I was an Engineer cadet on her 2 years prior and sailed the same route with the same cargo. Some of my College mates and shipmates perished with her. RIP all. Subsequent investigation has exonerated the crew as there is strong evidence of the fore hatch being lashed correctly and that the spare screw (mounted at the fore end starboard side) came loose during the descent and tore it off on its way past on its path to leaving the ship on the port side. Iron ore is very dense and I remember looking down during loading and being amazed at the amount of space there was left in the hold after loading. The hatches succumbed to the heavy seas leaving gaping holes and thousands of m3 of space to fill with water. The ship went down before a radio signal could be made, which demonstrates the stupidity of of any “survival” comments. If the Bridge watch-keeper (who would recognise what was happening and be the nearest person able to jump overboard) couldn’t survive, nobody could.
@@randomrazr It all happened in 2 minutes from start to finish. Try this exercise. Stand straight up, start a 2 minute timer. Start tipping your body forward, flail your arms about, buckle your knees a time or 5 until you can't stand upright. Might come close to mimicking how difficult it is to navigate the narrow hallways and stairclimbs within a multi story cargo ships bridge to get outside to the lifeboats while it's shimmying, shaking and going vertical-sideways-overboard. In less than 2 minutes.
@@randomrazr They wouldn't have had time. This occurred at night in very heavy seas. The officer on watch wouldn't have been able to see properly. You are taught that the ship is your best lifeboat. However, launching lifeboats is not a quick procedure, and you have to remember the lifeboats back then were not covered. Try to imagine jumping into a 25- 30 for boat with no cover, and a miserable little diesel engine at best, and sailing in seas of 60 feet waves. The poor souls had no chance whatsoever
Jesus, so from the failure of the foremost hold-cover to the entire ship sinking beneath the waves was nearly shown in REAL TIME in this animation. There's no surviving that.
I cant imagine how terrifying that must be, a ship silently fills with water. Next thing you know the whole thing starts to slip under. I cant imagine how those sailors were feeling.
It would have been incredibly horrifying. They would have heard and felt the hatch covers going . From there it’s really unimaginable what they experienced
It's actually thought she sunk in seconds, not minutes. When she sunk, she was carrying iron ore. Because the density of it, some of her tanks were completely empty or had very little ore in them (because if all were full, she couldn't float at all because too much weight.). That's why so much water was able to get in. Either way, the crew was probably still asleep when she started to sink, and even with the 2 minute estimate no one could have ever survived. Scary stuff.
I sailed on one of the sister ships to the Derbyshire. The MV Sir Alexander Glen. We passed over the last known location of the Derbyshire pretty much a year later. Carrying iron ore, and in very rough conditions, though not quite as severe as the Derbyshire, there wasn't too many atheists on board. We were all aware of cracks at beam 65 - just forward of the accommodation structure. Was very glad to get off her in Japan. I can only imagine what was going through the minds of the poor souls on the Derbyshire. RIP
It’s like a domino effect. One hold collapses, then the next, then the other 7 one by one until the stern separates from the ship because of implosions in each of the 9 holds. May the ones who died in this tragedy Rest In Piece.
I sailed on a sister ship to Derbyshire - the Tyne Bridge - a ship that I saw launched in 1970 at Haverton hill in Middlesbrough. This was my third trip to sea and I was 20 years old. I spent the rest of my working life working on merchant ships, mostly large oil tankers. In those 40 years I never saw a ship so badly constructed, poorly maintained and cack handedly operated as that Tyne Bridge. I have the wisdom and experience to realize now that that I was lucky to survive that trip.
A lot of bulkers those days were in poor condition, especially those flagged to registries less reputable to say the least. Was never aware just how badly affected bulk carriers were during the 1980s and 1990s until reading "Return of the Coffin Ships". By my count, even after that book was published about this topic (late 1990s), bulkers still wound up disappearing or sinking at a high rate up until at least 2006. I don't too often see big bulk carriers sink through poor quality alone (so excluding cargo liquefaction as happened to Nasco Diamond, Nur Allya, Emerald Star, etc.), but there was one major exception in 2017 when Stellar Daisy broke up in moderate weather.
The upright prow was the only intact section of the ship they ever found. The rest of the ship was destroyed by implosions and lies strewn across the ocean floor in over 2000 pieces.
actually, the entirety of the sinking took about 14 hours to fill the hold and the vent and the balast. The final blunge, (all the hatches imploding) took 3 minutes.
My dad was one step away from going on it before it sank! Instead he swaped with someone who didnt want to go on a oil tanker. Its was twice the lenth and 3 times the width of the titanic!! No body on that ship survived! R.I.P
I sailed with a guy who swapped his watch with a guy on the Herald Of Free Enterprise a passenger car ferry. By watch I mean there is one crew working one week and then they go off and another crew come aboard and do exactly the same jobs in all of the positions. The man he swapped with died when the ship turned over.
May the crew rest in peace. If you'd have been aboard, you would have heard (& possibly felt) the forward cargo spaces imploding. A terrifying final couple of minutes.
This is similar to what happened to Titanic’s stern as it descended. It was still filled with air, and it was descending fractured end first, which caused it to violently implode and tear itself apart. That’s why it looks like a bomb went off at the sterns wreck site.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Dude, I spent a fair amount of time working on the ocean, as a kid. Estimates put 80ft seas over the bow of the Derbyshire. That's no laughing matter for any ship.
@@sirankleknocker3122 If 80ft was the average, then there were plenty slamming into that ship that were larger - If they managed to keep the bow on to ride it out, one or two 100 ft sneakers slamming broadside would spin them out of control. Not able to change tack in a trough would finish them quickly in seas that monstrous.
th-cam.com/video/eoHD3VfhYxo/w-d-xo.html This is a video of the MV Stellar Banner been scuttled. She is about 46m longer than Derbyshire. Once those holds fill with water these carriers sink like a stone. This video gives you an idea of how quickly Derbyshire would've gone down.
Two minutes....might as well start singing nearer my god to thee, man...two minutes....I can't even fathom that. A huge ship, massive ship already headed to the bottom in two short minutes. The only thing I can hope for is that it was quick for them. And it was probably better t go down with the ship because being in a life boat on those seas would be terribly worse way to go.
I don’t agree, the ship is gone no way to survive on it cause it will go, no matter how hard the waves hit the lifeboats you would be more likely to survive.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Assuming the ship had them in the first place. Remember that for a while, life boats were essentially rubber rafts and not much else. Newer boats are more sturdy, and far more likely to survive rough seas (they're built for it after all), but they aren't that common, and even on the ships that do have them it's not easy for everyone to get to the boat, especially in just two minutes.
I was part of the RN search team on RFA Stromness worse weather I ever saw at sea I recall you could see daylight beneath the frigates as they bounced from wave to wave ( we happened to be in the area at the time !) poor sods !
@@thetexan.engineer974 if you look at the date of the animation in the bottom right at the beginning of the video, you find that it was made on September 3rd 1998. You really shouldn't expect any better from a video of this age.
This is why it's now an instant sounding the Abandon Ship alarm if the water ingress alarms go off in the holds of Bulkers. Was asked the same question on my OOW & Chiefs orals exams.
I Sailed on her sister ship the Sir John Hunter when she made her maiden voyage form Bremerhaven to Norfolk Virginia and stayed onboard for 2 years….. what a loss for the families.
I have read most of the official report released after the 1996 surveys: The main engine was not identified… the superstructure housing the wheel house and crew lodgings is upside down and severely crushed. All of the hatch covers are buckled, broken or folded over. The isolated bow, though largely intact, has a large crack along a joist attaching it to the no.1 hold, which could have been caused by a violent shift of wet iron ore slamming into the ballast tank.
Why weren’t they informed by some type of sensor or alarm that the front ballast tank had filled they could have then turned on their pumps and pumped it out saving them
Lucky The Wolf I agree with what you said. I also want to add that the crew would’ve probably had a hard time activating the pumps anyway. Besides, it would only get harder as time progressed.
This is why they have freefall lifeboats on these kinds of ships. Conventional lifeboats would not be able to be launched quickly enough to abandon ship before it sank. Freefall lifeboats can be launched in seconds right up until the ship goes down.
I honestly think the implode and explode would've happened a bit deeper tbh. If you look at the titanic stern survivors said they heard a bag noise 20 or so seconds after it went under. Same thing I think happened here. R.I.P to the 44 people aboard her.
If the crew on the bridge saw anything that night, it would be seeing the front of the ship not come up from beneath those waves, and considering how fast it was, they must've shit themselves
Yeah, people knock it for sinking on it's first trip but that was mostly down to user error not a design fault. Titanic was clearly better designed than this hopeless ship.
What happened here is obvious. Nothing could’ve stopped this, except for delays, and the ship turning around, which would probably get the captain reprimanded ( anyone who fires a captain who runs from those kinds of waves is insane in my book ). Aside from that, nothing could be done. Evening if they noticed the large waves before the hatch cover, nothing could’ve been done. Those waves would’ve sunk the lifeboats. And by the time they actually noticed it, when they saw, or most likely heard the first one collapse, it would’ve been too late to do anything. Launching a boat = Impossible. At that point, I’d just put myself in a lifeboat, and sit in it with my crewmates as it went down. Derbyshire is such a good name too.
Her sister ship KOWLOON BRIDGE,had the same design fault in the weld below the accomodation. The derbyshire and kowloon bridge suffered the same breakage.What you see on this video is a cover up between Lord Bibby and Lioyds of London.
andrew latchford yeah this is wrong the Kowloon bridge did break at rib 65 but it ran aground first the Derbyshire took on water and sank causing it to implode it didn’t break apart go watch the documentary
Omg you thundering half Witt. Read the transcript from the numerous enquiries. Nothing to do with design faults at bulkheads. Stop this conspiracy nonsense
The weather when she went down was horrendous. We were in the same storm our ship was battered loosing containers. The mast was bent and the funnel wrecked. The ship was listing heavily due to frozen ice onboard. We were ordered to don life jackets. Luckily the ship stayed afloat and we limped into port. I was frightened and 🙏for the lost souls on that fateful day. Maybe Davy Jones wasn’t ready for me🙈 I’m still at sea and ❤ my kid as chief 👨🍳
Everytime these cargo ships and I mean massive cargo ships try to dodge a massive rotating monster in one of our oceans on this planet it always ends in fatal destruction. They had no time to survive that event.
So basically, 1:20 through 3:00 is how fast the ship sank in real time, the forward tanks took 12 hours to fill according to the simulation, just think about that. It sank so quickly!
This looks like some superb design failure. I mean think about it: All that had to happen to set the disaster in motion was the loss of the hatch cover. After that, disaster could take it course.
When the cargo holds submerged lids cave in thus allowing water to fill each chamber, why would the ship implode continually? Once the holds are full, isn’t the pressures equal?
They got three different weather reports, each specifying the typhoon in different places. The captain tried to go around all of them. Kind of bad luck.
This video is wrong. Just watched the documentary and did some research. It was not the forward hatch cover. The rough seas ripped off the forward air vent covers and the sea water entered through there over a period of almost a day. There was no way the captain or crew could have seen this from the bridge especially in that kind of weather. Even if they had seen the vent covers missing in seas that rough there would be no way to try to fix the problem without being washed overboard. The captain and crew were in no way at fault here, just a very unfortunate freak accident. May they rest in peace.
strange !! as an ex merchant seaman i doubt this theory as the ship was struck so suddenly there was no time for a distress signal so i find this account of events rather dubious , her sister ships nearly ALL snapped in two ex kowloon bridge 1986 off of ireland
The Edmund Fitzgerald sank on Lake Superior instantly, no distress signal. It was a 900 foot ore carrier, 35’ seas. There was a sister ship 15 miles behind that made it through. They lost the fitz instantly on radar
The sound the ship made must have been horrifying, I believe it was also the middle of the night so pitch black, worse than any nightmare I've ever had
Wasn't the cause found in one of her sister ships that was in dry dock in Holland .. which the cause was the rivets would crack in cold temperature thus causing the midships to break in half
What the video isn’t showing you was the DerbyShire easily fitted on the downside of the wave in that storm. The weight of water that eventually rolled across her was I have to tell you as tall as a building.
The forward tanks imploded at a shallow depth. Maybe the ship could have stayed afloat longer if forward structures hadn't been damaged by implosion effects.
Rogue waves do not forgive. This along with this vessel's design flaws sent everybody straight to the bottom of the ocean...and within 2 minutes there was no time to organize any evacuation whatsoever.
Two minutes is plenty of time to make a distress call, but none was made. It wouldn't have made a difference because the ship and its crew were doomed as soon as that first hatchway gave in. Still, why no call? Overwhelmed by terror? Resigned acceptance? A panicked scramble for the lifeboats and/or life preservers? Or did the ship sink even faster than those two minutes?
These events happened at night, where the crewman on watch would have had essentially no visibility. I'm not an expert but in most comm's training the emphasis is on being specific. The man on watch likely had no idea what was happening (thus had no idea what to cite as the reason for putting out an SOS), and even if he did, it's possible to be hit with a situation in such a way as to be blinded to most or all options by how overwhelming the situation itself is. For example: many pilots in airliner and military service ended up avoidably perishing, because they failed in the moment to see what was actually wrong &/or [in military situations] didn't even consider ejecting, due to hyper-fixation on trying to regain control.
Its what happens when the double hull is filled with air then surrounded with tons of pressure from the water itself it implodes on its self in a violent chain reaction
I was an Engineer cadet on her 2 years prior and sailed the same route with the same cargo. Some of my College mates and shipmates perished with her. RIP all.
Subsequent investigation has exonerated the crew as there is strong evidence of the fore hatch being lashed correctly and that the spare screw (mounted at the fore end starboard side) came loose during the descent and tore it off on its way past on its path to leaving the ship on the port side.
Iron ore is very dense and I remember looking down during loading and being amazed at the amount of space there was left in the hold after loading.
The hatches succumbed to the heavy seas leaving gaping holes and thousands of m3 of space to fill with water. The ship went down before a radio signal could be made, which demonstrates the stupidity of of any “survival” comments. If the Bridge watch-keeper (who would recognise what was happening and be the nearest person able to jump overboard) couldn’t survive, nobody could.
do you know why they didnt abandon ship?
Very sad.
Thank you. I am sorry this must be upsetting for you.
@@randomrazr It all happened in 2 minutes from start to finish.
Try this exercise. Stand straight up, start a 2 minute timer. Start tipping your body forward, flail your arms about, buckle your knees a time or 5 until you can't stand upright. Might come close to mimicking how difficult it is to navigate the narrow hallways and stairclimbs within a multi story cargo ships bridge to get outside to the lifeboats while it's shimmying, shaking and going vertical-sideways-overboard. In less than 2 minutes.
@@randomrazr They wouldn't have had time. This occurred at night in very heavy seas. The officer on watch wouldn't have been able to see properly. You are taught that the ship is your best lifeboat. However, launching lifeboats is not a quick procedure, and you have to remember the lifeboats back then were not covered. Try to imagine jumping into a 25- 30 for boat with no cover, and a miserable little diesel engine at best, and sailing in seas of 60 feet waves. The poor souls had no chance whatsoever
Creepy. I mean, gone in two minutes? With this animation, you're pretty much watching the sinking in real time.
Plus less than 1 hour when the first hatch cover was driven in.
@Jeremy Wiley all died?
@@idzpacz2909 Yes,42 crew and two officers wives,...
@@westboundbadger 😥😥😥
NAVIGARE NECESSE EST, VIVERE NON EST
ONE MUST SAIL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO LIVE ( attributed to Plato )
To be inside and to hear that ship practically tear itself apart.. Truly cannot imagine what those men went through during those 2 minutes. R.I.P
And two wives
Jesus, so from the failure of the foremost hold-cover to the entire ship sinking beneath the waves was nearly shown in REAL TIME in this animation. There's no surviving that.
Henry Bemis oh no he didnt xd
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Nope. Takes 5 minutes to climb from engine bay to topside in ideal conditions. Impossible to do it the the bow at a 45 degree dive and such. Rip
It took 12 hours to fill the fore peak.
Well no it took a couple days for the vent cover to take in a lot of water
I cant imagine how terrifying that must be, a ship silently fills with water. Next thing you know the whole thing starts to slip under. I cant imagine how those sailors were feeling.
Bruh, they couldnt swim they would just drown
This could not have been silent in any manner or sort. The crashing waves, the ripped metal, the implosions, this must have been devilish.
It would have been incredibly horrifying. They would have heard and felt the hatch covers going . From there it’s really unimaginable what they experienced
@@tomash9116 he probably ment the two vent pipes at the bow, the ship filling up in that regional area
@@danielfletcher1595 that is what I was going for
It's actually thought she sunk in seconds, not minutes. When she sunk, she was carrying iron ore. Because the density of it, some of her tanks were completely empty or had very little ore in them (because if all were full, she couldn't float at all because too much weight.). That's why so much water was able to get in. Either way, the crew was probably still asleep when she started to sink, and even with the 2 minute estimate no one could have ever survived. Scary stuff.
Their final moments would have been almost too horrifying to imagine.
I sailed on one of the sister ships to the Derbyshire. The MV Sir Alexander Glen. We passed over the last known location of the Derbyshire pretty much a year later. Carrying iron ore, and in very rough conditions, though not quite as severe as the Derbyshire, there wasn't too many atheists on board. We were all aware of cracks at beam 65 - just forward of the accommodation structure. Was very glad to get off her in Japan. I can only imagine what was going through the minds of the poor souls on the Derbyshire. RIP
Did the ship undergo any modifications to strengthen the beams and specially hatches? Was anything learned from the doomed sister ship?
Maybe they were thinking that they should’ve paid attention to the Edmund Fitzgerald a little more
It’s like a domino effect. One hold collapses, then the next, then the other 7 one by one until the stern separates from the ship because of implosions in each of the 9 holds. May the ones who died in this tragedy Rest In Piece.
No shit it says that
As it does it goes faster and faster.
I sailed on a sister ship to Derbyshire - the Tyne Bridge - a ship that I saw launched in 1970 at Haverton hill in Middlesbrough. This was my third trip to sea and I was 20 years old. I spent the rest of my working life working on merchant ships, mostly large oil tankers. In those 40 years I never saw a ship so badly constructed, poorly maintained and cack handedly operated as that Tyne Bridge. I have the wisdom and experience to realize now that that I was lucky to survive that trip.
A lot of bulkers those days were in poor condition, especially those flagged to registries less reputable to say the least. Was never aware just how badly affected bulk carriers were during the 1980s and 1990s until reading "Return of the Coffin Ships". By my count, even after that book was published about this topic (late 1990s), bulkers still wound up disappearing or sinking at a high rate up until at least 2006. I don't too often see big bulk carriers sink through poor quality alone (so excluding cargo liquefaction as happened to Nasco Diamond, Nur Allya, Emerald Star, etc.), but there was one major exception in 2017 when Stellar Daisy broke up in moderate weather.
The upright prow was the only intact section of the ship they ever found. The rest of the ship was destroyed by implosions and lies strewn across the ocean floor in over 2000 pieces.
After serving on capsize bulk carriers myself...this is Horrific- poor people.
deepsea what do you mean by serving on capsize bulk carrier I am now interested in what you do?
Idk what to use probably been on bulk carriers that capsized
@@drewcarll5431 He probably means Capesize.
@@chiefdoesgaming8269 Correct! Capesize bulker.
So sad, scary, poor people... Shows the power of the ocean, swallowing an enormous ship in a matter of seconds...
actually, the entirety of the sinking took about 14 hours to fill the hold and the vent and the balast. The final blunge, (all the hatches imploding) took 3 minutes.
Matter of seconds, huh? Nice job bub.
My dad was one step away from going on it before it sank! Instead he swaped with someone who didnt want to go on a oil tanker. Its was twice the lenth and 3 times the width of the titanic!! No body on that ship survived! R.I.P
So who did he swap with? That guy must've died!
I sailed with a guy who swapped his watch with a guy on the Herald Of Free Enterprise a passenger car ferry. By watch I mean there is one crew working one week and then they go off and another crew come aboard and do exactly the same jobs in all of the positions. The man he swapped with died when the ship turned over.
your dad is very lucky that he didn't go on that oil tanker and become a victim!!!
kris horabin I’ll get more lives to die now >:3
This is pure lies.
May the crew rest in peace. If you'd have been aboard, you would have heard (& possibly felt) the forward cargo spaces imploding. A terrifying final couple of minutes.
This is similar to what happened to Titanic’s stern as it descended. It was still filled with air, and it was descending fractured end first, which caused it to violently implode and tear itself apart. That’s why it looks like a bomb went off at the sterns wreck site.
Damn, only 2 minutes. No wonder there weren't any survivors.
+Paul Edwards, is that right? Well, they were sentenced to their deaths, then.
Hey Mommy! LOOK! I can use vulgar language and not have dad beat the crap out of me! Ain't I clever! I feel just like a grown up!
+BaconOddity, yeah, but it DID sink in two minutes, didn't it?
Yeah, back at you, buddy. ;)
BaconOddity The video is real time you idiot
+Patrick. From 1:20 onwards
Even if anyone managed to get off, there's no way to survive those seas in a life boat.
Thats true.. I think the same..
We don’t have titanic lifeboats so there was a chance they DID survive on a lifeboat if they could acquire one.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Dude, I spent a fair amount of time working on the ocean, as a kid. Estimates put 80ft seas over the bow of the Derbyshire. That's no laughing matter for any ship.
RW4X4X3006 80ft waves? That’s brutal!
@@sirankleknocker3122 If 80ft was the average, then there were plenty slamming into that ship that were larger - If they managed to keep the bow on to ride it out, one or two 100 ft sneakers slamming broadside would spin them out of control. Not able to change tack in a trough would finish them quickly in seas that monstrous.
But this ship can't sink?!
She's made of iron, sir, I assure you she can.. and she will..
Mr. Andrews would be pleased.. It is afterall... a mathematical certainty!
someone needs a afternoon nap. they get all cranky when they are over tired.
BaconOddity dude take a rest, it's a Titanic quote -_-
BaconOddity
Triggered much?
its the cause of The Devil's Triangle
th-cam.com/video/eoHD3VfhYxo/w-d-xo.html This is a video of the MV Stellar Banner been scuttled. She is about 46m longer than Derbyshire. Once those holds fill with water these carriers sink like a stone. This video gives you an idea of how quickly Derbyshire would've gone down.
Thank you for posting the link!
Wow. And this is a real-time animation.
Two minutes....might as well start singing nearer my god to thee, man...two minutes....I can't even fathom that. A huge ship, massive ship already headed to the bottom in two short minutes. The only thing I can hope for is that it was quick for them. And it was probably better t go down with the ship because being in a life boat on those seas would be terribly worse way to go.
André Rieu, Nearer, My God, to Thee: th-cam.com/video/v1mQT1u_45I/w-d-xo.html
I don’t agree, the ship is gone no way to survive on it cause it will go, no matter how hard the waves hit the lifeboats you would be more likely to survive.
The ship was actually sinking for about 13 or so hours.
Aren’t the lifeboats sealed
or at least hollowed out
like, those orange lifeboats
They’re fully sealed, so they could probably survive.
@@sirankleknocker3122 Assuming the ship had them in the first place. Remember that for a while, life boats were essentially rubber rafts and not much else. Newer boats are more sturdy, and far more likely to survive rough seas (they're built for it after all), but they aren't that common, and even on the ships that do have them it's not easy for everyone to get to the boat, especially in just two minutes.
I was part of the RN search team on RFA Stromness worse weather I ever saw at sea I recall you could see daylight beneath the frigates as they bounced from wave to wave ( we happened to be in the area at the time !) poor sods !
The audio quality is excellent!
This audio quality is my favorite ever
Ugh, sarcasm. The video quality is terrible and no audio, but it explains how the ship sank
E Aird this comment was made 5 years ago
@@thetexan.engineer974 if you look at the date of the animation in the bottom right at the beginning of the video, you find that it was made on September 3rd 1998. You really shouldn't expect any better from a video of this age.
It is better than having some loud crappy dramatic music playing in the background.
The SS Edmund Fitzgerald when down in similar conditions she also lost forward vents and was lost with all hands to sad.
The sinking transpired in around two minutes? TWO minutes! I'm utterly gobsmacked that a ship that size can sink that fast!
For those in peril..... It's just amazing this doesn't happen more often. RIP.
This is why it's now an instant sounding the Abandon Ship alarm if the water ingress alarms go off in the holds of Bulkers. Was asked the same question on my OOW & Chiefs orals exams.
I Sailed on her sister ship the Sir John Hunter when she made her maiden voyage form Bremerhaven to Norfolk Virginia and stayed onboard for 2 years….. what a loss for the families.
I have read most of the official report released after the 1996 surveys: The main engine was not identified… the superstructure housing the wheel house and crew lodgings is upside down and severely crushed. All of the hatch covers are buckled, broken or folded over. The isolated bow, though largely intact, has a large crack along a joist attaching it to the no.1 hold, which could have been caused by a violent shift of wet iron ore slamming into the ballast tank.
As a Naval Architect and ex seaman I would have welded every aperture shut before the bloody storm hit !!
Exactly Right.
Why weren’t they informed by some type of sensor or alarm that the front ballast tank had filled they could have then turned on their pumps and pumped it out saving them
Lucky The Wolf I agree with what you said. I also want to add that the crew would’ve probably had a hard time activating the pumps anyway. Besides, it would only get harder as time progressed.
They would have had to do emergency hatch and vent cover replacement, and pumped the water out to survive.
Dude it was the 80s
@@fast-toast pretty sure there was alarms back on the 80s and pumps back in the 80s
Just 2 minutes and it's gone, the horror those sailors and 2 wives went through when they died! RIP
This is why they have freefall lifeboats on these kinds of ships. Conventional lifeboats would not be able to be launched quickly enough to abandon ship before it sank. Freefall lifeboats can be launched in seconds right up until the ship goes down.
It was during a typhoon lifeboats wouldn't have helped
@Paddy Mcdoogle all enquiries completely exhonerated the master and crew actions. The master followed ALL protocol to the letter
I don't know if those lifeboats would've stayed afloat in those seas.
I honestly think the implode and explode would've happened a bit deeper tbh. If you look at the titanic stern survivors said they heard a bag noise 20 or so seconds after it went under. Same thing I think happened here. R.I.P to the 44 people aboard her.
If I see water waves consistently covering any part of the ship, I think that's the cue for me to make camp in the lifeboat.
If waves are covering top of a massive oil tanker, you think a little life boat is gonna fare well in that?
@@iwontreplybacklol7481 Those lifeboats are more like a capsule. They're not going to take on water to sink. But it's gonna be bumpy for sure.
@@busybillyb33 Not the ones on the Derbyshire. She still had old fashioned rowboat style lifeboats
Wow, what a sad sinking. Well, what am I saying? Every sinking of any ship is tragic.
Its not.. Luckily Sinking of Oceanos wasnt tragic.. Cos surprisingly noone died..
@@jonbonesmahomes7472 noone was even injured
If the crew on the bridge saw anything that night, it would be seeing the front of the ship not come up from beneath those waves, and considering how fast it was, they must've shit themselves
There must’ve been some sign on the bridge that something was wrong. An alarm sounding, anything.
Shit, rather be on the Titanic
Yeah, people knock it for sinking on it's first trip but that was mostly down to user error not a design fault. Titanic was clearly better designed than this hopeless ship.
To be fair the titanic never had to deal with 25 m waves or 100mph typhoon winds
me too for sure
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@@KiwiPowerNZ I'm not sure the RMS Titanic would have fared much better in conditions like this for a sustained period of time.
God bless them all. The sea is unforgiving with it's force. RIP.
Gone in 2 minutes? jesus you will literally not survive that. Rest in Peace to the victims of the Derbyshire, Theyre in a better place now.
In a raging typhoon with waves well over 10 meters high I doubt even the lifeboats would have been able to cope with that
What happened here is obvious.
Nothing could’ve stopped this, except for delays, and the ship turning around, which would probably get the captain reprimanded ( anyone who fires a captain who runs from those kinds of waves is insane in my book ).
Aside from that, nothing could be done.
Evening if they noticed the large waves before the hatch cover, nothing could’ve been done. Those waves would’ve sunk the lifeboats.
And by the time they actually noticed it, when they saw, or most likely heard the first one collapse, it would’ve been too late to do anything.
Launching a boat = Impossible.
At that point, I’d just put myself in a lifeboat, and sit in it with my crewmates as it went down.
Derbyshire is such a good name too.
My right ear really enjoys the audio quality XD
I thought my headphones broke
Does it? Good for you ya sarcastic twat
@@Your2TiminEx Daaaaamn. You're saltier than the Ocean that swallowed the Derbyshire. I guess your mom should have swallowed too.
Her sister ship KOWLOON BRIDGE,had the same design fault in the weld below the accomodation. The derbyshire and kowloon bridge suffered the same breakage.What you see on this video is a cover up between Lord Bibby and Lioyds of London.
andrew latchford yes everyone knows that it had a fault this video puts it all down to a typhoon thats why they did not want to find the ship
Kowloon Bridge lost it's rudder and broke it's back on rocks off the coast of Ireland. Nothing to do with welding my friend.
andrew latchford yeah this is wrong the Kowloon bridge did break at rib 65 but it ran aground first the Derbyshire took on water and sank causing it to implode it didn’t break apart go watch the documentary
I could not agree more, cover up from start to finish.If still available read Captain David Ramwells excellent book' A Ship too Far'.
Omg you thundering half Witt. Read the transcript from the numerous enquiries. Nothing to do with design faults at bulkheads. Stop this conspiracy nonsense
The weather when she went down was horrendous. We were in the same storm our ship was battered loosing containers. The mast was bent and the funnel wrecked. The ship was listing heavily due to frozen ice onboard. We were ordered to don life jackets. Luckily the ship stayed afloat and we limped into port. I was frightened and 🙏for the lost souls on that fateful day. Maybe Davy Jones wasn’t ready for me🙈 I’m still at sea and ❤ my kid as chief 👨🍳
Two minutes, a massive ship, taken away in just 2 minutes, desintegrating it in the process.
You know its bad when THE FUCKING SUPERSTRUCTURE COMES OFF
Everytime these cargo ships and I mean massive cargo ships try to dodge a massive rotating monster in one of our oceans on this planet it always ends in fatal destruction. They had no time to survive that event.
So basically, 1:20 through 3:00 is how fast the ship sank in real time, the forward tanks took 12 hours to fill according to the simulation, just think about that. It sank so quickly!
Cant imagine how terrifying it mustve been to look death in the face like that sheeesh.
This looks like some superb design failure. I mean think about it: All that had to happen to set the disaster in motion was the loss of the hatch cover. After that, disaster could take it course.
Yes , the entry point. How the cover was designed and locked. Nothing of that showed here.
Back and back there's no stopping it
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a movie or a book about this. It would be interesting.
Christ the pressure that must be needed to burst one of those hatches must be incredible they are solid metal about 2ft thick
I think you mean two inches. Even that might be a bit to much. Still a lot of pressure to do that kind of damage though.
2ft thick?! Nonsense.
No man can build a ship that a storm can't sink.
ama right a song about this
What documentary was this from? I love the aesthetic of old videos like this and I’d like to watch the whole thing.
When people say "Worse things happen at sea" This is the sort of thing they're talking about.
First time I watched this I thought it said it took 2 seconds, I am glad I re watched it.
It would be impossible to sink in 2 secs, until..
When the cargo holds submerged lids cave in thus allowing water to fill each chamber, why would the ship implode continually? Once the holds are full, isn’t the pressures equal?
Not the Ballast tanks though and they were the ones imploding and tearing the hull apart in the process.
The sinking of Derbyshire is way faster than this video we just watched
Tragic, I remember this.
Thanks for video!
God have mercy on their souls may they be able to pass through heaven and not to hell
Why were they sailing in this weather to begin with?
They got three different weather reports, each specifying the typhoon in different places. The captain tried to go around all of them. Kind of bad luck.
door: *opens*
water: not my fault
This video is wrong. Just watched the documentary and did some research. It was not the forward hatch cover. The rough seas ripped off the forward air vent covers and the sea water entered through there over a period of almost a day. There was no way the captain or crew could have seen this from the bridge especially in that kind of weather. Even if they had seen the vent covers missing in seas that rough there would be no way to try to fix the problem without being washed overboard.
The captain and crew were in no way at fault here, just a very unfortunate freak accident.
May they rest in peace.
At 2:19, the two cranes looked like they both jumped off the ship
strange !! as an ex merchant seaman i doubt this theory as the ship was struck so suddenly there was no time for a distress signal so i find this account of events rather dubious , her sister ships nearly ALL snapped in two ex kowloon bridge 1986 off of ireland
The Edmund Fitzgerald sank on Lake Superior instantly, no distress signal. It was a 900 foot ore carrier, 35’ seas. There was a sister ship 15 miles behind that made it through. They lost the fitz instantly on radar
But this ship can’t sink?! she’s made of metal sir I assure you she can and she will
The sound the ship made must have been horrifying, I believe it was also the middle of the night so pitch black, worse than any nightmare I've ever had
Wasn't the cause found in one of her sister ships that was in dry dock in Holland .. which the cause was the rivets would crack in cold temperature thus causing the midships to break in half
colintraveller no and if you listen to this they tell you exactly why it sinks
Sounds like Michael Jayston doing the narration. What a wonderful voice for a horrible topic.
Yup, almost 100% certain it's him.
It's ALWAYS the cargo hold!
This is a small ship in a big sea
the liverpool bridge was it real name built at haverton ship yard port clarence launched 05/12/ 1975
What the video isn’t showing you was the DerbyShire easily fitted on the downside of the wave in that storm. The weight of water that eventually rolled across her was I have to tell you as tall as a building.
Making this in sinking simulator!
Heyy may i use the footage in one of my videos?
So if they are correct regarding the time from hatch 1 collapsing then this video is almost like real time of the sinking 😨
I got offered the Derbyshire when i was a kid,am i so glad i knocked it back and ended up sailing on another ship.
The forward tanks imploded at a shallow depth. Maybe the ship could have stayed afloat longer if forward structures hadn't been damaged by implosion effects.
Truly horrible, they didn't stand a chance. The physics of this 'explanation', however, is way short of sound and satisfactory.
This is wrong, it wasn't a hatch cover left open. Watch the documentary and the inquiry.
why do i remember watching this long time ago?
So technically she sunk in some 11-12 hours.
Ballast tanks without a pump? Great idea.
Rogue waves do not forgive. This along with this vessel's design flaws sent everybody straight to the bottom of the ocean...and within 2 minutes there was no time to organize any evacuation whatsoever.
Jools VK
I wish they could make a similar ship design to this because they looked really nice.
He said it took 12 hours to fill ? What the absolute fuck was the crew doing that whole time ?
Should’ve installed a pump system in that forward compartment just in case, probably would’ve saved the day
What is that going to do against 50 foot waves?
@@titanicbigship Not much, but maybe it would’ve given em a little more time and a warning as to what was happening
And here I was thinking modern giant ships are at least safe from weather
It's because the forecastle is flushed with he deck and it's not raised
Two minutes is plenty of time to make a distress call, but none was made. It wouldn't have made a difference because the ship and its crew were doomed as soon as that first hatchway gave in. Still, why no call? Overwhelmed by terror? Resigned acceptance? A panicked scramble for the lifeboats and/or life preservers? Or did the ship sink even faster than those two minutes?
These events happened at night, where the crewman on watch would have had essentially no visibility. I'm not an expert but in most comm's training the emphasis is on being specific. The man on watch likely had no idea what was happening (thus had no idea what to cite as the reason for putting out an SOS), and even if he did, it's possible to be hit with a situation in such a way as to be blinded to most or all options by how overwhelming the situation itself is.
For example: many pilots in airliner and military service ended up avoidably perishing, because they failed in the moment to see what was actually wrong &/or [in military situations] didn't even consider ejecting, due to hyper-fixation on trying to regain control.
Its what happens when the double hull is filled with air then surrounded with tons of pressure from the water itself it implodes on its self in a violent chain reaction
A pretty brutal way a carrier could sink.
i like your video.
Two quick minutes to disaster. No time for a mayday, no time to launch the lifeboats. Two quick minutes, and all hands lost.
2 minutes....my god must havebeen a horrific scene
Poseidon: "You can't park there, mate"
Two minutes, folks.