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- Surefire X640DF + Button and Plug Adapter
Rangenord Shotgun Shell Holder + Mlok Screws
Left Side Armory Hand Stop
Eotech EXPS3-0
Midwest Industries Benelli M4 Handguard (Long)
Midwest Industries Benelli M4 Charging Handle
Briley EZ Bolt Release Handle
GG&G Benelli M4 Mag Tube Follower
Choate Tool + 2 Mag Extension
There isn’t any videos saying these are bad bc the people who buy this shit go to the range once every 10 years. $350 sums it up, you get what you pay for
Surprise surprise ive shot now 1200 rounds thru it the last 400 being federal shotshells (1200fps) in the last week and a half not a single jam or failure to feed. Im not one to praise cheap guns but i will if it deserves it. Look at it like this, when a glock 19 can run steel cased ammo but a CZ Shadow 2 cant, with the CZ costing 3x more, sometimes u gotta think to yourself and remind yourself not everything with a high price tag is good itself lmao. I love my $$$ guns but give respect where its due
@@vietnamtactical our clone gave out in 480 rounds, after making a video on it addressing the issue the “owner”/manager of panzer called me letting me know it’s my fault & the video needs taken down. I realize this is a different brand but just like James Reeves video today.. These are moments away from breaking. That’s why they are $350 not $1800. You did a great review, however these are junk & you get what you pay for
@@vietnamtactical for the record Glock over any pistol,price isn’t always a factor.. Time is. It’s simple…how long has this gun and model proven its reliability?
@foxf6 i mentioned panzer sucking as well, theres a reason reputable companies like midwest and agency support this clone in particular. Again mine has 1200 rounds thru it and im planning to run another 200 this sunday. I havent cleaned this thing or taken care of it in any way. You cant tell me this particular clone is bad with no proof behind it. Your proof being 1 out of hundreds of clones not doing so well, not even the clone shown in the video.
@@vietnamtactical well the good news is you get a 1 year warranty with it because even the people making it know after a year it’s your problem. once again great review. When you decide you like shotguns get a real M4. Cheers
I'm so glad to see fresh faces on gun videos. Usually it is videos with old white guys like me in them. Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc Americans is what we need. We all enjoy our firearms. Please keep putting videos out for us.
Will do brotha
I want a MAC1014 now. And the pricepoint has me really wanting it.
$370 is really cheap for something this well built
@@vietnamtactical I wonder if it's banned in Illinois.
It shouldnt be, technically it only has a capacity of 5 shots. Ofc u can change that with parts. I think every state this is legal
@vietnamtactical Is the stock telescoping? And is the grip a pistol grip? Because I think that would make it a prohibited item.
You can buy the version that doesnt have a telescoping stock, i believe its cheaper as well. Look up MAC1014 they sell 4 variants
I bought my m4 and honestly kind of regret spending as much as I did. I feel like if I bought the clone tricked it out how I want, and bought a ton of shells for practice. Rather than just have a nice stock gun. Pretty much your exact summary. Good video and you got a nice personal kit. Have fun.
Exactly my thinking when i got this
I used the Benelli M4 during my time in the Military and it had all sort of issues when it was loaded with both 00 Buck and Slugs it would shoot the buckshot ok and the slugs but the transition it would always JAM and it was not a Maintenance issue I keep my M4 clean and lubed. I decided to get the Beretta 1301 Tactical Mod 2 when it came out earlier this year and after removing the Plastic Parts that Beretta put in mainly the Charging Handle, Magazine Tube Cover and Barrel and Mag Tube Clamp that were replaced with GGG Aluminum parts. I also added the Toni System MLok Handguard and Mesa Tactical RMR Mount/Side Saddle that are attached to the receiver at the top via three screws used by the OEM Picatinny Rail. Since Beretta Group own Benelli and Franchi they have decided to divide the Shotgun Market this way Benelli gets Military and LEO, Franchi Sportsmen Skeet and Trap plus Birds and Beretta does a little of each. When the 1301 Tactical was released about 10 years ago I had a feeling that properly setup it could be a Benelli M4 Killer and now that the Mod 2 is out with the new Lifter and loading port widen to aid for faster reloads the 1301 is ready.
Putting that much into a Clone I believe is Crazy don't get me wrong I like MAC I own one of their JSOC 1911 and is one of my favorite 1911 even if it only cost me about third of my SIG, Springfield and Smith and Wesson 1911s that are setup in a similar manner. I have seen too many of the M4 Clones just DIE at my Gun Club and since I am one of the resident Gunsmiths that normally carries a tool kit in my Jeep the issues have been everything from broken parts to just bad heat treatment and warped barrels and receivers after using 3 inch shells. I have not seen a MAC or the Panzer Arms another Clone Model that has a Speed Pro that is designed for the 3 Gun Crown but would probably make a good home defense shotgun if it turns to be a good clone but time will tell.
Parts list in the description
Please post a long term review at some point. I love the idea of ballin on a budget and still getting something reliable at the end of the day.
I'm actually glad I'm not the only one who has put some money into one of these shotguns under my testing its ran amazing I have had 1 malfunction in the years I have had it and it was when I first bought it and was breaking it in I have ran birdshot, 00 buckshot, target shells, and slugs with no malfunction since and have cleaned it 1 times in the 1 years I've had it for and for anyone wondering Its not exact I have shot a total of 2k or more shells of all kinds soo if you ever want one and don't want to spend stupid money get one.
Seven words that make algorithms love You.
Nice review, I went and bought both the m2 and m1014 because of you.I replaced the shell lifters ,charging handles and safties on both so far. I prefer the ghost ring sights and I prefer replacing the magazine tube with one piece 7 round tubes. I also prefer the Nordic large button bolt release
Great to hear!
it’s all about customizing because you can have a bad gun but once you customize it, it can come out good and you can use it better
Like you I initially got the MAC 1014 as a rane toy to see how I liked the M4 design and functionality. I figured for $370 what the heck. If I loved the gun but it wasn't reliable I would get a real Benelli M4. However, the 1014 turned out to be 100% reliable. I kept mine stock except for the oversized bolt handle. I figure if 5+1 of 12 gauge is not enough I'm probably doing something really really wrong. :-)
@@eosjoe565 good stuff brotha👌
I was having a hard time debating on a shotgun to get but you sold me on this one! With me also becoming a gunsmith if it’s got issues I have the knowledge to fix em’
This thing even runs 1200 FPS cheap walmart shotshells its valid for sure. Just need to break it in with higher loads before the shotshells will run
@@vietnamtactical noted well, i appreciate this very much and of course you also have another subscriber!
From experience, well worth the price including the upgrades
Excellent video. I like your setup! Nice shotgun. 👍
Appreciate it👌
" I own this gun great so far 1000+ rounds and no failures yet, You stated that 5+1 isn't enough but your know if you ghost load you can get 2 more for a total 8, That's more than enough for most situations ".
I've been thinking about a Turknelli myself but the Orthos S4 seems to be the best option and it's basically fully loaded to start with.
S4 is def the best turknelli
Amazing build, that Bolt Release Handle is half of the gun itself lmaoo😭😲
Also how many rounds it takes to break in? 100?
Around 30-40 2-3/4” slugs after that it ran cheap walmart ammo fine
I ended up going w Rev Arms S4 from Atlantic (ported barrel, seems like it's the base model Orthos M4 is based on) and going w same hardguard. Thanks for the helpful Videos on the Turkish special.
How has the S4 treated you so far?
I had thought about getting a Turknelli but went with the Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol
I heard beretta is killing it with their shot guns
@@vietnamtactical I really like mine. If the 1301 was cheaper, I would have gotten that.
Beautiful piece of hardware brother
The surefire really sent this budget over the top. I'd probably just use a $100 Streamlight Rail mount 1. It has a more suitable beam pattern for a shotgun. You can also find extended bolt releases for a lot cheaper. On the bright side if you do a higher end AR build you have a surefire for it.
@@dirtycommtroop 😭😭
I’m not sure what you do for work but love the collection. Some pricey firearms🤘🏻🤘🏻
I have a buddy who bought a real M4 and the story goes it was sold to a local gun store broken and he was friends with the owner and bought it for just over $1K and built it from that
Yooo thanks for the drop been waiting for this one!!
Just cerakote it and no one would ever know. 😂 nah i love the fact that there are clones coming out now days! Seems like they are getting better and better. Only reason i haven't done one is cause i have a vepr, and komrad mag feds and also a 1301. But i still dont shoot shotgun as much now days.
With that 1301 you dont need anything else haha
NIce purchase and set up. I just ordered the wood stock version from buds. Thanks for the video
Mac1014 & Mac 2 is being used by agency arms. These are definately not underrated. 1014 has issue with low brass but the actual benelli m4 also it isn't ment for low brass loads, imaging john wick using bird shot😂, Mac 2 on the other hand, after a break in period it will eat anything. These tools should be in every american household like ketchup. 🇺🇸
Yeah someone said to buy the orthos raider “its better” i was a bit confused since im very sure its just an overpriced cerakoted mac1014 haha
@kevinm8993 the M1014 and the Mac1014 are not the same thing. Agency Arms is customizing Benellis not MACs.
@Lobster_Tube agency arms does both. Also overpriced both.
Hey dude you should look into getting the Taran tactical extended lifter for it, it makes a would of difference loading it so your thumb doesn't get caught in it.
@@claytonmadox i got it👌
@@vietnamtactical Nice!
Nice setup. I have my Benelli M4 Entry outfitted with Eotech EXPS2 (people smirk at me when I pull the shotgun with a bigass optic out at the range but why tf not?), Mesa Tactical 8-shell side saddle, Strike Industries Barrel Clamp for mounting the SureFire M640 Dual Fuel, and top it off with ESD sling. The whole thing is heavy af, tho 😅.
I got a really good deal for some of the accessories since my LGS was out of business then, so my whole setup with a 200$ tax stamp is $2402.
Eotechs have probably the best reticle for shotguns its essentially aimbot i respect the choice the haters are stuck trying to co-witness the iron sights with an aimpoint t2, but who in the world would need to use back up irons on a shotgun. If your dot went out and the only thing you have is a shotgun close range its a shotgun long range wheres your backup weapon haha
Got a very similar setup but ran a Vortex Viper red dot on mine to reduce weigh and cost. Gone through boxes of low brass for trap shooting (Turkish guns have had issues with low brass) But not this one. Never had a jam on it. Haters are just mad they paid 3-4x for their M4. I'm sure the Benelli's will run thousands of rounds... if you're planning to go to war then sure. But for an everyday shooter. The Mac 1014 is solid. I would trust my life with it at home and for hunting. Plus every gun breaks down... even the Benelli. I've seen those have the same issues as the Turkish shot guns. Look at it this way. If Benelli's patent expired and all these "junk" clones came out... why would Benelli come out with the new M4 model. It's because they know the clones are getting just as good as theirs and they need a way to recover that lost revenue from the clones taking a chunk of their pie. It's that simple.
Its insane how reliable its been. I have to go to texas to film the rest of the review but for sure great for the price
Well done
Thanks!
yo i picked up the marine 1014 and the fit and finish is 10/10. imma KISS with this one with tool-less teardown so kinda ruled out the MI handguard even though it looks sick.
Great choice brotha
Love your videos!!!
I appreciate it brotha
I’m about to pull the trigger on a Benelli clone, but I have to ask: why did you go for the MAC 1014 over the more popular Panzer M4? Also, is the stock collapsible from the factory? Is the barrel chrome lined like the Benelli and the Panzer?
The barrel is chrome lined, but the stock is not collapsible. The MAC1014 is like stated has a better reputation than the panzer M4. Its built better and according to multiple sources runs longer than the panzer as well. Id get this over the panzer 100%
@@vietnamtactical Thanks for the quick response! That settles it, then. I'll be ordering mine right now. A couple more questions: Is the tube underneath the stock notched or smooth? I want to add collapsible stock from the M4 and want to know if the tube would be compatible. Secondly, I am ordering the marine coated version and want a magazine extension. Will the Panzer M4 marine extension work with the OEM spring? I saw that the extension MAC sells has a different spring included, but they only come in black.
I have both the MAC 1014 and one of the new Panzer M4 "Speed" models. The Panzer functions okay but the fit and finish on the MAC is simply a bit better. Not a major difference but when you handle the two side by side the MAC just feels like a higher quality firearm. It seems the metallurgy on these Turkish guns has improved quite a bit over the past few years.
Definitely should make a community discord so people can branch out and show off cool shit and what not. I'd join something like that.
Hmm good idea ill think about it
Just subbed, love this thxs bro
Appreciate it!
Cool vid and weapon!!!!!
Give me a light and some ghost rings. Breach some doors, toss a 9 bangerand call it day. Them ducks and geese will see some tactishiit
I just started see these mac 1014, in vedios, they shoot real good, 360 bucks for semi auto, tactical, i just spent 430 for a 12 ga. Mossberg shockwave, hmm, mite get one of these,
Definitely great for the price
hello may be i will use end user certificate
your setup is nice brah
Oh yeah baby the scatter gattttt
gonna copy this! thanks!
nevermind, that handaguard is 2/3 the price of the gun
@@xdivineHART everything was kind of a lot on the setup haha, handguard is worth it tho $180’s not bad at all
I'm still between the MLOK guard and stippling the guards that come with the M4. How annoying is to field strip with the MLOK guard?
Its not too bad just takes a bit of time and its just as much as stippling or more depending on who you go to. Also takes less time than if you were to stipple it yourself
Great video, bro.
I've been considering getting a good budget semi auto shotgun.
Like you, I'm not a big fan of shotguns, but I want to add one to my self-defense collection.
I probably won't put more than 300 to 500 through it yearly, so I don't want to spend a mint on it. Lol!
Would the MAC 1014 be a good reliable inexpensive choice for me in your opinion?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Stay safe and healthy.
Peace
Id say this is the best turk made m4 on the market besides the orthos
@vietnamtactical
Thanks.
Appreciated the your input.
😎👍
How easy was it to swap the handguard?
Pretty easy, it was a bit complicated getting the retention loop to sit flush but at the end of the day a youtube tutorial is better than trying to do it yourself like i did haha
why dont you do more videos shooting id like to see this thing running. Sick build
Working on a 2000 round test rn
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How terious would repairs be in the off chance of the gun breaks? Would buying a replacement just suftice? Asking as a non-american
Not sure about yall but if there were parts that broke this guns is 98% interchangeable with a benelli M4 so as bank breaking as itd be to repair at least you now have a genuine war proven benelli part in it as a replacement
@@vietnamtactical glad to see the parts are very available compared to other industries gatekeeping consumer's ability to repair
Nice setup. Can you ghost load the MAC 1014?
@@EDBPVIDEO yes you can
Dude that’s cool as fuck. I was debating between doing this and getting a 1301 and I ultimately went with the 1301. Seems like you put a decent amount of rounds through it. Can you do a “James reaves” style burn down for it?
Ill see ill see sounds like a fun idea
Friendly reminder you can buy 2 clones for the cost of an actual m4 btw. And take care of them, they'll last.
More turknelli content please
Somewhat soon
Question I just purchased and I might be having a brain fart with it, is the stock adjustable ?
For some reason mine isnt. I think theyre supposed to be but may have sent a restricted version
Practice Practice
Man I was on the fence of getting a shotgun or not, but this might have pushed me over.
Well worth
Send it to James reeves
Haha ive done more than their 500 round test and its fine hoping to finish up the video in texas about that
Just bought this same gun yesterday. Can’t get the stock to move at all and can’t find anything about it not moving online maybe I got unlucky
No my stock also cant move, its most likely a feature so they dont need to worry about legal issues w certain states
6:00 I think shining a light into the camera proves nothing as a cheap light will be enough to washout the image, shine it on the wall, that way, at least, we can get an idea hotspot size, spill, & beam imperfections.
Everyone knows how good surefire is no need to prove it lol
@@vietnamtactical
I'm not and there are a lot of very sturdy, bright, brighter, lights on the market now at very affordable prices.
Surefire is probably the most durable thats why i buy it
@@vietnamtactical
Copy that but, still, you're not demonstrating durability... or brightness, for that matter, by shining it into the camera. It's the flashaholic in me that is repulsed by it, it's kinda like someone hyping an ammo caliber or bullet design and saying how they wouldn't want to get shot by it, to demonstrate it's effectiveness... Okay, and what would you want to get shot by? It's a designation that any ammo or bullet design can easily meet. Likewise you're showcasing something that even some of the cheapest, least durable lights can do, wash out a camera.
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I am one to believe guns can be modified and reinforced. Yes we should not let gun companies rely on us making the gun work well but if car enthusiast can modifying cars for better performance why cant gun owners do it for guns which function a whole lot simpler than cars. You may have to tighten screws or file down or polish some areas with budget guns for that savings. The information about grade of materials used down to the screws should be provided to customers. We can then understand what we are working with. Am I wrong about this? I like that gun and im getten one...
Technically none of these parts improved the performance of the weapon since i didnt mess with any internals that matter like the bolt carrier or recoil springs. I do agree tho, you can turn a PSA upper and lower into a knighted out setup
@vietnamtactical yea I wasn't referring to those parts but I was referring to more of replacing screws made of weak material and possibly some of the weak internals
What’s the second shotgun
Garbage GForce GF1
@@vietnamtactical ah might just get a 930 Spx/Jm pro/a300 🤣
Id do a300 over the 930
@@vietnamtactical for the money any day always mossy pumps and beretta semi’s for shottys ,but if I find the 930 spx/jm pro under $800 new Shid 🤣
Push pull on a stocked shotgun? Gotta be a misunderstanding
Nope it works
Hmmm a shotgun with a Asian are you Glenn from walking dead?
Not just yet my eyes are still in my head
@@vietnamtactical okay buddy
I’d rather buy a stock benelli m4 for less than a tricked out clone.
There is NO choice over the Benelli M4.
Beretta 1301
@@vietnamtactical Well... damn. I forgot about the 1301. I have the M4 Gen 2 LEO version with the SuperNova style collapsible stock, metal forend and full mag tube.
I had an A300 Patrol for little while.
Decided to mod this for fun since i dont like shotguns much haha
Dunno... I bought a MAC 1014 earlier this year. The only thing I changed was to add a larger bolt handle. The fit and finish was absolutely flawless. The action is silky smooth. I've taken it out shooting a few times and it has performed flawlessly with slugs, buckshot and birdshot. I have a little over 300 rds through it without a single failure. I also did a complete teardown to inspect the ends of the gas pistons and the area on the bolt face where the gas pistons make contact and found no wear or "peening" at all. I know some of these Turkish shotguns can be hit and miss but I couldn't be happier with the MAC 1014, especially at 1/5 the price of the Benelli. I could have bought a Benelli, I just chose not to. :-)
Dude open your blinds and prove you don’t live in a townhouse and have neighbors behind your door.
Keep an eye on my community post😭
Thank you for that it’s much appreciated. as a fellow gun owner thinking that someone could be that negligent with a firearm and possibly hurt some could be very bad for the 2a.
Now I’m going to give you a sub
He's good at OPSEC by keeping his home location secret.
@@Excalibur01 nothing wrong with opsec but this is 2024. I’m not going to watch content of a person that’s possibly blasting rounds in his house with people behind it.
Gyatt
Dawg are you on Instagram? You gotta post this build over there
Got banned on tiktok but i saw that coming and no i only have a personal insta