Nice to see Lima getting some attention. They made some good products over the years and were the only company in the 1970s/1980s (and beyond I would argue) that took modern image seriously. I really miss being able to buy new locos at such reasonable prices. Crude by today's standards of course but good enough for many modellers and notable for being tough, reliable and easy to work on. Not everything needs to be all-singing-and-dancing and mega expensive, there is definitely a place for simple and affordable.
Hi Paul, they are not too bad for the money. There are nice boxed ones out there for around £30. What I like is the amount of liveries available. Cheers Rick
All great choices, Rick. I’ve only recently delved into learning about British locomotive classes and nomenclature. Fascinating, and happy to say I recognized your models and understood what you were talking about!cheers, Andrew 🇨🇦
Great video again. People soetimes tend to look down on Lima but it actually was quite a good brand with a decent amount of models for every modeller. Perhaps not all that superbly detailed for some but in some cases they did better than other big brands and still decently priced. In some countries bigger department stores sold Lima products under their own name, a great way to get started in the hobby. The accessories were a class apart too, they had everything you could wish for and more.
Hi Ed, I always liked the Lima models and they have proved to be very durable. It says it all that when Hornby bought Lima that they used the Lima moulds to replace some of Hornbys own. Thanks for watching Rick
great video probably 95% off my locos are lima and have had them for over 40 years and they are still running wish lima were still around .like the the channel very informative
Thanks Geoffrey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, we try to find a balance between being fun and informative. One thing I love about Lima models is the massive loco variations they did due to the limited production runs they were able to do. Thanks for watching Rick.
Hi Steve, I don't actually have many Mainline locos, I'd say around 6 but apart from the Peaks they are not great runners. ☹️ I'm going to do Wrenn next which should be interesting. Apart from a couple they all run very well. Thanks for watching Rick
Hi there i love the old lima locomotives one of my favourites is the GWR rail car .they can be made to run nicely i found a great video on how to service them posted by model railway unlimited. Now mine run lovely happy modelling everyone 👍 😁
Nice models Rick I also like lima models got just over 100 models now always look at the expensive ones but when you see the price some hornby railroad models going past £100 pounds now and some of them are the lima body all the best 👍
Hi Michael, I can't fault the second hand values of Lima models, a bit of detailing and they look really good. Such a large choice of models as well. Cheers Rick
Your piece made me find the opening and credit sequence to "Get Carter" and watch it for the unpteenth time - my second favourite film after The Dambusters". I could probably recite the dialogue for both films from memory if I tried hard. The theme music for the pair of them are also classics Whoops - suppossed to be talking about trains - good choise of locos as well. Was "srandardisation " the word you were looking for?.
Hi Richard, it's a true classic and I have got the soundtrack which fits the film perfectly. I would love to know which Deltic is in the opening titles. Standardisation was the word I was looking for, thank you. The Dambusters is another classic that never gets old. Thanks for watching Rick
Yes my first Lima diesel was a western western renown paid £6.99p in Trent’s Reading in 1980 blimey ,you know Lina motors are so easy to maintain and made to run quieter OO bill has a tip by smoothing off the flash on the gear wheel makes a whole heap of difference ,saw 87005 racing through Willesden Junction it’s only 2miles to the north of me hear in W6 ,me and my brother would jump on a 220 and train spot there and the bus passed iron bridge on scrubs lane so we got off there my great late 😢 step dad would take us there nice memories now it’s the hitachi GWR depot former North Pole Eurostar depot and all Old Oak Common is a building site for HS2 etc skyscrapers everywhere there now I love progress but my memories have been bulldozed 😢😢 All the best to you all a big woof to Bobby from postman mark hehe Mark 😊😊
Hi Mark, I've heard of the fix for the cogs but it was a long time ago and I've been meaning to try it on a loco. It wasn't 00Bill though, this was way before we started our channel when I first got back into model railways. I will have to hunt the channel out as it was pretty good. Nice to hear of your old adventures. Western Renown was one of my favourite models as a youngster and I have a photo of me running it as a kid somewhere. It was always a great runner and its replacement is just as good. Bobby says woof by the way! 🐕 All the best Rick
Nice video. I'd include the class 20 in my list. Alongside the deltic they are my favourite diesels. The class 20 looks like a diesel version of a steam loco.....can and one end and a long "boiler" section. Always wondered if the designer was a big steam fan
Good to see some Lima locos. My Lima locos have all been reliable. If you get the class 52 Western bear in mind the one in sand livery has the wrong number. I still really like it though. Thanks for showing some great choices. Cheers Paul.
Hi Paul I have nearly bought the sand one on a couple of occasions and the seller did point out it's the wrong number. Not really bothered to be honest as it's a really nice livery. Hard to find a gold one though. All the best Rick.
Hi Rick and Pauline, good to see a new video. One question, do all these models have this noisy typical Lima ring motor? Personally not a big diesel fan, I only have two BR blue class 40's from Hornby, these where originally LIMA molds, the only thing Hornby did was to retool the motor, and got rid of the ring motor, good improvement. They also come with DCC sound (the only models I have with a sound module, fun gadget, but in general too noisy for my taste) My two diesels are the part of my track cleaning train, as they pull track cleaning wagons. So when you see them going around it's maintenance time… Cheers, Danny
Hi Danny, yes they do but the noise varies from loco to loco. The earlier models are quite for some reason. The noise can be reduced by filing some moulding bumps off the cogs. Personally I like the noise but it's not to everyone's taste including Pauline. I have a few retooled Hornby locos and the only difference seems to be the motors, pickups and couplings. All the best Rick
The class 87 is electric, not diesel god get it right 🙄🤣 brilliant video as always you two! I got a Lima deltic thats silly smooth after giving the gears a good clean up of sprew and bits between the teeth, rebuilt it out of spares for a bargain Should also say, lima locos with the cab right up and square to the buffers like the 87, 47, 52 and such have cab interior inserts because of the motor bogie needing room, but on those models they're just fortunate to have room to interiors while the 37 would be an awkward squeeze.
Lol there always one😂😂 yes I was having this conversation about the cab detail and motor room with Pauline. So at least we agree on something. The earlier model seems to be quieter but to be honest I don't mind the noise so I won't be bothering tinkering with them. Cheers for watching Rick.
Nice one . People are a bit sniffy about Lima models but they did the job and shook Hornby up because they were a little bit less expensive . I still have 37/47 and 87 s which I run . The only downside is they are very noisy - but not noisier than my Bachmann 158 that I’ve bought new for £280 ! If only Lima were still around now we would be having low cost 68s and multiple units
Nearly all my Lima diesels and electrics are quiet runners - mine are are second hand, but 2 are ex display and are a bit noisy. Suspect they just need running in and then a service. Very underrated by the purists but I've found them to be superb runners and crawlers.
Agreed. It's not just that Lima were cheaper than Hornby though, they had a more comprehensive range of modern image locos and modelled many smaller, less well-known classes that the steam-oriented competition did not bother with, e.g. 50, 73, 33, 26, 27, GWR Railcar etc. Also their mouldings tended to be better than Hornby's, many of which had become outdated and toylike even by 1980s standards. It is a testament to Lima tooling that some of the bodies are still offered in the Hornby Railroad range today, ~40 years on.
@@paulc9588 yes . I have a Railroad 47 which still looks good , but with updated mechanism . This video dpurred me on yo have a look at my models . I had forgotten the Lima -09, 40, 60 ,66 and HST that I run along with 117 and I have a Hornby 101 that was originally Lima . So they were great suppliers of modern image at reasonable cost
I always found the Lima motors to be superior to the Hornby ringfield. Another issue with the Hornby diesel locos of the era is they had that annoying lean on them. Most of my diesels back in the day were Lima, Deltic, Western, 87 all very good models at the time. The fact that they are still running well all these years later means Lima did something right. Cheers Rick
@@wellchuffedrailways The Lima motors were better. They seemed to have more power and be less temperamental. Also Hornby motors tended to speed up dramatically as they warmed up (even the later China-made ringfield motors do it) which is really annoying re. control. The Lima ones did not do this nearly so much.
Cool video, as always. When you pick your favorites, what weight do you give to each factor, if you could quantify it... running quality, livery, class, etc.? I don't think I could pick 4 favorites, although, I have some that are current favorites.
Hi Anthony, with me it's purely a gut thing and in some cases the memory the loco brings. All my Lima models ran quite similarly due to having the same motor. So it's not really a weighted decision more of an emotional thing. I will do Wrenn next and see what that brings. Cheers for watching Rick.
@@wellchuffedrailways That's a brilliant answer. And I totally get it. Right now, this new little steamer I picked up has hit an emotional response because it seems like it is trying so hard to flex its muscles after not being used in 23 years and shaking off the cobwebs.
Unfortunately I don't yet have a Warship. It was hard to pick which 47 to go for as I have quite a few Lima ones. Same goes for the Westerns but I had Renown as a kid and it was one of my favourite locos back then. All the best Rick
Cheers Shaun, Scunthorpe would have worked but we would have missed out on the iconic car park! It's one of those films you never get tired of watching. Great cast, locations, script and music. It doesn't want for anything. ATB Rick
Nice to see Lima getting some attention. They made some good products over the years and were the only company in the 1970s/1980s (and beyond I would argue) that took modern image seriously. I really miss being able to buy new locos at such reasonable prices. Crude by today's standards of course but good enough for many modellers and notable for being tough, reliable and easy to work on. Not everything needs to be all-singing-and-dancing and mega expensive, there is definitely a place for simple and affordable.
Hi Paul, they are not too bad for the money. There are nice boxed ones out there for around £30. What I like is the amount of liveries available. Cheers Rick
I have quite a few Lima loco's Rick. The 37's do lack internal detail but make up for it on the outside 😀
Yes they aren't that bad really and the later ones have extra pick ups. Cheers Rick
All great choices, Rick. I’ve only recently delved into learning about British locomotive classes and nomenclature. Fascinating, and happy to say I recognized your models and understood what you were talking about!cheers, Andrew 🇨🇦
Hi Andrew, thanks for the feedback. All the best Rick
Great video again.
People soetimes tend to look down on Lima but it actually was quite a good brand with a decent amount of models for every modeller.
Perhaps not all that superbly detailed for some but in some cases they did better than other big brands and still decently priced.
In some countries bigger department stores sold Lima products under their own name, a great way to get started in the hobby.
The accessories were a class apart too, they had everything you could wish for and more.
Hi Ed, I always liked the Lima models and they have proved to be very durable. It says it all that when Hornby bought Lima that they used the Lima moulds to replace some of Hornbys own. Thanks for watching Rick
great video probably 95% off my locos are lima and have had them for over 40 years and they are still running wish lima were still around .like the the channel very informative
Thanks Geoffrey, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, we try to find a balance between being fun and informative. One thing I love about Lima models is the massive loco variations they did due to the limited production runs they were able to do. Thanks for watching Rick.
Very good video lima did do some good models 👍
Cheers Clive I always preferred them to Hornby back in the day
Another enjoyable video always look forward to seeing and listening to what you have to say, thank you both.👍
Thanks for watching Robert
Some fine models you have there Rick. I do like your ScotRail 47. Be good to see your Mainline collection too. Thanks for sharing, Steve.
Hi Steve, I don't actually have many Mainline locos, I'd say around 6 but apart from the Peaks they are not great runners. ☹️ I'm going to do Wrenn next which should be interesting. Apart from a couple they all run very well. Thanks for watching Rick
Hi there i love the old lima locomotives one of my favourites is the GWR rail car .they can be made to run nicely i found a great video on how to service them posted by model railway unlimited. Now mine run lovely happy modelling everyone 👍 😁
Cheers Anthony, I keep meaning to pick one up but something else always catches my eye!
I was getting concerned, until the final one, my own favourite. The Deltic. Superb in green livery. I have 5 various names. Great video.
I'm yet to get a green one which is kind of worrying as that is a great livery. Thanks for watching Rick
Nice models Rick I also like lima models got just over 100 models now always look at the expensive ones but when you see the price some hornby railroad models going past £100 pounds now and some of them are the lima body all the best 👍
Hi Michael, I can't fault the second hand values of Lima models, a bit of detailing and they look really good. Such a large choice of models as well. Cheers Rick
Hi guys, a great video. The 87 was my favourite, mainly because I don't have one. All the best guys. Carl
Hi Carl, you don't have one! Now that does surprise me! All the best Rick
Your piece made me find the opening and credit sequence to "Get Carter" and watch it for the unpteenth time - my second favourite film after The Dambusters". I could probably recite the dialogue for both films from memory if I tried hard. The theme music for the pair of them are also classics
Whoops - suppossed to be talking about trains - good choise of locos as well. Was "srandardisation " the word you were looking for?.
Hi Richard, it's a true classic and I have got the soundtrack which fits the film perfectly. I would love to know which Deltic is in the opening titles. Standardisation was the word I was looking for, thank you. The Dambusters is another classic that never gets old. Thanks for watching Rick
Yes my first Lima diesel was a western western renown paid £6.99p in Trent’s Reading in 1980 blimey ,you know Lina motors are so easy to maintain and made to run quieter OO bill has a tip by smoothing off the flash on the gear wheel makes a whole heap of difference ,saw 87005 racing through Willesden Junction it’s only 2miles to the north of me hear in W6 ,me and my brother would jump on a 220 and train spot there and the bus passed iron bridge on scrubs lane so we got off there my great late 😢 step dad would take us there nice memories now it’s the hitachi GWR depot former North Pole Eurostar depot and all Old Oak Common is a building site for HS2 etc skyscrapers everywhere there now I love progress but my memories have been bulldozed 😢😢
All the best to you all a big woof to Bobby from postman mark hehe
Mark 😊😊
Hi Mark, I've heard of the fix for the cogs but it was a long time ago and I've been meaning to try it on a loco. It wasn't 00Bill though, this was way before we started our channel when I first got back into model railways. I will have to hunt the channel out as it was pretty good. Nice to hear of your old adventures. Western Renown was one of my favourite models as a youngster and I have a photo of me running it as a kid somewhere. It was always a great runner and its replacement is just as good. Bobby says woof by the way! 🐕 All the best Rick
Always had a soft spot for the Lima class 37 a lot of loco for the money
Hi Deano not too bad are they.
Some good choices there guys, lima are an okay manufacturer i have a few of their models.
Thanks for watching Digger.
Get Carter. Superb. Especially when Alf Roberts gets chucked off the multi-storey.
Cheers Billy, I think Jack was working for Tesco. They actually knocked the car park down and built a supermarket!
Nice video. I'd include the class 20 in my list. Alongside the deltic they are my favourite diesels. The class 20 looks like a diesel version of a steam loco.....can and one end and a long "boiler" section. Always wondered if the designer was a big steam fan
Thanks Ian, yes 20s are the most steam-like of the diesels. I will pick one up someday. All the best Rick
Good to see some Lima locos. My Lima locos have all been reliable. If you get the class 52 Western bear in mind the one in sand livery has the wrong number. I still really like it though. Thanks for showing some great choices. Cheers Paul.
Hi Paul I have nearly bought the sand one on a couple of occasions and the seller did point out it's the wrong number. Not really bothered to be honest as it's a really nice livery. Hard to find a gold one though. All the best Rick.
I live in Australia
I love Lima stuff
Hi Rick and Pauline, good to see a new video.
One question, do all these models have this noisy typical Lima ring motor?
Personally not a big diesel fan, I only have two BR blue class 40's from Hornby, these where originally LIMA molds, the only thing Hornby did was to retool the motor, and got rid of the ring motor, good improvement.
They also come with DCC sound (the only models I have with a sound module, fun gadget, but in general too noisy for my taste)
My two diesels are the part of my track cleaning train, as they pull track cleaning wagons.
So when you see them going around it's maintenance time…
Cheers, Danny
Hi Danny, yes they do but the noise varies from loco to loco. The earlier models are quite for some reason. The noise can be reduced by filing some moulding bumps off the cogs. Personally I like the noise but it's not to everyone's taste including Pauline. I have a few retooled Hornby locos and the only difference seems to be the motors, pickups and couplings. All the best Rick
Good video thanks lee
Thanks Lee
The class 87 is electric, not diesel god get it right 🙄🤣 brilliant video as always you two! I got a Lima deltic thats silly smooth after giving the gears a good clean up of sprew and bits between the teeth, rebuilt it out of spares for a bargain
Should also say, lima locos with the cab right up and square to the buffers like the 87, 47, 52 and such have cab interior inserts because of the motor bogie needing room, but on those models they're just fortunate to have room to interiors while the 37 would be an awkward squeeze.
Lol there always one😂😂 yes I was having this conversation about the cab detail and motor room with Pauline. So at least we agree on something. The earlier model seems to be quieter but to be honest I don't mind the noise so I won't be bothering tinkering with them. Cheers for watching Rick.
Nice one . People are a bit sniffy about Lima models but they did the job and shook Hornby up because they were a little bit less expensive . I still have 37/47 and 87 s which I run . The only downside is they are very noisy - but not noisier than my Bachmann 158 that I’ve bought new for £280 ! If only Lima were still around now we would be having low cost 68s and multiple units
Nearly all my Lima diesels and electrics are quiet runners - mine are are second hand, but 2 are ex display and are a bit noisy. Suspect they just need running in and then a service. Very underrated by the purists but I've found them to be superb runners and crawlers.
Agreed. It's not just that Lima were cheaper than Hornby though, they had a more comprehensive range of modern image locos and modelled many smaller, less well-known classes that the steam-oriented competition did not bother with, e.g. 50, 73, 33, 26, 27, GWR Railcar etc. Also their mouldings tended to be better than Hornby's, many of which had become outdated and toylike even by 1980s standards. It is a testament to Lima tooling that some of the bodies are still offered in the Hornby Railroad range today, ~40 years on.
@@paulc9588 yes . I have a Railroad 47 which still looks good , but with updated mechanism . This video dpurred me on yo have a look at my models . I had forgotten the Lima -09, 40, 60 ,66 and HST that I run along with 117 and I have a Hornby 101 that was originally Lima . So they were great suppliers of modern image at reasonable cost
I always found the Lima motors to be superior to the Hornby ringfield. Another issue with the Hornby diesel locos of the era is they had that annoying lean on them. Most of my diesels back in the day were Lima, Deltic, Western, 87 all very good models at the time. The fact that they are still running well all these years later means Lima did something right. Cheers Rick
@@wellchuffedrailways The Lima motors were better. They seemed to have more power and be less temperamental. Also Hornby motors tended to speed up dramatically as they warmed up (even the later China-made ringfield motors do it) which is really annoying re. control. The Lima ones did not do this nearly so much.
Cool video, as always. When you pick your favorites, what weight do you give to each factor, if you could quantify it... running quality, livery, class, etc.? I don't think I could pick 4 favorites, although, I have some that are current favorites.
Hi Anthony, with me it's purely a gut thing and in some cases the memory the loco brings. All my Lima models ran quite similarly due to having the same motor. So it's not really a weighted decision more of an emotional thing. I will do Wrenn next and see what that brings. Cheers for watching Rick.
@@wellchuffedrailways That's a brilliant answer. And I totally get it. Right now, this new little steamer I picked up has hit an emotional response because it seems like it is trying so hard to flex its muscles after not being used in 23 years and shaking off the cobwebs.
looking forward to the Wrenn
Already filmed! It will be in the next well chuffed vlog. Cheers Rick
Get Carter, classic film!
The best!
Oh no, you missed a class 42 Warship. 😢 but you did choose a 52 western, so I'm only slightly offended😂
Unfortunately I don't yet have a Warship. It was hard to pick which 47 to go for as I have quite a few Lima ones. Same goes for the Westerns but I had Renown as a kid and it was one of my favourite locos back then. All the best Rick
@@wellchuffedrailways🤔 I would have the same problem if somebody said choose your 5 favourite diesel locos. 👍
L have Lima class 26 and class 27 diesels
Hi Keith I've seen a few and they look pretty good.
hands down the 87
Good choice Neil. Cheers Rick
Was meant to be filmed in scunthorpe but they couldnt get permission from local authorities 😢 - great video and movie reference ❤
Cheers Shaun, Scunthorpe would have worked but we would have missed out on the iconic car park! It's one of those films you never get tired of watching. Great cast, locations, script and music. It doesn't want for anything. ATB Rick