*Have I ever helped you make a purchasing decision or enlightened you on an awesome new game you enjoy?* Fan donations greatly help me keep this all going. THANK YOU! www.patreon.com/Boomstickgaming THANKS TO ALL THE SPECIAL GUESTS THAT HELPED CONTRIBUTE TO THIS! This has been the longest I’ve spent on any one video since I started TH-cam in 2006. I would greatly appreciate it if you could put that summon sign down and help by sharing this with a buddy or two that might enjoy it. SIDE NOTE: I am quite aware of the term “Souls-like” being tossed around too loosely in the industry so I tried to only feature games that are very obviously inspired by Souls, and not include anything that falls under “It’s like Souls cause it’s hard…” Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed this jolly co-operation!
Hi there! In case you see this, I just wanna say thanks for making this video bc it gave some good tips. I've been thinking of a souls-like of my own. It takes place in an island with dinosaurs and other monsters. You play as a raptor trapped in the ruins of a massive civilization that once dominated the land and you must find a way to escape while fighting predators, traps, and other threats. What do you think?
@@BoomstickGaming Thanks! I already found a few cool examples from dinosauroid art, such as knife fighting using backward thrust attacks and launching an alatl-like weapon with its tail. It might be interesting, even fun, to do some experimenting with these ideas
I love how this turned out, you put it together really nicely and was a great look into what makes these games so well but you really did a great job to show what areas innovation is able to be applied to. Hats off to you, sir!
Lorewise it's the biggest fck you towards humanity. Gwyn be like- You were creatures of the dark, now look how I've made you crave for light, look how I've made you love and yearn for the very thing you should have hated
3 minutes in. This is *so* good. I love how the guests are matching your 'deadpan' voice. Good job :'D Edit: Hyped for Sinner: Sacrifice for Redemption. Hope you cover it.
Okay Boomstick, you're getting my attention now. Also I had no idea you've been on YT since 2006. You're not the only one. I've been on YT since 2K6. Surprisingly, today is my 12th anniversary here on this website.
Thanks! I'm considering one for either Rogue lites or for turn-based RPG battle systems. Won't be till 2019 because this one was an insane amount of work.
Deadeye and Boomstick I’m beyond pleased with this video. Not only did you manage to cover my favorite genre of games but brought in a ton of my favorite TH-cam and other talents to add a rainbow of flavor to a great topic. If I wasn’t already subscribed I would again. Where are the double like thumbs or the “hell yeah” buttons located? Watching closely for future content as always. Great job. 😀
@@BoomstickGaming I know this is an old comment but recently I’ve been looking for a direction in life and have been thinking about getting int game design but my preferred genres are souls like and fps games and you’re video really helped. Even if you believe that your video won’t be searched a lot, just know people like me are always going to be around and this video will always be there to help guide. I hope you have a good day man. Take care and thank you for the content.
What an awesome collarboration ! I hope it pays mate. All in all I really like your analysis and its far beyond what your average gaming youtuber is capable of.
This was really well done! It gave good insight into the genre. I really want to praise how you incorporated the other speakers and the pacing of the video! Well done :)
I've been avoiding this recommendation for a few months now, assuming there couldn't be anything they could say that I didn't already know. I was right, but, this video was a pleasure to watch. It's honestly much better than I expected it to be. Very nicely structured and condensed information and great editing. I hope this helps a few people make some fun souls-likes for all of us to enjoy. 😂
* Every failure if done correctly I actually made this video because many of these "Souls-likes" fail to capture that special hard but fair middle ground. Wanted to keep it informative and not put any one game on blast however.
Why doesn't this have like two million views or something? It was very informative and comprehensive, especially for a soulslike noob like me (I've been playing this type of games for less then a year, most recently Remnant: From the Ashes). I have even found some new titles to play in it, so thanks for that, too.
My personal ultimate action RPG game = Witcher 3 style overall rich base/contents game + Nioh combat system + Bloodborne atmospheric cosmic horror theme. What are the games at 8:12 & 8:19?
I think I would love to have an in-depth analysis of DMC series gameplay, difficulty with Gamebritshow. That series was the start of all for all action adventure game including soul like games to come and how DMC3 revolutionized the Hack n' Slash game in general.
I liked the video. I wish though that the clips of games had the name of the game overlayed, as the list of games in the description doesn't include all games in the video.
devs need to put more work in their hard modes. God of war turned out to be a great game on the max difficulty. boring otherwise. in general, devs need to follow ninja gaiden and white day models with higher difficulties. tougher enemies, more ai patterns and can add an extra puzzle or 2 that requires some backtracking. one hard mode mechanic I don't exactly agree with is more stress on resources. just makes the hard more tedious over it being more difficult. Overall right now all we get is Soul-like and Asian games for hard mode. If more love were put into these higher challenges, these games might not be a flash in the pan and forgotten about within a week.
It could be done but would be very difficult to make fun. Combat is so much of the core of these games, it would be like taking platforming out of a metroidvania. Kind of like what we see with the game featured in this, Unworthy, a metroidvania with no jump, but still has some "platforming".
So i just started playing nioh 2 . This is my first time playing this kind of game. I got wrecked really bad.. took me legit 7 hours to complete the first mission "the village of cursed blossoms". I usually just quit the game i can't play. But i really want to try how to be that kind of gamer. So i endured. I'm so bad, i feel sad for myself. Enemies respawn is suck tbh. Also this game don't have the typical parry like "hit L1 at the right time" parry. Maybe i need to unlock it ? I suck at the game, but i love this literally my first time playing it. It took me 7 hours to complete the first mission but somehow i beat the last blue horse head boss first try, maybe because i beat the boss while in fire beast mode.
Hey, I was just wondering, what's the game at 11:25? I know there is a list of the games in the description, but I was just wondering if someone knew already. I've never seen the game before and it looks interesting.
I guess vaati is more of a lore guy. Nice video though, I find it interesting you got a guy more known for his opinions on monster hunter for this though. I guess the core of what makes monster hunters combat does translate to the souls borne games though.
Everyone here has covered the Souls series quite extensively, just not as extensive as some peoples Monster Hunter content but yeah.. Monster Hunter skills translate very well to these games since the Souls series took inspiration with its methodical combat, from Monster Hunter.
Is the saga of Souls over though? Sure there was a couple good 1 offs like Salt & Sanctuary but ever since From Software officially closed the door on Soulsborne, it feels like there is no home anymore. Nothing to look forward to and its almost like this sacred genre that so many dare not to approach and the few that do fall way short or just offer this limited scope of an experience. I sure as hell hope Soulsborne is not truly over. It's just too good to leave behind for good at least.
No matter how souls games can be difficult , it can't be harder than Gow Sigrun it's funny and sad at the same time , if you haven't Fight the queen Valkyrie Sigrun on Gmgow+ difficulty .. you know nothing about : what the words ( hard - unfair - merciless ) means , she's a monster among monsters souls bosses are like child play compared to her lol , at least on Gmgow+ .
being purely hard means nothing. they talk about that in this video. its easy to make something difficult. to balance it and make it fun, that's real design challenge.
That's a cheap and badly designed boss, though. She has moves that you can't see coming which will kill you in one hit. That's not challenging, that's just punishing - there's a difference. A challenge is something you can see coming, which therefore gives you the chance to respond: That's a direct challenge to you, right? That GOW boss will often skip the challenge/or "tell" and just punish you. That's bad game design. People love the Souls games because they are genuinely challenging, as opposed to merely being punishing. In the Souls games, you are punished only when you fail to respond to the presented challenge correctly. Big difference!
watching this video i actually have to disagree wih the fair thing. that's why dark souls 3 really wasn't that interesting past one playthrough. bosses were the only interesting thing in the game and that's about it. you compare that game to dark souls 2 or even to some ninja gaiden, you quickly realize how much you miss having some unfair stuff in a game (such as no stunlocking and backtracking)can be.
"Souls like" a great excuse to copy a previously successful game over and over and over. These game ALL HAVE 1. NONSENSICAL stories with cryptic dialogue throughout 2. intentionally frustrating and punishing "you are weak" combat 3. Set piece levels with paths that you unlock shortcuts between 4. Enemies respawn on checkpoints 5. Hidden enemeies who 1-2 shot you 6. Worst of all the niche fanbase that vehemnetly defend these horrible low effort cookie cutter shovel ware games. *Here they come.* And i could go on.
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I would greatly appreciate it if you could put that summon sign down and help by sharing this with a buddy or two that might enjoy it.
SIDE NOTE: I am quite aware of the term “Souls-like” being tossed around too loosely in the industry so I tried to only feature games that are very obviously inspired by Souls, and not include anything that falls under “It’s like Souls cause it’s hard…”
Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed this jolly co-operation!
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Hi there! In case you see this, I just wanna say thanks for making this video bc it gave some good tips. I've been thinking of a souls-like of my own. It takes place in an island with dinosaurs and other monsters. You play as a raptor trapped in the ruins of a massive civilization that once dominated the land and you must find a way to escape while fighting predators, traps, and other threats. What do you think?
@@anthonyporche8110 All comes down to how good of dino combat you could make. Could be cool!
@@BoomstickGaming Thanks! I already found a few cool examples from dinosauroid art, such as knife fighting using backward thrust attacks and launching an alatl-like weapon with its tail. It might be interesting, even fun, to do some experimenting with these ideas
I love how this turned out, you put it together really nicely and was a great look into what makes these games so well but you really did a great job to show what areas innovation is able to be applied to. Hats off to you, sir!
Don't know why but every time I hear your voice in a video, no matter how grim it looks, always makes me happy.
Didn’t you’d be here fellow hunter!
Finding a bonfire...biggest dopamine hit ever
Lorewise it's the biggest fck you towards humanity.
Gwyn be like- You were creatures of the dark, now look how I've made you crave for light, look how I've made you love and yearn for the very thing you should have hated
This is a very well-written, excellently produced video. Thank you for doing this as it was a pleasure to watch and learn from.
3 minutes in. This is *so* good. I love how the guests are matching your 'deadpan' voice. Good job :'D
Edit: Hyped for Sinner: Sacrifice for Redemption. Hope you cover it.
I requested a review copy so cross my fingers at this point!
0:55 Starting off with the best souls OST right away. Hats off.
A nice video covering what it means to be a soulslike in a consie manner. Great job and nice to see a collab like this.
Okay Boomstick, you're getting my attention now. Also I had no idea you've been on YT since 2006. You're not the only one. I've been on YT since 2K6. Surprisingly, today is my 12th anniversary here on this website.
GRATZ! Keep it up
This is awesome please make more like it! I could DEFINITELY get behind this channel!
Thanks! I'm considering one for either Rogue lites or for turn-based RPG battle systems. Won't be till 2019 because this one was an insane amount of work.
Fantastic! A wonderful insightful video!
Deadeye and Boomstick I’m beyond pleased with this video. Not only did you manage to cover my favorite genre of games but brought in a ton of my favorite TH-cam and other talents to add a rainbow of flavor to a great topic. If I wasn’t already subscribed I would again. Where are the double like thumbs or the “hell yeah” buttons located? Watching closely for future content as always. Great job. 😀
*This video needs more views.*
It's not very searchable. Only going to happen if people share it.
@@BoomstickGaming I know this is an old comment but recently I’ve been looking for a direction in life and have been thinking about getting int game design but my preferred genres are souls like and fps games and you’re video really helped. Even if you believe that your video won’t be searched a lot, just know people like me are always going to be around and this video will always be there to help guide. I hope you have a good day man. Take care and thank you for the content.
This was a very enjoyable video to watch, and suddenly had me searching for a bunch of games I never knew about. Thank you.
Same.
What an awesome collarboration ! I hope it pays mate.
All in all I really like your analysis and its far beyond what your average gaming youtuber is capable of.
Awesome team up video
This was really well done! It gave good insight into the genre. I really want to praise how you incorporated the other speakers and the pacing of the video! Well done :)
I've been avoiding this recommendation for a few months now, assuming there couldn't be anything they could say that I didn't already know. I was right, but, this video was a pleasure to watch. It's honestly much better than I expected it to be. Very nicely structured and condensed information and great editing. I hope this helps a few people make some fun souls-likes for all of us to enjoy. 😂
Awesome stuff, want to see more like this
Interesting understanding about soul like genre , it's weird that every failure is entertaining to get that sweet sweet success!!
* Every failure if done correctly
I actually made this video because many of these "Souls-likes" fail to capture that special hard but fair middle ground. Wanted to keep it informative and not put any one game on blast however.
very nice touch using ludwig's theme. one of the best. my fave is still abyss watchers theme though.
Cool video
Keep up th good work
Thank you for the video! Was very interesting.
My mans boomstick out here with connections
this has been very helpful as a game dev just subbed
Sekiro's posture system has me so excited
Yup! That game is going to raise the bar on the whole genre yet again and make this whole video out dated lol ;p
Why doesn't this have like two million views or something? It was very informative and comprehensive, especially for a soulslike noob like me (I've been playing this type of games for less then a year, most recently Remnant: From the Ashes). I have even found some new titles to play in it, so thanks for that, too.
WOW! How has this video gone unnoticed for so long!?
Excellent video
My personal ultimate action RPG game = Witcher 3 style overall rich base/contents game + Nioh combat system + Bloodborne atmospheric cosmic horror theme.
What are the games at 8:12 & 8:19?
Unworthy and Usurper
thanks, seems pretty interesting.
Thank you, this is an excellent video!
Thanks so much for making this.
Great video! But it would be great if you could put timestamps on the game list or maybe put an annotation in the video for each game title.
I think I would love to have an in-depth analysis of DMC series gameplay, difficulty with Gamebritshow. That series was the start of all for all action adventure game including soul like games to come and how DMC3 revolutionized the Hack n' Slash game in general.
Time to put some games on my steam wishlist...
Man, someone spent a lot of time editing this video and adding effects.
Maybe me?
Belief, having faith in oneself.
Wowe production is so high
as a response to the encounters segment i would like to refer you to -> Bed of Chaos Boss fight- Thank you
as a response to the imput segment i would like to refer you to -> Bed of Chaos boss fight- thank you
The Surge 1 was awesome! And i bet that Surge 2 will be even better!!!
Great video. I hear you, but the fromsoft games that i hold up as the standard cant even hold up to alot of these expectations 😂
My favorite games are Souls!
yeee absolvo
Awesome video..did you do one like this for rogue-likes?
I actually thought of this kind of idea months ago with a plan for rogue lie games but it later turned into this. Still might do it in the future.
I wish these games were more realistic about enemies not letting you do the same thing twice
oh damn ngl was surprised to see necropolis
I liked the video. I wish though that the clips of games had the name of the game overlayed, as the list of games in the description doesn't include all games in the video.
It has every game listed and at the end of the video.
This video should be called how to make dark souls IV
I know
The fighting cowboy Channel
He is Damn Good in this Genre of Games
Awesome explanation, congrats. Which game is 12:22 on the video?
Let it Die
No The Surge on the intro? Shame. It's the only souls-lite I know to actually improve on the sub-genre staples.
The Surge is featured later in the video and that teams prior game "Lords of the fallen" did make the intro.
I wish I could get in souls genre even tried liking this type of games after beating Darksouls 1 but I'm done.
devs need to put more work in their hard modes. God of war turned out to be a great game on the max difficulty. boring otherwise. in general, devs need to follow ninja gaiden and white day models with higher difficulties. tougher enemies, more ai patterns and can add an extra puzzle or 2 that requires some backtracking. one hard mode mechanic I don't exactly agree with is more stress on resources. just makes the hard more tedious over it being more difficult. Overall right now all we get is Soul-like and Asian games for hard mode. If more love were put into these higher challenges, these games might not be a flash in the pan and forgotten about within a week.
Great video, i cannot wait for Sekiro, 13:45 What game is this btw ?.
Death's Gambit
Thanks dude.
I came here for Ian Hinck! Buti Bois unite!
But does a souls like even need combat? Can you have a puzzle souls like?
It could be done but would be very difficult to make fun. Combat is so much of the core of these games, it would be like taking platforming out of a metroidvania. Kind of like what we see with the game featured in this, Unworthy, a metroidvania with no jump, but still has some "platforming".
So i just started playing nioh 2 . This is my first time playing this kind of game.
I got wrecked really bad.. took me legit 7 hours to complete the first mission "the village of cursed blossoms". I usually just quit the game i can't play. But i really want to try how to be that kind of gamer. So i endured. I'm so bad, i feel sad for myself.
Enemies respawn is suck tbh. Also this game don't have the typical parry like "hit L1 at the right time" parry. Maybe i need to unlock it ?
I suck at the game, but i love this literally my first time playing it. It took me 7 hours to complete the first mission but somehow i beat the last blue horse head boss first try, maybe because i beat the boss while in fire beast mode.
-Regain +Rally
Hey, I was just wondering, what's the game at 11:25? I know there is a list of the games in the description, but I was just wondering if someone knew already. I've never seen the game before and it looks interesting.
Let it Die.
was this made for me?... yes
Ian Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinck
This is really good and I don't even _like_ Dark Souls.
I guess vaati is more of a lore guy. Nice video though, I find it interesting you got a guy more known for his opinions on monster hunter for this though. I guess the core of what makes monster hunters combat does translate to the souls borne games though.
Everyone here has covered the Souls series quite extensively, just not as extensive as some peoples Monster Hunter content but yeah.. Monster Hunter skills translate very well to these games since the Souls series took inspiration with its methodical combat, from Monster Hunter.
@@BoomstickGaming just saying Cruz I don't actually remember gaijin saying anything on souls borne. Then again I haven't seen every last video of his
Yea he has been covering Sekiro Shadows Die Twice pretty recently.
Is the saga of Souls over though? Sure there was a couple good 1 offs like Salt & Sanctuary but ever since From Software officially closed the door on Soulsborne, it feels like there is no home anymore. Nothing to look forward to and its almost like this sacred genre that so many dare not to approach and the few that do fall way short or just offer this limited scope of an experience. I sure as hell hope Soulsborne is not truly over. It's just too good to leave behind for good at least.
Is hollow knight a souls-like?
Not to mention if you make a game too difficult, you run the risk of people calling it “souls-like”.
3:01 - WHAT IS THAT GAME ??
Immortal Planet.
14:08 Okay but that trap was bullshit!
You are starting to understand the entire point of the video. gj
@@BoomstickGaming Aww damn I got whooshed.
@@alsohenry No, i mean it. There is a lot of reading between the lines in this video. That death was shown to subtly show what NOT to do on purpose.
No matter how souls games can be difficult , it can't be harder than Gow Sigrun
it's funny and sad at the same time , if you haven't Fight the queen Valkyrie Sigrun on Gmgow+ difficulty .. you know nothing about :
what the words ( hard - unfair - merciless ) means , she's a monster among monsters
souls bosses are like child play compared to her lol , at least on Gmgow+ .
being purely hard means nothing. they talk about that in this video. its easy to make something difficult. to balance it and make it fun, that's real design challenge.
Sounds terrible. I'd rather play a balanced hard-but-fair game
That's a cheap and badly designed boss, though. She has moves that you can't see coming which will kill you in one hit. That's not challenging, that's just punishing - there's a difference. A challenge is something you can see coming, which therefore gives you the chance to respond: That's a direct challenge to you, right? That GOW boss will often skip the challenge/or "tell" and just punish you. That's bad game design.
People love the Souls games because they are genuinely challenging, as opposed to merely being punishing. In the Souls games, you are punished only when you fail to respond to the presented challenge correctly. Big difference!
Can't be harder than Sigrun gomgow+ ...
This is a fantastic video! I Can feel the effort dripping!
Thanks man
Where's Vatti?
I tried, he's a busy dude!
I just wanna know how to git good
11:25 what is this game?
Let it Die.
Please what is the title of the game at 3:30
I seriously hate it when youtubers uses lots of video games cutscenes and never mention the name of the game....
What is this game at 10:54? I want it!
Shrouded in Sanity, it has a free version on Steam.
@@BoomstickGaming Looking it up right now, thanks! Wish it was on PS4 too cus thats where I spend most my time but its cool. Looks like 2d Bloodborne!
watching this video i actually have to disagree wih the fair thing. that's why dark souls 3 really wasn't that interesting past one playthrough. bosses were the only interesting thing in the game and that's about it. you compare that game to dark souls 2 or even to some ninja gaiden, you quickly realize how much you miss having some unfair stuff in a game (such as no stunlocking and backtracking)can be.
Unfair but fun is sadly unquantifiable and not replicable. I see your point however.
This video could have been 7 seconds long
And what would the 7 seconds be?
@@BoomstickGaming "the most important to get right in a" souls game" is this and this. This comment was half a joke uk
SOUL-LIKES????? WHATSSS.. NO.. NO... NOOOO... IS """" BLADE-LIKES"""
How good that gamers dont design games since Dark Souls got famous for having INPUT DELAY AND INPUT BUFFERING
Lmao so bad
"Souls like" a great excuse to copy a previously successful game over and over and over. These game ALL HAVE
1. NONSENSICAL stories with cryptic dialogue throughout
2. intentionally frustrating and punishing "you are weak" combat
3. Set piece levels with paths that you unlock shortcuts between
4. Enemies respawn on checkpoints
5. Hidden enemeies who 1-2 shot you
6. Worst of all the niche fanbase that vehemnetly defend these horrible low effort cookie cutter shovel ware games.
*Here they come.*
And i could go on.
Dude, don't talk shit about the difficulty of the arkham series.
I did not. I talked about combat.
BOOMSTICK IS SICK!