A nice bit of news that Gobert took less money, but really, that’s more of the market correcting itself than anything. Gobert wasn’t going to get even close to max money from any other team, and that would be the same landscape for him, even if there were more teams like the tanking Nets with cap space next year. Essentially, the Wolves were only really competing against themselves on the market for Gobert, so he got less than the max (which he never should have), but still more than what his range actually is, somewhere between what Hartenstein got from the Thunder and Clint Capela makes on the Hawks. With this new CBA, giving max money to a specialist, a guy that can’t even play both sides of the ball, is the fastest way to murder your cap space, and now we see what the results are. Elite shooters like DeVincenzo, Grayson Allen, do one thing very well, and they don’t make max money, even if that skill is arguably more valuable than what Gobert provides. Can the Wolves fans say with a straight face they wouldn’t be just as good a team with a mixture of Walker Kessler, Garza, and Naz Reid manning the 5 alongside KAT? Had they done that, the Wolves would’ve had plenty of money to resign most of their guys, keep KAT, and maybe pick up a shooter like a Gary Trent Jr. on the market. Not only that, how much you wanna wager KAT would’ve given Minny a hometown discount on his next extension when his time came? He was loyal. 150%. There are very, very few instances of a #1 guy deferring to a younger teammate and even taking less in money to do it: D. Wade for LeBron and Robinson for Duncan and that’s about it. Shaq, maybe learning from the Kobe fiasco, stepped aside for Wade in ’06. And Minny had it all PERFECTLY set with KAT to continue this at a much younger age and Connelly pissed it all away! That’s what’s so infuriating... Connelly is loyal to his guys -- that’s it. HIS guys. His players, their agents and teams. Porter Jr. Gobert. Not the team. Screw the team. Minny isn’t exactly a FA destination and as a result, I’m banking on a panic move by Connelly next off-season if this team underperforms... the Brandon Ingram, Jerami Grants of the world, lame ducks on their respective franchises. Actually, Randle is already in that category... he was in full lame duck status mode on the Knicks before they found some sucker to dump him on since he clearly was an odd fit in their longterm plans and along comes Tim Connelly/Taylor and Co. and Minnesota -- the perfect mark. The fleece would be some slight of hand if we didn’t see it coming... Ant is an MVP-caliber player who is only going to get better... but even he’s not great enough to rescue Minnesota from this mess.
Troubled waters ahead, Wolves fans. This Gobert extension is a Tim Connelly special -- doubling down on a mistake he made trading a king’s ransom for Gobert, who was already overpaid relative to his production as a specialist, which ultimately led to the domino effect of forcing the Wolves to shed Towns for a return that in a year could just be Donte DeVincenzo if Randle walks. Think about that Wolves fans. Sit with that. A franchise-level big man still in his 20s with premier height and length and an elite skill with his 3-point shooting, HAPPY to be in small market like Minnesota and CONTENT to be the 2nd fiddle to his rising co-star in Anthony Edwards essentially dealt away for a role player in DiVincenzo. This is going to be a slow death for Minnesota’s title hopes and if you want proof of concept, look no further than the Denver Nuggets, another “title contender” Connelly was the architect on. That max Michael Porter Jr. contract has been slowly suffocating the Nuggets’s chances of retaining their players, from Bruce Brown to KCP... along with their title chances, wasting Jokic’s prime. But at least in that case, Denver got a title out of it... Minnesota won’t be so fortunate. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team break through a playoff ceiling the way the Wolves did last and then DEAL away a core piece of that successful squad the very next year. The logic of that is... mystifying.
Our loss was way worse than the Knick loss. At least they lost to the defending champions who had a historic night on 3 pointers. We lost to a play in team.
Aren't y'all a play-in team too few years ago? Imagine the disgust teams must've felt after you've beaten them. Lakers were just in WCF the year before yall. One playoff success and these Minnesota fans don't know how to act. 😂
Finch has alot I mean alot of work to do with this team ...My problem is him not using his young guys we need scoring so bad ! Rob Dillingham and Terrence Shannon should be getting minutes as soon as possible.And Naz should he starting not Jayden M ..And Mike is absolutely unplayable he's a liability to the team every game because he can't score at all
Only reason the score is close is 'cause LAL didnt make their open 3's. No good thing happened for the Wolves this game lmao No way in hell a team shooting 16% from three should win a game.
Big wolves fan, Chris finch is the reason the wolves did not go to the finals, he has the worst rotations in the nba. Why in the world would you have any stretches where Ant and randle are both sitting ? Why not play Gillingham to see if he can spark something? There’s no offence just ant liking a mismatch and going. The t wolves will never win a chip with finch as the coach and gobert as a player. Lebron was going at gobert lol why can’t the front office see this? Sorry ant you might have to leave Minnesota to get a chip.
@@ObscureManifesto keep telling yourself that lol randle and ant should never being sitting down at the same time. you traded to get gillingham in the draft and he gets a dnp, but play ingles? finch been washed, since they switched on luka and didnt have daniels stick and luka scores on gobert in game 1.
Def overreaction lol last years first game KAT was -1 +/- while Randle was +2….lost by 3 both games…these games will take a min to get the chemistry down. How did NY do last night 🤷🏻♂️.
@@EdwardBrown-ou1sr I’m not disputing this. I’m just saying it wasn’t much of a change from the first game of last year to this year nor between the games played last night. We played as horribly as we possibly could have and lost. Overreactions to the first game of the season is all. Minnesota fans are always this way. Vikings lose to Detroit by 2 pts and “the season is over”. Sad really.
Wolves look like a play in team to me 😆 😆 Zero ball movement 2 ball stoppers in ju and ant And another player who thinks he’s better than he actually is in ddv lol
A nice bit of news that Gobert took less money, but really, that’s more of the market correcting itself than anything. Gobert wasn’t going to get even close to max money from any other team, and that would be the same landscape for him, even if there were more teams like the tanking Nets with cap space next year. Essentially, the Wolves were only really competing against themselves on the market for Gobert, so he got less than the max (which he never should have), but still more than what his range actually is, somewhere between what Hartenstein got from the Thunder and Clint Capela makes on the Hawks. With this new CBA, giving max money to a specialist, a guy that can’t even play both sides of the ball, is the fastest way to murder your cap space, and now we see what the results are. Elite shooters like DeVincenzo, Grayson Allen, do one thing very well, and they don’t make max money, even if that skill is arguably more valuable than what Gobert provides.
Can the Wolves fans say with a straight face they wouldn’t be just as good a team with a mixture of Walker Kessler, Garza, and Naz Reid manning the 5 alongside KAT? Had they done that, the Wolves would’ve had plenty of money to resign most of their guys, keep KAT, and maybe pick up a shooter like a Gary Trent Jr. on the market.
Not only that, how much you wanna wager KAT would’ve given Minny a hometown discount on his next extension when his time came? He was loyal. 150%.
There are very, very few instances of a #1 guy deferring to a younger teammate and even taking less in money to do it: D. Wade for LeBron and Robinson for Duncan and that’s about it. Shaq, maybe learning from the Kobe fiasco, stepped aside for Wade in ’06. And Minny had it all PERFECTLY set with KAT to continue this at a much younger age and Connelly pissed it all away! That’s what’s so infuriating...
Connelly is loyal to his guys -- that’s it. HIS guys. His players, their agents and teams. Porter Jr. Gobert. Not the team. Screw the team. Minny isn’t exactly a FA destination and as a result, I’m banking on a panic move by Connelly next off-season if this team underperforms... the Brandon Ingram, Jerami Grants of the world, lame ducks on their respective franchises. Actually, Randle is already in that category... he was in full lame duck status mode on the Knicks before they found some sucker to dump him on since he clearly was an odd fit in their longterm plans and along comes Tim Connelly/Taylor and Co. and Minnesota -- the perfect mark. The fleece would be some slight of hand if we didn’t see it coming...
Ant is an MVP-caliber player who is only going to get better... but even he’s not great enough to rescue Minnesota from this mess.
Jack is great but I like Sam on these segments too. He does a nice job.
Turnovers, stagnant movement of ball Randle not fitting well..
Troubled waters ahead, Wolves fans. This Gobert extension is a Tim Connelly special -- doubling down on a mistake he made trading a king’s ransom for Gobert, who was already overpaid relative to his production as a specialist, which ultimately led to the domino effect of forcing the Wolves to shed Towns for a return that in a year could just be Donte DeVincenzo if Randle walks.
Think about that Wolves fans. Sit with that. A franchise-level big man still in his 20s with premier height and length and an elite skill with his 3-point shooting, HAPPY to be in small market like Minnesota and CONTENT to be the 2nd fiddle to his rising co-star in Anthony Edwards essentially dealt away for a role player in DiVincenzo.
This is going to be a slow death for Minnesota’s title hopes and if you want proof of concept, look no further than the Denver Nuggets, another “title contender” Connelly was the architect on. That max Michael Porter Jr. contract has been slowly suffocating the Nuggets’s chances of retaining their players, from Bruce Brown to KCP... along with their title chances, wasting Jokic’s prime. But at least in that case, Denver got a title out of it... Minnesota won’t be so fortunate. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team break through a playoff ceiling the way the Wolves did last and then DEAL away a core piece of that successful squad the very next year. The logic of that is... mystifying.
That was a bad trade for the wolves & the fact they gave Rudy more years on a deal is CRAZY !!!!!!!
Uff da, what a terrible first game. No energy, no teamwork, late clock, turnovers, yuk
Those new players sucked, going to be a long year.
Randle is still coming back from his injury...he looks like he is still not comfortable with his shots. However, he lacked effort last night.
Get used to it....
Now u know how knick fan feel, Julius literally doesn't care about defense.
You comparing playing the Celtics on ring night vs a mid Lakers team that will be a 6 - 10 team in west.
The wolves a "mid team" will be 6-10 as well lol
Last year was last year and the wolves are no longer good
Our loss was way worse than the Knick loss. At least they lost to the defending champions who had a historic night on 3 pointers. We lost to a play in team.
Maybe if yall actually passed the ball you guys wouldn’t look like the 9th seed 😂
Lakers fan (play in team) came to laugh at your pain 🫵😂 🫵
The wolves are a play-in team lol..Kat not coming back
Aren't y'all a play-in team too few years ago? Imagine the disgust teams must've felt after you've beaten them. Lakers were just in WCF the year before yall. One playoff success and these Minnesota fans don't know how to act. 😂
Finch has alot I mean alot of work to do with this team ...My problem is him not using his young guys we need scoring so bad ! Rob Dillingham and Terrence Shannon should be getting minutes as soon as possible.And Naz should he starting not Jayden M ..And Mike is absolutely unplayable he's a liability to the team every game because he can't score at all
Only reason the score is close is 'cause LAL didnt make their open 3's. No good thing happened for the Wolves this game lmao No way in hell a team shooting 16% from three should win a game.
It’s going to take a year to get in sync. Throw away this year
Big wolves fan, Chris finch is the reason the wolves did not go to the finals, he has the worst rotations in the nba. Why in the world would you have any stretches where Ant and randle are both sitting ? Why not play Gillingham to see if he can spark something? There’s no offence just ant liking a mismatch and going. The t wolves will never win a chip with finch as the coach and gobert as a player. Lebron was going at gobert lol why can’t the front office see this? Sorry ant you might have to leave Minnesota to get a chip.
Right, that's why he took a terrible record from Ryan Saunders term as HC and made it into a respectable team with a good record in that same season.
@@ObscureManifesto keep telling yourself that lol randle and ant should never being sitting down at the same time. you traded to get gillingham in the draft and he gets a dnp, but play ingles? finch been washed, since they switched on luka and didnt have daniels stick and luka scores on gobert in game 1.
Def overreaction lol last years first game KAT was -1 +/- while Randle was +2….lost by 3 both games…these games will take a min to get the chemistry down. How did NY do last night 🤷🏻♂️.
If you guys played the Celtics you would have lost be 40....you shot 31 percent from three...and Lakers shot 16 % and still won...
@@EdwardBrown-ou1sr I’m not disputing this. I’m just saying it wasn’t much of a change from the first game of last year to this year nor between the games played last night. We played as horribly as we possibly could have and lost. Overreactions to the first game of the season is all. Minnesota fans are always this way. Vikings lose to Detroit by 2 pts and “the season is over”. Sad really.
Randle gets a B because he's not that guy !!! also might be rigged for Lakers to win home opener
😂😂😂 Didn't take u long did it
So rigged 😅😅
No faith in Minnesota
Rudy extended... ooof
Literally nothing on the basketball court that Rudy can do better than ad besides get choked out 😂
Wolves look like a play in team to me 😆 😆
Zero ball movement
2 ball stoppers in ju and ant
And another player who thinks he’s better than he actually is in ddv lol
And Wolves fans think they a contender lol
The Wolves are cooked