Though I agree with most of your tier list and you make a lot of good points I highly disagree that Rattites are bottom tier. Humans, the most broken faction in the game, struggled in a war against emus, a member of the Rattites, even with their best weapons. Because of that I'd argue that the Rattites should atleast be ranked higher than geese (high B-tier)
@@Heyzues21 ngl I think she is thinking of the birds in a 1v1 scenario and not overall. Vulture would crush in 1v1s but in their place they tend to live the competition is too strong.
@Oodles of Noodles like dont get me wrong,the videos are great ,i just think sometimes he puts animals on questionable places just to have them more distribucted on the list or sometimes thinks about them as individuals
@@duarteribeiro2558 The thing is, the whole channel is based on the fact that the world is one big game in which every player gets to choose their build. Of course he is going to tackle them as they work towards their own survivability, unless the whole gameplan works around the group, which is why they are also always in the upper tiers. Some animals work perfectly for their preservation as a species, but don't consider the single/the single is likely to die to serve the species. Given those premises, why would you consider this build worthwhile, or even good? Take the Salmon. It's perfectly fine, but had you the choice, why would you be one when you are so likely to die? I understand not agreeing or heavely disagreeing with x,y,z position, but you kind of have to play by the rules. Also, more often than not, the "comparing it with other animals" is true considering competition in the same "server", in which said comparisons make sense
@@unstoppableawesome He also tries to account for a hypothetical absence of humans at times, because otherwise bulldogs would be a top tier class when it really won't be able to survive without human support. It's not a perfect methodology (nor transparent) but I think he's being pretty fair most of the time.
Stompy and his kin have been around for 80 million years and he still put them in f tier. If you can survive in Australia or africa for that long you aren't going extinct anytime soon
@@unstoppableawesome it also takes a you as a player approach, in case of songbirds they are strong in numbers but they get killed a lot too, meaning they are succesfull as species, but not that much as individuals, meaning is viable to play as one, yet its a high risk to be that one bird that was caught by a cat, on the other hand parrots and corvids you have a better chance to have a succesful run as a solo player.
I mean come on now maya. Owls body Falcons no problem. Completely silent, can hunt at night and can do close in brawling unlike the Falcon. Honestly Owls should probably be in S tier.
I was driving home tonight and I saw a owl fly from a tree and grab a rat in the road as i approached it. It landed on the powerline above me as i drove on and it just held it like a boss. Owls are fuckin NUTS
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now. Intelligence is quite important in increasing animal rankings. Dexterity and intelligence is way more important then pvp. Unless you are an apex predator like the tiger who can body other apex predators you aint getting an S.
Watch TierZoo's Raptor Tier list. He goes in depth birds like Hawks, Eagles, Falcons, Owls, etc. Yes, owls are very good. However they have any glaring weaknesses. For one, unlike Hawks, and Eagles, Owls are forced to exclusively pray in animals far under it's own weight class, rodents, snakes, and insects for younger owls. If doesn't matter if an owl is silent if they're too weak to hurt a Falcon. Owls also have NO way to take down bats. Bats are a plentiful build that, if you can catch one, is a great source of EXP. However Owls CAN'T catch bats. Echolocation renders the Owl's silent flying useless.
@@Ockto_ Owls are a natural predator of bats; the owl's *Silent Flight* ability allows it to alter turbulence and absorb sound enough to approach prey undetected.
@@ConfidentMelon I don't think you understand how echolocation works.... Bats make sounds that bounce off of solid surfaces, then bounce back to the bat. This gives the bad a full understanding of its surroundings at all times using sound. They use this to locate owls. An owl's silent flight is useless againced a bat because a bat would figure out the location of the owl from the sound bouncing of the owl relative to the bat. Also, obviously owls are natural born predators, but so are falcons. An owl could NEVER be fast enough to dodge a falcon who has built up speed. The only time an owl actually has change of beating a falcon if it's night time. However, owls can hit hard. Both falcons and owls have incredibly weak talons and beaks for mid flight combat. However falcons can bypass this issue by using itself as a living missile by flying at over 100mph. How would you react if a human the same size as you swooped in going 100mph right to your body?
Oh btw the ending is talking about a bird species that baits smaller animals into going into trees and impaling them using the trees spikes (definitely not psychotic)
Shrikes are one of my favorite birds. I feel they would be tiered in a decent spot since they have all the advantages of songbirds plus the ability to hunt. And they're tanker than other songbirds since they're a bit bigger
I think the point is how well a species adapts to ever changing environment, gets its food, protects its offspring and generally proliferates... voltures are cool but will they be around in few thousand years... while owls, corvids and songbirds for example have much greater chance of surviving. Voltures are kind of a "one trick pony" in what they do...while corvids adapt extremely well...owls will have small mammals to hunt for centuries to come and can live near or in human cities ( at least in my city owls hunt regulary )...
@@koopasteve owls are work smarter not harder type build. Falcons and Owls get pretty much the same gain, but owls get it much for efficiently with less energy wasted.
@@koopasteve You are missing the point. Vultures are tank scavengers who cant tank very well. Another comment said this: the tier list isnt about biggest or strongest but rather what role they fill and how successful they are at it. Vultures arent garbage but they cant lock down a carcass if any large predator is around.
@@koopasteve Lol maybe from jackals. A lone lion, hyena, or even a damn cheetah (cheetahs are F tier and TierZoo already made a video on it) could scare away 20 vultures. They have no way to DEFEND their carcass. Look at bears for example. Bears are one of the strongest if not THE strongest scavengers because of their sheer bulk and power. They can chase other predators off of them and defend them. You're telling me that a group of 20 vultures in their "social group" is going to defend it's carcass from a large predator?
Power is useless. Cheetahs vs rats are a a good example. Rats are definitely A tier but cheetahs are D tier even tough cheetahs are much better hunters than rats
@@trashofthefourthquarter1142 Cheetahs are bad because they have speed and nothing else... They have paws like canines so they cant use their claws to attack or climb. They struggle because they dont HAVE any power actually. They cant protect their kills from any other large predator in africa.
And she would try to justify what she knows by saying "knowing this guy (which ig she don't know who tierzoo is) he probably would put a mallord duck at the top" It would literally be all ducks not one species of duck. I actually really liked Maya before this clip but this kinda showed a lack of intelligence by not taking anything in the video and just disagreeing with everything. Ain't trying to say shes dumb she might've been having a bad day but this video makes her look salty cause she didn't agree with him. He spilled countless facts in the video she didn't know. You can't know the meta more than Tierzoo.
what maya as to take into account is that the tier isn't just about 1v1 stats. it's survivability in the wild stats,inteligence and how the race dominates they're mapzone. if it was just 1v1 then most birds would be f and c tier
"theres more going on in a falcons head than an owls" if we compare it to something like smash its like "theres more going on in a luigis head than a bowsers" but a luigi would need to a do a 7 hit combo to get a kill and thats with their 0-death vs a bowser who can kill in 3 hits an owl while being a sit and wait predator its more efficient
At the end of the video i was really looking forward for the explanation on why she was so mad for C tier vultures hoping to learn something new; the explanation: "Vultures are badasses and they don't get enough credits and it triggers me" Well, thanks i guess...
There is a species of vulture called the bone-breaker (at least in Spanish, dont know the name in English) that drops bones over rocks to break them and eat the bone marrow and I just think it's so fucking metal and cool Edit: spelling
Their beak is so god damn weak tho, when they see a corpse they literally just circle around in in the sky waiting for animals/microbes to finish the outer layer of the meat before so they could peck what's left. The beak is so weak imagine if you could only bite through ice cream and jelly.
The Cinereous Vulture has a ten and a half foot wingspan, and a majority of the Vulture species have beaks capable of snapping bones. Old World Vultures are closely related to hawks, and even if they can't rip open a live animal, they can definitely still do damage. Also, vomiting stomach acid on predators, advanced sense of smell, superior resistance against viruses and bacteria, etc. People who think the species got a fair rating are silly.
I believe he ranks the lists by their effectiveness in their relevant biome relative to the effectiveness of the others in their relative biome. I.e. songbirds do well because they do well quite well in a variety of biomes, and can deal with humans and larger/more deadly predators well. That said, Goose may have a cheeky meme bonus to boost up, but also vultures are clearly overated
I wanna see Maya and Asmon sit down in a room and watch a bunch of these. Maya being the animal expert and Asmon being into stats and games could be a cool reaction
She has to realize it’s also based on what will last you the longest and survive. Survivability is what it is it’s not numbers or anything. A owl will easily outlive a falcon or hawk, it’s a much better and efficient bird.
its weird cos without miz maya wouldve never got popular and would never have opened a non profit, twitch chat is literally responsible for it alland she knows she will lose it without them, thats the only reason she streams, that and bounty streams
Imo these rankings make sense, the ranking isnt base on birb vs bird, or in population, its bases on their habitate and effectiveness for the stats they have
No, because she acts like a child when the animals she likes is placed at a lower tier than she wants them to be and bitterly comments on other animals to put them down because she's mad.
I believe there is an extended version of this tier list where he adds two more birds: ducks in D-Tier and roadrunners in A-Tier. There’s also another bird-related video of his that predates this one called the Raptor Tier List. That one does mention the Osprey, and does place it in S-Tier. But that one also does something slightly different for falcons, eagles, and hawks. That one had all three of them placed in A-Tier, but he also mentions which specific members of each of those factions easily are S-Tier. Those members in question are the Peregrine Falcon for falcons, the Goshawk for hawks, and the Harpy Eagle for eagles.
I mean, vultures are becoming more and more endangered so their viability is going down. And chickens as a whole are quite good, he just talks about the domestic chicken, which is not very good.
I think Maya was thinking more about if these birds were to all fight each other at once who would come out on top. But I think that the tier list compares the viability of all the strategies in their place in nature rather than comparing the pure stats of the birds.
Vultures always had the potential, but they never deliver. Their choice of lifestyle really brings them down. It is a little strange how he didn't mention the bulkiest build though, the Andean Condor.
12:05 She either means Happy Feet or that movie where a bunch of sled dogs got separated from their owner and had to fend for themselves. T'was a cool movie.
Bird girl thinks she knows more than TierZoo. Sorry. TierZoo basically provides the almanac/manual/online wiki for every play through and character description on earth.
So somewhere in the video you said if it was about numbers chikens would be S tier, but tier zoo ranks builds based on their success in the current meta not specifically power or population. So vultures are more powerful than songbirbs but songbirbs are much more successful currently.
He explained very well that Vultures are mid-tier because they are successful scavengers, being one of the few animals that succeed being dedicated scavengers but have some flaws in their role as tank. Their thick feathers, large size and large group size means they are good at locking down a carcass from smaller scavengers but are bodied by larger carnivores and since their lifestyle can often bring them into contact with large predators it means it is an unavoidable hazard.
Damn, girl, salty much? Just because you like a bird, or don't like a bird, doesn't mean it's the best or worst. It's just a preference. TierZoo is using survivability stats, not personal opinion, in his assessments. Also, remember, you clicked on the video. Don't be mad when he says something you don't agree with.
"If it was about numbers, chickens should be a the top!" *Yeah, no.* It IS about numbers too because they're a good reflection how well a species is doing on a larger scale, but chickens don't really apply here because they've become domesticated and are therefore under the humans' protection, who pretty much have complete control over how many there are nowadays. If chickens lived in the wild like vultures, their numbers would shrink massively. Vultures are solid, but definitely not hightier. There's a reason they've opted to primarily feed on carcasses. Also, saying owls are just 'sit and wait predators' is a gross generalization.
but her point was that the low population of vultures was also caused by humans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/vulture-culture-how-the-bird-was-saved-from-extinction/article29425421.ece
@@MrWhatdafuBOOM but humans literally killed 97-99.99% of India's vultures in a period of just 15 years. Saying vultures are bad just because of their numbers is complete bs. You also can't rank animals based solely on their numbers, ants for example, even though they are hated and killed by humans, there are still over a quadrillion ants.
Vultures belong in c. The can't even penetrate the hide of most animals due to weak beaks and as they are in Africa when they do find a body they can eat it attracts hunters that body them so they don't eat much.
The whole falcon owl thing is more than likely based off of power and success rate..... just as tierzoo explained the falcon's speed prowess is very situational and can fail very easily, along with the fact that they cant recover the potential energy required very easily.... on the other hand owls have generally higher success rate because of their stealthy feathers and like you said yourself more power.... so in general it makes sense that he put owls higher than falcons due to the benefits of having a more stealthy power based play style than the hit and run esk play style of the falcons.
this is one of the better tierzoo reaction videos because she has actual ideas about how accurate/inaccurate parts of the tier list are and isnt just yelling at the video.
@Oodles of Noodles Whether or not she's right, she's still sort of engaging with the tier list with some degree of knowledge rather than just OOHing and AAHing at the video which makes it interesting. To be fair, TierZoo's criteria aren't super transparent and there's room for interpretation. You can say that Vultures are low tier because they're endangered, but then again so are Secretarybirds.
perhaps well researched published information online is more trustworthy than personal experiences? if anything having dealt with vulture vomit before would only make someone overestimate the vulture, unless youre saying youve dealt with every single feature of every other bird as well in order to compare them fairly. being more familiar with vultures might make them seem more credible but the same can be said for basically everything that us humans dont usually deal with living in cities
Happy Feet actually tried to resemble most of their models off irl stuff. That’s why the humans appear... real! So they didn’t make leopard seals scary, they just are scary.
I feel like you're thinking too much into pure combative capability and not overall playstyle viability. While I disagree that ratites were all ranked together, they still aren't the highest tiered birds. Cassowaries have destructively powerful kick attacks, they can also swim and have excellent speed.
It can be hard to understand, but I always thought tierzoo made the rankings based on overall viability in nature. So like, the more successful a species is in their own niche.
sorry to hear than you don't agree with my rankings, but hopefully you enjoyed the video nonetheless!
your videos are excellent :))
Hello there
Though I agree with most of your tier list and you make a lot of good points I highly disagree that Rattites are bottom tier. Humans, the most broken faction in the game, struggled in a war against emus, a member of the Rattites, even with their best weapons. Because of that I'd argue that the Rattites should atleast be ranked higher than geese (high B-tier)
No need to apologize just look at the comments
DEBATE!!!
The best part of this video was watching Maya be personally offended by each choice.
@@evolvingcoin8725 if that's truly the case , then i apologize and will remove my previous comment . Sorry
You were right, you think she’s gotten over the vulture yet lol
She's your typical southern farm girl
@@Heyzues21 ngl I think she is thinking of the birds in a 1v1 scenario and not overall. Vulture would crush in 1v1s but in their place they tend to live the competition is too strong.
@@choog2752 Exactly. She wasn't understanding TierZoo's metrics at ALL.
she's just mad cuz her build got nerfed last patch
she's just mad because she's angry
Actually malding, shes gonna start complaining to the devs soon
@@corndogguy2373 Dear Almighty Lord above, please increase my stats, I want to wield a cool item but my LVL is too low.
@@Ixe2077 give it a couple of eons
@@xeli3046 i did that and you know what HAPPENED... I TURNED INTO A CRAB :(
Didn't know Maya was another salty vulture main
TierZoo's vids are bangers
True
Too bad he can’t push them out.
TRUEING
They're entertaining and funny but dude cares and does his research so they're also actually educational, as well.
i dont think maya realises, a teir list is how well the birds operate thier own strategy. not who would win in a fight
But even tier zoo compares a lot of animals based on how strong they are as individuals and not how well adapted is the specie
@Oodles of Noodles i will just say 2 that i remember but it happens a lot of times, foxes,and the entire fish tier list
@Oodles of Noodles like dont get me wrong,the videos are great ,i just think sometimes he puts animals on questionable places just to have them more distribucted on the list or sometimes thinks about them as individuals
@@duarteribeiro2558 The thing is, the whole channel is based on the fact that the world is one big game in which every player gets to choose their build.
Of course he is going to tackle them as they work towards their own survivability, unless the whole gameplan works around the group, which is why they are also always in the upper tiers.
Some animals work perfectly for their preservation as a species, but don't consider the single/the single is likely to die to serve the species. Given those premises, why would you consider this build worthwhile, or even good?
Take the Salmon. It's perfectly fine, but had you the choice, why would you be one when you are so likely to die?
I understand not agreeing or heavely disagreeing with x,y,z position, but you kind of have to play by the rules.
Also, more often than not, the "comparing it with other animals" is true considering competition in the same "server", in which said comparisons make sense
@@duarteribeiro2558 Ah yes foxes who live in almost all the other canines servers
and fish who live in the ocean
Vultures are kinda ass because of where they spawn, competition is just too good.
they exist out of africa, turkey vultures are pretty successful
@@flybasilisk7834 being a invasive species is a great sign of top tiers.
@@Nitosa not really, they are only good in those areas because they arent meant to be in those areas
Vultures are the kid that comes up and T-bags you after someone else gets the kill.
@@Nitosa its because they are too weak to stay in the africa server so they go to turkey where they can hunt and pick off meals from weak predators
This isn't about which bird is better or stronger. But rather which adapts better/has higher chances of survival/not going extinct imo
then songbirds should be S tier, house sparrow most successful bird species
@@unstoppableawesome He also tries to account for a hypothetical absence of humans at times, because otherwise bulldogs would be a top tier class when it really won't be able to survive without human support. It's not a perfect methodology (nor transparent) but I think he's being pretty fair most of the time.
She's just a vulture main
Stompy and his kin have been around for 80 million years and he still put them in f tier. If you can survive in Australia or africa for that long you aren't going extinct anytime soon
@@unstoppableawesome it also takes a you as a player approach, in case of songbirds they are strong in numbers but they get killed a lot too, meaning they are succesfull as species, but not that much as individuals, meaning is viable to play as one, yet its a high risk to be that one bird that was caught by a cat, on the other hand parrots and corvids you have a better chance to have a succesful run as a solo player.
"Owls are sit and wait predators"...so they are smart and conserve energy as much as possible making every kill count? Sounds high tier to me.
pfffft...campers
Treecamping weirdchamp
camping is easy so there is no skill needed for it that is why is lower tier
@@diegohiramguidogarcia6003 but it's not about skill it's about efficiency
@@diegohiramguidogarcia6003 you still forgetting this real life or you forgot maybe?
Tier List guy is right, Maya is just mad cuz bad OMEGALUL
Real and True
YEP, while falcons may have a more respectable and stronger hunting gameplay, owls sit and wait is just as if not more effective
@@chases7896 Not to mention how cute they are☺
@@chases7896 yeah 100%, owls are just more cost-effective / they waste less energy, and get the same reward
@@eel.3170 True, owls are literally the embodiment of work smarter not harder
I mean come on now maya. Owls body Falcons no problem. Completely silent, can hunt at night and can do close in brawling unlike the Falcon. Honestly Owls should probably be in S tier.
I was driving home tonight and I saw a owl fly from a tree and grab a rat in the road as i approached it. It landed on the powerline above me as i drove on and it just held it like a boss. Owls are fuckin NUTS
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now. Intelligence is quite important in increasing animal rankings. Dexterity and intelligence is way more important then pvp. Unless you are an apex predator like the tiger who can body other apex predators you aint getting an S.
Watch TierZoo's Raptor Tier list. He goes in depth birds like Hawks, Eagles, Falcons, Owls, etc. Yes, owls are very good. However they have any glaring weaknesses. For one, unlike Hawks, and Eagles, Owls are forced to exclusively pray in animals far under it's own weight class, rodents, snakes, and insects for younger owls. If doesn't matter if an owl is silent if they're too weak to hurt a Falcon.
Owls also have NO way to take down bats. Bats are a plentiful build that, if you can catch one, is a great source of EXP. However Owls CAN'T catch bats. Echolocation renders the Owl's silent flying useless.
@@Ockto_ Owls are a natural predator of bats; the owl's *Silent Flight* ability allows it to alter turbulence and absorb sound enough to approach prey undetected.
@@ConfidentMelon I don't think you understand how echolocation works.... Bats make sounds that bounce off of solid surfaces, then bounce back to the bat. This gives the bad a full understanding of its surroundings at all times using sound. They use this to locate owls. An owl's silent flight is useless againced a bat because a bat would figure out the location of the owl from the sound bouncing of the owl relative to the bat.
Also, obviously owls are natural born predators, but so are falcons. An owl could NEVER be fast enough to dodge a falcon who has built up speed. The only time an owl actually has change of beating a falcon if it's night time. However, owls can hit hard. Both falcons and owls have incredibly weak talons and beaks for mid flight combat. However falcons can bypass this issue by using itself as a living missile by flying at over 100mph.
How would you react if a human the same size as you swooped in going 100mph right to your body?
Maya: Owls sit and wait predators
99% of predator strats are sit and wait
The hidden birds are:
D tier - Stork
A tier - Roadrunner
Road runner max out speed and defense :)
SSS TIER - BOEING
*Beep beep*
Roadrunners are just devs in disguise. How else can they run through painted holes on walls?
Oh btw the ending is talking about a bird species that baits smaller animals into going into trees and impaling them using the trees spikes
(definitely not psychotic)
Shrikes are psychotic
It doesn't really trick them. It kind of just impales them against their will.
Born with Guerilla warfare tactics
Shrikes are one of my favorite birds. I feel they would be tiered in a decent spot since they have all the advantages of songbirds plus the ability to hunt. And they're tanker than other songbirds since they're a bit bigger
Is one species of these birds called the Vlad Teppes birds? Because that would be very *on* *point* .
I think the point is how well a species adapts to ever changing environment, gets its food, protects its offspring and generally proliferates... voltures are cool but will they be around in few thousand years... while owls, corvids and songbirds for example have much greater chance of surviving.
Voltures are kind of a "one trick pony" in what they do...while corvids adapt extremely well...owls will have small mammals to hunt for centuries to come and can live near or in human cities ( at least in my city owls hunt regulary )...
I Think how Maya and the chat were viewing it was if they were all put in 1v1 rings to fight it out and not actual environment, etc.
@@koopasteve owls are work smarter not harder type build. Falcons and Owls get pretty much the same gain, but owls get it much for efficiently with less energy wasted.
@@koopasteve You are missing the point. Vultures are tank scavengers who cant tank very well. Another comment said this: the tier list isnt about biggest or strongest but rather what role they fill and how successful they are at it. Vultures arent garbage but they cant lock down a carcass if any large predator is around.
@@koopasteve Lol maybe from jackals. A lone lion, hyena, or even a damn cheetah (cheetahs are F tier and TierZoo already made a video on it) could scare away 20 vultures. They have no way to DEFEND their carcass. Look at bears for example. Bears are one of the strongest if not THE strongest scavengers because of their sheer bulk and power. They can chase other predators off of them and defend them. You're telling me that a group of 20 vultures in their "social group" is going to defend it's carcass from a large predator?
@@koopasteve everybody can bully cheetahs. Thats nothing to boast about
Maya is trying to say that Falcon's being a harder build to pilot somehow makes them better than Owls. Stay mad Mayo. Owls will stay winning.
Tierzoo made a video about raptors 2-3 years ago, and he had vultures in B+ tier, with Owls in B
Yeah but that’s just for raptors, but if raptors as a whole are lower tier, then that’s probably where they’d end up
i think the list was more on their efficiency of staying alive rather than power
Power is useless. Cheetahs vs rats are a a good example. Rats are definitely A tier but cheetahs are D tier even tough cheetahs are much better hunters than rats
@@trashofthefourthquarter1142 Cheetahs are bad because they have speed and nothing else... They have paws like canines so they cant use their claws to attack or climb. They struggle because they dont HAVE any power actually. They cant protect their kills from any other large predator in africa.
@@trashofthefourthquarter1142 exactly my point
@@doug2555 they lack stamina, thus not efficient beings
@@lunacy5510 they actually look cracked
Am i crazy? Or did she just look at the tier list, get angry and completely ignore the reasons they were up there
No my friend you are quite sane because that's exactly what happened.
I think she ignores what criteria the tier list is based on
@@manuelalvarez7146
Emotion > logic
A spade is a spade.
And she would try to justify what she knows by saying "knowing this guy (which ig she don't know who tierzoo is) he probably would put a mallord duck at the top" It would literally be all ducks not one species of duck. I actually really liked Maya before this clip but this kinda showed a lack of intelligence by not taking anything in the video and just disagreeing with everything. Ain't trying to say shes dumb she might've been having a bad day but this video makes her look salty cause she didn't agree with him. He spilled countless facts in the video she didn't know. You can't know the meta more than Tierzoo.
Other Animal: Kills Animal
Chat: OMEGALUL
___________________________
Animal Attacking Human: Human Tosses Animal To The Side
Chat: D:
Tierzoo: *says anything*
Maya: "you're wrong because you have a different opinion."
exaggerated
she said like five words of criticism lol
what maya as to take into account is that the tier isn't just about 1v1 stats. it's survivability in the wild stats,inteligence and how the race dominates they're mapzone. if it was just 1v1 then most birds would be f and c tier
"theres more going on in a falcons head than an owls" if we compare it to something like smash its like "theres more going on in a luigis head than a bowsers" but a luigi would need to a do a 7 hit combo to get a kill and thats with their 0-death vs a bowser who can kill in 3 hits an owl while being a sit and wait predator its more efficient
So confused how she was mad at owls vs falcons because of their hunting ability but was then pissed at vultures’ placement
At the end of the video i was really looking forward for the explanation on why she was so mad for C tier vultures hoping to learn something new; the explanation:
"Vultures are badasses and they don't get enough credits and it triggers me"
Well, thanks i guess...
And also your talking about how owls just sit and wait but vultures literally just eat dead animals
Right? When a vulture can catch a rabbit running at full speed, then it’ll be in the conversation with owls.
There is a species of vulture called the bone-breaker (at least in Spanish, dont know the name in English) that drops bones over rocks to break them and eat the bone marrow and I just think it's so fucking metal and cool
Edit: spelling
Compared to hawks that pick up goats and throw them down mountains to kill them...they sound straight bitch lol
Bearded vulture?
Their beak is so god damn weak tho, when they see a corpse they literally just circle around in in the sky waiting for animals/microbes to finish the outer layer of the meat before so they could peck what's left. The beak is so weak imagine if you could only bite through ice cream and jelly.
@@CallMePip Exactly...and they eat rotten meat aswell the dirty bastards...they're like the rats of the sky.
The Cinereous Vulture has a ten and a half foot wingspan, and a majority of the Vulture species have beaks capable of snapping bones. Old World Vultures are closely related to hawks, and even if they can't rip open a live animal, they can definitely still do damage. Also, vomiting stomach acid on predators, advanced sense of smell, superior resistance against viruses and bacteria, etc.
People who think the species got a fair rating are silly.
maya and tierzoo my favourite things combined peepoHappy
Corvid best rat build taking pvp advantages without pvping
wdym corvids are just smart in not chasing empty kills
you only have to plant the bomb to win
This was a great video. I love how its based around life being one big video game🤣
@Ryan Horvat checking his stuff out rn
His videos are literal hidden gem
You would have a blast watching em
Ngl I was more interested in the BO2 music for the first couple of minutes. Didn't realize how much of a banger that was.
Music is dope, Cheese. Don't ever stop.
I believe he ranks the lists by their effectiveness in their relevant biome relative to the effectiveness of the others in their relative biome. I.e. songbirds do well because they do well quite well in a variety of biomes, and can deal with humans and larger/more deadly predators well. That said, Goose may have a cheeky meme bonus to boost up, but also vultures are clearly overated
he rates them by how well they do at staying alive.
Remember Rickey.
The field mouse is fast, but the owl sees at night
I wanna see Maya and Asmon sit down in a room and watch a bunch of these. Maya being the animal expert and Asmon being into stats and games could be a cool reaction
"Animal expert" lmao
LULW expert
She has to realize it’s also based on what will last you the longest and survive. Survivability is what it is it’s not numbers or anything. A owl will easily outlive a falcon or hawk, it’s a much better and efficient bird.
this is what twitch is in 2021. Just sitting quietly watching youtube.
its weird cos without miz maya wouldve never got popular and would never have opened a non profit, twitch chat is literally responsible for it alland she knows she will lose it without them, thats the only reason she streams, that and bounty streams
Imo these rankings make sense, the ranking isnt base on birb vs bird, or in population, its bases on their habitate and effectiveness for the stats they have
Geese are lower than swans because geese are all bluff but swans have the strength to back up their threats.
Plz react to more of them, I wouldn't mind watching them all again
No, because she acts like a child when the animals she likes is placed at a lower tier than she wants them to be and bitterly comments on other animals to put them down because she's mad.
Did Maya not listen to TierZoo as to why Vultures are in C and Geese are in B?
no she didn't cuz she kept reading chat xD
I wanna see an interview with him on the conservation cast! Maybe on a special episode?
I really want maya to react to more of the animal tier lists. That guy makes great videos!
"Vultures are endangered" The point being that if you are endangeredspecies you don't deserve to be high on the tier list.
Secretarybirds are endangered, soooo
I believe there is an extended version of this tier list where he adds two more birds: ducks in D-Tier and roadrunners in A-Tier. There’s also another bird-related video of his that predates this one called the Raptor Tier List. That one does mention the Osprey, and does place it in S-Tier. But that one also does something slightly different for falcons, eagles, and hawks. That one had all three of them placed in A-Tier, but he also mentions which specific members of each of those factions easily are S-Tier. Those members in question are the Peregrine Falcon for falcons, the Goshawk for hawks, and the Harpy Eagle for eagles.
Remember Rickey.
The field mouse is fast, but the Owl sees at night
5:56 I NEVER NOTICED THE BEE GETTING BODIED BY THE WING LMAOO
Bruh, owls are one of the strongest birds in game. I'd even say that they rival eagles in their hunting prowess.
"Almost %60 of the viewers are not subscribed. Why?"
Free trial
this is the bird girl version of a neckbeard talking about mmo classes
well birds are a much more real and useful subject than mmo's...
I mean, vultures are becoming more and more endangered so their viability is going down. And chickens as a whole are quite good, he just talks about the domestic chicken, which is not very good.
12:15 why they didn't put video where pinguin was messing with leopard seal by jumping on it
Instead of listening the arguments she just gets mad OMEGALUL
I think Maya was thinking more about if these birds were to all fight each other at once who would come out on top. But I think that the tier list compares the viability of all the strategies in their place in nature rather than comparing the pure stats of the birds.
Maya malding cuz shes a vulture main OMEGALUL Geese FTW!!
Vultures always had the potential, but they never deliver. Their choice of lifestyle really brings them down. It is a little strange how he didn't mention the bulkiest build though, the Andean Condor.
12:05 She either means Happy Feet or that movie where a bunch of sled dogs got separated from their owner and had to fend for themselves. T'was a cool movie.
He isn't ranking them on what would happen if they all fight he's ranking on how good they live lmao
This is the first video i watch on this channel and i get an insta jumpscared by Maya... 10/10
Bird girl thinks she knows more than TierZoo. Sorry. TierZoo basically provides the almanac/manual/online wiki for every play through and character description on earth.
she said falcon has higher int stat than owls shes clearly a noob
Yeah all she said was “no falcons better than owls and vultures are cool” without providing evidence
Calm down a bit, ok? It is just a video.
@@aronworlen1752 calm down abit ok, just a comment
@@rtxsfm4626 It’s a casual reaction vid bruh she isn’t trying to do a rigorous scientific debunking of tierzoos vid
Canadian goose is VASTLY more intimidating than the vulture.
Finallyyyyyy.
Mayo watching tierzoo
I love how her reactions are saying the name of the animal until the vulture comes up
So somewhere in the video you said if it was about numbers chikens would be S tier, but tier zoo ranks builds based on their success in the current meta not specifically power or population. So vultures are more powerful than songbirbs but songbirbs are much more successful currently.
She doesn't live in Canada does she? Canadian gooses are menaces to society, ion agree abt vulture but goose is a respectable
Vultures needs to be respected more.
@Oodles of Noodles well that what happened when you give a hairless ape a gun and freedom to do what they want
maya got so trigered bc of the vulture placement KEKW
Why was she so shocked that swans are A tier they KILLED people.
5:59 We gonna ignore this asshole hummingbird slapping the shit out of that honeybee?
He explained very well that Vultures are mid-tier because they are successful scavengers, being one of the few animals that succeed being dedicated scavengers but have some flaws in their role as tank. Their thick feathers, large size and large group size means they are good at locking down a carcass from smaller scavengers but are bodied by larger carnivores and since their lifestyle can often bring them into contact with large predators it means it is an unavoidable hazard.
Maya complaining about someone being sponsored *cough
I love how this comment section isn’t an echo chamber
The vultures really set her off
this video is so cool but i can’t focus on it because i miss bo2 so much that it’s going to make me cry
Who are the parents of this poor young man?! And why did they name him Maya??
What
Damn, girl, salty much? Just because you like a bird, or don't like a bird, doesn't mean it's the best or worst. It's just a preference. TierZoo is using survivability stats, not personal opinion, in his assessments. Also, remember, you clicked on the video. Don't be mad when he says something you don't agree with.
The tier isn’t all about fighting 😂 that’s why some birds are on mid tier or b tier
Tierzoo looking out for the underdogs. Putting songbirds and pelicans up in the tier list is respectable.
Tier Zoo is sick
"If it was about numbers, chickens should be a the top!"
*Yeah, no.*
It IS about numbers too because they're a good reflection how well a species is doing on a larger scale, but chickens don't really apply here because they've become domesticated and are therefore under the humans' protection, who pretty much have complete control over how many there are nowadays. If chickens lived in the wild like vultures, their numbers would shrink massively. Vultures are solid, but definitely not hightier. There's a reason they've opted to primarily feed on carcasses.
Also, saying owls are just 'sit and wait predators' is a gross generalization.
I like the chopper pic 👍
but her point was that the low population of vultures was also caused by humans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis
www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/energy-and-environment/vulture-culture-how-the-bird-was-saved-from-extinction/article29425421.ece
@@wsdadsujiahd9800 Not nearly to a degree as with chickens is what I'm saying.
@@MrWhatdafuBOOM but humans literally killed 97-99.99% of India's vultures in a period of just 15 years. Saying vultures are bad just because of their numbers is complete bs. You also can't rank animals based solely on their numbers, ants for example, even though they are hated and killed by humans, there are still over a quadrillion ants.
@@wsdadsujiahd9800 But humans still have far more influence on the number of chickens by domesticating them.
Daymn I really didn't expect to hear the bo2 main menu music in a bird rating vid
Never heard of this guy (not maya LUL) but his humor is top tier. In my opinion.
edit: also love the BO2 music. woopwoop
He's ranking by survivability. Too be fair though, he didn't defend that c tier pick very well. Didn't even mention the scavenging strategy.
Vultures belong in c. The can't even penetrate the hide of most animals due to weak beaks and as they are in Africa when they do find a body they can eat it attracts hunters that body them so they don't eat much.
The whole falcon owl thing is more than likely based off of power and success rate..... just as tierzoo explained the falcon's speed prowess is very situational and can fail very easily, along with the fact that they cant recover the potential energy required very easily.... on the other hand owls have generally higher success rate because of their stealthy feathers and like you said yourself more power.... so in general it makes sense that he put owls higher than falcons due to the benefits of having a more stealthy power based play style than the hit and run esk play style of the falcons.
this is one of the better tierzoo reaction videos because she has actual ideas about how accurate/inaccurate parts of the tier list are and isnt just yelling at the video.
@Oodles of Noodles Whether or not she's right, she's still sort of engaging with the tier list with some degree of knowledge rather than just OOHing and AAHing at the video which makes it interesting.
To be fair, TierZoo's criteria aren't super transparent and there's room for interpretation. You can say that Vultures are low tier because they're endangered, but then again so are Secretarybirds.
No, she just completely misunderstood his ranking system. lmao
The canadian geese are terrifying, heard a golfer was killed and dismember cause he got too close to a nest by a flock
this video was so good holy
the bo2 soundtrack in the back makes it just way better 😂😂😂
12:28 lmao that happened on my local golf course. Was a big deal for it to go viral being from a small town.
TierZoo has never had to deal with vulture vomit and it shows-
perhaps well researched published information online is more trustworthy than personal experiences? if anything having dealt with vulture vomit before would only make someone overestimate the vulture, unless youre saying youve dealt with every single feature of every other bird as well in order to compare them fairly. being more familiar with vultures might make them seem more credible but the same can be said for basically everything that us humans dont usually deal with living in cities
That horse destroyed that goose and didn't even bat an eye
i love how much maya loves animals 💚
love your vids
The best part of this video is the black ops theme playing in the background
This was way funnier than I expected it to be. I expect the response video soon
I just watched a 24 min bird tier list video... God I need to sleep....
Happy Feet actually tried to resemble most of their models off irl stuff. That’s why the humans appear... real! So they didn’t make leopard seals scary, they just are scary.
Is she trying to do a Mizkif opener x)?
I feel like you're thinking too much into pure combative capability and not overall playstyle viability. While I disagree that ratites were all ranked together, they still aren't the highest tiered birds. Cassowaries have destructively powerful kick attacks, they can also swim and have excellent speed.
I think the fact that Vultures have the Eat Everything (Even Rubber) perk makes them at least A Tier.
It can be hard to understand, but I always thought tierzoo made the rankings based on overall viability in nature. So like, the more successful a species is in their own niche.