A little insight into your preparation. During the Cold War, when everyone was tearing up their armies, we Finns bought your equipment at a bargain price. Every year, Finland trains new soldiers as much as you have an active military - for decades. And 80% of its citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves if a superior enemy attacks our homeland.
Do you really think Finland have chance against Russia? Even if you will have more than million soldiers you can't produce ammunition and all equipment in same rate. Better do not provoke Russia.
I don't know about the eagerness to sacrifice but Finland for sure has prepared for total defense and has trained generations of military against Russian invasion.
That pamphlet is a reprint from the 70s/80s and probably later versions. But there's some added information that wasn't in the older versions. It's not about fear, it's abut preparedness. Not a big deal at all.
- "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness" ??? - It must have been very hard for Roundtable to "collect NORDIC PEOPLE to verify/Unverify that headline, hence only 1, a Swede was present in this forum, so, as a Dane I will conclude, that this program WAS NOT ABOUT: "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness", but almost every one elses idea of whats going on in the Nordic Nations & there own. _ Its NOT completly impossible to get informations regarding whats being planned right now in the Nordic Nations, - they do publicize at LOT about what they plan to do in the near future, if thise projects is warmongering/owerreaction/scared, then I would say, that I want my government to: CONFRONT THE THREATH WE ARE FACING, thats why I have electet them, and pay a high tax, and let me ad, For now, in the short term I am satisfied with what my government, - have done, and plan/will do - and it seems logic to me. - Now let "round" that issui of "a wish" for friendly commercial relations with your neighbour, - A wish I agree upon, but only if that neighbour also, as me is friendly and thrustworty, if thats not the case, to me it would be outright STUPID NOT to do "some preparations", especially if your a politician electet to TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE, let me also ad that as of NOW, UN Security Council is a NON OPERATIONAL COUNCIEL, so rellying on that organ to solve security problems, is in my opinion PURE NAITIVITISM. Lets see if you, ROUNDTABLE are worth the time I have spend to write this comment. Anders Eriksen
What threats are you facing really? The sun will explode, meteor is falling over Denmark, an airplane will fall over your house, a new covid? Threats is everywhere. How likely, that is the question.? Russia is planning to invade Denmark ? Oh boy.
"Nordic" is not only Sweden. I am Swedish but some, the Finns, have been prepared/realistic all along. I remember when the Berlin wall came down and we thought it was going to be all good from now on but.. alas it was not to last.
There have been a myriad of articles and TV reportages of "Finland preparing bomb shelters for war" or "Sweden preparing citizens for war" after spring 2022. Finland has been preparing from 1945, and Sweden also has a long history in civil defense. This is just the first time in several decades when the international media is interested in the Nordic/Baltic seturity policy and civil defense. Some of the journalists who wrote those stories hardly knew there is a country named Finland prior to 2022 and the Finnish and Swedish Nato application. It is very unlikely (although not impossible) that Russia would launch a large scale military (kinetic) attack against a NATO country any time in the near future, because this would certainly launch the Nato article 5. But Russia is very likely to continue their hybrid warfare, even escalate it, including sabotages and cyber attacks. Many hybrid attacks have similar effects in civilian population as military attacks. Therefore, preparing civilian population for war is also preparing for hybrid threats. Every normal human being, military or civilian, feels fear when when their live and the lives of their loved ones are threatened. Having knowledge and training helps to ease the unnecessary, irrational fear. All European countries should inform their population about what to do in crisis situations, no matter if the crisis is a natural disaster, accident, sabotage or war.
Making up news of pretty much nothing.. That pamphlet they are referring to has been published in different editions since WWII. This is just another update. Ofcourse, since (unlike the Finns) put down our civil defence authorities in the 2000's, it needs to be rebuilt. & We also need to rebuild our defence a bit. But it's a lot less dramatic than it's made out to be here..🧐 All this we have done before, & now we will do it again..
you have a digital gun registry, russians know every (legal) weapon in sweden and you banned most weapons of military value (semi automatic rifles), and what you have left of an army are small, if the russians allies with the muslims (like turkey/iran, which is exactly what they do) you have a million insurgents inside sweden... youre toast.
@@arneedlund8512 Dont put your trust in anything in this world, trust in Jesus Christ, rapture of his blood bought church is getting close. PS: Jeg er norsk.
Well we are all Europeans but of course we can't trust the Americans so it's probably good to prepare. But what about economic and diplomatic warfare. Also do we need a common paramilitary squad. Maybe we should form a sort of European CIA with a paramilitary wing, a diplomatic war wing, and economic war wing. I'm willing to form the whole organisation and hand it over once someone suitable to run it can be found. I'll be sort of like the Allen Dulles of said organisation.
If you don't understand why Russia is in Ukraine then you can call Washington and arsk what they say if China build military bases in Mexico. And next time USA invade a country Russia can give this country wapens to attack inside USA right stop this nonsens
Allen Dulles was a war mongering monster. And made a fortune off the death and destruction of countries. HOW ABOUT DIPLOMACY? HOWABOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE?
It is about Norway being richest country per capita in the World because of Russian aggression in Ukraine and Not about Russian aggression on Nordic countries.
Rusia is so weak to invade another country and even after 1000 days Rusia still harping on the small land size captured from Ukraine border and how many of you think Rusia can win over this war and invade.>??????? come on please wake up..
NATO is preparing not for defense, but for invasion. Russia is provoked and forced to attack one of the NATO countries, followed by a full-scale NATO invasion of Russia. Russia's unprovoked invasion of NATO is nonsense. NATO is too strong and big. but NATO can afford it. but wants to remain pure in history.
Ageing demographics. Where are the soldiers to come from considering just a conventional war (Russia vs NATO) ? 500k casualties minimum. The immigrants welcomed in Europe (hated at the same time), to bolster the workforce will not fight.
It's a mistake for Finland and Sweden to break away from neutrality. If you install missiles in your territories, it attracts a first response. This may not be a conventional weapon for which you are readying.
It was not a mistake. Ruzzians trying to expand westwards Would be a mistake.🧐 Keep in mind Finland & Sweden has had to deal with the Muscovites for centuries, this time we will have more allies.
Nobody in Finland and Sweden trusts those fascist Russians. Better to be under nuclear umbrella of NATO of 32 nations. Russia just postures, it is a backward developing nation.
Russia telling us what we can do or not was the big mistake. It forced our hands. I whoud prefer IF we had been really neutral like Switzerland but that was given up already after WW2. We have never had nuclear weapons so when being threathened with them we kind of have to try look for something. Use your rubels while they still have meaningful value left dear.
How about using diplomatic means, considering that Putin was in the beginning 100% ready to join the Western world, G8, Nato, the EU and so on. Why don't you start asking yourselves why nobody was willing to take him seriously? Why the US didn't help Russia in the same way as all other former Soviet countries and threw them into the most devastating economic depression ever experienced in the modern world?
It was pure racism and cultural hatred against RF. In 2010 Putin asked for Russia to integrate NATO and they refused. This could have secured world peace for generations
As an Estonian I see how much preparedness has improved since Feb 2022. As British (dual national) I see how remote the British society is from the topic. Why on Earth ask a clown like Lembit Öpik, who is as removed from Estonia as an average German from Australia. He didn’t say anything, only parroted Kremlin talking points - the conflict between Estonia and Russia is in no one’s interest, blah-blah. You could have chosen a local expert on the topic, not a generalist past politician.
"Apparently only the Nordic contracts are sane"I thought this until that woman mentioned that they are worried about their pets in case of war. Apparently Europe is insane and irrational!
well, if know already what to do ourselves, can't we care for the furry ones as well? lol. We do have civil defense shelter in every apartment building in Finland, but they unfortunately cannot house pets. And it's just a fact of life people need to make those tough decisions of leaving their pets behind. Sure if was a bit funny to mentioned it on the tv, but you're over reacting. Although... your profile is made in 2022 and it's pretty empty. So are you a Russian bot?
@iam5085 Putin started? You clearly have no clue about the subject. Your sources are sure limited to the comedian with an expired presidential mandate or straight from the pentagon. Get better informed and grow up!
@@fingerprint8479 You are truly something else! Didn't Russia attack Ukraine? You seem to think that it didn't... Please give some proof of that! PS. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.
No 😅, the war in Ukraine is the reason why Nato is now larger than ever. Without it, Finland could have the next invasion target, but we are now safe - never alone anymore. Russia needs to just cope, 'there is a reaction for every (stupid) action'.
A little insight into your preparation. During the Cold War, when everyone was tearing up their armies, we Finns bought your equipment at a bargain price. Every year, Finland trains new soldiers as much as you have an active military - for decades. And 80% of its citizens are ready to sacrifice themselves if a superior enemy attacks our homeland.
Do you really think Finland have chance against Russia? Even if you will have more than million soldiers you can't produce ammunition and all equipment in same rate. Better do not provoke Russia.
We will never forgive Finland for Linux
Finland has never faced an "Superior" enemy. The Russians are that bad.
I don't know about the eagerness to sacrifice but Finland for sure has prepared for total defense and has trained generations of military against Russian invasion.
That pamphlet is a reprint from the 70s/80s and probably later versions. But there's some added information that wasn't in the older versions. It's not about fear, it's abut preparedness. Not a big deal at all.
I don't have my childhood papers but cyber atatcks and IT seesm to be teh only new part.
Nordic nations. Prime example of almost perfect nations
Sweden is not neutral and has not been since 1939. Sweden actively supported Norway and Finland during WW2. Sweden is also a NATO member.
You should probably also mention that they actively supported the Nazi war effort by trading with them.
@@Emanon...That what small nations has to do to surviv
- "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness" ??? - It must have been very hard for Roundtable to "collect NORDIC PEOPLE to verify/Unverify that headline, hence only 1, a Swede was present in this forum, so, as a Dane I will conclude, that this program WAS NOT ABOUT: "Nordic nations on alert: From neutrality to war preparedness", but almost every one elses idea of whats going on in the Nordic Nations & there own.
_ Its NOT completly impossible to get informations regarding whats being planned right now in the Nordic Nations, - they do publicize at LOT about what they plan to do in the near future, if thise projects is warmongering/owerreaction/scared, then I would say, that I want my government to: CONFRONT THE THREATH WE ARE FACING, thats why I have electet them, and pay a high tax, and let me ad, For now, in the short term I am satisfied with what my government, - have done, and plan/will do - and it seems logic to me.
- Now let "round" that issui of "a wish" for friendly commercial relations with your neighbour, - A wish I agree upon, but only if that neighbour also, as me is friendly and thrustworty, if thats not the case, to me it would be outright STUPID NOT to do "some preparations", especially if your a politician electet to TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE, let me also ad that as of NOW, UN Security Council is a NON OPERATIONAL COUNCIEL, so rellying on that organ to solve security problems, is in my opinion PURE NAITIVITISM.
Lets see if you, ROUNDTABLE are worth the time I have spend to write this comment.
Anders Eriksen
What threats are you facing really? The sun will explode, meteor is falling over Denmark, an airplane will fall over your house, a new covid? Threats is everywhere. How likely, that is the question.? Russia is planning to invade Denmark ? Oh boy.
Support from Latvia 🇱🇻
No fear! Fight!
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"Nordic" is not only Sweden. I am Swedish but some, the Finns, have been prepared/realistic all along. I remember when the Berlin wall came down and we thought it was going to be all good from now on but.. alas it was not to last.
Btw, I am Swedish, a sweet dish! 🤣😂👍😁🩷😎💚🎯
I'm Swedish and I can say that we are not close to being ready 😄
Swedish citizen as well and you're 100% right
well we are ready in finland no worries my friend
Precis. De flesta gör ff ingenting.
As a Dane I don't recognize this - we do nothing here we almost don't even have a military our ships have no missiles and we have no artillery
You are russian
And you didnt in ww2 either.😮
Nice speech, Lembit Öpik
There have been a myriad of articles and TV reportages of "Finland preparing bomb shelters for war" or "Sweden preparing citizens for war" after spring 2022. Finland has been preparing from 1945, and Sweden also has a long history in civil defense. This is just the first time in several decades when the international media is interested in the Nordic/Baltic seturity policy and civil defense. Some of the journalists who wrote those stories hardly knew there is a country named Finland prior to 2022 and the Finnish and Swedish Nato application.
It is very unlikely (although not impossible) that Russia would launch a large scale military (kinetic) attack against a NATO country any time in the near future, because this would certainly launch the Nato article 5. But Russia is very likely to continue their hybrid warfare, even escalate it, including sabotages and cyber attacks.
Many hybrid attacks have similar effects in civilian population as military attacks. Therefore, preparing civilian population for war is also preparing for hybrid threats.
Every normal human being, military or civilian, feels fear when when their live and the lives of their loved ones are threatened. Having knowledge and training helps to ease the unnecessary, irrational fear. All European countries should inform their population about what to do in crisis situations, no matter if the crisis is a natural disaster, accident, sabotage or war.
Are they going to war against each other again?
Making up news of pretty much nothing.. That pamphlet they are referring to has been published in different editions since WWII. This is just another update. Ofcourse, since (unlike the Finns) put down our civil defence authorities in the 2000's, it needs to be rebuilt. & We also need to rebuild our defence a bit. But it's a lot less dramatic than it's made out to be here..🧐 All this we have done before, & now we will do it again..
Wait until Trump pulls the USA out of NATO. You really think Russia is not going to take advantage of that?
We swedes will never give up 💪🏻
Ha ha ha, we did when we join Nato 👎
you have a digital gun registry, russians know every (legal) weapon in sweden and you banned most weapons of military value (semi automatic rifles), and what you have left of an army are small, if the russians allies with the muslims (like turkey/iran, which is exactly what they do) you have a million insurgents inside sweden... youre toast.
@@ixoye56 No. We reload.
@@someonethatisachristianyes, we are toast 😢
@@arneedlund8512 Dont put your trust in anything in this world, trust in Jesus Christ, rapture of his blood bought church is getting close. PS: Jeg er norsk.
A very intelligent system to create fear deep inside the soul. A very sad story who takes five generetions to remove this fear.
Well we are all Europeans but of course we can't trust the Americans so it's probably good to prepare. But what about economic and diplomatic warfare. Also do we need a common paramilitary squad. Maybe we should form a sort of European CIA with a paramilitary wing, a diplomatic war wing, and economic war wing. I'm willing to form the whole organisation and hand it over once someone suitable to run it can be found. I'll be sort of like the Allen Dulles of said organisation.
If you don't understand why Russia is in Ukraine then you can call Washington and arsk what they say if China build military bases in Mexico. And next time USA invade a country Russia can give this country wapens to attack inside USA right stop this nonsens
Allen Dulles was a war mongering monster. And made a fortune off the death and destruction of countries. HOW ABOUT DIPLOMACY? HOWABOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE?
It is about Norway being richest country per capita in the World because of Russian aggression in Ukraine
and Not about Russian aggression on Nordic countries.
The ORCS have been a punchline for 3 years 😂😂😂
Rusia is so weak to invade another country and even after 1000 days Rusia still harping on the small land size captured from Ukraine border and how many of you think Rusia can win over this war and invade.>??????? come on please wake up..
NATO is preparing not for defense, but for invasion. Russia is provoked and forced to attack one of the NATO countries, followed by a full-scale NATO invasion of Russia. Russia's unprovoked invasion of NATO is nonsense. NATO is too strong and big. but NATO can afford it. but wants to remain pure in history.
Ageing demographics. Where are the soldiers to come from considering just a conventional war (Russia vs NATO) ? 500k casualties minimum. The immigrants welcomed in Europe (hated at the same time), to bolster the workforce will not fight.
Yeah 3 day's of supplies should do it. Get real people this is total fear mongering.
Put some ice in your helmet 😂
They were no match against the North Korean special forces in Ukraine.
It's a mistake for Finland and Sweden to break away from neutrality. If you install missiles in your territories, it attracts a first response. This may not be a conventional weapon for which you are readying.
Psst network of 54 000 of Nuclear shelters for whole population of civilians dig since 60's. So what are you planing to do habib ?
It was not a mistake. Ruzzians trying to expand westwards Would be a mistake.🧐 Keep in mind Finland & Sweden has had to deal with the Muscovites for centuries, this time we will have more allies.
@@leifiseland1218okay..
Nobody in Finland and Sweden trusts those fascist Russians. Better to be under nuclear umbrella of NATO of 32 nations. Russia just postures, it is a backward developing nation.
Russia telling us what we can do or not was the big mistake. It forced our hands. I whoud prefer IF we had been really neutral like Switzerland but that was given up already after WW2. We have never had nuclear weapons so when being threathened with them we kind of have to try look for something.
Use your rubels while they still have meaningful value left dear.
oerchè non ocmbattono gli invasori afro islamici?
How about using diplomatic means, considering that Putin was in the beginning 100% ready to join the Western world, G8, Nato, the EU and so on. Why don't you start asking yourselves why nobody was willing to take him seriously? Why the US didn't help Russia in the same way as all other former Soviet countries and threw them into the most devastating economic depression ever experienced in the modern world?
It was pure racism and cultural hatred against RF. In 2010 Putin asked for Russia to integrate NATO and they refused. This could have secured world peace for generations
😂 Fearmongering 😂
The never ending proxy ⁉️
There's too much info on the internet for you to lie said. Julian Assange 😂
Russia needs bosporus
Russia needs the EU and the US to stop trying to destroy her.
The us at work bringing fear and war to a neighborhood near you.😮
No that's Russia , you must drink Putins milk? Lol
As an Estonian I see how much preparedness has improved since Feb 2022. As British (dual national) I see how remote the British society is from the topic. Why on Earth ask a clown like Lembit Öpik, who is as removed from Estonia as an average German from Australia. He didn’t say anything, only parroted Kremlin talking points - the conflict between Estonia and Russia is in no one’s interest, blah-blah. You could have chosen a local expert on the topic, not a generalist past politician.
No worries in Sweden they have Pride parade military.. 🤣🤣🤣
These are the consequences of joining NATO. Neutrality to war otherwise Neutrality to NATO
RESIST ALL CONSCRIPTION ENSLAVEMENT.
Nordic countries 😂
wow NATO membership worked well 👍👍👍
"Apparently only the Nordic contracts are sane"I thought this until that woman mentioned that they are worried about their pets in case of war. Apparently Europe is insane and irrational!
Not insane, thorough.
Finns are certainly not afraid. Most consider Russian army to be crappier than it was during Winter War and Continuation War over 80 years ago.
well, if know already what to do ourselves, can't we care for the furry ones as well? lol. We do have civil defense shelter in every apartment building in Finland, but they unfortunately cannot house pets. And it's just a fact of life people need to make those tough decisions of leaving their pets behind. Sure if was a bit funny to mentioned it on the tv, but you're over reacting.
Although... your profile is made in 2022 and it's pretty empty. So are you a Russian bot?
From the safety of neutrality to top on the Russian list for preemptive nuclear demolition...
What a stupid decision!
Are you commenting about the war Putin started? It was indeed very stupid.
@iam5085 Putin started?
You clearly have no clue about the subject.
Your sources are sure limited to the comedian with an expired presidential mandate or straight from the pentagon.
Get better informed and grow up!
@@fingerprint8479 LMAO, calmn down, even a child knows what i told is true.
@@fingerprint8479 You are truly something else!
Didn't Russia attack Ukraine? You seem to think that it didn't... Please give some proof of that!
PS. I won't hold my breath waiting for it.
@@iam5085 Sure, a Child exposed to western propaganda will sure be dumb enough to align with your nonsense! Hahahaha Hahahaha
Consequences of joining NATO under US hegemony
Consequences of Trump pulling out of NATO you mean. When has a NATO member last been attacked and who was it? 9-11 USA attack. That's about all.
No 😅, the war in Ukraine is the reason why Nato is now larger than ever. Without it, Finland could have the next invasion target, but we are now safe - never alone anymore. Russia needs to just cope, 'there is a reaction for every (stupid) action'.
😂😂😂😂😂
Nordic nations. Prime example of almost perfect nations