Here's my take on the V-Strom. It's not trying to compete with the big boys. The V-Strom, in some ways, has been stereotyped as being the 'cheap' adventure bike. It's far from that. It has character! Comfortable, reliable, and has plenty of power. I have an R1200GSA 2019, and I'm now selling my GSA to buy a 23 1050. Why? Because it makes sense. I've had issues with my GSA only after 2 months of ownership. I tested the 1050 on Friday, and I felt more at home on it, not the mention. It's £700+ cheaper a year on insurance(£950) than my GSA(£1650). Service costs are also half. People get caught up on numbers, etc. It's got to be the most reliable adventure bike out there, and if I'm halfway across the world, I'd like to know it'll get me home. Yes, it's no 1290SAS or V4S Multistrada, but it won't break down 😅. I'm only 27, and I fell into the GS trap. I own one and can honestly say, "Yes, they are good bikes, but it's an 'image'." And image I no longer want to be apart off. Another great review. Keep it up, Dan ❤
You won't regret it. I'm on a 2020 vstrom 1050 XT and it has never let me down. Been to the south of France twice, it sleeps outside, I use it year-round in the UK. It's a workhorse.
@borisj Once my 1 year of insurance is up. I'll be selling the GSA. I'd sell it now, but as I'm a new rider, I get 4 months into the insurance and cancel it. So, 7 months left. Not only that, my insurance halves after 1 year. I am very tempted just to buy a Strom and leave the GSA wrapped up.
well said brother. we’re of same age, and I’m eyeing on the image of having a GS here in PH. But I have the same after thought. Would I go for an everyday ride or every month at the dealer’s servicing center..
The best thing about the v-strom is that it’s a bike that’s comfortable in its own shoes. Consistently uses a reliable motor, nice riding position. I hope to own one eventually.
Great job Dan. I have the black '23 one with a black widow 400 mm tail can and its just perfect for me. Had a GSX-S1000 GT before and just wanted a little more comfort. It handles so well, brakes are amazing - i love it.
I’ve owned 2 V-Stroms, a 2019 DL1000 and a 2021 1050XT. I covered around 20,000 miles with zero problems. Did the NC500 on the 1050XT last year and it was super comfortable. I agree they handle really well. The only reason I swapped to a 1250 GS this year was due to the lack of high-end options on Suzukis (like electronic suspension, heated seat, connected TFT, SOS system, shaft drive etc.). I think if Suzuki add the new GX electronic suspension to the V-Strom next year and give it a bit more power it could be a cracking bike. That 7 year warranty (as long as you get it dealer serviced) is a real plus point if you’re the sort of person who buys a bike and keeps it for a while. Great review, keep up the great work 👍
Each person has different needs;). As for me I do like suzuki that it does NOT put so many electronics. And I keep fingers crossed they continue with that manner. As for me the less amount of electronics the easier bike is to fix and more reliable. Which is very important when I'm in long journey. I even prefer the analogue meters over electronic, but that's not possible these days. Like said: everyone has different preferences;)
I have an r1200gs and a 1050xt. I bought the 1050xt new. I plan to ride it for life. It's a good tool that rarely breaks down. The gs requires a lot of work and the engine sounds like it's broken, but I'm kind of attached to it. The xt is more useful and powerful than the gs.
Enjoyed your review. I was a suzuki mechanic in the early 80's! (1st Katana came out). Big fan since. Have current gen wee. third one. Many other bikes too. 66yo, 6'2". I find the wee has all the power I need. However the comfort is not there for me now and thinking cruise would be nice, I am gonna try a grip cruise soon. I have looked at after market windshields for 1050 and appears there is a solution there for me. I LOVE the way a 90 degree twin JUMPS. I have ridden a 1000 verseys, Yam 900, and owned a GSX750s. Always liked the 90 degree twin instant throttle repsonse. The 750 was fun/different, but prefered the wee. So I am gonna step up to the 2020-2023 1050. I like the close fit luggage also. I put 100k on a ST1100 honda and figure this will be a comparable touring bike. Lot of blue ones around central texas, like the red. The 800 is super interesting and figure the DE would offer better comfort but would have to figure on getting a BIG ASS windshield and deal with no cruise. Need to sit on one yet. Tks!
G'day from South Australia. My second v strom is a 2014 dl 1000. It's done 92,000km so far without a problem. Great review, and and considering upgrading to a 24 model very soon. I do a lot of dirt, and never ever use the traction control. I find the abs is a bit intrusive on the dirt, after a lifetime of manging my own braking, but definately not a game changer. Happy trails
If you want a do it all bike that will run forever without breaking down (and if it does need fixing won't cost the world) has enough power to thrill you and not enough to kill you, Is a joy to own and has the best aftermarket and dealer support on earth..Get a Vstrom...If you like spending money on things you'll never use and like showing off...get something else.
that is a bold statement , wait until all those electronics corrode and go south, wonder how much a tft dash will cost!!! and it won't work without it , you won't be able to select "mode" and wth is that start button about
I like my bikes with the least amount of electronics as possible. That is why I love my Tenere 700. Barebones minimum junk in it. The more electronics, the higher the chances that some can and will go wrong. That’s not just me saying that, two surveys of motorcycle owners showed that the number one problems with motorcycles is electrical/electronics. A great example of more electrical junk the less reliable the bike is, are BMW bikes. In both surveys BMW was second to last in reliability. With 40% of owners reporting problems with their bikes. Only beaten by CanAm. As a world traveler having a T7 without all that junk gives me peace of mind. It goes without saying that I really don’t care for traction control and electronic suspension. If anyone thinks they need it because it makes them safer, then they need to reevaluate their skills, not their bikes. I’ve been street riding for 37 years and I’ve never crashed or fallen. And I ride rain or shine, day or night. I self thought myself to ride on a GXSR-1100 back in the 80’s, no bull!. The smallest bike I’ve owned is my T7. So I laugh at those who cough up all the money for the traction control and electronic suspensions and all the other junk. Reminds me of those who believe that loud pipes saves lives. Haha! So the fact that this bike doesn’t have electronic suspension, it doesn’t matter to me. My biggest beef with this bike is the looks. I don’t know if to hate it or love it. I know that it is the ugly duckling of the pack, but to a parent it’s beautiful. All I want is a large Adventure/touring bike to travel the US, while leaving my T7 to see the world. Depending on the price comparison between this bike and the Africa Twin, I may get me get me one of these.
Suzuki have become known as the budget brand. Unfortunately this category tends to attract the big spenders and this badge just doesnt cut it in their world.
Yeah, in the bike market they are at the budget end of things. I think they have a place though. I'd like to see a more powerful pure adventure bike from them in the future.
Suzuki have been a budget brand since as long as I remember. They make brilliant bikes, but to a cost. They are not as sexy or refined as other marques, but they will be going strong long after the tech. of other makes has left you stranded. In over 40 years of riding I've never owned a Suzuki, bit my next bike is going to be a 1050, reason being I want to tour without reliability anxiety.
In your mind maybe, but those of us who have owned them for years know they make fantastic bikes, as do all the big 4 jap brands. Honestly, I'd never buy a German or Italian motorcycle. I've heard way too many horror stories from friends and acquaintances regarding them. Hear about the bmw exploding shaft drives? Not fun when you are left stranded half way around the world in Chile and no BMW dealers nearby! What about porous engine casings, unreliable electrics, fragile valvetrain problems? My 23 year old SV650, which I have owned for 22 of those 23 years, is still going strong and has never given me a days trouble. I will buy other bikes to go along side it in the garage but I'll never get rid of it.
Good review, you are absolutely right about the marketing, In the all the years I have been riding and that's a lot, I have been looking at the BMW's and the Triumphs and not given this a second look, I ride a generation 1 Vmax but want a second bike to do a few miles and be more comfortable, I will be test riding one of these.
Cheers Dan, great review. I really like these and part of that is the lack of pretentiousness (probably spelt that wrong) anyway its a simple honest sturdy bike. Enough grunt to have fun with but also a good all rounder. Feel as though im more likely to go camping if I had one of these. I'll wait until im over 40 😊
Great review !!! Simple talk, simple arguments , everybody informed. PS: I have the 2015 DL1000 wich I am very pleased with. But it does not have all the electronics of this one. But I will change it to with this model in the spring, hopefully.
It isn’t as pretty as a Tiger, heated seats or as large a screen, but for its price I Need to have this bike on my tourer list. So I will be test driving it a couple of days before deciding on me and the misses next bike. Nooo, will Not sell my Apeed Twin 1200! That’s a completely different beast. My beast
It's true that far too many people buy bikes according to the spec sheet. A true adventure bike test would have the riders in the saddle for whole days and having the bike for a couple of months to see what the problems were.
Nice review & a decent bike. I guess despite it's competence & value, it's just not sexy or desirable enough, as you say, to be top of most peoples wish list. Plus at face value the numbers aren't impressive enough either. However they don't tell the whole story & you can't ride a spec sheet. Personally I like Suzuki's & always have so I'd be happy ro have one as I know it's bulletproof & won't have cost the earth.
Hi Dan, good review. I’d put this up against the African twin, in the power stakes. A lot of bike for the money. A V twin against a parallel twin! No brainier! Cheers. Pal.
@@DucatiDale well, it’s as we both agree. I own a speed triple 1050 RS. It’s the best bike I ever owned. I have owned it for five years, It’s here for as long as I can get on it. I’m also on my 10th GS.. I love em. I have ridden and the AT, it’s a good bike but, I would never own one.
나는 r1200gs 를 가지고 있지만, 2년 전에 새1050xt를 샀다. 두가지 모두 다른 매력이 있어서 둘 다 타고 있다. 아내와 여행 갈 때엔 gs를 쓰고, 나머지는 1050xt를 쓰기 좋다. 1050xt는 10년 이상 쓸 것 같다 ... 엔진소리도 좋고 기계적 완성도도 좋다.
Una de las mejores maxitrail en calidad precio me encanata esta moto y no entiendo porque no se ven mas en la calle,el motor es una delicia y la estetica preciosa la recomiendo al 1000x1000
I've only ridden the 1050XT which is no longer in production, but other than traction control this is more bike than I need. The V-Strom 650 or new 800RE give more than enough bike, the only benefit of this bike over them from an adventure touring perspective is cruise control. Otherwise this is a bigger, heavier, more expensive bike that uses more fuel.
The Vstrom 800 has horrible wind management, I'd count that as another advantage of the 1050. Also I prefer the aluminum frame of the 1050 for long term ownership - no worries about rust. Then there are the IMU features as well...
@@pinepig the wind thing is pretty personal tbh, I found the 1050XT's screen produced unbearable buffeting above 40mph or so, the 800DE I rode let more wind through but was much more bearable to me in stock form. It is definitely an interesting point that bikes are moving back to steel frames again but I've seen plenty of corrosion on aluminium bits of bikes as well, but at least it tends not to be the obvious orange of iron oxide!
@@Geshmaal I think you'd have a better chance to optimize the 1050 windscreen through the aftermarket than the 800, due to the rake angle. The 800DE starts with a steep angle (going for the rally raid look), and the angle gets considerably worse on the 800RE since it drops the whole front end with the smaller wheel (which also changes the angle of the seat and everything else on the bike). The windscreen/mounts end up nearly vertical, which will never work well regardless of what screen you put on it (unless the screen comes with adjustable brackets for angle perhaps). Another point in favor of the 1050 is the engine smoothness that Dan mentioned, which is due to the perfect primary balance of the 90 degree v-twin. That configuration also results in very little rocking couple. A parallel twin can't match that regardless of the balancer shafts you put in it (which also create their own issues). Given all those perceived advantages for the 1050, I still would have preferred the 800RE (or just Vstrom 800 here in US) due to being less top-heavy and lighter overall. The 800 windscreen is an absolute deal-breaker for me.
@@pinepig I do agree on the smoothness, I definitely felt a buzz through the bars and footpegs on the 800DE. Like the DL800 is a tough match for the current 1050 though, a used 1050XT really is great value as they can be had from about £7k with pretty low mileage. That is probably the sweet spot of bike per £ right now!
Thinking about trading in my 2015 dyna for a 2022 vstrom 1050. Ofcourse looking to test ride first. But wondering. Being 1.71 or 5'7 if the bike might not be to tall for me or not. Any riders my size out there?
English biker Dan is right this bike is a very goodbye and if you put it Yosh Shamira Ken on it it makes a BMW sound sick anemic matter fact I know cause I have one only people have these bikes know just how good they are people stick their nose up at them? They’ll never happy..
I'm only 5'6" so I likely wouldn't be able to ride this. When it comes to bikes being on the short side is definitely a disadvantage and in other areas of life of course.
On the flip side you can ride all those bikes that are far too cramped for those is us above 6’4”. Horses for courses, if I wasn’t so tall (and heavy) I think I’d be very happy on a reasonable naked or modern classic.
If I were to buy a v-strom 1000 which costs £13,200, I would first consider, tiger 900 GT Pro starts at £13,900, , Yamaha Tracer 9 GT(+) starts from £12,500 (£14,600) and the "best " in class BMW R1300 starts from £16,000. The Yamaha has a better engine and is more engaging when riding and the Tiger 900 is, in my opinion, a better one compared to the V-strom. And don't forget the dark horse BMW r1250 RS which starts at £13100, There are many I had considered before I bought the V-strom
Of all those only the Yamaha has a somewhat comparable warranty and the Suzuki comes with seven (7!) years at that. I might value warranties higher than most but it is surely a factor for most people who buy new bikes?
@@DucatiDale Completely concur that the 1250 GS experiences a significant power drop beyond 6k revs. In contrast, the R1300 maintains power consistently throughout the rev range. It effortlessly accelerates even when you're in 3rd gear at 2k revs and decide to hit the gas-a stark contrast to the 1250's response. Following a test ride with the R1300, I must say I'm thoroughly impressed.
Appreciate your content! For me, that's strictly a touring bike, it's not an ADV. I wouldn't even consider a bike that heavy for single track riding, with that big of an engine - major overkill. The 800DE is a LOT more interesting for my needs, as is the Transalp and the Tuareg 660.
It would certainly be completely fine doing single track riding but it's definitely more geared towards comfortable mile munching on tarmac. Thanks for watching!
Test rode a 1050 V-Strom and was left feeling rather underwhelmed. Felt as though it ran out of steam just as I was expecting it to really get going...Though in fairness this could be because I ride a Hayabusa.
I would wholeheartedy disagree, but it depends what you expect from it. It's not an MT09SP, so it won't feel/handle like one. What it IS, as I allude to in the video, is a cracking mile munching tourer with a characterful and reliable engine, that'll put a smile on your face when you throw it at a set of twisties. :)
I won't be trading my Hayabusa for any bike. I might however get an ADV but it won't be the gutless Strom. I reckon the Kawasaki Versys Thou is a better bike. @@1136tscc
Haha, yeah it didn't sit well with me upon reflection as I've always maintained that I give my opinion rather than tell people what to buy. So the new title reflects that better I think. Thanks for the comment! :)
Why build a road focussed touring bike with “only” 160mm of travel, which isn’t much more than the average sports bike, then have a lofty seat height? They could easily have dropped the seat down to 820/830mm. Sure the people with very long legs will like it, for almost everyone else it’ll just be too tall and too heavy. Shame, really.
The V-twin engine is one of the best bits, my 1050XT is characterful and plenty of power. Bland parallel twins are a bit cheaper to make but wider motor and less engaging in my opinion.
Oh Dale, I LOVE riding motorcycles, so I am always having fun, but I do try to find a few faults on every bike I ride. I am sure even the MT09SP has some faults. I try to be genuine in my videos, if I'm having fun and enjoying a bike that's what you'll see. Spoiler alert, most modern bikes are amazing. BTW, you might want to watch my video on Friday. Perhaps even you'll be happy. Ride safe!
i gave up at 3.00m, too many unnecessary gizmos, WHEN these things have problems the dealers will rape you , and they are still too complex for a home mechanic. As for warranty work, the speed these bike dealers operate i hope they have a hire bike for you, no good for your trips though . Probably better off with a low mileage 1st gen and spend the savings on getting it up to scratch, talking about scratch i can't contemplate spending thousands on a bike to go touring as they get absolutely hammered
I think this is one of the more restrained bikes in terms of tech these days. You also get a 7 year dealer activated warranty, so I think it should be fine. I've been touring every year, bike still in good condition. I guess it depends what kind of touring you do! Maybe look at a Royal Enfield if you want simple. Thanks!
@@Englishbikerdan for everything, to commute, to travel, everything... I had more than 30 Bikes over my life, this is just to heavy, maby the 800 RE should be ok, but I have to try it first.
It looks like you are having your look through the screen rather than over it?…is that the case?….just that the screen looks translucent due to weather/road crud!..must affect the old vision…especially on twistys?!! 🫣
My camera is at the bottom of my lid, so I could actually see over the screen. Also the screen was in the highest position so it could be lowered 50mm. But I had no vision issues at all.
Let’s be honest. This powerplant is amazing. Always has been. I have had GS and Tiger both good. For the money this motor is ridiculously good.
Wot the tank range please
Here's my take on the V-Strom.
It's not trying to compete with the big boys.
The V-Strom, in some ways, has been stereotyped as being the 'cheap' adventure bike. It's far from that. It has character! Comfortable, reliable, and has plenty of power.
I have an R1200GSA 2019, and I'm now selling my GSA to buy a 23 1050. Why? Because it makes sense. I've had issues with my GSA only after 2 months of ownership. I tested the 1050 on Friday, and I felt more at home on it, not the mention. It's £700+ cheaper a year on insurance(£950) than my GSA(£1650). Service costs are also half.
People get caught up on numbers, etc.
It's got to be the most reliable adventure bike out there, and if I'm halfway across the world, I'd like to know it'll get me home.
Yes, it's no 1290SAS or V4S Multistrada, but it won't break down 😅. I'm only 27, and I fell into the GS trap. I own one and can honestly say, "Yes, they are good bikes, but it's an 'image'." And image I no longer want to be apart off.
Another great review. Keep it up, Dan ❤
You won't regret it. I'm on a 2020 vstrom 1050 XT and it has never let me down. Been to the south of France twice, it sleeps outside, I use it year-round in the UK. It's a workhorse.
@@borisj how are the spokes? getting rusty?
I sold my 2008 with 96k miles zero issues, oil change and brakes e light bulbs....the most reliable bike you can buy.
@borisj Once my 1 year of insurance is up. I'll be selling the GSA. I'd sell it now, but as I'm a new rider, I get 4 months into the insurance and cancel it. So, 7 months left. Not only that, my insurance halves after 1 year. I am very tempted just to buy a Strom and leave the GSA wrapped up.
well said brother. we’re of same age, and I’m eyeing on the image of having a GS here in PH. But I have the same after thought. Would I go for an everyday ride or every month at the dealer’s servicing center..
rode this, a tracer 9, a 790 ktm and well, the 1050 got me. Got a lovely blue one for 3 months and put some 5000 kms on it. I just love it :))
i am surprised that you were attracted by 1050 after you rode a tracer 9 :)
@@tamero52 well, I guess different tastes :)
The best thing about the v-strom is that it’s a bike that’s comfortable in its own shoes. Consistently uses a reliable motor, nice riding position. I hope to own one eventually.
Proper sized front mudguard too, great bike, looking for one now.
Nice one Dan, a lot of bike for the money there! My first big bike was the SV1000S and I loved it!
Have a good weekend 😎👍🏻
Great job Dan. I have the black '23 one with a black widow 400 mm tail can and its just perfect for me. Had a GSX-S1000 GT before and just wanted a little more comfort. It handles so well, brakes are amazing - i love it.
I’ve owned 2 V-Stroms, a 2019 DL1000 and a 2021 1050XT. I covered around 20,000 miles with zero problems. Did the NC500 on the 1050XT last year and it was super comfortable. I agree they handle really well. The only reason I swapped to a 1250 GS this year was due to the lack of high-end options on Suzukis (like electronic suspension, heated seat, connected TFT, SOS system, shaft drive etc.). I think if Suzuki add the new GX electronic suspension to the V-Strom next year and give it a bit more power it could be a cracking bike. That 7 year warranty (as long as you get it dealer serviced) is a real plus point if you’re the sort of person who buys a bike and keeps it for a while. Great review, keep up the great work 👍
Each person has different needs;). As for me I do like suzuki that it does NOT put so many electronics. And I keep fingers crossed they continue with that manner.
As for me the less amount of electronics the easier bike is to fix and more reliable. Which is very important when I'm in long journey. I even prefer the analogue meters over electronic, but that's not possible these days.
Like said: everyone has different preferences;)
Great review Dan. I pick my one up this coming Saturday. It’s a no brainier really. 2.9% APR £750 of accessories and free heated grips until January!
Wow that's a great deal! Enjoy the bike!
About to pick up the de version next week. It's 4.9% now, but has 2k off the list price and comes with the panniers too. Can't wait to get it.
I have an r1200gs and a 1050xt. I bought the 1050xt new. I plan to ride it for life. It's a good tool that rarely breaks down. The gs requires a lot of work and the engine sounds like it's broken, but I'm kind of attached to it. The xt is more useful and powerful than the gs.
Brilliant bike, like it a lot
Enjoyed your review. I was a suzuki mechanic in the early 80's! (1st Katana came out). Big fan since. Have current gen wee. third one. Many other bikes too. 66yo, 6'2". I find the wee has all the power I need. However the comfort is not there for me now and thinking cruise would be nice, I am gonna try a grip cruise soon. I have looked at after market windshields for 1050 and appears there is a solution there for me. I LOVE the way a 90 degree twin JUMPS. I have ridden a 1000 verseys, Yam 900, and owned a GSX750s. Always liked the 90 degree twin instant throttle repsonse. The 750 was fun/different, but prefered the wee. So I am gonna step up to the 2020-2023 1050. I like the close fit luggage also. I put 100k on a ST1100 honda and figure this will be a comparable touring bike. Lot of blue ones around central texas, like the red. The 800 is super interesting and figure the DE would offer better comfort but would have to figure on getting a BIG ASS windshield and deal with no cruise. Need to sit on one yet. Tks!
Thanks for that Dan, sealed the deal, I'm chopping my bike for one tomorrow!! 👍👍👍
G'day from South Australia. My second v strom is a 2014 dl 1000. It's done 92,000km so far without a problem. Great review, and and considering upgrading to a 24 model very soon. I do a lot of dirt, and never ever use the traction control. I find the abs is a bit intrusive on the dirt, after a lifetime of manging my own braking, but definately not a game changer. Happy trails
Owner of the 2002 model dl1000 the only thing I can say is bulletproof engine. Mine is going up to 93 horsepower on the wheel. 😊
you probably have the better bike
great review cheers from thailand
If you want a do it all bike that will run forever without breaking down (and if it does need fixing won't cost the world) has enough power to thrill you and not enough to kill you, Is a joy to own and has the best aftermarket and dealer support on earth..Get a Vstrom...If you like spending money on things you'll never use and like showing off...get something else.
that is a bold statement , wait until all those electronics corrode and go south, wonder how much a tft dash will cost!!! and it won't work without it , you won't be able to select "mode" and wth is that start button about
V-twins are inherently well balanced, at least the 90-degree ones
Great bike. Hard to pass up for adventure touring.
I like my bikes with the least amount of electronics as possible. That is why I love my Tenere 700. Barebones minimum junk in it. The more electronics, the higher the chances that some can and will go wrong.
That’s not just me saying that, two surveys of motorcycle owners showed that the number one problems with motorcycles is electrical/electronics. A great example of more electrical junk the less reliable the bike is, are BMW bikes. In both surveys BMW was second to last in reliability. With 40% of owners reporting problems with their bikes. Only beaten by CanAm. As a world traveler having a T7 without all that junk gives me peace of mind.
It goes without saying that I really don’t care for traction control and electronic suspension. If anyone thinks they need it because it makes them safer, then they need to reevaluate their skills, not their bikes.
I’ve been street riding for 37 years and I’ve never crashed or fallen. And I ride rain or shine, day or night. I self thought myself to ride on a GXSR-1100 back in the 80’s, no bull!. The smallest bike I’ve owned is my T7. So I laugh at those who cough up all the money for the traction control and electronic suspensions and all the other junk. Reminds me of those who believe that loud pipes saves lives. Haha!
So the fact that this bike doesn’t have electronic suspension, it doesn’t matter to me. My biggest beef with this bike is the looks. I don’t know if to hate it or love it. I know that it is the ugly duckling of the pack, but to a parent it’s beautiful. All I want is a large Adventure/touring bike to travel the US, while leaving my T7 to see the world. Depending on the price comparison between this bike and the Africa Twin, I may get me get me one of these.
Suzuki have become known as the budget brand. Unfortunately this category tends to attract the big spenders and this badge just doesnt cut it in their world.
Yeah, in the bike market they are at the budget end of things. I think they have a place though. I'd like to see a more powerful pure adventure bike from them in the future.
@@EnglishbikerdanI like the brand especially as my bike days began in the 80's. Yes there needs to be options at both ends of the scale.
Suzuki have been a budget brand since as long as I remember. They make brilliant bikes, but to a cost. They are not as sexy or refined as other marques, but they will be going strong long after the tech. of other makes has left you stranded. In over 40 years of riding I've never owned a Suzuki, bit my next bike is going to be a 1050, reason being I want to tour without reliability anxiety.
In your mind maybe, but those of us who have owned them for years know they make fantastic bikes, as do all the big 4 jap brands.
Honestly, I'd never buy a German or Italian motorcycle. I've heard way too many horror stories from friends and acquaintances regarding them. Hear about the bmw exploding shaft drives? Not fun when you are left stranded half way around the world in Chile and no BMW dealers nearby! What about porous engine casings, unreliable electrics, fragile valvetrain problems?
My 23 year old SV650, which I have owned for 22 of those 23 years, is still going strong and has never given me a days trouble. I will buy other bikes to go along side it in the garage but I'll never get rid of it.
More fool them
The old 1050 was a fabulous bike. The new one has fancy clocked, etc. As long as you're tall enough....I'm not, quite, it great vfm.
That reconstruction😂😂😂
My good lady edited this vid. She's funny! 😂
Good review, you are absolutely right about the marketing, In the all the years I have been riding and that's a lot, I have been looking at the BMW's and the Triumphs and not given this a second look, I ride a generation 1 Vmax but want a second bike to do a few miles and be more comfortable, I will be test riding one of these.
Cheers Dan, great review. I really like these and part of that is the lack of pretentiousness (probably spelt that wrong) anyway its a simple honest sturdy bike. Enough grunt to have fun with but also a good all rounder. Feel as though im more likely to go camping if I had one of these. I'll wait until im over 40 😊
Great review !!! Simple talk, simple arguments , everybody informed.
PS: I have the 2015 DL1000 wich I am very pleased with. But it does not have all the electronics of this one.
But I will change it to with this model in the spring, hopefully.
Thanks for the Review! How do the ergos compare to the 1050DE?
It isn’t as pretty as a Tiger, heated seats or as large a screen, but for its price I Need to have this bike on my tourer list. So I will be test driving it a couple of days before deciding on me and the misses next bike.
Nooo, will Not sell my Apeed Twin 1200! That’s a completely different beast. My beast
It's true that far too many people buy bikes according to the spec sheet. A true adventure bike test would have the riders in the saddle for whole days and having the bike for a couple of months to see what the problems were.
So difficult to build a bike like this and not have a high seat height.
This is a good one Dan! Film or bike? Both!
Nice review & a decent bike. I guess despite it's competence & value, it's just not sexy or desirable enough, as you say, to be top of most peoples wish list. Plus at face value the numbers aren't impressive enough either. However they don't tell the whole story & you can't ride a spec sheet. Personally I like Suzuki's & always have so I'd be happy ro have one as I know it's bulletproof & won't have cost the earth.
Hi Dan, good review. I’d put this up against the African twin, in the power stakes. A lot of bike for the money. A V twin against a parallel twin! No brainier! Cheers. Pal.
@@DucatiDale so it should fit the price..
Cos faster is always better? Right.
@@DucatiDale comes down to your own choice, I guess.
@@DucatiDale well, it’s as we both agree. I own a speed triple 1050 RS. It’s the best bike I ever owned. I have owned it for five years, It’s here for as long as I can get on it. I’m also on my 10th GS.. I love em. I have ridden and the AT, it’s a good bike but, I would never own one.
나는 r1200gs 를 가지고 있지만, 2년 전에 새1050xt를 샀다. 두가지 모두 다른 매력이 있어서 둘 다 타고 있다. 아내와 여행 갈 때엔 gs를 쓰고, 나머지는 1050xt를 쓰기 좋다. 1050xt는 10년 이상 쓸 것 같다 ... 엔진소리도 좋고 기계적 완성도도 좋다.
Una de las mejores maxitrail en calidad precio me encanata esta moto y no entiendo porque no se ven mas en la calle,el motor es una delicia y la estetica preciosa la recomiendo al 1000x1000
En Francia se ven unas cuantas. En España todo lo que no sea GS…
@@etdbsub0 pues yo tengo una flamante vstrom 1050 y soy muy feliz
@@etdbsub0 los españoles somos muy especiales y los franceses ahí,con mejor mentalidad más razonable
I wonder why Yamaha hasn't updated their big Tenere 1200 like Suzuki has done with the V-Storm.
I have a KTM 1290superduk gt with the cruise control button on the right hand side
It drives me mad,
My bike is 2017,
Later ones have it on the left,
I couldn’t agree more!👍
ABS can only be turned off on the DE , The road vesion you cant turn it off , unless someone knows otherwise , about 5 n in
I've only ridden the 1050XT which is no longer in production, but other than traction control this is more bike than I need. The V-Strom 650 or new 800RE give more than enough bike, the only benefit of this bike over them from an adventure touring perspective is cruise control. Otherwise this is a bigger, heavier, more expensive bike that uses more fuel.
The Vstrom 800 has horrible wind management, I'd count that as another advantage of the 1050. Also I prefer the aluminum frame of the 1050 for long term ownership - no worries about rust. Then there are the IMU features as well...
It's funny, the 800 RE is so good at what it does, that I see that as the biggest rival to this.
@@pinepig the wind thing is pretty personal tbh, I found the 1050XT's screen produced unbearable buffeting above 40mph or so, the 800DE I rode let more wind through but was much more bearable to me in stock form. It is definitely an interesting point that bikes are moving back to steel frames again but I've seen plenty of corrosion on aluminium bits of bikes as well, but at least it tends not to be the obvious orange of iron oxide!
@@Geshmaal I think you'd have a better chance to optimize the 1050 windscreen through the aftermarket than the 800, due to the rake angle. The 800DE starts with a steep angle (going for the rally raid look), and the angle gets considerably worse on the 800RE since it drops the whole front end with the smaller wheel (which also changes the angle of the seat and everything else on the bike). The windscreen/mounts end up nearly vertical, which will never work well regardless of what screen you put on it (unless the screen comes with adjustable brackets for angle perhaps).
Another point in favor of the 1050 is the engine smoothness that Dan mentioned, which is due to the perfect primary balance of the 90 degree v-twin. That configuration also results in very little rocking couple. A parallel twin can't match that regardless of the balancer shafts you put in it (which also create their own issues). Given all those perceived advantages for the 1050, I still would have preferred the 800RE (or just Vstrom 800 here in US) due to being less top-heavy and lighter overall. The 800 windscreen is an absolute deal-breaker for me.
@@pinepig I do agree on the smoothness, I definitely felt a buzz through the bars and footpegs on the 800DE. Like the DL800 is a tough match for the current 1050 though, a used 1050XT really is great value as they can be had from about £7k with pretty low mileage. That is probably the sweet spot of bike per £ right now!
Thinking about trading in my 2015 dyna for a 2022 vstrom 1050. Ofcourse looking to test ride first. But wondering. Being 1.71 or 5'7 if the bike might not be to tall for me or not. Any riders my size out there?
English biker Dan is right this bike is a very goodbye and if you put it Yosh Shamira Ken on it it makes a BMW sound sick anemic matter fact I know cause I have one only people have these bikes know just how good they are people stick their nose up at them? They’ll never happy..
Good review ! ty
Thank you for watching!
I'm only 5'6" so I likely wouldn't be able to ride this. When it comes to bikes being on the short side is definitely a disadvantage and in other areas of life of course.
On the flip side you can ride all those bikes that are far too cramped for those is us above 6’4”. Horses for courses, if I wasn’t so tall (and heavy) I think I’d be very happy on a reasonable naked or modern classic.
MPG?
Around 50ish, depending how I rode it.
I'm so torn between this and a Super Tenere.
If I were to buy a v-strom 1000 which costs £13,200, I would first consider, tiger 900 GT Pro starts at £13,900, , Yamaha Tracer 9 GT(+) starts from £12,500 (£14,600) and the "best " in class BMW R1300 starts from £16,000. The Yamaha has a better engine and is more engaging when riding and the Tiger 900 is, in my opinion, a better one compared to the V-strom. And don't forget the dark horse BMW r1250 RS which starts at £13100, There are many I had considered before I bought the V-strom
Tracer 9GT+ is masterpiece
Of all those only the Yamaha has a somewhat comparable warranty and the Suzuki comes with seven (7!) years at that. I might value warranties higher than most but it is surely a factor for most people who buy new bikes?
Can remember of the top of my head on the bikes mentioned, but seat height on the vstrom could be an important consideration for some.
@pcarragher6025 V-strom 1050 Seat Height is 855 mm (33.7 in.)
@@DucatiDale Completely concur that the 1250 GS experiences a significant power drop beyond 6k revs. In contrast, the R1300 maintains power consistently throughout the rev range. It effortlessly accelerates even when you're in 3rd gear at 2k revs and decide to hit the gas-a stark contrast to the 1250's response. Following a test ride with the R1300, I must say I'm thoroughly impressed.
Appreciate your content! For me, that's strictly a touring bike, it's not an ADV. I wouldn't even consider a bike that heavy for single track riding, with that big of an engine - major overkill. The 800DE is a LOT more interesting for my needs, as is the Transalp and the Tuareg 660.
It would certainly be completely fine doing single track riding but it's definitely more geared towards comfortable mile munching on tarmac. Thanks for watching!
Test rode a 1050 V-Strom and was left feeling rather underwhelmed. Felt as though it ran out of steam just as I was expecting it to really get going...Though in fairness this could be because I ride a Hayabusa.
I would wholeheartedy disagree, but it depends what you expect from it. It's not an MT09SP, so it won't feel/handle like one. What it IS, as I allude to in the video, is a cracking mile munching tourer with a characterful and reliable engine, that'll put a smile on your face when you throw it at a set of twisties. :)
Then try a Hayabusa...you'll see what I mean about "felt as though it ran out of steam"@@Englishbikerdan
Sold my hayabusa for one. Best trade, opened up my riding to gravel roads, made my motorcycle world twice as big
I won't be trading my Hayabusa for any bike. I might however get an ADV but it won't be the gutless Strom. I reckon the Kawasaki Versys Thou is a better bike. @@1136tscc
I think I'd be more drawn to the new Tiger 900.
Fair enough! I find that T plane engine too vibey for long distance stuff.
@@Englishbikerdan But then I'm in Multistrada territory so that'd be my pick - thanks to your excellent reviews.
V2? I found it rather dull which was a huge surprise. Probably the most disappointing bike I've ridden. 🙁
Interesting as yes, that was on the list. Another at the top of my list is the new Stelvio.
我还在努力挣钱买它！但是中国关于摩托有13年强制报废的政策，这很让人头疼！
Only chads remember the original title 😢
Haha, yeah it didn't sit well with me upon reflection as I've always maintained that I give my opinion rather than tell people what to buy. So the new title reflects that better I think. Thanks for the comment! :)
Why build a road focussed touring bike with “only” 160mm of travel, which isn’t much more than the average sports bike, then have a lofty seat height? They could easily have dropped the seat down to 820/830mm. Sure the people with very long legs will like it, for almost everyone else it’ll just be too tall and too heavy. Shame, really.
You can get a low seat.
Isn't the engine a bit boring?
The V-twin engine is one of the best bits, my 1050XT is characterful and plenty of power. Bland parallel twins are a bit cheaper to make but wider motor and less engaging in my opinion.
@@timdobby5365 it's been a while since I last tried a 1050, but I remember it as "not possible to scare myself with".
@@DucatiDale that feeling is a downside of driving MT09 to the dealer, even though mine isn't an SP.
I didn't think it was, fun to ride and surprisingly agile in the twisty bits. We all like what we like though.
Oh Dale, I LOVE riding motorcycles, so I am always having fun, but I do try to find a few faults on every bike I ride. I am sure even the MT09SP has some faults. I try to be genuine in my videos, if I'm having fun and enjoying a bike that's what you'll see. Spoiler alert, most modern bikes are amazing. BTW, you might want to watch my video on Friday. Perhaps even you'll be happy. Ride safe!
For your own safety, more respect on those unclassified roads, grip is poor, farmers entrances and oncoming vehicles taking too much room.
Thanks for your concern John. 👍
i gave up at 3.00m, too many unnecessary gizmos, WHEN these things have problems the dealers will rape you , and they are still too complex for a home mechanic. As for warranty work, the speed these bike dealers operate i hope they have a hire bike for you, no good for your trips though . Probably better off with a low mileage 1st gen and spend the savings on getting it up to scratch, talking about scratch i can't contemplate spending thousands on a bike to go touring as they get absolutely hammered
I think this is one of the more restrained bikes in terms of tech these days. You also get a 7 year dealer activated warranty, so I think it should be fine. I've been touring every year, bike still in good condition. I guess it depends what kind of touring you do! Maybe look at a Royal Enfield if you want simple. Thanks!
And then 7 days later, you bought a Yamaha, lol. Suzuki will probably never lend you another test bike for this mate...............
242kg! is too heavy.
Too heavy for what?
@@Englishbikerdan for everything, to commute, to travel, everything... I had more than 30 Bikes over my life, this is just to heavy, maby the 800 RE should be ok, but I have to try it first.
I mean, it's not as I've done all of that without issue. If you mean it's too heavy for you, then that's fair enough. @@pbrigham
Just can't stand that beak....
It's like there is an ugliest bike competition among many brands these days...
I liked the 2014-2015 stroms look the best.
I kinda like it. Goes well with the headlight. But different tastes of course
It's tall, large, heavy, and not for normal riders.
No such thing thing as normal though. I'm average height and enjoyed the bike a lot.
@Englishbikerdan Hope you enjoy taking it on a bush track, in some sand, and dropping it a couple of times.
Just for us super heroes then. 😂
I thought it was bike test not comercials... lame
Did you watch a different video? 😂
Make sure you grind the dirt and debris into the paint too.
It looks like you are having your look through the screen rather than over it?…is that the case?….just that the screen looks translucent due to weather/road crud!..must affect the old vision…especially on twistys?!! 🫣
My camera is at the bottom of my lid, so I could actually see over the screen. Also the screen was in the highest position so it could be lowered 50mm. But I had no vision issues at all.