. Wilson he certainly had a different stance as to his approach to the drums! This was a great video and the commentary was very knowledgeable and appreciated! Thanks, and I'll be waiting for your next video!
Another new band for me. Another new drummer for me.
WOW!
Surely not, whiter shade of pale enormous hit based on Bach
Best band ever.
@@jeffreybooth5129 Bach, absolutely
I saw Procol Harum many times since 1970. Sadly their leader Gary Brooker died in 2022. However, BJ Wilson was very faithful to the band through the 70’s until they disbanded in 77. It was hard to watch a concert without taking your eyes off of BJ and his amazing drumming. Jimmy Page and BJ are featured on Joe Cocker’s “With a little help from my friends “. Legend has it that bringing BJ in cemented that track after earlier attempts with other drummers. He was a great instrumentalist and is sorely missed.
Been a fan of BJ since 1967. Best UK drummer ever but of course that is opinion. I describe him as being an "orchestral drummer" as in he actually leads the band even though Gary Brooker has always been the leader of Procol Harum. There is a rare recording with him on Whiter Shade of Pale where he leads the band thru a different timing of the the original song and it is beautiful. Salty Dog albumn is by far is best drumming I think. Sad day when he died, what a wasted talent to drugs and alcohol
Is that the later, stereo version of WSOP?
Recommended for further listening: "Fires (Which Burnt Brightly)" from GRAND HOTEL.
Saw them in this mid-70's period. Insanely great band and BJ drove them like a madman. Amazing!!
Couldn't agree more!
Their massive international hit, “A Whiter Shade of Pale”. Live with Danish Symphony Orchestra is essential as was the 1967 original record. It’s required material for every living creature in this universe.
Glad you enjoyed that clip Andrew.
Definitely old school, (traditional grip, cowbell...).
I didn't realize B.J. was so jazz influenced.
A lot of that generation were.
Charlie Watts, (The Rolling Stones), Mick Avory, (The Kinks), Giger Baker, (Cream), and John Densmore (The Doors) were all jazz drummers before becoming rock drummers.
...and Mitch (John) Mitchell of the JH Exp.
For the most part all the British drummers of note were jazz-influenced or inspired because that was the only music they got to hear where drummers were features. Converesely, someone like Ringo was influenced by American R&B and rock 'n' roll...but then he was more groover that 'drummer' in the sense of chops and solos.
Interesting that BJ's paradiddle cowbell action would have come from his time in the boy's brigade band where he played marching snare drum. He would have been one of the few to actually have rudimental training, thus the confusion with him being a 'jazz' player. By contrast, Carl Palmer, Mitch Mitchell and Jon Hiseman were jazzers.
Remarkable drummer he was one of my favorites.
Absolutely BJ was influenced by jazz and has a jazz style. In fact, he wanted to play in a jazz band. His style is very reminiscent of Joe Morello (who played with the Dave Brubeck Quartet) and who, in turn, was influenced by Art Blakey.
saw them live in 70s - these were some of best shows I've ever seen. Just mesmerizing. bj, along with Mitch Mitchell and John Densmore, were among my favorite drummers.
The one Procul Harum song you’ve likely heard is “Whiter Shade of Pale”. (It’s the only song I’d heard before today.)
Ahhhhh right
First single sells 10 million 🤔🤔but Bill Eyden was the drummer for that song….B.J. replaced Bill.
@@cheneyrobert Yes, Bill Eyden (of Georgie Fame's band, where he either preceded or took over from Mitch Mitchell) is on 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' though he did that as a session; he was not a member of the band. The band's drummer, Bobby Harrison, missed the session, thus Eyden. Harrison later recorded it but his version was rejected. As a result he was denied royalites when the tune was a hit, so he quit, as did guitarist Ray Royer. Wilson and Robin Trower, former bandmates of singer/pianist Gary Brooker in the Paramounts, a band managed by Brian Epstein and whose only notable record, a cover of 'Poison Ivy', was produced by George Martin.
Please listen also to a salty dog. So great.
Really enjoyed this one Andrew!
Anyone over 50 knows Procol Harem, A Whiter Shade of Pale was their most famous tune. There is a wonderful version live in Holland but it's not the drummers delight you may expect but still a terrific performance. Sadly we just lost Gary Brooker not too long ago, the voice of the band...RIP Gary
Must admit that I am only familiar with Whitter Shade of Pale. Damon Che, from the Math Rock band Don Cabellero, also has an od set up with a low seat. Don Cab is sort of a poor man's King Krimson. Speaking of King Crimson, have you done any reviews of them? Particularly during the Trak/Vroom era when they had two drummers (Bill Bruford and Pat Masteleotto)?
Drummed with The Paramounts, then Procol Harum (though not on the 10m selling single A Whiter Shade of Pale). Procol broke up 1977, Bj went off with Joe Cocker for a few years (having played on Joe's hit single With a Little Help...) He played the entire recording session on the album of the musical Rocky Horror Picture Show (as did guitarist Mick Grabham from Procol). Sadly died 1990 in the USA after a few years in a coma. Played on all their first era albums..... and on Gary Brookers's third solo album..... Procol reformed in 1990 andfinally dispanded with the death of Gary Brooker in 2022. BTW I saw them live more than 30 times. BJ's best recorded work - Grand Hotel and Live at Edmonton... and of course that clip you have here!
They were on the go before Zeppelin. Also featured Robin Trower on guitar, who left before this gig. This song was from the Broken Barricades album with Trower and Wilson at their best. It's one of the all time great rock albums from a uniquely British band.
One of the best drummers I've ever seen. He's in Barlow's league...
If you are a drummer you have to explore some Procol Harum. B J is my favorite drummer and I am not even a big Procol Harum fan.
His snare is level with his nips! I would shatter my elbow on that kit! What a beast.
You'll undoubtedly realize you're familiar w/some PH pieces. In many BJ Wilson underplays. He's always serving the piece. Maybe a couple come to my mind; "Broken Barricades" (studio or if there's a live version before he died in '90), "Unquiet Zone", "TV's Caesar"; gosh more are coming to me! So much on the Grand Hotel, Exotic Birds and Fruit, and Salty Dog albums!
I'm 49, and I knew who procal harem were when I was about 14. Watching TOTP oldies...AWSOP from 67. BJ Wilson was a natural, with amazing rhythm holds the left hand back and joins in the fills late, but is in perfect time.
Saw them live at the Hollywood Bowl with LA Philharmonic along with choir, have almost their entire album (all vinyl) collection. BJ is buried just a few miles from where I live even. Learned that only about 15 years ago.
They did full orchestra shows Rarely. First was in Canada with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra and BJ used truck mirrors to see the conductor.
BJ could do his own syncopation between his left and right arms, knew when to add drama by bits of silence. Vastly underrated.
The band itself debuted with the song Whiter Shade Of Pale which was a number one hit and then largely slid under the radar with the tune Conquistador from the Edmonton gig putting them back on the airwaves briefly. Their catalog is extensive with odd pieces, great rocking tunes, intense prog rock flashes, R&B. Difficult to categorize….
Band leader Gary Brooker (piano and vocals) wrote most of the music and a lyricist Kieth Reed wrote words he would send to Gary that would then be fit into music he had been working on. Very unique band. Kieth’s lyrics are indescribable some views of deep introspection, topical observations, and at times macabre.
Aside from their debut WSOP they were largely unknown but if you bought their first album, its depth hooked you for life….
Anytime you hear a song titles Something Followed Me and hear it refers to my own tombstone…..
BJ was VASTLY UNDERRATED.
As mentioned above BJ played drums on Joe Cocker’s debut, “With A Little Help From My Friends” (quintessential BJ !!).
Like Moon, BJ liked to wander into the melody. Another good example is this live version of Conquistador: th-cam.com/video/VbF_G0XFTK4/w-d-xo.html (1973).
BJ was tall & lanky and at 6 ft. (1.83m) tall it explains how he had such great arm reach while sitting so low on his throne (thus “The Octopus in the Bathtub”).
I know Procol Harum. John Lennon once said "A Whiter Shade of Pale", even my dog has heard that one, was the favorite song of the 60's. Robin Trower [Bridge of Sighs], guitarist, was also an original member until he went solo. This particular song is on the "Broken Barricades" album. "Simple Sister" is my favorite one off that album.
Smokin' hot.
*That's what she said.*
I can't say more.
Queen were heavily influenced by Procol Harum, Queen a more simpler less progressive version. Both seamlessly meshing classical music with rock and pop music. Gary Brooker composed all the arrangements Brian May has played with Procol often as a tribute, also Queens drummer Roger, has played on their albums - Well's On Fire - Shadow Boxed. Procol do not get enough recognition, as they have done some amazing music other that White Shade Of Pale..
Procol Harum is the best band ever. Whiter Shad of Pale is the most peoples favorite song. Robin Trower and B J are the best virtuosos.
Procol Harum had one of the greatest British invasion singles, "Whiter Shade of Pale"- over 10 million copies sold. Had the good fortune to see them live, and, yes, BJ Tomas stood out. Quite impressive.
You mean BJ Wilson ?😊
Well hello! Since Jimmy Page tried to recruit BJ at the formation of LZ, then obviously PH existed before LZ. Totally different rock genres: PH was symphonic, gorgeous, poetic rock with a sometimes hard edge (simple sister) while LZ was totally bombastic Bonham pounding and not so subtle. BJ existed in the Bach world of subtle musicians plus was a beautiful humble human! LOVE!
Great point. One wonders how B. J. would've influenced LZ...and he would have!
Listen to "Power Failure" on their "Broken Barricades" album where BJ includes some amazing cowbell that he didn't play in your video.
Was familiar with them in the 70s, but i never heard that song, and until now... was not aware of that drummer!!
Me neither Paul! WOW
Parabéns pelo excelente formato de debate. O melhor até o momento.
Provolone Harum we’re a major part of the explosion of great bands and musicians in the late 60s. Their sound was very different though. The classical tone and Kieth Reid lyrics set them apart, and IMHO, above many of the bands then. I liked the early albums with Trower and Fischer the best but regardless of personnel Brooker maintained a tight sound and was always true to the play book.
I saw them at the Fillmore West once. Santana was on the bill too
I saw them open for Jethro Tull……B.J. was reportedly offered the drums by the Who after Keith passed away…..the group is named after a Burmese cat…🤔🤔🤔😂🤣great trip down memory lane 👏👏👏🥂
“Whiter Shade of Pale” is everywhere. Great song.
Yup I realised afterward it was them!
I always thought the drum fills in Whiter Shade of Pale were pretty good (I was around when it was released !) but I didn't know the drummer was THAT good. Octopus in the bath tub....good description 😂
B.J. Wilson didn't play on that one - the drummer for "A Whiter Shade of Pale" was Bobby Harrison, a session drummer brought in for that famous recording. B.J. was brought in (to rejoin his old mates Gary Brooker and Robin Trower from a previous band called The Paramounts) once it was apparent that Procol Harum had a massive hit on their hands, and they needed a touring line-up to promote the single, as well as new material slated for their first album.
@@henryptak1726 Thanks for the info
Everyone I've ever known who says "I've never heard of this band", I say "Yes you do, go listen to 'A Whiter Shade Of Pale', and they come back and say, 'Oh, THEM!'"
(Even though B.J. doesn't play on that song).
Funny that you mentioned Buddy Rich. When asked if there were any rock drummers he liked on a TV show he replied “ BJ something …” and the audience shouted “ Wilson”. He was voted best drummer in several polls back in the early 70s when Procol were fairly popular . Page has said of him , “ nobody can touch BJ Wilson “.
Buddy said Carl Palmer was the best young drummer, too. Palmer and Wilson are my two favorite drummers with Ginger Baker a close third.
Salty Dog, and Souvenir from London were my favorite Songs!!!!!
A Whiter Shade Of Pale was their classic track, also Conquistador (gotta be the live version)...if you listen to those two tracks you'll be up to speed on these guys.
You may kmow their monster hit, "A Whiter Shade of Pale."
Oh I didn’t realise that was them
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Try Conquistador live with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra. It's a great live recording of a great song.
Procol did have a few killer songs but BJ Wilson's great talent was a bit wasted on them. Listen to him on the 1971 live recording of A Salty Dog. Really gorgeous drumming. I saw them. Iive in the mid 70s. He was tons of fun to watch because they would have him set up sideways to the stage.
Never heard of these guys before... but Wow ...
Robon Trower was the original guitar player
Check out Procol Harum Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony and the Da Camera Singers 1971. They came out in 1962 with Whiter Shade of Pale. Poetry, Rock, symphonics. Predate Led Zep.
*1967
Holy shit. I had no idea their drummer was that good. He's like buttah. I got a fevah, and the only prescripition...is more cowbell. Lordy, this guy has to be in the top 10. Odd technique but he's a beast anyway. I think I have to get this album also. Reminds me of Keith Moon but is much better than him. So I have heard them many times but mostly on FM. The common stuff like "Whiter Shade of Pale." I do have a record of theirs but haven't played it in years. Also have with symphony concert CD which is of course very good. But this music is epic. I strongly suspect they are not as widely known as Zeppelin for instance.
Awesome stuff Scott. Fascinating vid right!
Vastly underrated here in UK ,the best band ever in my opinion,check out more you won't regret it I promise you.
@@jeffreybooth5129 Absolutely, thanks
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Yes sir!
“The Idol.”
@5:25.........Mr. Wilson even had to itch his nose in a poly-rhythmic state...He snuck it in there seamlessly......lol
I noticed that....hahahahha
I for one have never heard of this dude, and out of all my years of drumming, I now feel stupid. Lol
The early rock drummers had to be influenced by jazz drummers and style, because there really wasn’t anything else to be influenced by back then. 😎
Yup! You got it
BJ = none can compare - so subtle, inventive, totally creative genius! Bonham and others are pounders in comparison. Amazing that Procol Harum was comprised of the best of the best including Robin Trower for a few years, Chris, Matthew and best rock/opera voice ever, Gary Brooker. Remember when Whiter Shade of Pale came out, John Lennon played it in his car and asked his chauffeur what he thought!? Peter Frampton said WSOP is best rock song of all time in Rick Beato interview. Rick never did review or comment on Procol Harum. No idea why since was one of the most creatively diverse amazing bands ever.
Subtle I dunno, but the rest is spot on. Maybe it’s subtle technically, but BJ hit very hard.
Cow Bell was a standard feature at this time I believe
Yup!
‘A Whiter Shade of Pale’ is the only song I remember.
Gong= common part of Drum kit in the 70s. Even Peter Criss had one in KISS 😉
Right on
Also under ground band from canterbury in the early 70's, this features two of Gongs main players th-cam.com/video/whYnCEsptxM/w-d-xo.html
A Whiter Shade Of Pale does not have B.J. on drums but Bobby Harrison, B.J. would have given a much more interesting performance to it; just listen to A Salty Dog and you'll hear what I'm takling about
Wow 🤩
Procol Harum was a bigger deal I think in the UK than the USA -- but they produced a number of really good records beginning circa 1967 and into the late 1970's. Pianist Gary Brooker continued with reformations of the band into the mid-2010's. Robin Trower was their guitarist until circa 1972/73 when he went solo. They were a rock-pop band but had a bit of a progressive tilt to their stuff, especially as the early 70's hit and on albums Broken Barricades (Trower's last with them, includes Power Failure), and 1973's Grand Hotel, the first after Trower left.
I see I’m pretty late in the replies. I guess Andrew, it says you posted maybe 18+ hours ago. It’s 5-29-23 /2am CA time. Many have already shared for you what came to mind. Procol Harem was pretty well known here in the states. Yet, I know there were many of our American bands who were so much more widely received in England/Europe 1st. Then, they came back to the states, and took off. Not always though. I do believe Chicago had a similar experience when Terry Kath guitarist, writer, etc. (he could play other instruments too) was with the band. I read not too long ago more about Terry’s background. Had he not died early, they maintain, he was one of the best guitarists ever. Had he lived longer, he might have made an even greater impact. Anyway, I didn’t know until I was in 18 or 19, and I’d been playing the drums since I was 15, I always thought “Whiter Shade of Pale” was something that Lynyrd Skynyrd had done. Or, perhaps even “The Allman Brothers”. I was 18 in 1980. So, here I was playing the drums; I totally missed that entirely. Until, my drum teacher kindly educated me. I was talking to him about a solo from Free Bird. Somehow, it lead to other songs. In which I made mention of this cool song (Whiter Shade of Pale) mind you, had been recorded what in 67’. 13 years earlier. Man, was I way off then. Not only, not a southern US rock band but, this great band from England. I then saw how much I was missing. Anyway, great clip of them playing. And yes, very low seating for even me. At, 5’3”, I always have had a lower seating set up. Yet, his was a low rider. Thanks and I guess the cowbell comments may be in relation to our friend El Estepario’s tunes. I have to say, I love hearing the cow bell. Ciao…..
Actually, BJ would have been in Led Zep had he not chosen to stay with Procol. He's signature is all over the the first 10 albums that Procol Harum did. He was not just a time keeper.
“A Whiter Shade of Pale” (from the 60’s) Andrew? That was their ONE and ONLY popular hit. Robyn Trower was their original guitarist. Anywho, “Power Failure” is a track from “Broken Barricades” album. I have been a fan since I hear the album “A Salty Dog” which is considered a classic. I STRONGLY recommend you take a day off and listen to Procol’s entire discography.
Fun Fact 😊, One of BJ’s favourite drummers was Levon Helm. IMHO, if you listen to “The Band”, you can hear similarities. Levon’s impeccable sense of time and rhythm (even while singing lead!) are reminiscent of BJ at times.
When you mentioned Vinnie, I detected some similarities with his solo’s, fills, that remind me of BJ Wilson.
I only just got your channel popping up in my TH-cam feed. Thank you for venturing to the “dark side” with this band. The band had a sixth “founding” member, namely Keith Reid. He and Gary Brooker wrote most of the material. Keith Reid’s favourite topic seems to be “death”. This is most apparent on the album “Home”.
It is fun writing about this. I was so grateful to have been born in 1949. As a “different/difficult” teenager in the sixties, I took refuge in the music of Procol Harum, Traffic, The Who, The Small Faces (Steve Marriott era), Spooky Tooth.
Thanks for your channel, Andrew.
Procol Harum had a 6 week No 1 hit with A Whiter Shade of Pale in the summer of 1967. I don’t believe they did ANYTHING wrong. But they were more beloved perhaps in the States of USA. BJ WILSON was a joy to watch live. I half thought of him as a male ballerina when watching him drumming live at gigs. He was a very special Percussionist.
Keith Moon had a big gong.🤣
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I think Procol Harem was more of a British thing than an American thing… great reaction, Andrew. Bring on the 1970’s! So much rich music. Thanks!
Not at all, us in the USA loved the band right out of the gate. Whiter Shade of Pale is played every summer across the country. It took on a summer cult status as soon as it debuted and it still goes on to this day...
@@oldguyespo640 Thanks, old guy Espo. I stand (sit!) corrected. Yes I remember Whiter Shade of Pale but in my time frame (62 yrs old) and location (Atlanta), that was about it, as far as air play, etc. went for Procol Harem.
The states are so big; regionally we have different experiences of how the music went down.
@@helenlig323 True, the south had a hard time with the SINFUL ROCK and ROLL. They loved their country music which now has become the bastion for R&R, since Rap and Hip Hop has pretty much taken over the airwaves. It's funny how things change...
@@oldguyespo640 ...although, as a point of pride (!), the Atlanta I was in (people and neighborhood) and still reside, was always more urban than all that. We'd always say there's Atlanta, and then there's The South. We never listened to country music, for example...
No they were bigger in the states than UK and for we British fans were annoyed they spent more time in the states,.They were so underrated it's unbelievable personally they are my favourite band of all time.
Thanks so much Andrew. BJ's recognition is long overdue. I think you'll also like a live version of this track "Repent Walpurgis" that I am attaching. Could have been from the same time frame. I was struck by his use of ghost notes in the intro.th-cam.com/video/wQC7Kk4WOPU/w-d-xo.html
Music by Johann Sebastian Amadeus Mozart?
The manner in the '70s (especially if you had a B.J. Wilson in your line-up) was to have some sort of obligatory live showcase for virtually any band that had a great drummer. It in fact became such a cliche, that some great bands had some fun with it. The live version of "So Sincere" by Gentle Giant has a segment where the entire band takes a drum solo (which includes some "tinkly" high tuned percussion in the middle and then morphs into a tribal groove to finish out). The joke, of course, with Gentle Giant was that their music was extremely arranged, and that therefore, the drum solo should logically also be "all for one, and one for all" - definitely worth a look. th-cam.com/video/pIaG8a9ACYY/w-d-xo.html
Procol Harum with Orchestra and Choir in Denmark, Watch for an anvil used as a percussion device, th-cam.com/video/lRBXy_UzLss/w-d-xo.html
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@@AndrewRooneyDrums Procol Harum had their mega hit "Whiter Shade of Pale" back in 1967 (or there abouts). Gary Brooker, their piano player and lead vocalist died in 2022. He was a great talent. He composed all the music for the orchestra and choir. By chance, not knowing they were still around, I got to see them in 2019 in concert on Long Island, New York. The whole concert from Denmark is available on TH-cam. Here is another song I thought you might like from that concert. Two fellas from the orchestra provide drumming assistance at the beginning. th-cam.com/video/2IvbunWoysI/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewRooneyDrums While I remember. If you haven't checked out this band, here is your chance. The band is The Hu. They are from Mongolia. This is a well-produced video of their song Wolf Totem. It includes some traditional instruments and throat singing. You may wish to share this with your subscribers. th-cam.com/video/2oSuIEKbQNw/w-d-xo.html
Listen to "A Whiter Shade of Pale"....1967. Procol Harum was the original group to release the song, BUT it has been done a million times by other groups. Probably their claim to fame!!
Speaking of 70s bands, check out Truth and Janey. Fantastic if somewhat obscure prototypical '70s hard rock band. Only a couple albums, but you can't go wrong with anything off of: No rest for the wicked. Check it out 😉
Thanks Paul!
B. J. Wilson lacked the big name but was widely respected. Urban legend has it that he turned down the drum seat in Led Zepplin before John Bonham. Unfortunately drugs and lifestyle took him way too early. Most people just know Whiter Shade of Pale but Procol Harum defied definition but put out many great albums over the years.
Yes Don. That was mentioned on the intro. I wonder how he feels about that!?
They certainly had many great albums my all time favourite band.
Not an urban legend. It's in LZ's biography! Page and Plant have had decades to dismiss it.
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Looks like he’s gonna headbutt the snare at a few moments
HA yes Steven
Never heard of Procol Harum. A Whiter Shade of Pale, Conquistador?
Yes whiter shade of pale!
I saw procol harum here in the United States in 1993. They were the opening act for the Jethro Tull 25th anniversary tour. They were actually better than Jethro Tull. What I'm not sure of is if this guy was still there drummer at the time I saw them.
You would likely have seen Mark Brzezicki on the drums. He came from the band Big Country.
Procol Harum evolved from the Paramounts, an R&B group. Keith Reid was a lyricist who wrote poetic words. Gary Brooker wrote the music. Originally, Robin Trower was their early guitarist with a blues background. Matthew Fisher was a bassist, then organist who wrote music and produced songs. A Whiter Shade of Pale was their opening #1 hit with Matthew’s magnificent organ. I think of BJ as a percussionist, rather than a drummer. Besides hard rockers, BJ could create delicate percussion for their baroque, classically influenced songs.
Ey Andrew can you make one video new Foo Figthers drummer? i always like punch Joss Freese. Thanks
I've done a few on him!
He's one of my faves
Maybe do some Don Caballero? The other extreme of snare position and seat height. Bj was very unique