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Italian liner Principessa Jolanda sinks during launch because of defective ballasting and errors in calculations.Moreover many portholes were left open,and a donkey boiler exploded for the flood.The sistership Principessa Mafalda was launched two years later after extensive reduction in height.She was lost in 1927 for she lost port tailshaft in mid-ocean and successive flood could not be stopped.
The wreckage of Jolanda was scrapped,engines salvaged were reutilised.Music is "Sunday",Jean Goldkette orchestra 1927,Bix Beiderbecke on cornet - บันเทิง
Aquitania: I lasted 46 years
Olympic: I only lasted 34!
Lusitania: I only had 8!
Andrea Doria: All I got was 3!
Titanic: I served for only 5 days!
Principessa Jolanda: You guys had careers?
Ladies and gentlemen: from the portside, you'll see the old Italian navy. On the starboard side, you see the beautiful Italian sky.
artman40 haha
That is horrible! And hilarious...
Rofl
LOL!!
dannazione.. ma è divertente lo ammetto
Obviosly her first Captain was Francesco Schettino's grandfather.
XD
So the captain of the Andrea Doria was his father?
Zachary Legaspi Not quite. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Schettino
+Deevo037 He problably bailed before hitting the water.
I blame his long lost grandfather, Mussolini
Principessa Jolanda had a sister ship (Principessa Mafalda) which was being built at the same site when Jolanda's mishap happened. They launched Mafalda with uncomplete superstructures to avoid similar failure.
Sadly, the Mafalda also sank on October 25.1927 some 80 miles off Salvador do Bahia, Brazil, due to a catastrophic propeller shaft failure that damaged the hull. 314 out of 1252 died in this accident-the deadliest ever in Italian shipping-causing Mafalda to be dubbed the Italian Titanic.
And you thought the Titanic's career at sea was short!
i was going to say that lol =3
Titanic was able to stay more or less upright even while she was sinking. This ship however can't even stay upright when she's not sinking, and then sinks because of it.
The S.S. Minnow lasted longer than this.
Well technically this thing never even got to start a career at sea!
lol
The designer hadn't accounted for the flags and bunting...
In the history of ocean liners from the late 1800s to the 1970s it seems there so many near misses, miscalculations, and outright disasters. Yet from an aesthetic viewpoint they were often beautiful and graceful and their interiors showed the best art and design of the countries that created them.
This is a case where the designer did not keep track with the manufacturer regarding the Centre of Gravity position due to the weight of the superstructure. If when a ship heals, the centre of buoyancy does not move out faster than the centre of gravity, the ship will be unstable. If all doors above the gunwale/deck were shut, that boat would still have floated at an incline to one side. So unfortunate that such elegant ships are lost because of such a minor misunderstanding of the basic principles of stability.
I do not like this type of launching as when the high lift transom floats, the vessel would be held by the bows ( narrow) and the rear narrow end, and the maximum width which keep it upright is still out of the water offer no displacement, so at that position the vessel is liable to incline. If the sliding is fast enough and the stability factor good enough, the vessel will righten itself. If not, over she goes. Perhaps, ballasting any vessel before launching will give it a chance to live and then if all is well unballast it to that point where stability is favourable. Obviously the best issue is to design wisely before making the pretty stuff.
Carmel Pule' I think you mean ‘when a ship heels’....that ship certainly didn’t recover!
Once again, a burger flipper critiquing a nautical engineer. This is very common with new ships not built in a drydock. In a drydock they can be fueled, watered and ballasted. With this method of launching this must be done after launch or it would be too heavy to slide down the ways. After the launch they can only be hauled in a drydock because they are too heavy
rbodell idiot
another burger flipper maybe?
Aren't you a clever thing with all your knowledge of ship's HEALS 😂😂😂😂😂😂. What type of HEALS did this ship have then? Cuban? Kitten? Stilletto??? Nonce.
Maybe those portholes below the waterline for the passengers to watch fish weren't such a good idea!
What if it was hit by a-
**My Heart Will Go On plays**
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Well,it's easy to laugh,now. in those times however the whole business was a national tragedy. This is the only mishap in a shipyard which is still building ships now,as Fincantieri Riva Trigoso
Hi
First comment after 11 years lol
The same thing happened to the Swedish warship Vasa in1628. They put two rows of cannons on it. Which made it top heavy. It got a little over 1,000 meters out and rolled over and sank.
You'd think someone in the design phase would have picked up on that mistake while it was still on paper.
The story I once read was that the IOLANDA had been 'overly greased' on the ways so that, when she was launched, she slid down like a greased pig, way too fast, and that caused the instability which capsized her.
The captain was the great great grandfather of Francesco Schettino...
Stolen joke
Un stonks, uses same joke as somebody else in same comment section
Luigi : " Hey Mario .... Wassa matta you ? "
Mario : " Wassa matta you ? .... Wassa matta me ! "
Luigi's wife : " Luigi ! Youssa stupidio ! Youssa no put da draina plugga in da boata ! "
Mario : " Mamma mia ..... Issa ok Luigi ! Weesa canna go drinka da wine now ! "
Cretin.
An old Italian Passenger ship tradition that lives on in The Costa Concordia whose Captain was one of the first ashore after he had run across the rocks needed to sink his particular Italian passenger ship.
Listening to this music inspired me to download the whole blasted album from Amazon! I told my elderly mother about it and her reply was, "HOW can you STAND to listen to that TINNY 1920's music?!
Owners: 🤦♂️
Bystanders: 😂
People who launched the damn thing: 😓
I don't why but I like the music.
That's because it's good!
It's because it's acctialy good music!
David Kazman I expect K Stone Cops driving in cyrcles in a silent movie with sinking of ship . lol Hope no one was hurt.
Happy 20's ,flappers ,jitter bugs and the Gay Old Twenties. . Great music .to bad 1929 was around the corner and this sinking too bad so sad. Gone but we remember . Thanks
Kevin Pierce It's so annoying...
The people who built this ship: years of academy training wasted
Learned about this launch many years ago, but I hadn't seen some of these pics before.
Thanks for uploading!!
Does she still hold the world record for the ship that lasted the least?
manuel Gamboa I honestly don't know ;)
I’m guessing the Titanic is second place.
No even close. This one lasted less than a minute. th-cam.com/video/N6TYQZd0HPs/w-d-xo.html
@John Smith name is Vasa.
There's a museum holding her in Stockholm.
I think she holds the record for the longest floating Italian made object ever😁
I remember seeing this video back when I was 3 or 4 years old. Love it still.
@annanoli I recall they had to flood Imperator's double bottom with cement to get her to stay upright. Someone once calculated, I don't remember where, that if we still built modern passenger vessels using the same materials as 100 years ago, most of them couldn't take a 10-foot wave without rolling over.
Odd to think that those tall, fat ships we have nowadays handle so much better than the sleek-looking liners back then.
I mean, they certainly wouldn't handle waves like the QM2 do.
@thetitanicisdead Thanks! the song is "Sunday",by Jean Goldkette orchestra,Bix Beiderbecke on cornet. The ship built in Riva Trigoso,Italy,was part of a class of two,Principessa Jolanda and Mafalda,names of royal princessess.Gross tonnage 10.000,speed 18,designed for South America line.Jolanda was scrapped after the accident. Mafalda sank in 1927 in mid Atlantic with heavy loss of life.
I recently read it wasn't due to incompetence or faulty design.The slipway partly collapsed,leaving her with a severe list as she slid into the water.
Great to find this, I remember these photos from an old book my Grandad had, and have always been keen to find out a little more about this failed launch. Thanks to Google and YT I have the answers at last. Thanks for posting.
And that's a lesson learned: Always never launch a boat with the details on it, leave it without a bridge first and NO funnels.
Or just make it light weight as possible
I don't think it was common at the time to launch ships that were 100% complete. Maybe in Italy, but I know the British Olympic-class liners had to be fitted-out after launch, and that included installing the masts and the funnels.
+heelfan1234 you should also leave it to the British to sink great ships like the Lusitania and break war laws....
Superior Vigil What are you talking about??? The Germans sank the Lusitania by Torpedo from a U Boat. Do you know any history at all?
heelfan1234 why yes i do look up the lusitania and how the British basically put amo on her when they shouldnt have because thats breaking war laws which made the Lusitania a target im just saying the Germans arent just at fault Americans too
Superior Vigil It is in total dispute what was on board the ship; the U boat did not know, but what was certain was that there were hundreds of women and children civilians.
It was enshrined in convention that warning should be given so lifeboats could be launched before sinking a ship with vulnerable civilians
There have been plenty of examples of British malpractice, but I'm afraid you chose a very poor and inadmissible one, according to historians on both sides of the first world war divide.
More research needed I think, if you are to come up with cogent arguments ;)
+Superior Vigil yea but even if it didn't have the ammo it still might have sank
Annanoli, I recently discovered that my grade school music teacher, Pasquale Cirrecillo, was a close friend of Bix's and was his next door neighbor at the Broadway Hotel. Pasquale owned a piano and let Bix use it whenever he wanted to. The piano is now in a museum in New York State. Cirrecillo owned it until he died in 1981.
"Aww, it's-a so close! Maybe next-a time we are gonna get it-a right!"
Being Italian built, just like they cars, as soon it touch the water it rusted and sank strait way . Say no more !
And the hand break ( parking break ) only worked on one side, that's why it tipped over !
+riotagus Thanks for clearing that up for us. :)
you know nothing about cars that's for sure.and you never had italian car thats more sure.so yea,speak what ever you listen mr papagalo:-)
?????????????? Sorry mate, i don't understand it, that's all Greek to me !
In English please .
+riotagus learn some more Greek then..your language uses already more than 2000 Greek words:-)
“Ship sinks at launch in 1907”
*let’s play a song from 1926 to go along with this video*
Although In fairness recordings from 1907 are Very hard to come by.
Manhattan Transfer,the famous vocal quartet,recorded the chorus of this song imitating the original
I love the music. Fits perfectly.
@tamenga88 To make things clear,the project engineer did not committed suicide. It was the sistership's Chief Engineer who shot himself during the sinking in 1927. This because he knew the situation of the port engine but he decided to sail anyhow
Well done - thanks for posting
They got real smaart when the built her sister; launched her and THEN fitted her out, as is done with all large ships. Even battleships were launched without their gun turrets. A ship designed with 35,000 ton 'standard' displacement would be riding high in the water at launch. From a production standpoint this made sense; ships had to be built while inclined on the ways; this complicated all measurements. Far easier to complete the work while the vessel is on an 'even keel."
Lucky to get the sequence of pictures, just a pity no one had a phone to upload a movie.
ship: gets launched
also ship: 5 more minutes mommy
*rolls over*
This is probably the shortest time ship survived between launch and sinking- only 20 mins. Her sister ship- Principessa Mafalda also sank in 1927 and sometimes is called "Italian Titanic"
This video pales in comparision of the Italian Armed Forces in both World Wars; not to mention it switched sides to save itself.
Ignorant, you're an ignorant.
Can we just take a minute to say she was quite a beautiful ship
The song is "sunday" by Jean Goldkette orchestra,around 1923
At least their cars only leave you stranded on the side of the road.
Boat Axe don’t kid yourself about Italian cars. Lancia, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, all famous, all very expensive
Lincoln Paul And all unreliable, their fun when they run.
Lincoln Paul , All Italian (& French!) cars break down, regardless of cost !!
Somebody must had a lot of explaining to do...
Terrible tragedy! But, excellent photos which told a good story and superb music! Felt like you were really there. Great job!
Ya gotta be fair now, no one was hurt when this ship went over. Better record than that of her sister ship.
@gcmc2 Of course in an era when alloys were still to come, and with natural draft and subsequent funnel height the KG was particularly reduced. ss Imperator was well remembered for instability. As noted in the clip the sistership was heavily modified in order to keep on the safe side.
Bigger liners with particularly heavy power plant had to be completed at dock, just figure the weight of a boiler....
Love the music!
Thanks!
Probably the shortest career of any ship: Launched and at the bottom of the harbor a half hour later
My 15 month old daughter stopped what she was doing and started dancing when this music came on lol
And that's why you leave the ballast flood doors open so as not to cause free surface effect while the inside of the ship is full of water and making it top heavy with no lower weight force.
I remember this from one of my books. However, it was the Princess Iolanda. I was always going to name a boat that. So much for fact checking.
Same thing happened in Spain with a copy of the Sancta María for 1992 Olimpics.
Design Fault, Too high TOO narrow Cof G miles too high
Love the music. Wish it was still like that now.
WHAT!! How come I never heard of this.......I have the Floating Palaces series on VHS and have always been fascinated with ships...This is sad!...... Nice looking ship! Nice music here.
That is so damn sad, all that back breaking work gone in few minutes. I can't imagine being the engineer that caused this situation. If it was me I would probably run away to some island where no one would recognize me. LOL
I wonder if this was the inspiration for all those animated cartoons where a ship is launched, and it immediately sinks?
Lol
Nah you've just been watching too much Mickey Mouse ;-)
Beautiful Music!
I owned a FIAT - that acted much like this from the day it left the dealer - however the engine was beyond salvage.... Thats italian craftmanship 4U.
What a wonderful documentary you made, also may I ask the name of the song please? Thank you for posting this wonderful video, hope you make more on the ship, please respond, and thank you once again, Noah.
oh boy! that's Jean Goldkette band with no less than Bix Beiderbecke on cornet!!!
this music makes me think of all my "oops" moments
Art Lohr lol yeah who still listens to this?
@@joemancini327 me
I wondered why ships are launched without a superstructure (usually). Now I know why?
The music fits perfectly 👌👌👌
what is the background music and where can i find more of them? thanks
I love the music !
Every maritime nation had its own record of sinking and accidents at sea..no exception
Such nice music!
Great music.
Marvelous example of the very finest of Italiano nautical engineering. Huzzah !
@2ndOfficerCHL top heavy liners were quite a common problem of the day. german IMPERATOR was always listing p & s. in some cases they har to cut off funnel tops. just imagine at the end of a crossing,with coal bunkers almost empty as well as DB's
@annanoli She was an American ship that sank in 1915. She was built badly and spent 12 years of her life threatening to capsize until she finally did one day, at a dock on the Chicago River, as she was preparing to take people on a river cruise. 844 people drowned.
Before the sinking, she was sold to a new owner, and the previous owners posted a sarcastic newspaper ad offering a reward to anyone who could prove that she too top heavy to be sailing. Needless to say, no one took it seriously.
ship sinks at launch
you can't beat that for failure
One would have expected the Naval Architect to have been fully aware of any high centre of gravity issues with his design!
Suprising that the ballast couldn't have been trimmed to counter the initial listing before it becoming uncontained and doomed the vessel.
Bix is a local boy, from Davenport, Iowa...a jazz fest is an annual event as well as a run..
Principessa Jolanda (1907-1907) RIP
Her sister ship also faced many problems, before finally sinking herself!
Oops! Forgot to trim the ballast!
Really? They left the portholes open during the launch? They had a boiler running during the launch? There were people on board during the launch? Were the people who made and launched this ship just like "Fuck common sense, because YOLO."?
At least they learned their lesson with its sister ship.
Robert Defoe Which would meet her fate tragically remembered as the italian Titanic (not joking)
There has been worse incidents. Look up the "Sultana" (1865) and the "Eastland" (1915).
The ship was light,allright,they were probably afraid to have too much weight on the slip- The metacentric height was reduced as in all those ships,to stay on the safe side the sistership was modified in her upper decks. Notwithstanding this i think that with a proper ballasting the vessel wouldn't have taken that list,and nothing would happen
No,the shipyard is still in operation. the wreckage was removed very early,and the engines were fit on other ships
You're right indeed; however,being the title "SUNDAY" i found it appropriate for a jolly festive day.
@2ndOfficerCHL i don't think so...the GZ was too reduced,the ship took a list beyond recovery,the open portholes only speed up the sinking...what happened to SS Eastland?
American Navy: United States Ship, Royal Navy: His/Her Majestys Ship, Italian Navy: Attsa My Boat.
i completely agree!
Makes you wonder how they scrapped it when it was sunk
cool video
Great song
It's a shame she capsized, because she was a very pretty liner, despite her record short service
And she looked like such a lovely liner. What a shame :P
@ActiveWorldsLunitic aye aye sir. Of course this is the original,but Manhattan Transfer evidently sung a remake
@Fischer0Dude You got a point.
however that was the only tragical mishap of that yard which is still in operations now. a bad luck strike happens...at the time the accident was considered a national tragedy, and'i'm sure that nobody felt the whole affair as "silly".
The sistership was launced succesfully next year,with reduced height and correct ballasting.
I like the tom and jerry music
@annanoli Yep. Of course some ships are also launched without superstructure because they are built in undercover shipyards where the roofheights set the limit..
Should have hired a Viking engineer.
That ship was quite obviously wopped...er..warped!
Top tune to play to this Vid , This ships a sinking by Captain Scuttle and the 4 Boatswains on Brass.