No DJ Turner did not jump into the 1st round. He still won't be drafted until the late 2nd or 3rd. He's still short and has uneven game tape. Being fast doesn't always translate to football skills.
One thing I kind of wish to see in a future combine is voluntary drill of one on one DL vs OL, WR (and qb) vs db, and rb vs lb. I think for very under the radar prospects, it would give them an opportunity to show something that can't be solely measured with raw athleticism. Especially the mental and neural talent.
It makes sense on paper, but I don’t think it would be too great for the prospects I feel. Here’s why I think so: 1. The likelihood of injury is increased. 2. The combine is more of a measurement of -individual- mechanics and athletic ability. 3. No top prospects would participate in the drills because what happens if the top OL gets beaten by luck or some mistake? The risk is WAY higher than reward. Leave that stuff to the senior bowl maybe? It does a good job at highlighting under the radar prospects, look at Quinn Meinerz a few years ago :-)
thats what all the time they played college football is for. If you want to see how they do against the defense go watch their game highlights. Also better than a 1v1 you get how they play in the actual game. crazy how that works.
Thought the same about Clark Phillips too. Maybe it’s all the routes the pac 12 guys see just from being a passing conference, but their foot work is 🔥
DJ turner definitely gunna be getting set up good. His form and speed is unbelievable. I know it’s not the fastest of all time but damn that’s good for a combine run!
@@edsondebarros5975 Randy Moss aka SuperFreak 6'4(1/2), 4.25, ran a 4.15 hand timed multiple times. Megatron 6'5, 4.33. Tariq Woolen is a freak but he isn't the same caliber of pure transcendent athlete like Moss or Megatron.
So, a year later all those sub sub 4,4 times by the elite track stars playing DB in the NFL, and Brian Branch, Mr. 4,58 40 yard dash is the best rookie drafted. This only serves once again to emphasize that what you can run on a track is not as important as how fast you can react to a play during game time. Branch 's instincts are elite, and his ability to recognize where the ball is going is elite, and his ability to close on the ball is else, and his ability to deliver a hit and complete a tackle are elite. The rest is just flash...
@@brianzmolek5527 CBs don’t get paid to tackle. He need to perfect his game not put on weight. Gaining weight and strength comes natural at every level
@@334ben10 If you're on the defensive side of the ball, you are a liability if you cant tackle. When you have that small of a frame it simply increases the risk for people to run you over. I hope he does well in coverage, but he would need to be completely lockdown in order to justify his current weight in my opinion.
@@brianzmolek5527 CBs don’t get paid to tackle period. No cb is faulted for bad tackling, but if course it a plus. As long as he willing to be physical size don’t matter for most CBs. The avg NFL CB weight is 193, he weight in at 181. You putting more into then what it is
What does running straight line in shorts and running shoes have to do with covering a receiver? Wouldn't it make more sense to run in full pads, helmet and cleats since that is what they will be wearing on the field?
Dougie P. (Doug Peterson is a very smart coach and boy am I glad we have him on the Jags for a long time He's definitely going to get us to the promised land 🙏😍🤫
Some of these DBs on the full combine video where running 4.5 and 4.6 way too much. I’m pretty sure they’re faster than that but let’s see what they can do on that field, that’s where the real beast come out!!!
Forbes is the best Corner in this class, there is no doubt in my mind. He is quicker as Gonzalez, Porter, Ringo, he has long arms and is a ballhawk. He has multiple NCAA and SEC records and didnt allow a single TD last season with a very hard schedule.
@@s.l.6674 He wont but a solid day 2 man, in all reality he needs to gain weight because people with his profile under 170 aren't too great in the nfl, best right now is like isah Rodgers who aint even starting
Forbes is too skinny I feel like he is an injury risk for sure I don't think he is gonna enjoy tackling running backs but he might be great in coverage with his length
Is it me or have corners just gotten faster on the 40? Remember like 5-10 years ago, there would be like 1 maybe 2 under 4.4. Now I saw 1 over 4.4.......
This to me is the strength of this draft. CB's and Safeties. The best group out of all of it.
TE is up their
DL is looking really good, lots of freak athletes
Dl the best followed by cbs. Safeties not as good
@@Djsoluiuc linebackers above safeties too
Agreed. You can get some great players late
These guys are getting bigger and faster by the year. These dudes dont even look like DBs, more like safeties and LBs.
That may be because safeties are DBs 😅
@@Thegooman67 yk tf he meant🤦🏽♂️ CBS
@@Thegooman67 You must be fun at parties.
Fr man
18:35 "would you say today watching this shxt uh safeties" lmao
DJ Turner’s 40 was insane
Just jumped right into the 1st round
No DJ Turner did not jump into the 1st round. He still won't be drafted until the late 2nd or 3rd. He's still short and has uneven game tape. Being fast doesn't always translate to football skills.
One thing I kind of wish to see in a future combine is voluntary drill of one on one DL vs OL, WR (and qb) vs db, and rb vs lb. I think for very under the radar prospects, it would give them an opportunity to show something that can't be solely measured with raw athleticism. Especially the mental and neural talent.
That’s a lot of work bro tf have u ever played professional sports of any kind?
It makes sense on paper, but I don’t think it would be too great for the prospects I feel. Here’s why I think so:
1. The likelihood of injury is increased.
2. The combine is more of a measurement of -individual- mechanics and athletic ability.
3. No top prospects would participate in the drills because what happens if the top OL gets beaten by luck or some mistake? The risk is WAY higher than reward.
Leave that stuff to the senior bowl maybe? It does a good job at highlighting under the radar prospects, look at Quinn Meinerz a few years ago :-)
thats what all the time they played college football is for. If you want to see how they do against the defense go watch their game highlights. Also better than a 1v1 you get how they play in the actual game. crazy how that works.
They got the game film for all that
The senior bowl is the closest to that.
Christian Gonzales got best feet out there 💯
4.3s starting to look normal🥴
Right you got LBs running 4.3s now
Gonzales is smooth
Very Controlled yes my first thought also
Thought the same about Clark Phillips too. Maybe it’s all the routes the pac 12 guys see just from being a passing conference, but their foot work is 🔥
No waisted movement
Both his sisters run on the Colombian olympic track team. Hes got elite genetics
He also had a pet mouse that was quite speedy.
This is a good group of DBs. A good amount might get playing time early on
DJ turner definitely gunna be getting set up good. His form and speed is unbelievable. I know it’s not the fastest of all time but damn that’s good for a combine run!
6’2 running a 4.35 is crazy
Tariq woolen 6’4 4.26 5th round😂
Him weighing 166 lbs helps as well
@@XxOptimalAcesxXI think the op was talking about Ringo, Forbes is just under 6’1 so he probably didn’t mean him.
@@edsondebarros5975 Randy Moss aka SuperFreak 6'4(1/2), 4.25, ran a 4.15 hand timed multiple times. Megatron 6'5, 4.33.
Tariq Woolen is a freak but he isn't the same caliber of pure transcendent athlete like Moss or Megatron.
@@edsondebarros5975 HOW THE HELL did he fall to the 5th round???
Still crazy to think I was neighbors with Kelee at one point. Proud of him 🙌🏼
Balled up with #51 Ty jones everyday lol broo was a beast at bball lol jack bulick prk in Fontana great to see 👌
Cam Smith & Darius Rush🙌🏾🙌🏾 Gamecock Boys🤙🏾🤙🏾
It's going to be a pretty interesting draft
Most think it’s a weak draft but a lot of hidden gems 💎 from what I see
I really want my Eagles to get either Christian Gonzalez, Devon Weatherspoon, or Joey Porter JR as our cornerback 1!
I agree 100%
darius slay buddy don’t get too greedy
CB 2
Reminder that Mahomes is the GOAT and owns Philly.
Eagles need to resign people and then see what they need the most. They have a crazy amount of free agents
Can already hear the announcers, say “Riley Moss is just an hustle player and scrappy, will be one hell of a slot receiver or safety”.
"He moved up the Forbes list" was funny
0:59 ringo with the track and field lean🔥
So, a year later all those sub sub 4,4 times by the elite track stars playing DB in the NFL, and Brian Branch, Mr. 4,58 40 yard dash is the best rookie drafted. This only serves once again to emphasize that what you can run on a track is not as important as how fast you can react to a play during game time. Branch 's instincts are elite, and his ability to recognize where the ball is going is elite, and his ability to close on the ball is else, and his ability to deliver a hit and complete a tackle are elite. The rest is just flash...
For r/Commanders on Forbes
Line Drill: 2:16
"M" or "W" Drill: 5:50
Teryl Austin Drill: 8:13
Clark Phillips the most complete corner in draft.
I disagree i think its Emmanuel forbes , he just needs 20lbs lol
Mekhi Blackmon looked awesome 👏
These DBs are fast as hell. 4:27?! Woe. 😳🏈💨
Christian Gonzalez stood out to me
stacked class.
Bless up❤
I think DBs are the best athletes on the football field. The ability to back peddle, change direction and explode at full speed is not easy.
Liked the look of J. Martin, Hellams, Daniel Scott, C. Mitchell. Deep class for CB for sure. Safety has some good guys also.
Illinois ⭐️ Jartavius Martin & Sydney Brown ⭐️
Emmanuel Forbes will be the best CB out of this class
Hes gotta put on some weight. He will get absolutely run over if he cant put on 15 ish more pounds
@@brianzmolek5527 CBs don’t get paid to tackle. He need to perfect his game not put on weight. Gaining weight and strength comes natural at every level
@@334ben10 If you're on the defensive side of the ball, you are a liability if you cant tackle. When you have that small of a frame it simply increases the risk for people to run you over. I hope he does well in coverage, but he would need to be completely lockdown in order to justify his current weight in my opinion.
Yeah My Fav CB In This Class Too A Young More Athletic Marcus Peters Would LOVE For Him To Be His Possible Replacement 😈😈
@@brianzmolek5527 CBs don’t get paid to tackle period. No cb is faulted for bad tackling, but if course it a plus. As long as he willing to be physical size don’t matter for most CBs. The avg NFL CB weight is 193, he weight in at 181. You putting more into then what it is
What does running straight line in shorts and running shoes have to do with covering a receiver? Wouldn't it make more sense to run in full pads, helmet and cleats since that is what they will be wearing on the field?
Fact’s I’ve been thinking that
It’s nice to see raw speed. I don’t think it should receive such an emphasis that it gets, but it’s def a nice evaluation.
DJ Turner 4.27! Sheesh!🔥🔥🔥
Those DB’s we’re flying
Dougie P. (Doug Peterson is a very smart coach and boy am I glad we have him on the Jags for a long time
He's definitely going to get us to the promised land 🙏😍🤫
Bless up
Some of these DBs on the full combine video where running 4.5 and 4.6 way too much. I’m pretty sure they’re faster than that but let’s see what they can do on that field, that’s where the real beast come out!!!
One of them is Julius Brents. The thing is, is that he’s 6’3 with a long wingspan doesn’t have to be as fast. Harder to get it over his hands.
Excited to see RT22 anywhere tbh, the way he's hitting, he's a dawg!
I wanna hear real experienced NFL players commentate the combine. Who has experience
These kids are all fast as hell lmao
Forbes is the best Corner in this class, there is no doubt in my mind. He is quicker as Gonzalez, Porter, Ringo, he has long arms and is a ballhawk. He has multiple NCAA and SEC records and didnt allow a single TD last season with a very hard schedule.
#HAILSTATE
I wonder which one of these 💎’s Veach is gonna land in the draft
This is the most physical db group I've seen in a while...
If your db leads the team in tackling means they love the physicality
Please Please Please get Emmanuel Forbes, Baltimore!
I'd be cool with Christian Gonzales as well, but Forbes really fits the Ravens style of play...
Jalin Hyatt and Rakim Jarrett bout to💨 that 40 today!!!!
I wanted Steelers to get Forbes at 32 or 49 but he might’ve just put himself in the top 25
He measured at 166lb, pretty sure he wont go top 25.
@@s.l.6674 He wont but a solid day 2 man, in all reality he needs to gain weight because people with his profile under 170 aren't too great in the nfl, best right now is like isah Rodgers who aint even starting
you were right. commanders!
18:34 did anybody hear what I hear ? 🤔🤨
Emmanuel Forbes is bby sauce Gardner
Sorry just learning more about safeties and skinner has the torn pec
Gonzales is the future
riley Miss out of Iowa is NICE!
We gonna start seeing 4.1s in the next 5 years
Ringos time was slower than I expected
He ran a 4.3 how is that slow wtf
González and Branch tho. Sheesh
Wow, he’s fast
Which one lol
C Gonzalez looks good
Evening class;
What collage is the one lance boykins has
Nice 👍
Can’t wait until the running backs
No post of Cory trice?
jason taylor ii is gonna be a stud
Eagles gotta take a Corner. Porter Jr or Oregon kid
minnesota 👋
I WILL BE HERE ONE DAY
I prefer defensive chest workouts but to each their own
Did Witherspoon participate today?
COME ON MIAMI!!! We need THE U to make a come back, they are not looking represented here.
They quick
Antonio johnson late round draft steal
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
10:35 lowkey think bro ran faster then a 4.5😭
In the screen his head passes the line at 4.27 😳
Saints gotta grab Forbes Brent’s Brown or Joseph
Hope the Vikings get Forbes in the 1st round. That’s Baby Sauce Gardner.
How Hellams get a combine invite? Gave up 4 tubs to one player
Washington Here Porter Jr ,Gonzalez, Forbes, Clark III
Is it just me or are DBs average speed just gotten alot quicker
Christian Gonzalez or porter Jr will be the best calling it now
Picking the top rated CB of the draft seems easy
@@JohnSmith-ls5kb Ringo will win rookie of the year
Forbes
Witherspoon 😊
Ringo looks hungry
Forbes is too skinny I feel like he is an injury risk for sure I don't think he is gonna enjoy tackling running backs but he might be great in coverage with his length
Cory Trice gon be a problem
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30
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Panthers need Mehki
Where's Brandon Ezell? Where's Sam Corder-Lee?
My eagles should go for 2 CB in the first..Gonzales then ringo
CB for the 10th overall pick. Trade the 30th for a another 2nd round pick and go Safety and DE!!
Niners gettn gonzalez fasho
Brian branch #bears #9
Lets go Terps
Riley Moss wherever he goes I will fam boy
This is a really great class of DBs hopefully the Bears can get Clark Phillips in 4-5th
Arquon Bush!
this is where nyj needs to get help
Is it me or have corners just gotten faster on the 40? Remember like 5-10 years ago, there would be like 1 maybe 2 under 4.4. Now I saw 1 over 4.4.......
Yep. I think it’s part of the accessibility of technology, trainers, etc. pretty amazing to see.
Pittsburgh grab Joey porter jr. Please!!
No drills showing Darius Rush. C'mon
Damn
49ers need a CB Rd3
why is there a high pitch in bsckground
I thought i was going crazy
A lot struggle finding the ball at its highest point.
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