Thanks for the shout out brother. More than grateful to say the least. Your one of the most humble, genuine love for the tool, and honest channels I’ve come across with absolutely amazing informative content and that’s why I’ll always stick around here. Your videos consistently get better and better. We hear about metabo hpt from others. Saying that they are underrated and overlooked like you mentioned, but we really truly don’t grasp and understand that until we hold one of their tools in our hand. Then it all becomes clear. I’d throw metabo hpt up against any of the big dogs in the Industry any day. May not be the most powerful always but power is not everything. Thanks again buddy. Much love to you and your family. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and God bless my friend 👊
I’ve been running Hitachi for at least 20 years daily. I swear by them. I am an aluminum jet boat builder and carpenter. Nothing but abuse and they keep on going. Just buy the more industrial line. You can tell which line is which easily now, get the brushless. These tools have seen the likes of Makita, Milwaukee, DeWalt etc go up in smoke beside them. Highly underrated brand. They are produced under a few names now due to a buy out by a holdings company. Formerly Hitachi, they can be found under Metabo HPT in North America or Hikoki in Europe and Australia.
It’s all I buy. Bought an impact about 15 years ago and was hooked. Have the new triple hammer, that hammer drill, rear handle circular saw, 9 batteries and 4 chargers. Have 4 chorded tools, 6 gallon pancake compressor and 16 gauge nailer. All have been fantastic
I have had good luck with the brand. I have had a mixture of the older Hitachi tools and some of the newer Metabo HPT and even a Hikoki model in there and they have all been great.
Just picked up the 36v hammerdrill, mid torque impact wrench and the cordless compressor and 2 additional 4.0/8.0 batts,,very impressed, the mid torque impact is an absolute beast
I got this drill for a song and a dance. It's my favorite for a heavy duty drill. Ergonomics, sound, speed/trigger control, all great! Ended up getting the 7-1/4 rear handle and sawzall. They are MONSTERS.
😢severely underrated! I’m glad they are getting more shine recently… and I preach about HPT tools constantly. Just picked up the rear handle circ saw this past week, and upgraded to the 36v triple hammer and hammer drill on some clearance deals recently. My introduction to the line was using their 36v beast of a recip saw doing some demo work… and I was a fan instantly, and started picking them up. Just got my contractor buddy into them last year and he’s all in now, lol. The only tool of theirs I wasn’t impressed with is the super beefy multi-tool, it’s bulky and meh on power. If they come with a 36v version of that and a jigsaw, and grow the line… they’d be my number #1, but they are a super strong #2 (Milwaukee #1, HPT #2, makita #3, and dewalt #4)
Each of those brands has some tools that I really love and each one has some duds unfortunately. But I agree with you... Metabo HPT isn't perfect but they have a number of tools that really shine!
@@devonboyer626 In my opinion… the best deal of the year so far! Bought one to keep the circ saw and sell the rest… and a second one just to sell since it was such a good deal (getting them separately is $600). 😬
I bought my first impact/drill kit in 2019. Happened to be when they were rebranding the Hitachis. They performed really well so I decided might as well buy a sawzall and everything went on clearance so I bought a circular saw also. I still use the exact same ones from 3 years ago daily. Yes I have bought many more Metabo tools but still using the ogs.
I just got the Metabo Isolating tool and 21 degree framing nailer. Both are great tools which I got both at Lowe's on the buy more save more. I will be getting more Metabo tools. This video has great information thanks for sharing.
I seriously considered going with metabo a couple of years ago when I decided to switch platforms. The automotive tools at the time just didn’t impress me, but this drill certainly does.
They're as good as anything else on the market. Better warranty. Usually cheaper. Great service center, if needed in GA. My only wish is they would offer more automotive tools, inflators, ratchets, etc. But everything I have green is a joy to use.
Yeah, they could do with an expanded lineup but i also think they need a place where they get more visibility... which would hopefully increase sales. I don't necessarily love their entry level tools but the upper tier have all been excellent.
@@TinkerWithTools their entry level is better than DeWalt or Milwaukee or especially Makita entry level. Those are hot garbage. You want entry level, go Kobalt. Everything is Brushless atleast. Totally agree on visibility. They're much, much better than one back, dusty corner at Lowe's.
The triple hammer has its flaws though they did redesign it now but this drill has been rock solid for me the best I used. No chuck issues just a little heavy compared to Milwaukee but Milwaukee drills have always failed on me except the mini with the small batteries has always been solid
Hey, love your videos so far! I really liked the video graphic you used for the intro in the Makita vs Milwaukee hammer drill episode you made recently. Very unique and cool, you should keep doing that 👍 Also awesome intro music 👍
What is the threading on the side handle? Looks like maybe standard 5/16 inch. Does it go all the way through from one side to the other? This tool is screaming "buy me!" Because the side handle mount looks great for my application. This version is still on their website, with bigger capacity batteries in the kit (if you can find it). Seems a little strange they haven't discontinued this version since the new "1400 in lbs" version with the sturdier side handle is out.
It's looks to be 1/4" and not 5/16". It might be a metric size but that is approximately what it is. In terms of it going all the way through, it's a metal housing that has a rubber cover on either side with threading in the middle. So yes, the hole goes all the way through. As for why they haven't discontinued it, see my comment on the other video. They don't always get rid of older models right away.
My dad always used Milwaukee tool but I got these brand to for a steal! I have the metabo impact hpt driver and impact wrench hpt. I’ve had them for 3 years not have beat and abused them go oil all over them, dropped them still going strong very reliable and durable tools! I highly recommend
Local Lowe’s had 4 triple hammer sets with 2 multivolt batts. for $88. AND 1 hammer drill set with same batts, same price. Bought them all for the batteries. The small circular saw is great. Along with the UHP Sawzall, SDS rotary hammer, all the nailers. The circ and sawzall were both in clearance $55/each.
Great video! It is hard to say what level they are. I never hear anyone bash them or say they aren't reliable, yet I feel like I'd hear more about them if they were up there with the big 3. Maybe it's just people are too nervous to move to something different like Metabo HPT. I always hear people suggesting them for their 36v recip saw over the other brands!
I have the recip saw on order for an upcoming test and I hear similar good things about. I think the issue is just that they don’t have the same number of tools as some of the other brands. Plus the name change hurt some of their brand awareness.
"The big three" is like a recent America only thing. It's like Home Depot has taken over. It wasn't like that a few years ago. They're contractor grade, but they do make some fine woodworking tools, like the 7.25" miter saw. They make a complete line of nailers, cordless nailers, SDS drills, grinders, and concrete tools, and have been making them for ages. They even make a $2500 cordless rebar bender and cutter. The only one in the world. That makes them a professional grade brand.
, I use hitachi gear and Milwaukee ,well ,the one big bonus I find with hikoki(hpt) is the cord for the multi vault tools , I now can just carry one sds max drill /breaker and grinder ideal if it’s only a short job can use the battery or if it’s a longer job I just plug in and can run all day , leaving more space in my van, it’s super reliable and handles heaps of abuse, and alot easier to buy hear in nz , as Milwaukee is only sold in certain stores here, so can be hard to get ,
After using a couple impact drivers I have actually started to really want to invest in Metabo HPT tools even though I feel their batteries are a bit more expensive than Bosch Dewalt or Milwaukee… but recently I had to spend some hours screwing in some metal roofs on a pole barn and I have to say the 18v Metabo that’s for sale around $100 worked really great!!! I spent a hour testing the 1/4 impact from Metabo and a Bosch 1/4 impact…. The Bosch was a few days older and had some use with it, but the Bosch got way hotter during an hours time than the Metabo and actually started to lack power/smooth functioning… while the Metabo didn’t get nearly as hot…. The Bosch also has zero adjustable settings while the Metabo had speed and power options….
I have always been disappointed with the impact drivers from Bosch. Metabo HPT on the other hand had really impressed me. I have an upcoming video on the Japanese version of the new Bolt Impact
Much cheaper on batteries than Dewalt, I use the generic 36v 2.5/5.0 for most applications use the bigger 4/8ah batteries on circ saws, recip, and grinder, everything else including nailers gets the generics. Oh and the generic 36v 2.5ah battery was able to get through 3 railroad tie cuts with Sawzall. The generics are 55 a piece.
Metabo needs to step up their marketing to be relevant. The fact that they have an AC adapter is great for homeowners or people trying to be eco-friendly.
A good comparison for the Hitachi 36v is gonna be Makita XGT. The two brands are always copying each other and they're usually very similar with similar specs, and make for good comparisons. It's like DeWalt and Milwaukee.
I recently sold all of my M18 tools, I now only use M12 tools for light weight and the Metabo 36V tools when I want the power. Right now Metabo HPT is offering a free 4ah/8ah 18v/36v multivolt battery with most bare tool or kit purchases. If you use this tool all day every day it will wear you out it is very heavy especially with the required multivolt battery. My M12 fuel impact and assembly drill will handle 90% of my needs but it's nice knowing I have this on reserve for those demanding situations. You can definitely feel that Metabo HPT is geared towards contractors as there are no yard tools (hopefully yet). I'd like to see a tire inflator, even if you want to market just to contractors; contractors to drive vans and trucks onto work sites which have nails laying around so I wouldn't consider an inflator to be strictly a homeowner tool.
I think people overlooks them because they aren’t available everywhere and the tool selection isn’t as vast as some others… people want to step into almost any store and have Milwaukee, Dewault, Or some other tools that are plentiful in most hardware/home improvement stores. But definitely a great product that doesn’t get the exposure
I am with you on the first part. Even in Lowes where they are available for me they get bumped and moved around for more popular brands. But they do have tools that no other company is doing (1/2” Cordless Router for example). I think they are more slanted towards carpentry than some other brands are.
what's interesting about this tool is that its anti kickback seems to work a little differently than other brands. It senses an overload first before it activates the anti kickback unlike other brands where you can activate it even with no load.
@@TinkerWithTools another good news for you my friend as it appears like Hikoki is prepping to release their next gen of tools. Check their japanese website for the new tools.
@@TinkerWithTools all I know they are starting to do reviews over at Japan and doing some ads. They did just release the new gen 2 of one of their traditional impact drivers WH18DEX over here in the states and they are just releasing reviews in Japan about this particular impact driver.
I have a Hitachi NiMH 12v drill from a good number of years ago. Still moving strong. I am not sure why I keep it, it's nearly a relic after all, heh... Now I own the full line of 12v LiON tools from Hitachi, some aren't sold anymore, and some are under the HPT brand. I also own a set of 18v HPT/Hitachi tools. I didn't look at the numbers, specs, price, etc etc... I've been using Hitachi and now HPT for many years for 1 reason. Besides batteries, I have never replaced one of their tools due to a tool failure. Even when I sold the rest of my NiMH tools, they all worked perfectly. I was a professional tradesman (home construction/remodeling) for nearly 35 years (I've changed professions in the last 10yrs) and I've owned them all. I can't say much about the todays tools but Hitachi never left me with a dead tool, thru ALL sorts of abuse. So I am a tad biased and the things I do around the house or to help a friend are all done with my set of Hitachi and HPT tools.
We have a basic drill/driver Metabo set at Costco and it's cheaper and better than similar sets from big name companies at local hardware stores. One day, I should try those Metabos as well.
Shame I had such a bad experience with Hitachi before. I was scared to buy this drill. But they have several tools that I want. Their deep cut 6 1/2” circular saw is awesome. Wish Milwaukee offered the same
@@TinkerWithTools I had a Skil drill when I was really young and used it for a long time. Always had an obsession with tools. Got my first Hitachi drill in Highschool and I was very disappointed in it. No power and short run time. All Brushed drills just seemed to be like that. I’ve tried several brands in the past few years and they all have come a long way since that Skil drill I had. I invested into Milwaukee heavily at this point and for the sake of being on 1 battery platform I think I’ll be sticking with them. Unless someone comes along and really blows everyone out of the water with performance and size.
@@TinkerWithTools I also see you have several m12 tools…love that they have such a large offering in their smaller tools. Great for people who do maintenance/service work like me
I know it doesn't seem like it makes sense, but you should try the makita 40v drill. I know its expensive lol I do agree that if I was on the budget , I would definitely go with the hpt line, they are a best bang for your buck,
I plan on getting the 40v at some point I have just been putting money elsewhere for the time being. I get it will be an improvement. I just wasn’t planning on Metabo HPT having such a strong showing.
Metabo HPT has great cordless nailers and their 36v tools are mean mean torque monsters. The power is a bit of an unchecked beast though. The hammer drill can kill spade bits. It did not give a damn if a bit got stuck. It would bite and spin almost like the old keyed chuck drills. Their reciprocating saw is a solid monster and will eat through anything and fast, but mine died when the blade jammed while cutting through a hot tub. It's power ripped its own gear wheel apart and I'm not sure if it's going to make it to the shop. Going to sell my multivolt miter saw. Wanted to love it but sadly this was the only thing that didn't have the extreme torque like the other tools. It really wanted to bite and toss wood that was remotely demanding. These tools can come at ridiculously good prices and will usually have the power to get through just about anything. But they do not have any wiggle room for safety measures (user or tool). Don't drill at a funny angle, it's torque will not give a F. Don't pin the blade, it's motor will not give a F. Mean green DGAF. Awesome tools that scare the crap out of me
Thanks for the feedback. I honestly hadn’t heard anyone with anything negative to say about the tools yet. I had heard stuff about the batteries having some failures due to the multivolt. But it’s good to understand the whole story. The good and the bad
Hitachi has long been a serious professional brand in Japan. Not sure why they did the goofy name changes to Metabo and HIkoki, but they are professional tools. Nice test BTW.
Hitachi/ Hikoki / Metabo are definitely not a prosumer brand. :))) They are as professional as you can get- power, comfort, technology, reliability. The only thing is that they don't have hundreds of different tools in their line ups, as some others, but they are improving in this regard as well.
I agree with you with the caveat that you stick to their top tier of tools. I have used a few of the lower tiers and I don’t feel like they are equal to the lower tiers in DEWALT for example. But in that upper tier they can and do compete. In response to the second part about improving their lineup I agree there too. Unlike the other brands striving to be a “pro” brand they legitimately have pro tools that most other brands don’t have. The nailers and routers especially.
@@TinkerWithTools I suppose you are right, I don't possess and am not familiar with any of their low end tier tools, to be honest. As far as I have heard - they are known to have been pretty reliable for their prices, compared to others, but that is all about it, neither very technological nor powerful. But we have a couple of brushless 18V Hitachi combo-drill drivers, the 18V triple-hammer impact and the 18V multi-tool and are very pleased with them, they have done tons of work and not a single issue whatsoever. Recently I bought the 36V 165mm circular saw, the 36V Recip Saw and the 36V 1/2" Router - and I am very impressed by them so far. And it is not just the power, the quality and the precision of the craftsmanship is second to none. Very nice reviews by the way! :)
Making a content here because I keep talking to people about Metabo HPT. They are seriously missing out. I run a lot of Milwaukee tools but I've been adding Metabo HPT tools little by little so much that the impact driver is my daily driver so is the 6 and 1/2 in circular. That saw is my main saw because it cuts deeper than 7 and 1/4. And is lighter. My 10 inch miter saw that's cordless is Metabo HPT even though I have the option to go with a 10 inch Milwaukee. because of its hybrid feature where I can plug the Metabo HPT into the wall outlet. There's a lot of things that Metabo HPT does right when it comes to the core tools and especially in the 36 volt line, which I think there should be really pushing out more in the United States. So I really think that people really need to look over this. I've also imported their refrigerator from and a limited edition impact driver which I lost unfortunately. So I'm crying myself to sleep.
I don’t think many people know that HPT stands for Hitachi Power Tools. Hitachi used to be very well known in the trades until Milwaukee started to pretty much dominate.
I think that is the fault of the company themselves. The name change makes such little sense to me. The tools are great but the marketing and name choice is what I struggle with.
I seriously don't wanna sound like a fanboy quote unquote I'm not i love all brands but please hear me out.. please! Ok so the text you did with the Milwaukee was with a 5ah battery correct? I know from person experience and several videos that the 5.0 does not have the power it drops to under 14v under heavy applications like the bigger bits. But the 8.0 ho battery which is the same as the matabo 4ah batteries all im asking is for you to show the true power of this five year old drill 🤔 thanks 😊
I don't currently have an 8ah so we will have to make do with the 6 at some point in the future. While I think it will improve, it doesn't make the Metabo HPT any less impressive.
@@TinkerWithTools no it doesn't and that was not my point this matabo is for its price honestly the best value I agree 100% but my quarrel was in testing sometimes the results get a bit under rated when not using the correct batteries in high draw tools its kinda like putting a 2ah on a saw its gonna work but you will get 30%to 50% better results with high draw tools I dont mean to me rude man I absolutely love your channel but you know as well as I do if you would have pot the 6.0 on the Milwaukee and did the same test with the makita you will not need to drop to speed 1 on the Milwaukee its gearing is perfect for roughout no other saw compares with how compact and how much roughout holes in second gear this 2804-20 i have a video in a log lmao it sucks but you can clearly see Milwaukee win bottom line is 2804-20 has to have a 6.0 or greater for true power..... thanks for even responding I appreciate all you do and for giving my personal friend Brandon a shout out on his channel IMPACT TOOL NATION GUYS CHECK HIM OUT 👏 🙌 AWESOME GUY GRAET CONTENT AS WELL AS TINKER WITH TOOLS MUCH RESPECT BRO AMD ANOTHER TO {SHOUTOUTS TO ROBERT WITH TOOLS AND TACTICS AND ROBERT HAHAHA WITH TOOLS WITH soAlz}
Great insight into what Metabo can really do! I appreciate the fact you have given this brand the love I feel it deserves. I picked these up on clearance and so far nothing but great things. Got the 7 1/4" circ for $69 due to a return simply because of battery compatibility, never before used! Also picked up the Recip BEAST - Free with purchase of 4AH Battery and charger ($199 value free) and both the Hammer drill and Impact were on clearance. Needed that 4amp for both saws anyway! All for $470!
Nice job. They are a great brand and I think with deals you can get, there is more value than a lot of people think. While they may not have the full line of tools that a Milwaukee or DeWalt might have, they have some great core stuff and have a few (like a 1/2" cordless router) that even the big names don't have.
With that said they have a very small line of tools no system to transport tools with that said watch forthewin the saw did very poorly so im not getting into this line but yes great deals very good drill impact but battery size and several other features just turn me off and when you drop that tool and the handel breaks off inside of the actual casing of the tool can be very bad and leave the tool not usable...
They have a small line compared to some of the bigger brands but they have brought several tools to market ahead of other major tool brands which is intriguing to me. They have the half inch router than runs on their 36v line that is really impressive. They aren't without fault by any means. While running a single platform has benefits, I think there are great tools to be found in many lines and this drill quickly rose up my ranking.
BTW put a 6ah battery on the Milwaukee m18 fuel and it will go all the way through with your comparison against the makita its not Milwaukee has better batteries which was fair and unfair at the same time please just try it..... it doesn't have to be on camera but you will be pleasantly surprised
One of the biggest tool brands in the world. They make tools for both pros and non pros. Their line up with tools are similar to Makitas(which have the biggest line up of all). U Americans probably just got the short hand of the stick. Most youtubers in america is on about Flex vs this and Flex vs that. Flex aint s h i t compare to Metabo HBT/Hikoki or any of the big toolbrands for that matter
I think the obsession from flex is just how much they are currently marketing it here, and the fact that their tools truly are powerful. I have never felt that they are superior in refinement but in power they are right up there with the big american brands like MIlwaukee and Dewalt. Metabo HPT doesn't get a lot of love and their marketing and branding choices haven't helped them. The switch from Hitachi to Metabo HPT when there was already Metabo out there wasn't executed all that well, but the tools do speak for themselves. I also think they innovate in areas that other brands don't yet, like their 1/2" router. That thing is impressive.
@@TinkerWithTools MIlwaukee hasnt been an American company for 20 years though. Regarding Flex the power comes from mainly the pouch batterys. without them they get beaten by a lot of brands in power. The stacked lithium might be the future and yes Flex has an advantage there. The poor line up makes me think its just a guinea pig company for Chervon. And the name Chervon its just to confuse Americans thinking it is Chevron and and not another Chinese company
Thanks for the shout out brother. More than grateful to say the least. Your one of the most humble, genuine love for the tool, and honest channels I’ve come across with absolutely amazing informative content and that’s why I’ll always stick around here. Your videos consistently get better and better. We hear about metabo hpt from others. Saying that they are underrated and overlooked like you mentioned, but we really truly don’t grasp and understand that until we hold one of their tools in our hand. Then it all becomes clear. I’d throw metabo hpt up against any of the big dogs in the Industry any day. May not be the most powerful always but power is not everything. Thanks again buddy. Much love to you and your family. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and God bless my friend 👊
Appreciate it man!
I’ve been running Hitachi for at least 20 years daily. I swear by them. I am an aluminum jet boat builder and carpenter. Nothing but abuse and they keep on going. Just buy the more industrial line. You can tell which line is which easily now, get the brushless. These tools have seen the likes of Makita, Milwaukee, DeWalt etc go up in smoke beside them. Highly underrated brand. They are produced under a few names now due to a buy out by a holdings company. Formerly Hitachi, they can be found under Metabo HPT in North America or Hikoki in Europe and Australia.
I appreciate the insight.
Thank you.
I was wondering about longevity.
I'm also a carpenter
Kinda cool, I'm thinking of getting some hikoki straight from Japan, like the 36v...41v max triple hammer impact
Or just Metabo in Europe
@@danielvoorhees9507The German version
It’s all I buy. Bought an impact about 15 years ago and was hooked. Have the new triple hammer, that hammer drill, rear handle circular saw, 9 batteries and 4 chargers. Have 4 chorded tools, 6 gallon pancake compressor and 16 gauge nailer. All have been fantastic
I have had good luck with the brand. I have had a mixture of the older Hitachi tools and some of the newer Metabo HPT and even a Hikoki model in there and they have all been great.
Just picked up the 36v hammerdrill, mid torque impact wrench and the cordless compressor and 2 additional 4.0/8.0 batts,,very impressed, the mid torque impact is an absolute beast
Nice score. I have the recip saw coming in the mail tomorrow and I am excited to try more of the lineup.
@@TinkerWithTools great recip, so much demo and fun!
I got this drill for a song and a dance. It's my favorite for a heavy duty drill. Ergonomics, sound, speed/trigger control, all great! Ended up getting the 7-1/4 rear handle and sawzall. They are MONSTERS.
I have thought about that saw!
😢severely underrated! I’m glad they are getting more shine recently… and I preach about HPT tools constantly. Just picked up the rear handle circ saw this past week, and upgraded to the 36v triple hammer and hammer drill on some clearance deals recently. My introduction to the line was using their 36v beast of a recip saw doing some demo work… and I was a fan instantly, and started picking them up. Just got my contractor buddy into them last year and he’s all in now, lol. The only tool of theirs I wasn’t impressed with is the super beefy multi-tool, it’s bulky and meh on power. If they come with a 36v version of that and a jigsaw, and grow the line… they’d be my number #1, but they are a super strong #2 (Milwaukee #1, HPT #2, makita #3, and dewalt #4)
Each of those brands has some tools that I really love and each one has some duds unfortunately. But I agree with you... Metabo HPT isn't perfect but they have a number of tools that really shine!
I almost bought the 36v recip saw, rear handle, battery, and charger for $230 at Toolbarn!
@@devonboyer626 In my opinion… the best deal of the year so far! Bought one to keep the circ saw and sell the rest… and a second one just to sell since it was such a good deal (getting them separately is $600). 😬
I bought my first impact/drill kit in 2019. Happened to be when they were rebranding the Hitachis. They performed really well so I decided might as well buy a sawzall and everything went on clearance so I bought a circular saw also. I still use the exact same ones from 3 years ago daily. Yes I have bought many more Metabo tools but still using the ogs.
I’ve been using Hitachi and Metabo for years now. I absolutely love them.
They have a lot of solid tools.
I forgot to mention, the video…🔥🔥🔥 as always man!! I wouldn’t expect anything but , coming from this channel. Absolutely killing it 👊
Thank you!
Of course it's only superfluous but I love the form factor and colour scheme of HPT tools
Nothing wrong with that
Good stuff - I love my Metabo HPT tools. Thanks for the video.
Thanks
I just got the Metabo Isolating tool and 21 degree framing nailer. Both are great tools which I got both at Lowe's on the buy more save more. I will be getting more Metabo tools. This video has great information thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful. That buy save more is a good time to build the collection.
I seriously considered going with metabo a couple of years ago when I decided to switch platforms. The automotive tools at the time just didn’t impress me, but this drill certainly does.
I get that. They are certainly more contractor or woodworker focused.
They're as good as anything else on the market. Better warranty. Usually cheaper. Great service center, if needed in GA. My only wish is they would offer more automotive tools, inflators, ratchets, etc. But everything I have green is a joy to use.
Yeah, they could do with an expanded lineup but i also think they need a place where they get more visibility... which would hopefully increase sales. I don't necessarily love their entry level tools but the upper tier have all been excellent.
@@TinkerWithTools their entry level is better than DeWalt or Milwaukee or especially Makita entry level. Those are hot garbage. You want entry level, go Kobalt. Everything is Brushless atleast. Totally agree on visibility. They're much, much better than one back, dusty corner at Lowe's.
The triple hammer has its flaws though they did redesign it now but this drill has been rock solid for me the best I used. No chuck issues just a little heavy compared to Milwaukee but Milwaukee drills have always failed on me except the mini with the small batteries has always been solid
Hey, love your videos so far! I really liked the video graphic you used for the intro in the Makita vs Milwaukee hammer drill episode you made recently. Very unique and cool, you should keep doing that 👍 Also awesome intro music 👍
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback!
What is the threading on the side handle? Looks like maybe standard 5/16 inch. Does it go all the way through from one side to the other?
This tool is screaming "buy me!" Because the side handle mount looks great for my application. This version is still on their website, with bigger capacity batteries in the kit (if you can find it). Seems a little strange they haven't discontinued this version since the new "1400 in lbs" version with the sturdier side handle is out.
It's looks to be 1/4" and not 5/16". It might be a metric size but that is approximately what it is. In terms of it going all the way through, it's a metal housing that has a rubber cover on either side with threading in the middle. So yes, the hole goes all the way through. As for why they haven't discontinued it, see my comment on the other video. They don't always get rid of older models right away.
My dad always used Milwaukee tool but I got these brand to for a steal! I have the metabo impact hpt driver and impact wrench hpt. I’ve had them for 3 years not have beat and abused them go oil all over them, dropped them still going strong very reliable and durable tools! I highly recommend
I agree that you can find some great deals on Metabo HPT.
Local Lowe’s had 4 triple hammer sets with 2 multivolt batts. for $88. AND 1 hammer drill set with same batts, same price. Bought them all for the batteries. The small circular saw is great. Along with the UHP Sawzall, SDS rotary hammer, all the nailers. The circ and sawzall were both in clearance $55/each.
Yeah if you can jump on those deals you really can get set up nicely on their platform.
Great video! It is hard to say what level they are. I never hear anyone bash them or say they aren't reliable, yet I feel like I'd hear more about them if they were up there with the big 3. Maybe it's just people are too nervous to move to something different like Metabo HPT. I always hear people suggesting them for their 36v recip saw over the other brands!
I have the recip saw on order for an upcoming test and I hear similar good things about. I think the issue is just that they don’t have the same number of tools as some of the other brands. Plus the name change hurt some of their brand awareness.
"The big three" is like a recent America only thing. It's like Home Depot has taken over. It wasn't like that a few years ago.
They're contractor grade, but they do make some fine woodworking tools, like the 7.25" miter saw.
They make a complete line of nailers, cordless nailers, SDS drills, grinders, and concrete tools, and have been making them for ages. They even make a $2500 cordless rebar bender and cutter. The only one in the world. That makes them a professional grade brand.
@@histguy101 cool. 👍
, I use hitachi gear and Milwaukee ,well ,the one big bonus I find with hikoki(hpt) is the cord for the multi vault tools , I now can just carry one sds max drill /breaker and grinder ideal if it’s only a short job can use the battery or if it’s a longer job I just plug in and can run all day , leaving more space in my van, it’s super reliable and handles heaps of abuse, and alot easier to buy hear in nz , as Milwaukee is only sold in certain stores here, so can be hard to get ,
@@TinkerWithTools great channel I just discovered here! Subscribed! Awesome dude!
After using a couple impact drivers I have actually started to really want to invest in Metabo HPT tools even though I feel their batteries are a bit more expensive than Bosch Dewalt or Milwaukee… but recently I had to spend some hours screwing in some metal roofs on a pole barn and I have to say the 18v Metabo that’s for sale around $100 worked really great!!! I spent a hour testing the 1/4 impact from Metabo and a Bosch 1/4 impact…. The Bosch was a few days older and had some use with it, but the Bosch got way hotter during an hours time than the Metabo and actually started to lack power/smooth functioning… while the Metabo didn’t get nearly as hot…. The Bosch also has zero adjustable settings while the Metabo had speed and power options….
I have always been disappointed with the impact drivers from Bosch. Metabo HPT on the other hand had really impressed me. I have an upcoming video on the Japanese version of the new Bolt Impact
Much cheaper on batteries than Dewalt, I use the generic 36v 2.5/5.0 for most applications use the bigger 4/8ah batteries on circ saws, recip, and grinder, everything else including nailers gets the generics. Oh and the generic 36v 2.5ah battery was able to get through 3 railroad tie cuts with Sawzall. The generics are 55 a piece.
Metabo needs to step up their marketing to be relevant. The fact that they have an AC adapter is great for homeowners or people trying to be eco-friendly.
They have a really intriguing lineup. Some really great tools but then they don’t get a lot of publicity like you said.
Great video!
Thanks!
I’ve got several corded tools of the green flavor and they’re tuff . If they are the same you can’t go wrong.
I think there are still tools they make sense for corded options. Sanders for me make a lot of sense as corded tools.
A good comparison for the Hitachi 36v is gonna be Makita XGT. The two brands are always copying each other and they're usually very similar with similar specs, and make for good comparisons. It's like DeWalt and Milwaukee.
I agree that's a great comparison. outside the US, they have a lot more publicity than they do here.
Best regards for you from Poland!
Thanks for watching.
I recently sold all of my M18 tools, I now only use M12 tools for light weight and the Metabo 36V tools when I want the power. Right now Metabo HPT is offering a free 4ah/8ah 18v/36v multivolt battery with most bare tool or kit purchases. If you use this tool all day every day it will wear you out it is very heavy especially with the required multivolt battery. My M12 fuel impact and assembly drill will handle 90% of my needs but it's nice knowing I have this on reserve for those demanding situations. You can definitely feel that Metabo HPT is geared towards contractors as there are no yard tools (hopefully yet). I'd like to see a tire inflator, even if you want to market just to contractors; contractors to drive vans and trucks onto work sites which have nails laying around so I wouldn't consider an inflator to be strictly a homeowner tool.
They have some great tools for sure. I just hope they keep it up !
That's my combo as well. MHPT 36/18. M12 & a few DW12 for the lighter, low access jobs.
I think people overlooks them because they aren’t available everywhere and the tool selection isn’t as vast as some others… people want to step into almost any store and have Milwaukee, Dewault, Or some other tools that are plentiful in most hardware/home improvement stores. But definitely a great product that doesn’t get the exposure
I am with you on the first part. Even in Lowes where they are available for me they get bumped and moved around for more popular brands. But they do have tools that no other company is doing (1/2” Cordless Router for example). I think they are more slanted towards carpentry than some other brands are.
what's interesting about this tool is that its anti kickback seems to work a little differently than other brands. It senses an overload first before it activates the anti kickback unlike other brands where you can activate it even with no load.
Thanks for the comment. Helpful to know. I love the drill. Really a overlooked gem.
@@TinkerWithTools another good news for you my friend as it appears like Hikoki is prepping to release their next gen of tools. Check their japanese website for the new tools.
@@ProxyFinal while I don’t have an issue with importing I wonder if the Metabo HPT will release at the same time.
@@TinkerWithTools all I know they are starting to do reviews over at Japan and doing some ads. They did just release the new gen 2 of one of their traditional impact drivers WH18DEX over here in the states and they are just releasing reviews in Japan about this particular impact driver.
Hitachi was never a second-tier or prosumer tool. It was always up there with any of the Dewalts or Milwaukees.
I have a Hitachi NiMH 12v drill from a good number of years ago. Still moving strong. I am not sure why I keep it, it's nearly a relic after all, heh... Now I own the full line of 12v LiON tools from Hitachi, some aren't sold anymore, and some are under the HPT brand. I also own a set of 18v HPT/Hitachi tools. I didn't look at the numbers, specs, price, etc etc... I've been using Hitachi and now HPT for many years for 1 reason. Besides batteries, I have never replaced one of their tools due to a tool failure. Even when I sold the rest of my NiMH tools, they all worked perfectly. I was a professional tradesman (home construction/remodeling) for nearly 35 years (I've changed professions in the last 10yrs) and I've owned them all. I can't say much about the todays tools but Hitachi never left me with a dead tool, thru ALL sorts of abuse. So I am a tad biased and the things I do around the house or to help a friend are all done with my set of Hitachi and HPT tools.
Thanks for commenting. I have used both Hitachi tools with NiCad and LioN batteries and they have all worked great!
We have a basic drill/driver Metabo set at Costco and it's cheaper and better than similar sets from big name companies at local hardware stores.
One day, I should try those Metabos as well.
My costco doesn't seem to carry anything besides the grey porter cable tools.
Shame I had such a bad experience with Hitachi before. I was scared to buy this drill. But they have several tools that I want. Their deep cut 6 1/2” circular saw is awesome. Wish Milwaukee offered the same
Yeah I can’t blame you if they failed you in the past. My experience both with Hitachi and now Metabo HPT has been nothing but positive.
@@TinkerWithTools I had a Skil drill when I was really young and used it for a long time. Always had an obsession with tools. Got my first Hitachi drill in Highschool and I was very disappointed in it. No power and short run time. All Brushed drills just seemed to be like that. I’ve tried several brands in the past few years and they all have come a long way since that Skil drill I had. I invested into Milwaukee heavily at this point and for the sake of being on 1 battery platform I think I’ll be sticking with them. Unless someone comes along and really blows everyone out of the water with performance and size.
@@TinkerWithTools I also see you have several m12 tools…love that they have such a large offering in their smaller tools. Great for people who do maintenance/service work like me
I had an old Hitachi brushed drill that worked well for a while but it was pretty gutless.
M12 is a great line. I’m glad DEWALT is now doing a good 12 volt line as well so it pushes Milwaukee to get even better.
I know it doesn't seem like it makes sense, but you should try the makita 40v drill. I know its expensive lol
I do agree that if I was on the budget , I would definitely go with the hpt line, they are a best bang for your buck,
I plan on getting the 40v at some point I have just been putting money elsewhere for the time being. I get it will be an improvement. I just wasn’t planning on Metabo HPT having such a strong showing.
Metabo HPT has great cordless nailers and their 36v tools are mean mean torque monsters. The power is a bit of an unchecked beast though. The hammer drill can kill spade bits. It did not give a damn if a bit got stuck. It would bite and spin almost like the old keyed chuck drills. Their reciprocating saw is a solid monster and will eat through anything and fast, but mine died when the blade jammed while cutting through a hot tub. It's power ripped its own gear wheel apart and I'm not sure if it's going to make it to the shop. Going to sell my multivolt miter saw. Wanted to love it but sadly this was the only thing that didn't have the extreme torque like the other tools. It really wanted to bite and toss wood that was remotely demanding. These tools can come at ridiculously good prices and will usually have the power to get through just about anything. But they do not have any wiggle room for safety measures (user or tool). Don't drill at a funny angle, it's torque will not give a F. Don't pin the blade, it's motor will not give a F. Mean green DGAF. Awesome tools that scare the crap out of me
Thanks for the feedback. I honestly hadn’t heard anyone with anything negative to say about the tools yet. I had heard stuff about the batteries having some failures due to the multivolt. But it’s good to understand the whole story. The good and the bad
Hitachi has long been a serious professional brand in Japan. Not sure why they did the goofy name changes to Metabo and HIkoki, but they are professional tools.
Nice test BTW.
Thanks!
I have a few metabo hpt tools and they are the best value per dollar spent
Couldn’t have said it better
I’d like to see it face off with makitas new 40v hammer drill. You never find if for $160 with 2 batteries and a charger though , not anytime soon
No. You certainly won’t. Between that and Home Depot not carrying the XGT In store it’s hard to get too tempted to buy it.
Hitachi/ Hikoki / Metabo are definitely not a prosumer brand. :))) They are as professional as you can get- power, comfort, technology, reliability. The only thing is that they don't have hundreds of different tools in their line ups, as some others, but they are improving in this regard as well.
I agree with you with the caveat that you stick to their top tier of tools. I have used a few of the lower tiers and I don’t feel like they are equal to the lower tiers in DEWALT for example. But in that upper tier they can and do compete. In response to the second part about improving their lineup I agree there too. Unlike the other brands striving to be a “pro” brand they legitimately have pro tools that most other brands don’t have. The nailers and routers especially.
@@TinkerWithTools I suppose you are right, I don't possess and am not familiar with any of their low end tier tools, to be honest. As far as I have heard - they are known to have been pretty reliable for their prices, compared to others, but that is all about it, neither very technological nor powerful.
But we have a couple of brushless 18V Hitachi combo-drill drivers, the 18V triple-hammer impact and the 18V multi-tool and are very pleased with them, they have done tons of work and not a single issue whatsoever. Recently I bought the 36V 165mm circular saw, the 36V Recip Saw and the 36V 1/2" Router - and I am very impressed by them so far. And it is not just the power, the quality and the precision of the craftsmanship is second to none.
Very nice reviews by the way! :)
Making a content here because I keep talking to people about Metabo HPT. They are seriously missing out. I run a lot of Milwaukee tools but I've been adding Metabo HPT tools little by little so much that the impact driver is my daily driver so is the 6 and 1/2 in circular. That saw is my main saw because it cuts deeper than 7 and 1/4. And is lighter. My 10 inch miter saw that's cordless is Metabo HPT even though I have the option to go with a 10 inch Milwaukee. because of its hybrid feature where I can plug the Metabo HPT into the wall outlet. There's a lot of things that Metabo HPT does right when it comes to the core tools and especially in the 36 volt line, which I think there should be really pushing out more in the United States. So I really think that people really need to look over this.
I've also imported their refrigerator from and a limited edition impact driver which I lost unfortunately. So I'm crying myself to sleep.
They make some great tools. Unfortunately they often get overshadowed by other brands in stores here where I live.
How is the Metabo grip for people with smaller hands?
I’ll check and get some measurements to get back to you. I don’t think I have that large of hands but it works fine for me.
@@TinkerWithTools I’m really impressed with the Metabo and Flex hammer drills and impact drivers. I just think Flex might be kinda bulky for me.
Try the dewalt flex volt advantage
I keep of list of stuff I need to get. It’s on their along with the power detect.
I don’t think many people know that HPT stands for Hitachi Power Tools.
Hitachi used to be very well known in the trades until Milwaukee started to pretty much dominate.
I think that is the fault of the company themselves. The name change makes such little sense to me. The tools are great but the marketing and name choice is what I struggle with.
@@TinkerWithTools I agree, but I think it was a decision made by Hikoki.
so half the speed of a corded drill?
which corded drill are you rocking?
I seriously don't wanna sound like a fanboy quote unquote I'm not i love all brands but please hear me out.. please! Ok so the text you did with the Milwaukee was with a 5ah battery correct? I know from person experience and several videos that the 5.0 does not have the power it drops to under 14v under heavy applications like the bigger bits. But the 8.0 ho battery which is the same as the matabo 4ah batteries all im asking is for you to show the true power of this five year old drill 🤔 thanks 😊
I don't currently have an 8ah so we will have to make do with the 6 at some point in the future. While I think it will improve, it doesn't make the Metabo HPT any less impressive.
@@TinkerWithTools no it doesn't and that was not my point this matabo is for its price honestly the best value I agree 100% but my quarrel was in testing sometimes the results get a bit under rated when not using the correct batteries in high draw tools its kinda like putting a 2ah on a saw its gonna work but you will get 30%to 50% better results with high draw tools I dont mean to me rude man I absolutely love your channel but you know as well as I do if you would have pot the 6.0 on the Milwaukee and did the same test with the makita you will not need to drop to speed 1 on the Milwaukee its gearing is perfect for roughout no other saw compares with how compact and how much roughout holes in second gear this 2804-20 i have a video in a log lmao it sucks but you can clearly see Milwaukee win bottom line is 2804-20 has to have a 6.0 or greater for true power..... thanks for even responding I appreciate all you do and for giving my personal friend Brandon a shout out on his channel IMPACT TOOL NATION GUYS CHECK HIM OUT 👏 🙌 AWESOME GUY GRAET CONTENT AS WELL AS TINKER WITH TOOLS MUCH RESPECT BRO AMD ANOTHER TO {SHOUTOUTS TO ROBERT WITH TOOLS AND TACTICS AND ROBERT HAHAHA WITH TOOLS WITH soAlz}
can the 18yskl uc charge a 36v battery?
I don't believe so but I will test it out and get back to you.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks and please let me know when you try
I stand corrected. It will charge it! I did a short about it if you want to check it out.
Great insight into what Metabo can really do! I appreciate the fact you have given this brand the love I feel it deserves. I picked these up on clearance and so far nothing but great things. Got the 7 1/4" circ for $69 due to a return simply because of battery compatibility, never before used! Also picked up the Recip BEAST - Free with purchase of 4AH Battery and charger ($199 value free) and both the Hammer drill and Impact were on clearance. Needed that 4amp for both saws anyway! All for $470!
Nice job. They are a great brand and I think with deals you can get, there is more value than a lot of people think. While they may not have the full line of tools that a Milwaukee or DeWalt might have, they have some great core stuff and have a few (like a 1/2" cordless router) that even the big names don't have.
With that said they have a very small line of tools no system to transport tools with that said watch forthewin the saw did very poorly so im not getting into this line but yes great deals very good drill impact but battery size and several other features just turn me off and when you drop that tool and the handel breaks off inside of the actual casing of the tool can be very bad and leave the tool not usable...
They have a small line compared to some of the bigger brands but they have brought several tools to market ahead of other major tool brands which is intriguing to me. They have the half inch router than runs on their 36v line that is really impressive. They aren't without fault by any means. While running a single platform has benefits, I think there are great tools to be found in many lines and this drill quickly rose up my ranking.
The charger has a usb charger that can charge things without being plugged in the wall!
That’s a nice added feature.
Great vid! +1
Thanks!
BTW put a 6ah battery on the Milwaukee m18 fuel and it will go all the way through with your comparison against the makita its not Milwaukee has better batteries which was fair and unfair at the same time please just try it..... it doesn't have to be on camera but you will be pleasantly surprised
I'll run the 6 on the Milwaukee at some point. For the sake of that video, I did like batteries.
Put it against the 999, or the 998
When I can get my hands on one i will. It’s on my list.
One of the biggest tool brands in the world. They make tools for both pros and non pros. Their line up with tools are similar to Makitas(which have the biggest line up of all). U Americans probably just got the short hand of the stick. Most youtubers in america is on about Flex vs this and Flex vs that. Flex aint s h i t compare to Metabo HBT/Hikoki or any of the big toolbrands for that matter
You speak the truth, this obsession with Flex seems absurd to many
I think the obsession from flex is just how much they are currently marketing it here, and the fact that their tools truly are powerful. I have never felt that they are superior in refinement but in power they are right up there with the big american brands like MIlwaukee and Dewalt. Metabo HPT doesn't get a lot of love and their marketing and branding choices haven't helped them. The switch from Hitachi to Metabo HPT when there was already Metabo out there wasn't executed all that well, but the tools do speak for themselves. I also think they innovate in areas that other brands don't yet, like their 1/2" router. That thing is impressive.
@@TinkerWithTools MIlwaukee hasnt been an American company for 20 years though. Regarding Flex the power comes from mainly the pouch batterys. without them they get beaten by a lot of brands in power. The stacked lithium might be the future and yes Flex has an advantage there. The poor line up makes me think its just a guinea pig company for Chervon. And the name Chervon its just to confuse Americans thinking it is Chevron and and not another Chinese company